Bethesda Today: Behavioral issues, lack of support creating unsafe classrooms

[Anonymous]

Mcps has to make a bold plan for bringing back consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t teachers allowed to implement consequences to kids flinging chairs?

I keep seeing this mentioned, I've worked in schools for over 15 years, can only recall one incident a desk was knocked over, is this a situation being exaggerated?

When you’re in a class with a child that flips desks, it happens many times a year.

Okay, but how common is that.

My first grade daughter witnessed a classmate throw a chair several times this year. Today a boy in her class tackled the classroom teacher and started punching her.

Zero consequences I bet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mcps has to make a bold plan for bringing back consequences.

They’re too busy fighting for power.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t teachers allowed to implement consequences to kids flinging chairs?

I keep seeing this mentioned, I've worked in schools for over 15 years, can only recall one incident a desk was knocked over, is this a situation being exaggerated?

When you’re in a class with a child that flips desks, it happens many times a year.

Okay, but how common is that.

My first grade daughter witnessed a classmate throw a chair several times this year. Today a boy in her class tackled the classroom teacher and started punching her.

Zero consequences I bet.

My understanding is the boy has special needs so can consequences be given? What consequence could be given to a six or seven year old?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t teachers allowed to implement consequences to kids flinging chairs?

I keep seeing this mentioned, I've worked in schools for over 15 years, can only recall one incident a desk was knocked over, is this a situation being exaggerated?

When you’re in a class with a child that flips desks, it happens many times a year.

Okay, but how common is that.

My first grade daughter witnessed a classmate throw a chair several times this year. Today a boy in her class tackled the classroom teacher and started punching her.

Zero consequences I bet.

My understanding is the boy has special needs so can consequences be given? What consequence could be given to a six or seven year old?

Your understanding is wrong, as usual.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t teachers allowed to implement consequences to kids flinging chairs?

I keep seeing this mentioned, I've worked in schools for over 15 years, can only recall one incident a desk was knocked over, is this a situation being exaggerated?

When you’re in a class with a child that flips desks, it happens many times a year.

Okay, but how common is that.

My first grade daughter witnessed a classmate throw a chair several times this year. Today a boy in her class tackled the classroom teacher and started punching her.

Zero consequences I bet.

My understanding is the boy has special needs so can consequences be given? What consequence could be given to a six or seven year old?

Your understanding is wrong, as usual.

FACT. I am a teacher. We dealt with a serious physical alteration. Principal recommended suspension, central office said it was not permitted due to an IEP. The IEP was for speech... Elementary school principals have their hands tied.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t teachers allowed to implement consequences to kids flinging chairs?

I keep seeing this mentioned, I've worked in schools for over 15 years, can only recall one incident a desk was knocked over, is this a situation being exaggerated?

When you’re in a class with a child that flips desks, it happens many times a year.

Okay, but how common is that.

My first grade daughter witnessed a classmate throw a chair several times this year. Today a boy in her class tackled the classroom teacher and started punching her.

Zero consequences I bet.

My understanding is the boy has special needs so can consequences be given? What consequence could be given to a six or seven year old?

Your understanding is wrong, as usual.

Ha, as usual? Do you think only one person posts here?

PP, if the student has an IEP, and there are goals for the behaviors you described, the school is limited in what consequences can be given, especially if it’s a result of the student’s disability. The school is tasked with determining the cause of the behavior and providing interventions to address the triggers of the behavior, and those should not be punitive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t teachers allowed to implement consequences to kids flinging chairs?

I keep seeing this mentioned, I've worked in schools for over 15 years, can only recall one incident a desk was knocked over, is this a situation being exaggerated?

When you’re in a class with a child that flips desks, it happens many times a year.

Okay, but how common is that.

My first grade daughter witnessed a classmate throw a chair several times this year. Today a boy in her class tackled the classroom teacher and started punching her.

Zero consequences I bet.

My understanding is the boy has special needs so can consequences be given? What consequence could be given to a six or seven year old?

Your understanding is wrong, as usual.

FACT. I am a teacher. We dealt with a serious physical alteration. Principal recommended suspension, central office said it was not permitted due to an IEP. The IEP was for speech... Elementary school principals have their hands tied.

The behaviors have to relate to the IEP. You can have consequences for physical alterations if their speech goals are unrelated to their behaviors.

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t teachers allowed to implement consequences to kids flinging chairs?

I keep seeing this mentioned, I've worked in schools for over 15 years, can only recall one incident a desk was knocked over, is this a situation being exaggerated?

When you’re in a class with a child that flips desks, it happens many times a year.

Okay, but how common is that.

My first grade daughter witnessed a classmate throw a chair several times this year. Today a boy in her class tackled the classroom teacher and started punching her.

Zero consequences I bet.

My understanding is the boy has special needs so can consequences be given? What consequence could be given to a six or seven year old?

Your understanding is wrong, as usual.

FACT. I am a teacher. We dealt with a serious physical alteration. Principal recommended suspension, central office said it was not permitted due to an IEP. The IEP was for speech... Elementary school principals have their hands tied.

The behaviors have to relate to the IEP. You can have consequences for physical alterations if their speech goals are unrelated to their behaviors.

That is true on paper. That is not true in MCPS right now. Principals are not allowed to give true consequences to students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t teachers allowed to implement consequences to kids flinging chairs?

I keep seeing this mentioned, I've worked in schools for over 15 years, can only recall one incident a desk was knocked over, is this a situation being exaggerated?

When you’re in a class with a child that flips desks, it happens many times a year.

Okay, but how common is that.

My first grade daughter witnessed a classmate throw a chair several times this year. Today a boy in her class tackled the classroom teacher and started punching her.

Zero consequences I bet.

My understanding is the boy has special needs so can consequences be given? What consequence could be given to a six or seven year old?

Your understanding is wrong, as usual.

Ha, as usual? Do you think only one person posts here?

PP, if the student has an IEP, and there are goals for the behaviors you described, the school is limited in what consequences can be given, especially if it’s a result of the student’s disability. The school is tasked with determining the cause of the behavior and providing interventions to address the triggers of the behavior, and those should not be punitive.

Surely you don’t think such an asinine gig can last forever, do you?

None of this garbage is based on evidence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t teachers allowed to implement consequences to kids flinging chairs?

I keep seeing this mentioned, I've worked in schools for over 15 years, can only recall one incident a desk was knocked over, is this a situation being exaggerated?

When you’re in a class with a child that flips desks, it happens many times a year.

Okay, but how common is that.

My first grade daughter witnessed a classmate throw a chair several times this year. Today a boy in her class tackled the classroom teacher and started punching her.

Zero consequences I bet.

My understanding is the boy has special needs so can consequences be given? What consequence could be given to a six or seven year old?

Your understanding is wrong, as usual.

FACT. I am a teacher. We dealt with a serious physical alteration. Principal recommended suspension, central office said it was not permitted due to an IEP. The IEP was for speech... Elementary school principals have their hands tied.

For someone claiming to be a teacher, you seem awfully oblivious to the process. You're just making things up to fill in the details you don't know. Poorly.

I hope you're not a current teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t teachers allowed to implement consequences to kids flinging chairs?

I keep seeing this mentioned, I've worked in schools for over 15 years, can only recall one incident a desk was knocked over, is this a situation being exaggerated?

When you’re in a class with a child that flips desks, it happens many times a year.

Okay, but how common is that.

My first grade daughter witnessed a classmate throw a chair several times this year. Today a boy in her class tackled the classroom teacher and started punching her.

Zero consequences I bet.

My understanding is the boy has special needs so can consequences be given? What consequence could be given to a six or seven year old?

Your understanding is wrong, as usual.

FACT. I am a teacher. We dealt with a serious physical alteration. Principal recommended suspension, central office said it was not permitted due to an IEP. The IEP was for speech... Elementary school principals have their hands tied.

What needs to happen at what level to get more support around this (separation/meaningful consequences for violent students). Federal law? State law? Dept of Ed? School Board? Central Office? I think many would advocate for more common sense around these issues but do not know what needs to happen for it to return.

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t teachers allowed to implement consequences to kids flinging chairs?

I keep seeing this mentioned, I've worked in schools for over 15 years, can only recall one incident a desk was knocked over, is this a situation being exaggerated?

When you’re in a class with a child that flips desks, it happens many times a year.

Okay, but how common is that.

My first grade daughter witnessed a classmate throw a chair several times this year. Today a boy in her class tackled the classroom teacher and started punching her.

Zero consequences I bet.

My understanding is the boy has special needs so can consequences be given? What consequence could be given to a six or seven year old?

Your understanding is wrong, as usual.

FACT. I am a teacher. We dealt with a serious physical alteration. Principal recommended suspension, central office said it was not permitted due to an IEP. The IEP was for speech... Elementary school principals have their hands tied.

The behaviors have to relate to the IEP. You can have consequences for physical alterations if their speech goals are unrelated to their behaviors.

That is true on paper. That is not true in MCPS right now. Principals are not allowed to give true consequences to students.

This is the problem with MCPS. Their general counsel is so conservative that they unnecessarily avoid any hint of risk, even if law or policy gives them discretion to make judgement calls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t teachers allowed to implement consequences to kids flinging chairs?

I keep seeing this mentioned, I've worked in schools for over 15 years, can only recall one incident a desk was knocked over, is this a situation being exaggerated?

When you’re in a class with a child that flips desks, it happens many times a year.

Okay, but how common is that.

Very

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t teachers allowed to implement consequences to kids flinging chairs?

I keep seeing this mentioned, I've worked in schools for over 15 years, can only recall one incident a desk was knocked over, is this a situation being exaggerated?

When you’re in a class with a child that flips desks, it happens many times a year.

Okay, but how common is that.

My first grade daughter witnessed a classmate throw a chair several times this year. Today a boy in her class tackled the classroom teacher and started punching her.

Zero consequences I bet.

My understanding is the boy has special needs so can consequences be given? What consequence could be given to a six or seven year old?

Your understanding is wrong, as usual.

Ha, as usual? Do you think only one person posts here?

PP, if the student has an IEP, and there are goals for the behaviors you described, the school is limited in what consequences can be given, especially if it’s a result of the student’s disability. The school is tasked with determining the cause of the behavior and providing interventions to address the triggers of the behavior, and those should not be punitive.

Surely you don’t think such an asinine gig can last forever, do you?

None of this garbage is based on evidence.

Stop trolling- this is an important issue. If you have nothing meaningful to contribute, move along! Maybe get out of your mommy’s basement and get some sun.