Yondr pouch pilot program at some MS

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Anonymous wrote:The other issue is sometimes I send a text at dismissal time switching my kid’s transportation mode and now my kid won’t see it in time. In the past when I’ve called the office they don’t deliver these types of messages.

Yes he would. As a teacher I imagine they build in a 15/20ish “advisory” block at the end of the day before dismissal to stagger pouch retrieval by floor/hall/zone. And before anyone whines about missed instructional time, we lose way more to phones when kids have them in class. It would be a net win.

Get real. They aren’t going to be doing this. Their advisory block is always the second period of one of the days anyway, not at the end of the day like it would make sense. They aren’t going to let kids out 20 min before dismissal to go unlock their pouch- and then have hordes of kids roaming around the hallways.

It’s hysterical to me that this board complains so much about FCPS never improves blah blah worst schools ever and then they attempt ANYTHING and you guys gripe endlessly about how it can’t / won’t work.

Parents stomping feet about this, you are as embarrassing as your kids are when they’re losing their mind over having to put their precious phone away while all their peers stare at them like “just do it, it’s not that serious.”

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Anonymous wrote:Praying Chantilly HS is not one of the ones who volunteered. My kid will not be putting their phone in this stupid pouch.

Maybe you guys need to put yours in a pouch too. You and your kids would realize you could easily survive 9-4 without texting eachother.

My reasons for not wanting the pouch have nothing to do with texting during the day. I do not like the idea of over 3,000 kids scrambling to unlock their pouch before boarding the buses. I think that’s unsafe and will cause kids to miss their buses.

Yeah they surely won’t hold the buses the first couple days to account for this or figure out how to stagger pouch retrieval for the school to keep things orderly. No way. Might as well not even try anything!!

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get a grip complainers!

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Anonymous wrote:Here's an idea. Buy a few yondr pouches for each school. Kid is caught using their phone during the school day, it goes in the yondr pouch for the rest of the day. Kid is caught using it a second time, goes in the pouch every day for a month. Third time, yondr pouch for the rest of the year. This should satisfy the "what about a school shooter" objectors. Teach your kid if they want the privilege of using their phone during a school shooter, never get caught using it before then. It would also give kid one "free" use of their phone because pouch for a day no big deal--but better save up that one free use for when you really need it.

This would require common sense, clearly the district has zero common sense.

Guys it’s a PILOT. That’s what they’re trying to figure out - how to do it best countywide. They didn’t already buy 215,000 pouches

If they were ACTUALLY interested in figuring out the best way they’d be collecting data on phone usage for at least a few months with no intervention, with current (last school years) intervention, and they’d have different phases of novel intervention across different schools trying different methods- not just a pouch. They would stagger interventions within and across schools. Then they’d actually look at what works and what doesn’t work and choose based on the data.

This is just a slow roll out for Yondr.

Probably to line someone’s pockets.

They already have that information from the last school year.

SMH

I’m waiting to see it posted on the website.

Keep waiting, FCPS is not required to share every bit of data they have with you or the community.

I don’t think they have any data to share at this point since this seems to be in response to the governor’s cell phone free policy. But if they’re going to give a big contract to Yondr to roll this out at every MS and HS, I definitely want to see some data. They’re always giving big contracts and spending money with big corporations. Yes the phones are a problem but so is the over-reliance on tech/laptops/etc. in general and you don’t see anyone pushing back on that.

Exactly! You know what would be better and cheaper? Cell phone charging stations for the classroom. You can make these for under $50 plus the cost of charging cords. Nothing to take home, nothing to get lost, nothing to forget, no knives out in class trying to pry open a pouch. Plus it incentivizes the kids to use it, what kid says no to charging their phone. If they had said in school 1 we’re trying classroom charging stations. In school 2 we’re trying Yondr pouches for all, in school 3 we’re allowing free phone access, in school 4 we’re making kids turn their phones into the office if we see them out in a classroom, in school 5 we’re not allowing phones at all in the school but installing several in school student use phones that will be on between classes only and several outside for before and after school use. in school 6 we’re using Yondr pouches only if you are caught using your phone in class, in school 7 we’re using cell phone lockers. You get the point… trying to see what actually WORKS, not just implementing one thing with no data to back it up. Especially when that money is going to a big company. Why not make it a school project for each school to find the most effective way to minimize phone use. Have the kids take data. That would be interesting and educational.

We tried this in maybe 2017. Used to kind of work but they’d still go back there to check notifs and pull it off the charger as soon as it had a 20-% charge because they wanted it back. This solution doesn’t work in 2024. The phone problem has gotten way, way too bad for little stopgap tricks like that.

You tried all those suggestions? Or just 1 and opted for an expensive pouch because- why?

Because nothing else works! They don’t want to put it in their backpack, shoe rack, they won’t keep it on a charger all class knowing next class there’s another charger they can use. They take the damn things out in SOL testing now and it happens so often we can’t even file the discrepancy report we used to, we just have to lecture them AGAIN. The amount of time, mental energy, creativity we have wasted on the damn phones is unreal and you think CHARGERS are a genius new idea we never thought of.

But how is out in a pouch going to change environment? The same kids that weren’t using phones will still not use phones and the kids that defied prior don’t use rules will still defy- by not putting in pouch or breaking pouch so phone can go in or out or buying fishing magnet (pouches costs $18 and magnets even less so cheap workaround)

Is not. If they’d just fix the disciplinary system and they wouldn’t need to cover it up with expensive pouches. This just makes it appear as though they’re doing something, but nothing will change and will actually make it worse.

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This is so stupid! This is being rolled out at my school! I will not participate! I will just leave my phone at home! Ha! They cant make me put it some stupid pouch then!

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Anonymous wrote:This is so stupid! This is being rolled out at my school! I will not participate! I will just leave my phone at home! Ha! They cant make me put it some stupid pouch then!

Don’t take a pouch! And buy a neodymium fishing magnet. You can make a fortune charging people to open their pouch.

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Anonymous wrote:This is so stupid! This is being rolled out at my school! I will not participate! I will just leave my phone at home! Ha! They cant make me put it some stupid pouch then!

Don’t take a pouch! And buy a neodymium fishing magnet. You can make a fortune charging people to open their pouch.

I think they cost about $3 on Amazon. I am sure every kid will have one by week one.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's an idea. Buy a few yondr pouches for each school. Kid is caught using their phone during the school day, it goes in the yondr pouch for the rest of the day. Kid is caught using it a second time, goes in the pouch every day for a month. Third time, yondr pouch for the rest of the year. This should satisfy the "what about a school shooter" objectors. Teach your kid if they want the privilege of using their phone during a school shooter, never get caught using it before then. It would also give kid one "free" use of their phone because pouch for a day no big deal--but better save up that one free use for when you really need it.

This would require common sense, clearly the district has zero common sense.

Guys it’s a PILOT. That’s what they’re trying to figure out - how to do it best countywide. They didn’t already buy 215,000 pouches

If they were ACTUALLY interested in figuring out the best way they’d be collecting data on phone usage for at least a few months with no intervention, with current (last school years) intervention, and they’d have different phases of novel intervention across different schools trying different methods- not just a pouch. They would stagger interventions within and across schools. Then they’d actually look at what works and what doesn’t work and choose based on the data.

This is just a slow roll out for Yondr.

Probably to line someone’s pockets.

They already have that information from the last school year.

SMH

I’m waiting to see it posted on the website.

Keep waiting, FCPS is not required to share every bit of data they have with you or the community.

I don’t think they have any data to share at this point since this seems to be in response to the governor’s cell phone free policy. But if they’re going to give a big contract to Yondr to roll this out at every MS and HS, I definitely want to see some data. They’re always giving big contracts and spending money with big corporations. Yes the phones are a problem but so is the over-reliance on tech/laptops/etc. in general and you don’t see anyone pushing back on that.

Exactly! You know what would be better and cheaper? Cell phone charging stations for the classroom. You can make these for under $50 plus the cost of charging cords. Nothing to take home, nothing to get lost, nothing to forget, no knives out in class trying to pry open a pouch. Plus it incentivizes the kids to use it, what kid says no to charging their phone. If they had said in school 1 we’re trying classroom charging stations. In school 2 we’re trying Yondr pouches for all, in school 3 we’re allowing free phone access, in school 4 we’re making kids turn their phones into the office if we see them out in a classroom, in school 5 we’re not allowing phones at all in the school but installing several in school student use phones that will be on between classes only and several outside for before and after school use. in school 6 we’re using Yondr pouches only if you are caught using your phone in class, in school 7 we’re using cell phone lockers. You get the point… trying to see what actually WORKS, not just implementing one thing with no data to back it up. Especially when that money is going to a big company. Why not make it a school project for each school to find the most effective way to minimize phone use. Have the kids take data. That would be interesting and educational.

We tried this in maybe 2017. Used to kind of work but they’d still go back there to check notifs and pull it off the charger as soon as it had a 20-% charge because they wanted it back. This solution doesn’t work in 2024. The phone problem has gotten way, way too bad for little stopgap tricks like that.

You tried all those suggestions? Or just 1 and opted for an expensive pouch because- why?

Because nothing else works! They don’t want to put it in their backpack, shoe rack, they won’t keep it on a charger all class knowing next class there’s another charger they can use. They take the damn things out in SOL testing now and it happens so often we can’t even file the discrepancy report we used to, we just have to lecture them AGAIN. The amount of time, mental energy, creativity we have wasted on the damn phones is unreal and you think CHARGERS are a genius new idea we never thought of.

But how is out in a pouch going to change environment? The same kids that weren’t using phones will still not use phones and the kids that defied prior don’t use rules will still defy- by not putting in pouch or breaking pouch so phone can go in or out or buying fishing magnet (pouches costs $18 and magnets even less so cheap workaround)

Is not. If they’d just fix the disciplinary system and they wouldn’t need to cover it up with expensive pouches. This just makes it appear as though they’re doing something, but nothing will change and will actually make it worse.

The parents on this thread do NOT want that to happen because if you could get detention or iss or suspension for having a phone in class, it’s clear most of the kids of parents posting “‘MY KID WONT POUCH” here would suffer.

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DON’T TAKE THE POUCH KIDS, IT’S A TRAP!!

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Great now all the kids are going to carry around a strong fishing magnet which will no doubt damage phones. Magnets and electronics don’t mix.

My kid doesn’t need a pouch bc he has the self control to not use his phone in class. He stores his phone in his backpack and it’s away for the day. Schools need to enforce their phones away for the day policy instead of distributing commie style pouches. They are too afraid to discipline now.

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Anonymous wrote:Great now all the kids are going to carry around a strong fishing magnet which will no doubt damage phones. Magnets and electronics don’t mix.

My kid doesn’t need a pouch bc he has the self control to not use his phone in class. He stores his phone in his backpack and it’s away for the day. Schools need to enforce their phones away for the day policy instead of distributing commie style pouches. They are too afraid to discipline now.

The only thing it might affect on a modern cell phone is the compass, and that’s fixable. It can hurt the screen if you put it between 2 very strong magnetic fields, so don’t send your kids to school with more than 1 magnet and you’ll be good. Just keep it away from the credit cards.

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I’m buying these.

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I’m buying these.

LOL

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Anonymous wrote:Here's an idea. Buy a few yondr pouches for each school. Kid is caught using their phone during the school day, it goes in the yondr pouch for the rest of the day. Kid is caught using it a second time, goes in the pouch every day for a month. Third time, yondr pouch for the rest of the year. This should satisfy the "what about a school shooter" objectors. Teach your kid if they want the privilege of using their phone during a school shooter, never get caught using it before then. It would also give kid one "free" use of their phone because pouch for a day no big deal--but better save up that one free use for when you really need it.

This would require common sense, clearly the district has zero common sense.

Guys it’s a PILOT. That’s what they’re trying to figure out - how to do it best countywide. They didn’t already buy 215,000 pouches

If they were ACTUALLY interested in figuring out the best way they’d be collecting data on phone usage for at least a few months with no intervention, with current (last school years) intervention, and they’d have different phases of novel intervention across different schools trying different methods- not just a pouch. They would stagger interventions within and across schools. Then they’d actually look at what works and what doesn’t work and choose based on the data.

This is just a slow roll out for Yondr.

Probably to line someone’s pockets.

They already have that information from the last school year.

SMH

I’m waiting to see it posted on the website.

Keep waiting, FCPS is not required to share every bit of data they have with you or the community.

DP. They 100% are if they are forcing some communist style seizure methods on our children. As it stands there is ZERO justification for this and WE AREN’T DOING IT! My kids will NOT be accepting a commie pouch.

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I thought the governor is outlawing phones in schools- no?

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Anonymous wrote:Here's an idea. Buy a few yondr pouches for each school. Kid is caught using their phone during the school day, it goes in the yondr pouch for the rest of the day. Kid is caught using it a second time, goes in the pouch every day for a month. Third time, yondr pouch for the rest of the year. This should satisfy the "what about a school shooter" objectors. Teach your kid if they want the privilege of using their phone during a school shooter, never get caught using it before then. It would also give kid one "free" use of their phone because pouch for a day no big deal--but better save up that one free use for when you really need it.

This would require common sense, clearly the district has zero common sense.

Guys it’s a PILOT. That’s what they’re trying to figure out - how to do it best countywide. They didn’t already buy 215,000 pouches

If they were ACTUALLY interested in figuring out the best way they’d be collecting data on phone usage for at least a few months with no intervention, with current (last school years) intervention, and they’d have different phases of novel intervention across different schools trying different methods- not just a pouch. They would stagger interventions within and across schools. Then they’d actually look at what works and what doesn’t work and choose based on the data.

This is just a slow roll out for Yondr.

Probably to line someone’s pockets.

They already have that information from the last school year.

SMH

I’m waiting to see it posted on the website.

Keep waiting, FCPS is not required to share every bit of data they have with you or the community.

DP. They 100% are if they are forcing some communist style seizure methods on our children. As it stands there is ZERO justification for this and WE AREN’T DOING IT! My kids will NOT be accepting a commie pouch.

+100

I thought the governor is outlawing phones in schools- no?

The governor issued a mandate this summer that all Virginia schools need to develop plans to be cell phone free this school year. DCUM parents believe this does not / should not apply to them.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's an idea. Buy a few yondr pouches for each school. Kid is caught using their phone during the school day, it goes in the yondr pouch for the rest of the day. Kid is caught using it a second time, goes in the pouch every day for a month. Third time, yondr pouch for the rest of the year. This should satisfy the "what about a school shooter" objectors. Teach your kid if they want the privilege of using their phone during a school shooter, never get caught using it before then. It would also give kid one "free" use of their phone because pouch for a day no big deal--but better save up that one free use for when you really need it.

This would require common sense, clearly the district has zero common sense.

Guys it’s a PILOT. That’s what they’re trying to figure out - how to do it best countywide. They didn’t already buy 215,000 pouches

If they were ACTUALLY interested in figuring out the best way they’d be collecting data on phone usage for at least a few months with no intervention, with current (last school years) intervention, and they’d have different phases of novel intervention across different schools trying different methods- not just a pouch. They would stagger interventions within and across schools. Then they’d actually look at what works and what doesn’t work and choose based on the data.

This is just a slow roll out for Yondr.

Probably to line someone’s pockets.

They already have that information from the last school year.

SMH

I’m waiting to see it posted on the website.

Keep waiting, FCPS is not required to share every bit of data they have with you or the community.

DP. They 100% are if they are forcing some communist style seizure methods on our children. As it stands there is ZERO justification for this and WE AREN’T DOING IT! My kids will NOT be accepting a commie pouch.

+100

I thought the governor is outlawing phones in schools- no?

The governor issued a mandate this summer that all Virginia schools need to develop plans to be cell phone free this school year. DCUM parents believe this does not / should not apply to them.

DCUM thinks FCPS should invest the time and energy into finding a way that works before giving away tax payers dollars to a pouch company just to cover up the fact that their disciplinary standards are non-existent.

This draconian approach isn’t going to go over well for most. Pouch Punishment should be reserved for those children that can’t follow the rules.