UPenn Bends to Trump Admin; Revokes Lia Thomas Medals

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

It’s unlikely PP is a MAGA. This is a 90/10 issue. It’s only in deep blue echo chambers like DCUM where people like you even exist. Outside of those small echo chambers, people would read your post and immediately dismiss you as crazy.

Most Americans correctly view what happened to the female Penn swimmers as a travesty. And Americans like their podium moments, and understand the loss of a once-in-a-lifetime moment. Your attempt to dismiss that loss because you are upset at discovering just how far outside the mainstream you are doesn’t change the fact you are far, far in the minority (and wrong) on this issue.

The angry cope from the blue cultists in this thread is wild to see.

Here’s what I believe - this has been blown up to be a huge issue and it is not. If you voted on this issue, you are a moron.

+1

And a bigot.

I believe what happened at Penn to the female swimmers was morally, ethically, and legally wrong. I believe it was wrong across the board, deeply sexist, and an example of the endemic misogyny in our country and culture. I believe people like you are on the wrong side of history.

If that makes me a bigot, that word has lost all meaning. And also, it means that at least 95% of the country and probably 99.9% of the world are “bigots.”

Hyperfocusing on transgender athletes during an election makes you a bigot.

Voting for a POS candidate like Trump over this “issue” makes you a bigot.

Posting about it 24x7 makes you a bigot.

Insisting that it’s “misogyny” makes you a bigot.

Shrug. I didn’t vote for Trump, and your little temper tantrum here just shows how much you are in the wrong. But do continue calling nearly the entire electorate “bigots.” I’m sure that will work out well for you.

Bigots suck at math.

“Nearly the entire electorate” did not hyperfocus on it or post about it 24x7.

Oh, is “bigot” the special word you reserve only for women who speak up about injustice and unfairness? Or those that identify misogyny and speak up about it? It is an honor to be called a bigot by you, in that case.

Also, pretty sure you are the one who lives your life entirely on DCUM. Otherwise you’d know just how far outside of the mainstream you are.

The tantrums from the blue cultist crazies on this thread are certainly something to see.

I’ve already explained who I consider a bigot:

Hyperfocusing on transgender athletes during an election makes you a bigot.

Voting for a POS candidate like Trump over this “issue” makes you a bigot.

Posting about it 24x7 makes you a bigot.

Insisting that it’s “misogyny” makes you a bigot.


I’m a former D1 athlete with two competitive athletic HS daughters who have many transgender friends. I’m plenty familiar with the views of people in this space.

Maybe you should consider therapy to deal with your own deep self-loathing and self-directed misogyny. It’s sad to see. Hopefully your daughters can break out of the cycle of vicious misogyny you are perpetuating when they grow up.

Wanting to find a balance between fairness and inclusion isn’t misogyny.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

+1 i’m glad about this change but completely agree with this

I'm sympathetic to the swimmers who were impacted by the lack of common sense regarding Thomas. Especially because the swimmers who spoke up about the issue were dismissed as bigots. Even the PP's editorializing that their complains were "moaning" is dismissive and gaslighting.

In the end, the people who opposed categorizing Thomas in the women's group and allowing her to compete directly against women despite a clear physical advantage that no cis woman has, were proven right. But now PP wants to call those clearly valid arguments petty "moaning." Nope. Those swimmers had and continue to have the right to view what happened here as unjust.

+1

The PP and the others in this thread attacking Riley Gaines and the other swimmers who stood up for themselves are engaging in typical misogynist minimization of women who speak up for themselves. It’s classic in its form: attack looks, describe the fight to push back against sexism and misogyny as “moaning” or “whining,” imply ulterior motives, etc.

If you removed the context, and lined the quotes up, the sexist language is identical to the language used by far right activists to attack women who are pro-choice. And that is because the underlying driver in both cases is roiling misogyny. One of the saddest aspects of the rise in gender ideology is that it has laid bare the fact that there is very little difference on both ends of the political spectrum when it comes to how much they hate women.

BS narrative.

The left does not hate women.

GTFO.

The left certainly displays contempt for women on this issue, and even in this thread. You can’t help yourselves. Ideology over all.

No, they don’t. That’s just another RWNJ talking point that the “leftists” love to push.

Except that it’s demonstrably true, including many of your posts.

Would love to know if you’re a man or a woman, PP, and the source of your self loathing.

Nothing I have posted or believe “displays contempt for women”.

Facts.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

+1 i’m glad about this change but completely agree with this

I'm sympathetic to the swimmers who were impacted by the lack of common sense regarding Thomas. Especially because the swimmers who spoke up about the issue were dismissed as bigots. Even the PP's editorializing that their complains were "moaning" is dismissive and gaslighting.

In the end, the people who opposed categorizing Thomas in the women's group and allowing her to compete directly against women despite a clear physical advantage that no cis woman has, were proven right. But now PP wants to call those clearly valid arguments petty "moaning." Nope. Those swimmers had and continue to have the right to view what happened here as unjust.

+1

The PP and the others in this thread attacking Riley Gaines and the other swimmers who stood up for themselves are engaging in typical misogynist minimization of women who speak up for themselves. It’s classic in its form: attack looks, describe the fight to push back against sexism and misogyny as “moaning” or “whining,” imply ulterior motives, etc.

If you removed the context, and lined the quotes up, the sexist language is identical to the language used by far right activists to attack women who are pro-choice. And that is because the underlying driver in both cases is roiling misogyny. One of the saddest aspects of the rise in gender ideology is that it has laid bare the fact that there is very little difference on both ends of the political spectrum when it comes to how much they hate women.

BS narrative.

The left does not hate women.

GTFO.

The left certainly displays contempt for women on this issue, and even in this thread. You can’t help yourselves. Ideology over all.

No, they don’t. That’s just another RWNJ talking point that the “leftists” love to push.

Except that it’s demonstrably true, including many of your posts.

Would love to know if you’re a man or a woman, PP, and the source of your self loathing.

Nothing I have posted or believe “displays contempt for women”.

Facts.

Sorry but simply supporting the idea that Will Thomas can swim as Lia on the women’s team, displays contempt for women. And it goes on from there

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

+1 i’m glad about this change but completely agree with this

I'm sympathetic to the swimmers who were impacted by the lack of common sense regarding Thomas. Especially because the swimmers who spoke up about the issue were dismissed as bigots. Even the PP's editorializing that their complains were "moaning" is dismissive and gaslighting.

In the end, the people who opposed categorizing Thomas in the women's group and allowing her to compete directly against women despite a clear physical advantage that no cis woman has, were proven right. But now PP wants to call those clearly valid arguments petty "moaning." Nope. Those swimmers had and continue to have the right to view what happened here as unjust.

+1

The PP and the others in this thread attacking Riley Gaines and the other swimmers who stood up for themselves are engaging in typical misogynist minimization of women who speak up for themselves. It’s classic in its form: attack looks, describe the fight to push back against sexism and misogyny as “moaning” or “whining,” imply ulterior motives, etc.

If you removed the context, and lined the quotes up, the sexist language is identical to the language used by far right activists to attack women who are pro-choice. And that is because the underlying driver in both cases is roiling misogyny. One of the saddest aspects of the rise in gender ideology is that it has laid bare the fact that there is very little difference on both ends of the political spectrum when it comes to how much they hate women.

BS narrative.

The left does not hate women.

GTFO.

The left certainly displays contempt for women on this issue, and even in this thread. You can’t help yourselves. Ideology over all.

No, they don’t. That’s just another RWNJ talking point that the “leftists” love to push.

Except that it’s demonstrably true, including many of your posts.

Would love to know if you’re a man or a woman, PP, and the source of your self loathing.

She is a woman. A deeply self-loathing one, and it is sad. The language she uses is steeped in misogyny and profound hatred of women, but she’s so immersed in it that she cannot see it.

One of the tragedies of the discussion around trans rights is that it has exposed many on the far left as being united with the far right in how much they despise women. Progressive leftists like the PP despise everything about women, and that drips from their language and their words in a way they can’t help. It’s something they marinate in, and so they can’t even see it. But that’s why they are so shocked when they run into the horror of the more mainstream population at the misogyny of their words and actions, and they react with tantrums and anger like our PP here, to avoid facing that dissonance.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

It’s unlikely PP is a MAGA. This is a 90/10 issue. It’s only in deep blue echo chambers like DCUM where people like you even exist. Outside of those small echo chambers, people would read your post and immediately dismiss you as crazy.

Most Americans correctly view what happened to the female Penn swimmers as a travesty. And Americans like their podium moments, and understand the loss of a once-in-a-lifetime moment. Your attempt to dismiss that loss because you are upset at discovering just how far outside the mainstream you are doesn’t change the fact you are far, far in the minority (and wrong) on this issue.

The angry cope from the blue cultists in this thread is wild to see.

Here’s what I believe - this has been blown up to be a huge issue and it is not. If you voted on this issue, you are a moron.

+1

And a bigot.

I believe what happened at Penn to the female swimmers was morally, ethically, and legally wrong. I believe it was wrong across the board, deeply sexist, and an example of the endemic misogyny in our country and culture. I believe people like you are on the wrong side of history.

If that makes me a bigot, that word has lost all meaning. And also, it means that at least 95% of the country and probably 99.9% of the world are “bigots.”

Hyperfocusing on transgender athletes during an election makes you a bigot.

Voting for a POS candidate like Trump over this “issue” makes you a bigot.

Posting about it 24x7 makes you a bigot.

Insisting that it’s “misogyny” makes you a bigot.

Shrug. I didn’t vote for Trump, and your little temper tantrum here just shows how much you are in the wrong. But do continue calling nearly the entire electorate “bigots.” I’m sure that will work out well for you.

Bigots suck at math.

“Nearly the entire electorate” did not hyperfocus on it or post about it 24x7.

Oh, is “bigot” the special word you reserve only for women who speak up about injustice and unfairness? Or those that identify misogyny and speak up about it? It is an honor to be called a bigot by you, in that case.

Also, pretty sure you are the one who lives your life entirely on DCUM. Otherwise you’d know just how far outside of the mainstream you are.

The tantrums from the blue cultist crazies on this thread are certainly something to see.

I’ve already explained who I consider a bigot:

Hyperfocusing on transgender athletes during an election makes you a bigot.

Voting for a POS candidate like Trump over this “issue” makes you a bigot.

Posting about it 24x7 makes you a bigot.

Insisting that it’s “misogyny” makes you a bigot.


I’m a former D1 athlete with two competitive athletic HS daughters who have many transgender friends. I’m plenty familiar with the views of people in this space.

Maybe you should consider therapy to deal with your own deep self-loathing and self-directed misogyny. It’s sad to see. Hopefully your daughters can break out of the cycle of vicious misogyny you are perpetuating when they grow up.

Wanting to find a balance between fairness and inclusion isn’t misogyny.

You have no interest in finding a balance with anything. You simply want to bludgeon people until they 100% agree with you on everything.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

+1 i’m glad about this change but completely agree with this

I'm sympathetic to the swimmers who were impacted by the lack of common sense regarding Thomas. Especially because the swimmers who spoke up about the issue were dismissed as bigots. Even the PP's editorializing that their complains were "moaning" is dismissive and gaslighting.

In the end, the people who opposed categorizing Thomas in the women's group and allowing her to compete directly against women despite a clear physical advantage that no cis woman has, were proven right. But now PP wants to call those clearly valid arguments petty "moaning." Nope. Those swimmers had and continue to have the right to view what happened here as unjust.

+1

The PP and the others in this thread attacking Riley Gaines and the other swimmers who stood up for themselves are engaging in typical misogynist minimization of women who speak up for themselves. It’s classic in its form: attack looks, describe the fight to push back against sexism and misogyny as “moaning” or “whining,” imply ulterior motives, etc.

If you removed the context, and lined the quotes up, the sexist language is identical to the language used by far right activists to attack women who are pro-choice. And that is because the underlying driver in both cases is roiling misogyny. One of the saddest aspects of the rise in gender ideology is that it has laid bare the fact that there is very little difference on both ends of the political spectrum when it comes to how much they hate women.

BS narrative.

The left does not hate women.

GTFO.

The left certainly displays contempt for women on this issue, and even in this thread. You can’t help yourselves. Ideology over all.

No, they don’t. That’s just another RWNJ talking point that the “leftists” love to push.

Except that it’s demonstrably true, including many of your posts.

Would love to know if you’re a man or a woman, PP, and the source of your self loathing.

Nothing I have posted or believe “displays contempt for women”.

Facts.

Sorry but simply supporting the idea that Will Thomas can swim as Lia on the women’s team, displays contempt for women. And it goes on from there

I support athletic organizations creating guidelines around who can compete to balance fairness and inclusion.

And adjusting those guidelines if they seem like they aren’t working.

I don’t support bigots inserting themselves into the process for purely political motives.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't necessarily disagree with Trump on this but one would think the president had bigger things to worry about than Ivy League swimming. Like all of those people who aren't going to have health care coverage. The cost of groceries that seemed to be such a problem during the election and hasn't gone down. The fact that he continues to call adults by childish nicknames.

This is all performative garbage for the ignorant masses while he continues to profit off this country.

10000% this. The amount of time people have spent wringing their hands about the tiny number of athletes involved is bananas.

If it’s a tiny number, then it shouldn’t be a big deal to tell them they can’t play with the women.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

It’s unlikely PP is a MAGA. This is a 90/10 issue. It’s only in deep blue echo chambers like DCUM where people like you even exist. Outside of those small echo chambers, people would read your post and immediately dismiss you as crazy.

Most Americans correctly view what happened to the female Penn swimmers as a travesty. And Americans like their podium moments, and understand the loss of a once-in-a-lifetime moment. Your attempt to dismiss that loss because you are upset at discovering just how far outside the mainstream you are doesn’t change the fact you are far, far in the minority (and wrong) on this issue.

The angry cope from the blue cultists in this thread is wild to see.

Here’s what I believe - this has been blown up to be a huge issue and it is not. If you voted on this issue, you are a moron.

+1

And a bigot.

I believe what happened at Penn to the female swimmers was morally, ethically, and legally wrong. I believe it was wrong across the board, deeply sexist, and an example of the endemic misogyny in our country and culture. I believe people like you are on the wrong side of history.

If that makes me a bigot, that word has lost all meaning. And also, it means that at least 95% of the country and probably 99.9% of the world are “bigots.”

Hyperfocusing on transgender athletes during an election makes you a bigot.

Voting for a POS candidate like Trump over this “issue” makes you a bigot.

Posting about it 24x7 makes you a bigot.

Insisting that it’s “misogyny” makes you a bigot.

DP. Just because you have typed it out does not make it so.

Choosing to target transgender women was a choice you made, bigots.

It's choosing to stick up for girls and women. What's so difficult about that to understand?

Because it’s choosing to “stand up up girls and women” in an unhelpful way.

Where were the bigots when it comes to women’s training facilities? Or other significant inequalities in athletics that do affect THOUSANDS of girls and women every day?

We see you for what you are.

See, the crazy thing about voters is that you can’t stomp your feet and make them do exactly what you want simply because you want it. This is indeed a hard lesson for many on the progressive left, who never heard the word “no” growing up.

Many just ignorantly listen to RWNJ propaganda. Look at the whole price of eggs thing. Voters are dumb AF.

The GOP made a calculated move to attack transgender athletes because they studied the various issues and found that it was most triggering to a certain demographic.

Well, continue telling 95% of the country that they are dumb. I am sure that will work out for you as a strategy.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

+1 i’m glad about this change but completely agree with this

I'm sympathetic to the swimmers who were impacted by the lack of common sense regarding Thomas. Especially because the swimmers who spoke up about the issue were dismissed as bigots. Even the PP's editorializing that their complains were "moaning" is dismissive and gaslighting.

In the end, the people who opposed categorizing Thomas in the women's group and allowing her to compete directly against women despite a clear physical advantage that no cis woman has, were proven right. But now PP wants to call those clearly valid arguments petty "moaning." Nope. Those swimmers had and continue to have the right to view what happened here as unjust.

+1

The PP and the others in this thread attacking Riley Gaines and the other swimmers who stood up for themselves are engaging in typical misogynist minimization of women who speak up for themselves. It’s classic in its form: attack looks, describe the fight to push back against sexism and misogyny as “moaning” or “whining,” imply ulterior motives, etc.

If you removed the context, and lined the quotes up, the sexist language is identical to the language used by far right activists to attack women who are pro-choice. And that is because the underlying driver in both cases is roiling misogyny. One of the saddest aspects of the rise in gender ideology is that it has laid bare the fact that there is very little difference on both ends of the political spectrum when it comes to how much they hate women.

BS narrative.

The left does not hate women.

GTFO.

The left certainly displays contempt for women on this issue, and even in this thread. You can’t help yourselves. Ideology over all.

No, they don’t. That’s just another RWNJ talking point that the “leftists” love to push.

Except that it’s demonstrably true, including many of your posts.

Would love to know if you’re a man or a woman, PP, and the source of your self loathing.

She is a woman. A deeply self-loathing one, and it is sad. The language she uses is steeped in misogyny and profound hatred of women, but she’s so immersed in it that she cannot see it.

One of the tragedies of the discussion around trans rights is that it has exposed many on the far left as being united with the far right in how much they despise women. Progressive leftists like the PP despise everything about women, and that drips from their language and their words in a way they can’t help. It’s something they marinate in, and so they can’t even see it. But that’s why they are so shocked when they run into the horror of the more mainstream population at the misogyny of their words and actions, and they react with tantrums and anger like our PP here, to avoid facing that dissonance.

Fake narrative that isn’t based on reality. AKA you’re full of sht.

Reality:
I’m not “self loathing” and none of the language I’ve used is “steeped in misogyny”.

I don’t despise women at all.

I am angered by bigots targeting vulnerable populations for political gain though. That is true.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

It’s unlikely PP is a MAGA. This is a 90/10 issue. It’s only in deep blue echo chambers like DCUM where people like you even exist. Outside of those small echo chambers, people would read your post and immediately dismiss you as crazy.

Most Americans correctly view what happened to the female Penn swimmers as a travesty. And Americans like their podium moments, and understand the loss of a once-in-a-lifetime moment. Your attempt to dismiss that loss because you are upset at discovering just how far outside the mainstream you are doesn’t change the fact you are far, far in the minority (and wrong) on this issue.

The angry cope from the blue cultists in this thread is wild to see.

Here’s what I believe - this has been blown up to be a huge issue and it is not. If you voted on this issue, you are a moron.

+1

And a bigot.

I believe what happened at Penn to the female swimmers was morally, ethically, and legally wrong. I believe it was wrong across the board, deeply sexist, and an example of the endemic misogyny in our country and culture. I believe people like you are on the wrong side of history.

If that makes me a bigot, that word has lost all meaning. And also, it means that at least 95% of the country and probably 99.9% of the world are “bigots.”

Hyperfocusing on transgender athletes during an election makes you a bigot.

Voting for a POS candidate like Trump over this “issue” makes you a bigot.

Posting about it 24x7 makes you a bigot.

Insisting that it’s “misogyny” makes you a bigot.

DP. Just because you have typed it out does not make it so.

Choosing to target transgender women was a choice you made, bigots.

It's choosing to stick up for girls and women. What's so difficult about that to understand?

Because it’s choosing to “stand up up girls and women” in an unhelpful way.

Where were the bigots when it comes to women’s training facilities? Or other significant inequalities in athletics that do affect THOUSANDS of girls and women every day?

We see you for what you are.

You must be one of those “purists” who think that if you don’t fight on every single issue you are not really part of the cause.

That’s a losing proposition. We are you for what you are.

If the biggest concern you have today about women’s athletics is transgender athletes then you’re a bigot. Or just extremely misinformed and victim to RWNJ propaganda.

“Biggest concern.” There you go again finding ways to dismiss this issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

+1 i’m glad about this change but completely agree with this

I'm sympathetic to the swimmers who were impacted by the lack of common sense regarding Thomas. Especially because the swimmers who spoke up about the issue were dismissed as bigots. Even the PP's editorializing that their complains were "moaning" is dismissive and gaslighting.

In the end, the people who opposed categorizing Thomas in the women's group and allowing her to compete directly against women despite a clear physical advantage that no cis woman has, were proven right. But now PP wants to call those clearly valid arguments petty "moaning." Nope. Those swimmers had and continue to have the right to view what happened here as unjust.

+1

The PP and the others in this thread attacking Riley Gaines and the other swimmers who stood up for themselves are engaging in typical misogynist minimization of women who speak up for themselves. It’s classic in its form: attack looks, describe the fight to push back against sexism and misogyny as “moaning” or “whining,” imply ulterior motives, etc.

If you removed the context, and lined the quotes up, the sexist language is identical to the language used by far right activists to attack women who are pro-choice. And that is because the underlying driver in both cases is roiling misogyny. One of the saddest aspects of the rise in gender ideology is that it has laid bare the fact that there is very little difference on both ends of the political spectrum when it comes to how much they hate women.

BS narrative.

The left does not hate women.

GTFO.

The left certainly displays contempt for women on this issue, and even in this thread. You can’t help yourselves. Ideology over all.

No, they don’t. That’s just another RWNJ talking point that the “leftists” love to push.

Except that it’s demonstrably true, including many of your posts.

Would love to know if you’re a man or a woman, PP, and the source of your self loathing.

Nothing I have posted or believe “displays contempt for women”.

Facts.

Sorry but simply supporting the idea that Will Thomas can swim as Lia on the women’s team, displays contempt for women. And it goes on from there

I support athletic organizations creating guidelines around who can compete to balance fairness and inclusion.

And adjusting those guidelines if they seem like they aren’t working.

I don’t support bigots inserting themselves into the process for purely political motives.

But those organizations did not have any interest in balancing fairness and inclusion. Penn outright threatened the women swimmers who tried to report what should have been clear-cut sexual harassment. When institutions close ranks and protect unfairness and injustice as policy, you have to go outside the organization.

Also, your position is entirely impractical. You want every single cash-strapped youth sports organization to hire lawyers and expensive gender experts to develop their own guidelines? That’s absolutely ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

+1 i’m glad about this change but completely agree with this

I'm sympathetic to the swimmers who were impacted by the lack of common sense regarding Thomas. Especially because the swimmers who spoke up about the issue were dismissed as bigots. Even the PP's editorializing that their complains were "moaning" is dismissive and gaslighting.

In the end, the people who opposed categorizing Thomas in the women's group and allowing her to compete directly against women despite a clear physical advantage that no cis woman has, were proven right. But now PP wants to call those clearly valid arguments petty "moaning." Nope. Those swimmers had and continue to have the right to view what happened here as unjust.

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The PP and the others in this thread attacking Riley Gaines and the other swimmers who stood up for themselves are engaging in typical misogynist minimization of women who speak up for themselves. It’s classic in its form: attack looks, describe the fight to push back against sexism and misogyny as “moaning” or “whining,” imply ulterior motives, etc.

If you removed the context, and lined the quotes up, the sexist language is identical to the language used by far right activists to attack women who are pro-choice. And that is because the underlying driver in both cases is roiling misogyny. One of the saddest aspects of the rise in gender ideology is that it has laid bare the fact that there is very little difference on both ends of the political spectrum when it comes to how much they hate women.

BS narrative.

The left does not hate women.

GTFO.

The left certainly displays contempt for women on this issue, and even in this thread. You can’t help yourselves. Ideology over all.

No, they don’t. That’s just another RWNJ talking point that the “leftists” love to push.

Except that it’s demonstrably true, including many of your posts.

Would love to know if you’re a man or a woman, PP, and the source of your self loathing.

She is a woman. A deeply self-loathing one, and it is sad. The language she uses is steeped in misogyny and profound hatred of women, but she’s so immersed in it that she cannot see it.

One of the tragedies of the discussion around trans rights is that it has exposed many on the far left as being united with the far right in how much they despise women. Progressive leftists like the PP despise everything about women, and that drips from their language and their words in a way they can’t help. It’s something they marinate in, and so they can’t even see it. But that’s why they are so shocked when they run into the horror of the more mainstream population at the misogyny of their words and actions, and they react with tantrums and anger like our PP here, to avoid facing that dissonance.

Fake narrative that isn’t based on reality. AKA you’re full of sht.

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I’m not “self loathing” and none of the language I’ve used is “steeped in misogyny”.

I don’t despise women at all.

I am angered by bigots targeting vulnerable populations for political gain though. That is true.

You poor thing. I’m sorry but at this point, you need help more than anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

It’s unlikely PP is a MAGA. This is a 90/10 issue. It’s only in deep blue echo chambers like DCUM where people like you even exist. Outside of those small echo chambers, people would read your post and immediately dismiss you as crazy.

Most Americans correctly view what happened to the female Penn swimmers as a travesty. And Americans like their podium moments, and understand the loss of a once-in-a-lifetime moment. Your attempt to dismiss that loss because you are upset at discovering just how far outside the mainstream you are doesn’t change the fact you are far, far in the minority (and wrong) on this issue.

The angry cope from the blue cultists in this thread is wild to see.

Here’s what I believe - this has been blown up to be a huge issue and it is not. If you voted on this issue, you are a moron.

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And a bigot.

I believe what happened at Penn to the female swimmers was morally, ethically, and legally wrong. I believe it was wrong across the board, deeply sexist, and an example of the endemic misogyny in our country and culture. I believe people like you are on the wrong side of history.

If that makes me a bigot, that word has lost all meaning. And also, it means that at least 95% of the country and probably 99.9% of the world are “bigots.”

Hyperfocusing on transgender athletes during an election makes you a bigot.

Voting for a POS candidate like Trump over this “issue” makes you a bigot.

Posting about it 24x7 makes you a bigot.

Insisting that it’s “misogyny” makes you a bigot.

DP. Just because you have typed it out does not make it so.

Choosing to target transgender women was a choice you made, bigots.

It's choosing to stick up for girls and women. What's so difficult about that to understand?

Because it’s choosing to “stand up up girls and women” in an unhelpful way.

Where were the bigots when it comes to women’s training facilities? Or other significant inequalities in athletics that do affect THOUSANDS of girls and women every day?

We see you for what you are.

See, the crazy thing about voters is that you can’t stomp your feet and make them do exactly what you want simply because you want it. This is indeed a hard lesson for many on the progressive left, who never heard the word “no” growing up.

Many just ignorantly listen to RWNJ propaganda. Look at the whole price of eggs thing. Voters are dumb AF.

The GOP made a calculated move to attack transgender athletes because they studied the various issues and found that it was most triggering to a certain demographic.

Well, continue telling 95% of the country that they are dumb. I am sure that will work out for you as a strategy.

You suck at math.

The % of the country who was swayed to vote for Trump over eggs or transgender athletes is much, much lower than 95%. Only 23% of the country voted for the turd.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't necessarily disagree with Trump on this but one would think the president had bigger things to worry about than Ivy League swimming. Like all of those people who aren't going to have health care coverage. The cost of groceries that seemed to be such a problem during the election and hasn't gone down. The fact that he continues to call adults by childish nicknames.

This is all performative garbage for the ignorant masses while he continues to profit off this country.

10000% this. The amount of time people have spent wringing their hands about the tiny number of athletes involved is bananas.

If it’s a tiny number, then it shouldn’t be a big deal to tell them they can’t play with the women.

Common sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

It’s unlikely PP is a MAGA. This is a 90/10 issue. It’s only in deep blue echo chambers like DCUM where people like you even exist. Outside of those small echo chambers, people would read your post and immediately dismiss you as crazy.

Most Americans correctly view what happened to the female Penn swimmers as a travesty. And Americans like their podium moments, and understand the loss of a once-in-a-lifetime moment. Your attempt to dismiss that loss because you are upset at discovering just how far outside the mainstream you are doesn’t change the fact you are far, far in the minority (and wrong) on this issue.

The angry cope from the blue cultists in this thread is wild to see.

Here’s what I believe - this has been blown up to be a huge issue and it is not. If you voted on this issue, you are a moron.

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And a bigot.

I believe what happened at Penn to the female swimmers was morally, ethically, and legally wrong. I believe it was wrong across the board, deeply sexist, and an example of the endemic misogyny in our country and culture. I believe people like you are on the wrong side of history.

If that makes me a bigot, that word has lost all meaning. And also, it means that at least 95% of the country and probably 99.9% of the world are “bigots.”

Hyperfocusing on transgender athletes during an election makes you a bigot.

Voting for a POS candidate like Trump over this “issue” makes you a bigot.

Posting about it 24x7 makes you a bigot.

Insisting that it’s “misogyny” makes you a bigot.

DP. Just because you have typed it out does not make it so.

Choosing to target transgender women was a choice you made, bigots.

It's choosing to stick up for girls and women. What's so difficult about that to understand?

Because it’s choosing to “stand up up girls and women” in an unhelpful way.

Where were the bigots when it comes to women’s training facilities? Or other significant inequalities in athletics that do affect THOUSANDS of girls and women every day?

We see you for what you are.

See, the crazy thing about voters is that you can’t stomp your feet and make them do exactly what you want simply because you want it. This is indeed a hard lesson for many on the progressive left, who never heard the word “no” growing up.

Many just ignorantly listen to RWNJ propaganda. Look at the whole price of eggs thing. Voters are dumb AF.

The GOP made a calculated move to attack transgender athletes because they studied the various issues and found that it was most triggering to a certain demographic.

Well, continue telling 95% of the country that they are dumb. I am sure that will work out for you as a strategy.

You suck at math.

The % of the country who was swayed to vote for Trump over eggs or transgender athletes is much, much lower than 95%. Only 23% of the country voted for the turd.

Okay, you run with that approach. See how it works out for you.