How is UVA overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re doing a pre professional program. UVA wins hands down . Law , medicine business there graduate schools are second to none. When it comes to stem other public ivys gain better traction

Their graduate programs are behind a lot of other schools, but are still decent for a public university.

What are you talking about? UVA law is currently ranked #4, ahead of Harvard, Penn, Columbia. UVA business is consistently top 10.

To both PPs - this is mainly a discussion about undergrad. Post grad programs are not relevant.

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UVA has all the problems of a large public university which are significant and impact virtually all of the top publics.

The main advantage of UVA is in-state tuition.

Compared to peer institutions, like Univ of Florida, UVA remains competitive.

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Anonymous wrote:it is overrated for 2 reasons:

1) STEM staff and curriculum is like any other T50-100 school

2) Outcomes - lack of fortune 500 companies in and around DMV makes hiring very hard.

No idea what you are talking about on 2. UVA is on every list of banking and consulting placement, plus placement at top law schools, med schools, etc.

I hear Capitol One is a main recruiter there. How impressive.

CapOne has 12,500 employees in Tysons and 12,500 in Richmond. Of course it is going to recruit heavily from the nearby Flagship. I don’t see why that’s a ding.

I believe it is the #1 employer for UVA, W&M, VT, JMU . . .

Certainly top 3 for VT (usually rotates between CapOne, Boeing, and Lockheed due to engineering college). WM is harder to find top employers because it just lists “employers who hired 4 or more graduates,” but CapOne is one of those.

CapOne not top 10 for JMU: https://www.jmu.edu/career/careeroutcomes/_files/2023/class_of_2023_report_final.pdf

You can get employer data from LinkedIn by looking at the college or university. It can list top employers.

On LinkedIn, Capital One is the #1 external employer (where they work) of alumni for UVA, VT, and JMU. It is #2 for W&M just behind Deloitte.

I’m going to go out on a limb here and say this shows the state’s largest private employer is also the largest employer of in-state college grads.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has all the problems of a large public university which are significant and impact virtually all of the top publics.

The main advantage of UVA is in-state tuition.

Compared to peer institutions, like Univ of Florida, UVA remains competitive.

I would take a top public over a middling private any day of the week. The “problems” are vastly overstated, especially around here.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has all the problems of a large public university which are significant and impact virtually all of the top publics.

The main advantage of UVA is in-state tuition.

Compared to peer institutions, like Univ of Florida, UVA remains competitive.

I would take a top public over a middling private any day of the week. The “problems” are vastly overstated, especially around here.

Oversized classes, difficulty enrolling in classes, large lecture learning formats and reliance on TAs. It is just limited resources that include advising and everything else.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has all the problems of a large public university which are significant and impact virtually all of the top publics.

The main advantage of UVA is in-state tuition.

Compared to peer institutions, like Univ of Florida, UVA remains competitive.

I would take a top public over a middling private any day of the week. The “problems” are vastly overstated, especially around here.

Oversized classes, difficulty enrolling in classes, large lecture learning formats and reliance on TAs. It is just limited resources that include advising and everything else.

You're right. Self reliance is a must. No hand holding.

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Anonymous wrote:Cheating

We know honest kids who go there, but we also know of a good number of kids who cheated their way through high school that are also going there. But, that's probably b/c we are in Nova.

I think this is the key to UVA's "overrating." Northern Virginia.
Northern Virginia likes to think UVA is a bargain Yale or Harvard or Princeton or Brown. UVA is an excellent school, but it's very competitive particularly for northern Virginia students. So it evokes the impression of being more elite and prestigious in this geographical area than it warrants. I'm sure if you ask people in California to name the top public universities in the country, UVA would not come to mind.

I’m actually fairly sure they would, because UVA has been a top public for decades. I’m always amazed when people don’t realize this (and that’s coming from someone who didn’t go there, doesn’t have kids there, and only moved to Virginia in the last five years).

Some Californians known UVA is a top school but many don't. More interest in Michigan and Texas Austin than UVA because STEM.

Outside the DMV, most people consider UVA on par with U of Florida. It doesn’t register along with Michigan, UCLA, UCSD, Berkeley, or even UT Austin. It is just pretty average.

I don't think UCSD registers with most people on the east coast.

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It is all a personal preference.....we went to Days on the Lawn recently and were blown away. Beautiful, charming college town with wonderful, top-notch academic offerings with plenty of social opportunities to balance it all out.

All of you UVA haters, why don't you spend your time a little more productively. Not really sure what you're trying to accomplish here but it's just a waste of your time.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has all the problems of a large public university which are significant and impact virtually all of the top publics.

The main advantage of UVA is in-state tuition.

Compared to peer institutions, like Univ of Florida, UVA remains competitive.

I would take a top public over a middling private any day of the week. The “problems” are vastly overstated, especially around here.

Oversized classes, difficulty enrolling in classes, large lecture learning formats and reliance on TAs. It is just limited resources that include advising and everything else.

You're right. Self reliance is a must. No hand holding.

It’s more than just no hand holding. It is a lower quality education with less career advising and supports.

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UVA is a well-respected P4 state school like Wisconsin, Ohio State, Illinois and Florida. No one has heard of UCSD or else confuse it with the Jesuit school USD. No comparison.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has all the problems of a large public university which are significant and impact virtually all of the top publics.

The main advantage of UVA is in-state tuition.

Compared to peer institutions, like Univ of Florida, UVA remains competitive.

I would take a top public over a middling private any day of the week. The “problems” are vastly overstated, especially around here.

Oversized classes, difficulty enrolling in classes, large lecture learning formats and reliance on TAs. It is just limited resources that include advising and everything else.

You're right. Self reliance is a must. No hand holding.

It’s more than just no hand holding. It is a lower quality education with less career advising and supports.

How so?

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has all the problems of a large public university which are significant and impact virtually all of the top publics.

The main advantage of UVA is in-state tuition.

Compared to peer institutions, like Univ of Florida, UVA remains competitive.

I would take a top public over a middling private any day of the week. The “problems” are vastly overstated, especially around here.

Oversized classes, difficulty enrolling in classes, large lecture learning formats and reliance on TAs. It is just limited resources that include advising and everything else.

You're right. Self reliance is a must. No hand holding.

It’s more than just no hand holding. It is a lower quality education with less career advising and supports.

How so?

Fewer graded assignments, less direct discussion with the professor, less high-quality class time, like small group discussions with the professor, instead of large lectures and TAs, difficulty getting to know the professors and getting letters of rec. The classes are just overall lower quality.

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Are you a current UVA student?

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has all the problems of a large public university which are significant and impact virtually all of the top publics.

The main advantage of UVA is in-state tuition.

Compared to peer institutions, like Univ of Florida, UVA remains competitive.

I would take a top public over a middling private any day of the week. The “problems” are vastly overstated, especially around here.

Oversized classes, difficulty enrolling in classes, large lecture learning formats and reliance on TAs. It is just limited resources that include advising and everything else.

You're right. Self reliance is a must. No hand holding.

It’s more than just no hand holding. It is a lower quality education with less career advising and supports.

How so?

Fewer graded assignments, less direct discussion with the professor, less high-quality class time, like small group discussions with the professor, instead of large lectures and TAs, difficulty getting to know the professors and getting letters of rec. The classes are just overall lower quality.

I'm surprised by this. I would think that as students move along in majors that classes would be smaller with more professor interaction? Most public schools seems to have this model generally, unless an honors program?

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Anonymous wrote:It is all a personal preference.....we went to Days on the Lawn recently and were blown away. Beautiful, charming college town with wonderful, top-notch academic offerings with plenty of social opportunities to balance it all out.

All of you UVA haters, why don't you spend your time a little more productively. Not really sure what you're trying to accomplish here but it's just a waste of your time.

Congrats to your student! Our family fell in love with it after DOTL last year and DD is a very happy, very involved first year student there now.