Basic Hygiene and Grooming for Social Presentation 101

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I smell you

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of these have nothing to do with hygiene, for example getting regular haircuts. I dont like cutting my hair every 6 weeks, and I was blessed with straight hair that doesn't take a ton of styling. I wash it every other day or so and it's sparkling clean, and I make sure to cut it every few months so there arent a ton of split ends, but, again, not really a hygiene issue even if I went longer without a haircut. You seem like an overly retentive, controlling person.

The topic is Hygiene and Grooming. Hair maintenance definitely is part of grooming.

You’re such a colossal ass-ache, my darling.

But my clothes are wrinkle free, dear.

This is your flex?

Her grooming is what stands in for and she thinks, wrongly, suffices, for her failure to be aesthetically pleasing or having a good personality, so.

Unlike many of you, I am simultaneously beautiful, well-groomed, well-dressed and congenial.

Good one Op.

The next time I evaluate my direct reports, I'll add a new category related to pore size. My cyber security team better be on top of the best facial products.

I would focus on making sure their clothing is neat and wrinkle free instead of pore size. Tech employees are notorious for having a disheveled appearance and poor social skills.

You know nothing. None of these people look disheveled and you should be embarrassed by your ignorant stereotypes.

I know we'd never get the truth, but I'd love to know your work history. Also because of your obsession with skin moisturization, I assume you're black. Putting down other dark skinned people for having "ashy" skin is the height of stupidity.

Whoa! Lots of assumptions are being made about me. I have not posted any comments about skin moisturization, but I am a fan of moisturized skin. Dry, “ashy” skin is not exclusive to dark skinned people. There are plenty of Caucasian men walking around with horrifically dry, ashy elbows. A 10% urea cream used daily will solve the problem.

Only a weirdo cares about someone else's "ashy" elbows.

I’ve honestly never noticed anyone’s elbows, ashy or moisturized. Not even my own husband’s.

[Anonymous]

I agree w/all of these OP.

Everyone can make themselves appear presentable + polished no matter how they look.

I especially agree that everyone should shower at least once a day.

And keeping eyebrows/teeth/nails properly cleaned and groomed is very important!

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of these have nothing to do with hygiene, for example getting regular haircuts. I dont like cutting my hair every 6 weeks, and I was blessed with straight hair that doesn't take a ton of styling. I wash it every other day or so and it's sparkling clean, and I make sure to cut it every few months so there arent a ton of split ends, but, again, not really a hygiene issue even if I went longer without a haircut. You seem like an overly retentive, controlling person.

The topic is Hygiene and Grooming. Hair maintenance definitely is part of grooming.

You’re such a colossal ass-ache, my darling.

But my clothes are wrinkle free, dear.

This is your flex?

Her grooming is what stands in for and she thinks, wrongly, suffices, for her failure to be aesthetically pleasing or having a good personality, so.

Unlike many of you, I am simultaneously beautiful, well-groomed, well-dressed and congenial.

Good one Op.

The next time I evaluate my direct reports, I'll add a new category related to pore size. My cyber security team better be on top of the best facial products.

I would focus on making sure their clothing is neat and wrinkle free instead of pore size. Tech employees are notorious for having a disheveled appearance and poor social skills.

You know nothing. None of these people look disheveled and you should be embarrassed by your ignorant stereotypes.

I know we'd never get the truth, but I'd love to know your work history. Also because of your obsession with skin moisturization, I assume you're black. Putting down other dark skinned people for having "ashy" skin is the height of stupidity.

Whoa! Lots of assumptions are being made about me. I have not posted any comments about skin moisturization, but I am a fan of moisturized skin. Dry, “ashy” skin is not exclusive to dark skinned people. There are plenty of Caucasian men walking around with horrifically dry, ashy elbows. A 10% urea cream used daily will solve the problem.

Only a weirdo cares about someone else's "ashy" elbows.

I’ve honestly never noticed anyone’s elbows, ashy or moisturized. Not even my own husband’s.

There is an employee at my company who always has ashy, crusty elbows. I notice it whenever he walks past me. And I ask myself, “why doesn’t his wife tell him to moisturize his skin”. Clearly she doesn’t notice it either.

There are layers of dead skin cells there that need to be sloughed off. Caucasian skin needs moisture and exfoliation just like everyone else’s. A body lotion with 10% urea or AHAs will remove those layers of dead skin and moisturize the living cells.

[Anonymous]

I remember the comedian Bill Burr had a bit about learning to use lotion from his Black wife. Is not using lotion a cultural norm for white men?

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of these have nothing to do with hygiene, for example getting regular haircuts. I dont like cutting my hair every 6 weeks, and I was blessed with straight hair that doesn't take a ton of styling. I wash it every other day or so and it's sparkling clean, and I make sure to cut it every few months so there arent a ton of split ends, but, again, not really a hygiene issue even if I went longer without a haircut. You seem like an overly retentive, controlling person.

The topic is Hygiene and Grooming. Hair maintenance definitely is part of grooming.

You’re such a colossal ass-ache, my darling.

But my clothes are wrinkle free, dear.

This is your flex?

Her grooming is what stands in for and she thinks, wrongly, suffices, for her failure to be aesthetically pleasing or having a good personality, so.

Unlike many of you, I am simultaneously beautiful, well-groomed, well-dressed and congenial.

Good one Op.

The next time I evaluate my direct reports, I'll add a new category related to pore size. My cyber security team better be on top of the best facial products.

I would focus on making sure their clothing is neat and wrinkle free instead of pore size. Tech employees are notorious for having a disheveled appearance and poor social skills.

You know nothing. None of these people look disheveled and you should be embarrassed by your ignorant stereotypes.

I know we'd never get the truth, but I'd love to know your work history. Also because of your obsession with skin moisturization, I assume you're black. Putting down other dark skinned people for having "ashy" skin is the height of stupidity.

Whoa! Lots of assumptions are being made about me. I have not posted any comments about skin moisturization, but I am a fan of moisturized skin. Dry, “ashy” skin is not exclusive to dark skinned people. There are plenty of Caucasian men walking around with horrifically dry, ashy elbows. A 10% urea cream used daily will solve the problem.

Only a weirdo cares about someone else's "ashy" elbows.

I’ve honestly never noticed anyone’s elbows, ashy or moisturized. Not even my own husband’s.

There is an employee at my company who always has ashy, crusty elbows. I notice it whenever he walks past me. And I ask myself, “why doesn’t his wife tell him to moisturize his skin”. Clearly she doesn’t notice it either.

There are layers of dead skin cells there that need to be sloughed off. Caucasian skin needs moisture and exfoliation just like everyone else’s. A body lotion with 10% urea or AHAs will remove those layers of dead skin and moisturize the living cells.

A washcloth will also do the trick

[Anonymous]

That is true. However, I notice a lot more of the dead skin cells appear in a white washcloth when I moisturize daily with a urea or AHA body lotion. And before anyone asks how I can tell, it’s easy to see this when you have melanin in your skin. I can see the dead cells in the towel. And I can see my farmers tan disappearing as my skin tone evens out to my normal shade.

[Anonymous]

https://www.gq.com/story/white-guys-get-ashy-too

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7. Clean clothing. Wear clean and pressed clothing that fit you well!

You seem to be missing a great many things, like "empathy" and "tact" and the ability to mind your own business, but there is one aspect of your lack to which I'm particularly qualified to speak.

Most modern consumer textiles do NOT get "pressed". I'll spare you the lengthy lecture on how people's aversion to ironing ruined texiles and the planet near-simultaneously. To sum up: the vast majority of your clothing is made from chemically-treated, highly processed fibers, and/or plastics and plastic blends. This was designed to eliminate the need for ironing (and lower expense). So unless you're wearing costly outfits, your day-to-day attire shouldn't require an iron, and may in fact be harmed by the use of one. If you have the money to buy those sorts of clothes for everyday wear, you probably have someone else taking care of their maintenance (which will be considerable; that's the whole reason we started this little game).

You're also going to have to learn some leniency when it comes to the "that fit you well" bit. Again, unless you have a bespoke wardrobe or a personal tailor, or know how to fit and sew, your off-rack clothing will probably fit you "well enough". Culturally, we seem to have decided that's alright. Most people don't have the first clue about what their clothes are made of, let alone how they're cut or finished. The idea of fast fashion and a lack of sewing skills basically ruined clothing decades ago, and it's getting worse, not better. If you notice it, you're the exception (or you work in the industry).

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7. Clean clothing. Wear clean and pressed clothing that fit you well!

You seem to be missing a great many things, like "empathy" and "tact" and the ability to mind your own business, but there is one aspect of your lack to which I'm particularly qualified to speak.

Most modern consumer textiles do NOT get "pressed". I'll spare you the lengthy lecture on how people's aversion to ironing ruined texiles and the planet near-simultaneously. To sum up: the vast majority of your clothing is made from chemically-treated, highly processed fibers, and/or plastics and plastic blends. This was designed to eliminate the need for ironing (and lower expense). So unless you're wearing costly outfits, your day-to-day attire shouldn't require an iron, and may in fact be harmed by the use of one. If you have the money to buy those sorts of clothes for everyday wear, you probably have someone else taking care of their maintenance (which will be considerable; that's the whole reason we started this little game).

You're also going to have to learn some leniency when it comes to the "that fit you well" bit. Again, unless you have a bespoke wardrobe or a personal tailor, or know how to fit and sew, your off-rack clothing will probably fit you "well enough". Culturally, we seem to have decided that's alright. Most people don't have the first clue about what their clothes are made of, let alone how they're cut or finished. The idea of fast fashion and a lack of sewing skills basically ruined clothing decades ago, and it's getting worse, not better. If you notice it, you're the exception (or you work in the industry).

That is very interesting. Empathy and tact seem to only be necessary when critiquing a specific demographic on this board. Empathy and tact are not required when critiquing other groups (eg. the ghetto demographic that buys Coach Factory Outlet handbags, southerners, midwesterners, etc). No one is above critique, and no one here gets a pass. If you’re parading around in public wearing wrinkled clothes, have foul body odor, only shower once or twice a week, haven’t established a skin care routine, have discolored teeth, etc, you are being criticized in this thread.

As for the nonsense mentioned about modern fabrics not needing to be ironed, I disagree. I have purchased clothing items at every price point. Nothing in my wardrobe has ever been damaged by the iron. Not 1 item in 35+ years. Delicate fabrics are steamed instead of ironed. And virtually all of my professional clothing gets tailored. I have broad shoulders and a small bust, so structured tops need to be altered to fit my body perfectly. Alterations and tailoring should not be cost prohibitive to all of the high net worth executives that seem to post on this board.

I see nothing cruel, tactless, or I empathetic about the original post. If some of the comments offend you, it’s because they apply to you. Take the negative feedback and use it to improve, like you do in the workplace.

[Anonymous]

*unempathetic*

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“ the ghetto demographic that buys Coach Factory Outlet handbags”

😩

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No, I am not going to whiten my teeth for your benefit, OP. The dentist told me I had a genetic predisposition to discoloration. My kids have inherited the same issue. We floss and brush thoroughly.

Stop it. You're insane.

You, I love.

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Just don't go around with a horrid round orange face.

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7. Clean clothing. Wear clean and pressed clothing that fit you well!

You seem to be missing a great many things, like "empathy" and "tact" and the ability to mind your own business, but there is one aspect of your lack to which I'm particularly qualified to speak.

Most modern consumer textiles do NOT get "pressed". I'll spare you the lengthy lecture on how people's aversion to ironing ruined texiles and the planet near-simultaneously. To sum up: the vast majority of your clothing is made from chemically-treated, highly processed fibers, and/or plastics and plastic blends. This was designed to eliminate the need for ironing (and lower expense). So unless you're wearing costly outfits, your day-to-day attire shouldn't require an iron, and may in fact be harmed by the use of one. If you have the money to buy those sorts of clothes for everyday wear, you probably have someone else taking care of their maintenance (which will be considerable; that's the whole reason we started this little game).

You're also going to have to learn some leniency when it comes to the "that fit you well" bit. Again, unless you have a bespoke wardrobe or a personal tailor, or know how to fit and sew, your off-rack clothing will probably fit you "well enough". Culturally, we seem to have decided that's alright. Most people don't have the first clue about what their clothes are made of, let alone how they're cut or finished. The idea of fast fashion and a lack of sewing skills basically ruined clothing decades ago, and it's getting worse, not better. If you notice it, you're the exception (or you work in the industry).

That is very interesting. Empathy and tact seem to only be necessary when critiquing a specific demographic on this board. Empathy and tact are not required when critiquing other groups (eg. the ghetto demographic that buys Coach Factory Outlet handbags, southerners, midwesterners, etc). No one is above critique, and no one here gets a pass. If you’re parading around in public wearing wrinkled clothes, have foul body odor, only shower once or twice a week, haven’t established a skin care routine, have discolored teeth, etc, you are being criticized in this thread.

As for the nonsense mentioned about modern fabrics not needing to be ironed, I disagree. I have purchased clothing items at every price point. Nothing in my wardrobe has ever been damaged by the iron. Not 1 item in 35+ years. Delicate fabrics are steamed instead of ironed. And virtually all of my professional clothing gets tailored. I have broad shoulders and a small bust, so structured tops need to be altered to fit my body perfectly. Alterations and tailoring should not be cost prohibitive to all of the high net worth executives that seem to post on this board.

I see nothing cruel, tactless, or I empathetic about the original post. If some of the comments offend you, it’s because they apply to you. Take the negative feedback and use it to improve, like you do in the workplace.

Rumpled executives get zero leniency. They can afford high quality clothing and tailoring. They can also afford to outsource the pressing of their clothes.