I didn't come to an art museum to watch you nurse a toddler

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Anonymous wrote:You problem entirely.

And no I don’t need to cover or leave the room.

Pop that kid in a sling, latch, keep it moving, or sit as needed. I’ve nursed on just about every bench on every museum and at the arboretum and zoo as well. It’s how you manage kids on dc. Free spots with ac when it’s warm and outside when it’s cooler

Not every child weans at one year or solids. It’s normal for a toddler to comfort nurse as well.

And we shouldn’t have to hike to a lactation room hell and gone across the museum so you’re comfy. Grow up.

Parents like you are the worst. Nursing a toddler in a gallery to calm them is just weird. They don't NEED to nurse. Take them outside.

Your kids are going to be spoiled entitled PITAs just like you. Annoying and rude.

Says the person having a temper tantrum online.

Maybe they don’t NEED to nurse, but it helps them and they’re still very young plus I don’t mind doing it - and can easily comfort a tired kiddo.

How often does adults do we get to be simply soothed?

Nope.

Nursing slurping toddlers in a public space meant for quiet contemplation is inappropriate. If a child needs soothing, take them elsewhere. So sick of entitled parents raising entitled, annoying kids.

Having a tough moment is not entitlement. Expecting silence is though.

Nope.

There are multiple *public* spaces where quiet/silence are expected. Art museums, churches, etc. If you ignore this, you are the one acting rude and entitled. Period.

Take your noisy toddler out. I'm tired of the militant breast feeding brigade and the over-indulgent parents of the world trying to pretend that they are above basic manners and civiity. You and your children are insufferable and we will not coddle you.

They give tours of art museums. People talk all the time in art museums. There is no expectation of silence. You are the one demanding to be coddled.

Seriously! It's not a library. OP (and pp) seems confused.

They don't allow snacks, bottles, drinks, beverages of any sort. If your toddler cannot go the length of time required to get throught a couple of galleries at the museum, you should not be taking them there. I have been a museum leader in this city for over 15 years--this is not appreciated.

A "museum leader", eh?

Then clearly you know why many public spaces don't allow "snacks, bottles, drinks, beverages of any sort" (and several galleries DO allow water, so deal with that). It's trash. Nobody wants to deal with the trash left behind. This is a mess-reduction protocol.

So unless she was taking off her titties and throwing them on the ground when her kid was done, this isn't the same thing. At all.

You are 100% wrong. It's not because of the trash, it's because of the threat that liquids pose to the objects. But the point is, if every other human being can manage to visit a museum without "soothing," then the toddler should be able to. If they cannot, please wait until they can control themselves enough not to disrupt the experience for everybody else. The only reason breastfeeding toddlers in the middle of a gallery is not stopped is because of the vitriol the breastfeeding lunatics will rain down on the museum if they do. It is wrong to sit in the middle of the gallery and breastfeed at all, even more so with a toddler. Every single person here defending it knows that and is just doubling down.

Please tell me about the last time an object was “threatened” by breastmilk and what you did to mitigate this unbelievable risk. Did you throw yourself in front of the painting?

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Anonymous wrote:Ew why were you watching?? super creepy

I think she was listening.

ASMR

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Anonymous wrote:You problem entirely.

And no I don’t need to cover or leave the room.

Pop that kid in a sling, latch, keep it moving, or sit as needed. I’ve nursed on just about every bench on every museum and at the arboretum and zoo as well. It’s how you manage kids on dc. Free spots with ac when it’s warm and outside when it’s cooler

Not every child weans at one year or solids. It’s normal for a toddler to comfort nurse as well.

And we shouldn’t have to hike to a lactation room hell and gone across the museum so you’re comfy. Grow up.

Parents like you are the worst. Nursing a toddler in a gallery to calm them is just weird. They don't NEED to nurse. Take them outside.

Your kids are going to be spoiled entitled PITAs just like you. Annoying and rude.

Says the person having a temper tantrum online.

Maybe they don’t NEED to nurse, but it helps them and they’re still very young plus I don’t mind doing it - and can easily comfort a tired kiddo.

How often does adults do we get to be simply soothed?

Nope.

Nursing slurping toddlers in a public space meant for quiet contemplation is inappropriate. If a child needs soothing, take them elsewhere. So sick of entitled parents raising entitled, annoying kids.

Having a tough moment is not entitlement. Expecting silence is though.

Nope.

There are multiple *public* spaces where quiet/silence are expected. Art museums, churches, etc. If you ignore this, you are the one acting rude and entitled. Period.

Take your noisy toddler out. I'm tired of the militant breast feeding brigade and the over-indulgent parents of the world trying to pretend that they are above basic manners and civiity. You and your children are insufferable and we will not coddle you.

They give tours of art museums. People talk all the time in art museums. There is no expectation of silence. You are the one demanding to be coddled.

Seriously! It's not a library. OP (and pp) seems confused.

They don't allow snacks, bottles, drinks, beverages of any sort. If your toddler cannot go the length of time required to get throught a couple of galleries at the museum, you should not be taking them there. I have been a museum leader in this city for over 15 years--this is not appreciated.

A "museum leader", eh?

Then clearly you know why many public spaces don't allow "snacks, bottles, drinks, beverages of any sort" (and several galleries DO allow water, so deal with that). It's trash. Nobody wants to deal with the trash left behind. This is a mess-reduction protocol.

So unless she was taking off her titties and throwing them on the ground when her kid was done, this isn't the same thing. At all.

You are 100% wrong. It's not because of the trash, it's because of the threat that liquids pose to the objects. But the point is, if every other human being can manage to visit a museum without "soothing," then the toddler should be able to. If they cannot, please wait until they can control themselves enough not to disrupt the experience for everybody else. The only reason breastfeeding toddlers in the middle of a gallery is not stopped is because of the vitriol the breastfeeding lunatics will rain down on the museum if they do. It is wrong to sit in the middle of the gallery and breastfeed at all, even more so with a toddler. Every single person here defending it knows that and is just doubling down.

No it’s not stopped because it’s protected by law. You clearly are not “a museum leader” of an institution of much repute because you’d be well aware of that fact.

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A speaking toddler can wait for his boobies. We’re not talking about an infant who is ebf.

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Anonymous wrote:You problem entirely.

And no I don’t need to cover or leave the room.

Pop that kid in a sling, latch, keep it moving, or sit as needed. I’ve nursed on just about every bench on every museum and at the arboretum and zoo as well. It’s how you manage kids on dc. Free spots with ac when it’s warm and outside when it’s cooler

Not every child weans at one year or solids. It’s normal for a toddler to comfort nurse as well.

And we shouldn’t have to hike to a lactation room hell and gone across the museum so you’re comfy. Grow up.

Parents like you are the worst. Nursing a toddler in a gallery to calm them is just weird. They don't NEED to nurse. Take them outside.

Your kids are going to be spoiled entitled PITAs just like you. Annoying and rude.

Says the person having a temper tantrum online.

Maybe they don’t NEED to nurse, but it helps them and they’re still very young plus I don’t mind doing it - and can easily comfort a tired kiddo.

How often does adults do we get to be simply soothed?

Nope.

Nursing slurping toddlers in a public space meant for quiet contemplation is inappropriate. If a child needs soothing, take them elsewhere. So sick of entitled parents raising entitled, annoying kids.

Having a tough moment is not entitlement. Expecting silence is though.

Nope.

There are multiple *public* spaces where quiet/silence are expected. Art museums, churches, etc. If you ignore this, you are the one acting rude and entitled. Period.

Take your noisy toddler out. I'm tired of the militant breast feeding brigade and the over-indulgent parents of the world trying to pretend that they are above basic manners and civiity. You and your children are insufferable and we will not coddle you.

They give tours of art museums. People talk all the time in art museums. There is no expectation of silence. You are the one demanding to be coddled.

Do you not know what quiet means? Like low voices and no slurping. No coddling, just understanding of basic polite behavior in these types of spaces. But entitled parent types don't grasp these subtleties.

A child drinking does not make more noise than a tour guide. You absolutely are demanding to be coddled. It's absurd that you're judging a two year old when you are whining like one.

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Anonymous wrote:A speaking toddler can wait for his boobies. We’re not talking about an infant who is ebf.

Can? Maybe. But doesn’t have to just because op is big mad.

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Anonymous wrote:Vent.

Went to the East Wing of the National Gallery yesterday. There was a noisy toddler with their parents in the same room who was begging for "boob" and then started noisily nursing. It was bone quiet and the kid was slurping and grunting.

Why does this annoy me so much? I nursed multiple kids, heck, I've nursed a kid in the National gallery! But I chose to do so outside the exhibit and privately as I could. (this was way before lactation rooms were a thing).

I want to be sympathetic and supportive of nursing mothers, but personally, I'm just really grossed out by older children loudly nursing. And feel like my experience was diminished and they were disrespectful
Of the patrons who WERE NOT interested in their kid's snack.

To answer your question, I think it annoys you so much because it goes against your internal rules. When my kids were small the school counselor explained this. Let’s say Child A is taught it’s wrong to say the word “penis” and you never ever say it. It will annoy Child A every single time Child B says it. No matter how many times the teacher says different households have different rules, every time Child B says it, it will sound like chalk scraping on the chalkboard to Child A.

Adults are really no different.

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Anonymous wrote:Vent.

Went to the East Wing of the National Gallery yesterday. There was a noisy toddler with their parents in the same room who was begging for "boob" and then started noisily nursing. It was bone quiet and the kid was slurping and grunting.

Why does this annoy me so much? I nursed multiple kids, heck, I've nursed a kid in the National gallery! But I chose to do so outside the exhibit and privately as I could. (this was way before lactation rooms were a thing).

I want to be sympathetic and supportive of nursing mothers, but personally, I'm just really grossed out by older children loudly nursing. And feel like my experience was diminished and they were disrespectful
Of the patrons who WERE NOT interested in their kid's snack.

To answer your question, I think it annoys you so much because it goes against your internal rules. When my kids were small the school counselor explained this. Let’s say Child A is taught it’s wrong to say the word “penis” and you never ever say it. It will annoy Child A every single time Child B says it. No matter how many times the teacher says different households have different rules, every time Child B says it, it will sound like chalk scraping on the chalkboard to Child A.

Adults are really no different.

Thank you. You were able to explain this beautifully. This is how we process so many things, especially when it comes to our families.

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Anonymous wrote:A speaking toddler can wait for his boobies. We’re not talking about an infant who is ebf.

Can? Maybe. But doesn’t have to just because op is big mad.

Doesn’t have to - but if mom makes this choice she is going to be judged as gross, rude and as having poor parenting skills.

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Anonymous wrote:Vent.

Went to the East Wing of the National Gallery yesterday. There was a noisy toddler with their parents in the same room who was begging for "boob" and then started noisily nursing. It was bone quiet and the kid was slurping and grunting.

Why does this annoy me so much? I nursed multiple kids, heck, I've nursed a kid in the National gallery! But I chose to do so outside the exhibit and privately as I could. (this was way before lactation rooms were a thing).

I want to be sympathetic and supportive of nursing mothers, but personally, I'm just really grossed out by older children loudly nursing. And feel like my experience was diminished and they were disrespectful
Of the patrons who WERE NOT interested in their kid's snack.

To answer your question, I think it annoys you so much because it goes against your internal rules. When my kids were small the school counselor explained this. Let’s say Child A is taught it’s wrong to say the word “penis” and you never ever say it. It will annoy Child A every single time Child B says it. No matter how many times the teacher says different households have different rules, every time Child B says it, it will sound like chalk scraping on the chalkboard to Child A.

Adults are really no different.

Adults who have been around for a while can tell that a parent that allows their child to demand “boob” and breastfeed on demand in a highly public place is engaged in a really permissive parenting style that will be bad for the kid and likely generate a lot more future annoyance.

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Anonymous wrote:You problem entirely.

And no I don’t need to cover or leave the room.

Pop that kid in a sling, latch, keep it moving, or sit as needed. I’ve nursed on just about every bench on every museum and at the arboretum and zoo as well. It’s how you manage kids on dc. Free spots with ac when it’s warm and outside when it’s cooler

Not every child weans at one year or solids. It’s normal for a toddler to comfort nurse as well.

And we shouldn’t have to hike to a lactation room hell and gone across the museum so you’re comfy. Grow up.

Parents like you are the worst. Nursing a toddler in a gallery to calm them is just weird. They don't NEED to nurse. Take them outside.

Your kids are going to be spoiled entitled PITAs just like you. Annoying and rude.

Says the person having a temper tantrum online.

Maybe they don’t NEED to nurse, but it helps them and they’re still very young plus I don’t mind doing it - and can easily comfort a tired kiddo.

How often does adults do we get to be simply soothed?

Nope.

Nursing slurping toddlers in a public space meant for quiet contemplation is inappropriate. If a child needs soothing, take them elsewhere. So sick of entitled parents raising entitled, annoying kids.

Having a tough moment is not entitlement. Expecting silence is though.

Nope.

There are multiple *public* spaces where quiet/silence are expected. Art museums, churches, etc. If you ignore this, you are the one acting rude and entitled. Period.

Take your noisy toddler out. I'm tired of the militant breast feeding brigade and the over-indulgent parents of the world trying to pretend that they are above basic manners and civiity. You and your children are insufferable and we will not coddle you.

They give tours of art museums. People talk all the time in art museums. There is no expectation of silence. You are the one demanding to be coddled.

Seriously! It's not a library. OP (and pp) seems confused.

They don't allow snacks, bottles, drinks, beverages of any sort. If your toddler cannot go the length of time required to get throught a couple of galleries at the museum, you should not be taking them there. I have been a museum leader in this city for over 15 years--this is not appreciated.

A "museum leader", eh?

Then clearly you know why many public spaces don't allow "snacks, bottles, drinks, beverages of any sort" (and several galleries DO allow water, so deal with that). It's trash. Nobody wants to deal with the trash left behind. This is a mess-reduction protocol.

So unless she was taking off her titties and throwing them on the ground when her kid was done, this isn't the same thing. At all.

You are 100% wrong. It's not because of the trash, it's because of the threat that liquids pose to the objects. But the point is, if every other human being can manage to visit a museum without "soothing," then the toddler should be able to. If they cannot, please wait until they can control themselves enough not to disrupt the experience for everybody else. The only reason breastfeeding toddlers in the middle of a gallery is not stopped is because of the vitriol the breastfeeding lunatics will rain down on the museum if they do. It is wrong to sit in the middle of the gallery and breastfeed at all, even more so with a toddler. Every single person here defending it knows that and is just doubling down.

Please tell me about the last time an object was “threatened” by breastmilk and what you did to mitigate this unbelievable risk. Did you throw yourself in front of the painting?

You’re being deliberately slow. A painting isn’t threatened by milk any more than it’s threatened by orange juice. We still don’t want food anywhere near priceless art.

How is that hard to understand?

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Anonymous wrote:A speaking toddler can wait for his boobies. We’re not talking about an infant who is ebf.

Can? Maybe. But doesn’t have to just because op is big mad.

Doesn’t have to - but if mom makes this choice she is going to be judged as gross, rude and as having poor parenting skills.

Just by people like “museum leader who sees breastmilk as a threat” and honestly there’s some people in life whose judgement no one should worry about— op is one of them. The rest of us learned early to mind our own business and that good manners means leaving a room if we’re that uncomfortable.

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Anonymous wrote:You problem entirely.

And no I don’t need to cover or leave the room.

Pop that kid in a sling, latch, keep it moving, or sit as needed. I’ve nursed on just about every bench on every museum and at the arboretum and zoo as well. It’s how you manage kids on dc. Free spots with ac when it’s warm and outside when it’s cooler

Not every child weans at one year or solids. It’s normal for a toddler to comfort nurse as well.

And we shouldn’t have to hike to a lactation room hell and gone across the museum so you’re comfy. Grow up.

Parents like you are the worst. Nursing a toddler in a gallery to calm them is just weird. They don't NEED to nurse. Take them outside.

Your kids are going to be spoiled entitled PITAs just like you. Annoying and rude.

Says the person having a temper tantrum online.

Maybe they don’t NEED to nurse, but it helps them and they’re still very young plus I don’t mind doing it - and can easily comfort a tired kiddo.

How often does adults do we get to be simply soothed?

Nope.

Nursing slurping toddlers in a public space meant for quiet contemplation is inappropriate. If a child needs soothing, take them elsewhere. So sick of entitled parents raising entitled, annoying kids.

Having a tough moment is not entitlement. Expecting silence is though.

Nope.

There are multiple *public* spaces where quiet/silence are expected. Art museums, churches, etc. If you ignore this, you are the one acting rude and entitled. Period.

Take your noisy toddler out. I'm tired of the militant breast feeding brigade and the over-indulgent parents of the world trying to pretend that they are above basic manners and civiity. You and your children are insufferable and we will not coddle you.

They give tours of art museums. People talk all the time in art museums. There is no expectation of silence. You are the one demanding to be coddled.

Seriously! It's not a library. OP (and pp) seems confused.

They don't allow snacks, bottles, drinks, beverages of any sort. If your toddler cannot go the length of time required to get throught a couple of galleries at the museum, you should not be taking them there. I have been a museum leader in this city for over 15 years--this is not appreciated.

A "museum leader", eh?

Then clearly you know why many public spaces don't allow "snacks, bottles, drinks, beverages of any sort" (and several galleries DO allow water, so deal with that). It's trash. Nobody wants to deal with the trash left behind. This is a mess-reduction protocol.

So unless she was taking off her titties and throwing them on the ground when her kid was done, this isn't the same thing. At all.

You are 100% wrong. It's not because of the trash, it's because of the threat that liquids pose to the objects. But the point is, if every other human being can manage to visit a museum without "soothing," then the toddler should be able to. If they cannot, please wait until they can control themselves enough not to disrupt the experience for everybody else. The only reason breastfeeding toddlers in the middle of a gallery is not stopped is because of the vitriol the breastfeeding lunatics will rain down on the museum if they do. It is wrong to sit in the middle of the gallery and breastfeed at all, even more so with a toddler. Every single person here defending it knows that and is just doubling down.

Please tell me about the last time an object was “threatened” by breastmilk and what you did to mitigate this unbelievable risk. Did you throw yourself in front of the painting?

You’re being deliberately slow. A painting isn’t threatened by milk any more than it’s threatened by orange juice. We still don’t want food anywhere near priceless art.

How is that hard to understand?

Really you don’t want dangerous breastfeeding? The Smithsonian says differently but I’m sure your collection is more priceless than the Hirshhorns for example?

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Anonymous wrote:A speaking toddler can wait for his boobies. We’re not talking about an infant who is ebf.

Can? Maybe. But doesn’t have to just because op is big mad.

Big mad is the person who posted a flurry of replies this morning. Triggered. Needs a boobie.

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Anonymous wrote:A speaking toddler can wait for his boobies. We’re not talking about an infant who is ebf.

Can? Maybe. But doesn’t have to just because op is big mad.

Doesn’t have to - but if mom makes this choice she is going to be judged as gross, rude and as having poor parenting skills.

Only by judgmental twats. So not worth worrying about.