Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Like Dufief, Travilah ES is also much closer to QO than to Wootton.

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Anonymous wrote:Why move Dufief though? It’s attended Frost and Wootton for decades (neither school is over crowded) and has such a small student population it barely makes a difference in total numbers.

Because DuFief is not geographically close to Wootton. There are many other neighborhoods and schools that are closer and DuFief is very close to QO. Why dont you care about neighborhood schools and geographic proximity like all the other parents?

And yet, they are mostly leaving Travilah alone…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But isn’t RM also overcrowded? I don’t understand proposing moving Ritchie Park out of JW and then back to RM.

RM is below capacity under all 4 options.

So is Poolesville.

Because those utilization numbers only include "resident students," i.e. the magnet students aren't counted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why move Dufief though? It’s attended Frost and Wootton for decades (neither school is over crowded) and has such a small student population it barely makes a difference in total numbers.

Because DuFief is not geographically close to Wootton. There are many other neighborhoods and schools that are closer and DuFief is very close to QO. Why dont you care about neighborhood schools and geographic proximity like all the other parents?

Sure, neighborhood schools. That’s why three out of four of the dufief options have split articulation and bus them all over. And they make massive changes to Dufief while making more minor ones to the surrounding Travilah and Stone Mill. I’m sure it’s really about neighborhood schools and geographic proximity and not at all about the fact they think DuFief will just sit quietly and not fight this.

Dufief is already bused farther away to Wootton and Frost. Many parts of Dufief are within walking/biking distance to QO. Not sure what you mean by "bus them all over". I think we get it, you don't want you children going to school with poor people.

Sounds like you are stuck on option 1 and not paying attention to the rest of them and all of the split articulation that goes along with the other options. That is terrible for kid’s mental health. And no, QO is not a school with poor people in my opinion. However, I did pay a premium to buy in a certain district, based on historical zoning, and I won’t act like that doesn’t matter.
It also could affect property values.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why move Dufief though? It’s attended Frost and Wootton for decades (neither school is over crowded) and has such a small student population it barely makes a difference in total numbers.

Because DuFief is not geographically close to Wootton. There are many other neighborhoods and schools that are closer and DuFief is very close to QO. Why dont you care about neighborhood schools and geographic proximity like all the other parents?

Sure, neighborhood schools. That’s why three out of four of the dufief options have split articulation and bus them all over. And they make massive changes to Dufief while making more minor ones to the surrounding Travilah and Stone Mill. I’m sure it’s really about neighborhood schools and geographic proximity and not at all about the fact they think DuFief will just sit quietly and not fight this.

That’s right, they thinks DuFief is small neighborhood and can bully us. We need to fight back for this. It’s been this week for decades.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why move Dufief though? It’s attended Frost and Wootton for decades (neither school is over crowded) and has such a small student population it barely makes a difference in total numbers.

Because DuFief is not geographically close to Wootton. There are many other neighborhoods and schools that are closer and DuFief is very close to QO. Why dont you care about neighborhood schools and geographic proximity like all the other parents?

Sure, neighborhood schools. That’s why three out of four of the dufief options have split articulation and bus them all over. And they make massive changes to Dufief while making more minor ones to the surrounding Travilah and Stone Mill. I’m sure it’s really about neighborhood schools and geographic proximity and not at all about the fact they think DuFief will just sit quietly and not fight this.

That’s right, they thinks DuFief is small neighborhood and can bully us. We need to fight back for this. It’s been this week for decades.

It’s been this boundary for decades, plus frost ms and Wootton hs is currently undercapacity and undercrowded. They should move the travailah to qo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So why would options 2 and 4 cut off a chunk of Lakewood Elementary and send it to Crown when the rest of Lakewood stays at Wootton? The chunk seems to be a similar distance from Crown and Wootton (but maybe a little closer to Wootton), so it doesn’t seem to be about distance. And it certainly doesn’t help with stability. And I don’t think Wootton is overcrowded so it’s not a school that needs to cut people out for no reason. I don’t get it.

Maybe MCPS thinks this small chunk doesn’t have much voice. Bully the easy target.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So why would options 2 and 4 cut off a chunk of Lakewood Elementary and send it to Crown when the rest of Lakewood stays at Wootton? The chunk seems to be a similar distance from Crown and Wootton (but maybe a little closer to Wootton), so it doesn’t seem to be about distance. And it certainly doesn’t help with stability. And I don’t think Wootton is overcrowded so it’s not a school that needs to cut people out for no reason. I don’t get it.

Maybe MCPS thinks this small chunk doesn’t have much voice. Bully the easy target.

This will not be pretty!

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Anonymous wrote:So why would options 2 and 4 cut off a chunk of Lakewood Elementary and send it to Crown when the rest of Lakewood stays at Wootton? The chunk seems to be a similar distance from Crown and Wootton (but maybe a little closer to Wootton), so it doesn’t seem to be about distance. And it certainly doesn’t help with stability. And I don’t think Wootton is overcrowded so it’s not a school that needs to cut people out for no reason. I don’t get it.

Maybe MCPS thinks this small chunk doesn’t have much voice. Bully the easy target.

This will not be pretty!

One thing to notice is that these expensive houses are nearly unimpacted while the relatively poorer neighborhoods get rezoned out of Wootton.

[Anonymous]

Option 1&3: Churchill Asian increased from 33% to 37%, FARMS decreased from 10.9% to 9.9%. Wootton Asian increased from 37.4% to 43.2% and FARMS decreased from 13.4% to 11.9%.

I'm pretty sure the current options will exacerbate educational inequality, but I amsatisfied. I wonder can we reduce the FARMS to 5% or even lower for Churchill?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So why would options 2 and 4 cut off a chunk of Lakewood Elementary and send it to Crown when the rest of Lakewood stays at Wootton? The chunk seems to be a similar distance from Crown and Wootton (but maybe a little closer to Wootton), so it doesn’t seem to be about distance. And it certainly doesn’t help with stability. And I don’t think Wootton is overcrowded so it’s not a school that needs to cut people out for no reason. I don’t get it.

Maybe MCPS thinks this small chunk doesn’t have much voice. Bully the easy target.

Yeah. I guess breaking apart little chunks here and there reduces our ability to have a voice in all this. It’s just sad to see it when it will obviously cause major disruption in kids’ lives being split apart from kids they’ve gone to school with since they were five. And to what end? Will these little broken off neighborhoods really help anything?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Option 1&3: Churchill Asian increased from 33% to 37%, FARMS decreased from 10.9% to 9.9%. Wootton Asian increased from 37.4% to 43.2% and FARMS decreased from 13.4% to 11.9%.

I'm pretty sure the current options will exacerbate educational inequality, but I amsatisfied. I wonder can we reduce the FARMS to 5% or even lower for Churchill?

Some of your numbers are mixed up. But all four options either maintain or increase Asian/white % in Churchill and Wootton so really no big difference

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Option 1&3: Churchill Asian increased from 33% to 37%, FARMS decreased from 10.9% to 9.9%. Wootton Asian increased from 37.4% to 43.2% and FARMS decreased from 13.4% to 11.9%.

I'm pretty sure the current options will exacerbate educational inequality, but I amsatisfied. I wonder can we reduce the FARMS to 5% or even lower for Churchill?

Are we looking at different data set? For all 4 options, Churchill Asian decrease from 37% to34.7% and farm from 9.9% to 9.8%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So why would options 2 and 4 cut off a chunk of Lakewood Elementary and send it to Crown when the rest of Lakewood stays at Wootton? The chunk seems to be a similar distance from Crown and Wootton (but maybe a little closer to Wootton), so it doesn’t seem to be about distance. And it certainly doesn’t help with stability. And I don’t think Wootton is overcrowded so it’s not a school that needs to cut people out for no reason. I don’t get it.

Maybe MCPS thinks this small chunk doesn’t have much voice. Bully the easy target.

Yeah. I guess breaking apart little chunks here and there reduces our ability to have a voice in all this. It’s just sad to see it when it will obviously cause major disruption in kids’ lives being split apart from kids they’ve gone to school with since they were five. And to what end? Will these little broken off neighborhoods really help anything?

This makes options 2 and 4 the worst. Please preserve continuity for these small neighborhoods. It’s heartbroken to be the only few gets split to different HS schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To no one’s surprise, very little change to Churchill under any of the options.

We are currently in Churchill district and moving to Wootton in all 4 options.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So why would options 2 and 4 cut off a chunk of Lakewood Elementary and send it to Crown when the rest of Lakewood stays at Wootton? The chunk seems to be a similar distance from Crown and Wootton (but maybe a little closer to Wootton), so it doesn’t seem to be about distance. And it certainly doesn’t help with stability. And I don’t think Wootton is overcrowded so it’s not a school that needs to cut people out for no reason. I don’t get it.

Maybe MCPS thinks this small chunk doesn’t have much voice. Bully the easy target.

Yeah. I guess breaking apart little chunks here and there reduces our ability to have a voice in all this. It’s just sad to see it when it will obviously cause major disruption in kids’ lives being split apart from kids they’ve gone to school with since they were five. And to what end? Will these little broken off neighborhoods really help anything?

This makes options 2 and 4 the worst. Please preserve continuity for these small neighborhoods. It’s heartbroken to be the only few gets split to different HS schools

Agreed!
They aren’t going to appease everyone so option 1 seems the best and will lead to the best outcome - less split articulations, less bussing long distances, preserving neighborhoods going close to nearby schools, etc.