Locals squirt tourists w/ water guns: Barcelona mass tourism protests

[Anonymous]

Barcelona is not worth a visit. Between the pickpockets, panhandlers and nasty locals, you're better off anywhere else Spain. Just spend a day to see the Gaudi stuff and be out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Modern day tourism is awful. You just have mass hordes flocking to a place for selfie photos because they saw nice pictures online. They often partake very little in the local culture, learn absolutely zero at museums because all they're doing the whole time is taking selfies, and world sites are treated like playgrounds for millions.

So when others go, they are philistines, but when YOU go, with your camera-less learned academic endeavors and erudite strolling encyclopedia you are a vast improvement to the cityscape?

Got it.

NP. You refuse to believe those who experienced past tourism and can compare it to the current overcrowded situation.

Go now if you want with little Timmy, but we just feel sorry that you are experiencing these places in such an unpleasant environment, and feel extremely lucky we got to go when it was more pleasant.

I feel the same way about music of the 1980s - we were a lucky generation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Modern day tourism is awful. You just have mass hordes flocking to a place for selfie photos because they saw nice pictures online. They often partake very little in the local culture, learn absolutely zero at museums because all they're doing the whole time is taking selfies, and world sites are treated like playgrounds for millions.

So when others go, they are philistines, but when YOU go, with your camera-less learned academic endeavors and erudite strolling encyclopedia you are a vast improvement to the cityscape?

Got it.

NP. You refuse to believe those who experienced past tourism and can compare it to the current overcrowded situation.

Go now if you want with little Timmy, but we just feel sorry that you are experiencing these places in such an unpleasant environment, and feel extremely lucky we got to go when it was more pleasant.

You are still missing the point. I can't believe this has to be explained again.

None of you is saying "We should all stay away for the betterment of the locals and the tourists who have not been there before"

Instead you are saying "The new people ruined it for us! They poors and wal mart employees! They should stay at disney as intended!"

I feel the same way about music of the 1980s - we were a lucky generation.

Whaa? The era of Rick Astley, NKOTB, and Tiffany? "We Built This City", "The Final Countdown", and "Groovy Kind Of Love"? Linn drums, DX7s, and too much reverb? Hair Metal, Boy Bands, and movie soundtracks?

While we did get the birth of hip hop and a few good indie bands, the 80s were the worst decade for music since Edison's first wax cylinder. This is inarguable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Modern day tourism is awful. You just have mass hordes flocking to a place for selfie photos because they saw nice pictures online. They often partake very little in the local culture, learn absolutely zero at museums because all they're doing the whole time is taking selfies, and world sites are treated like playgrounds for millions.

So when others go, they are philistines, but when YOU go, with your camera-less learned academic endeavors and erudite strolling encyclopedia you are a vast improvement to the cityscape?

Got it.

I mean these days yes, 85% of tourism is garbage vanity traveling. People travel all over simply to get likes and selfies at spots and just leave. We were in the British Museum of Natural History the other day and literally 99% of the people there were just there for taking selfies with ridiculous poses. It got sooooo annoying trying to read the information on the exhibits because you were always pressured to move because you might be in someone line of sight for a selfie. Hardly anyone was there to actually read and learn about anything in the displays. They were all too busy clogging up the stairs trying to take selfies in the main hall which is photogenic.


And actually yes, I have zero social media accounts and never post traveling photos of anything. I don’t have an insane urge to feel like I need to show off my travels for vanity purposes so that I can get virtual thumbs up.

Modern day tourism is too cheap and allows anyone with a job at Walmart to travel. TikTok has warped everyone’s brain to flock to sites all over the planet for selfies and then to move on like locusts to the next site. It was not like this 25 years ago.

There it is! It only took 10 pages for someone to finally say it. Too many poors are now traveling and this PP doesn’t want her little Larlo/Larlita to possibly get their poor germs.

You must be the idiot at concerts who pays $300 to watch it through their phone because they’re filming the whole time.

Omg, what if my friends don’t know I went to go see Morgan Waller play!!?? Or what if they don’t know I’m in Europe right now!? I better film this and post clips to insta! Gotta make sure *everyone* knows where I went. Don’t you wish that you were me at this concert? Don’t you wish you were me at the foot of Mount Fuji? Don’t you wish you were me right now eating this amazing British cream tea at this 400 year old inn? You want to be me! Now give me likes!


You are the modern day tourist, admit it. Just awful.

Wut.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Modern day tourism is awful. You just have mass hordes flocking to a place for selfie photos because they saw nice pictures online. They often partake very little in the local culture, learn absolutely zero at museums because all they're doing the whole time is taking selfies, and world sites are treated like playgrounds for millions.

So when others go, they are philistines, but when YOU go, with your camera-less learned academic endeavors and erudite strolling encyclopedia you are a vast improvement to the cityscape?

Got it.

NP. You refuse to believe those who experienced past tourism and can compare it to the current overcrowded situation.

Go now if you want with little Timmy, but we just feel sorry that you are experiencing these places in such an unpleasant environment, and feel extremely lucky we got to go when it was more pleasant.

You are still missing the point. I can't believe this has to be explained again.

None of you is saying "We should all stay away for the betterment of the locals and the tourists who have not been there before"

Instead you are saying "The new people ruined it for us! They poors and wal mart employees! They should stay at disney as intended!"

I feel the same way about music of the 1980s - we were a lucky generation.

Whaa? The era of Rick Astley, NKOTB, and Tiffany? "We Built This City", "The Final Countdown", and "Groovy Kind Of Love"? Linn drums, DX7s, and too much reverb? Hair Metal, Boy Bands, and movie soundtracks?

While we did get the birth of hip hop and a few good indie bands, the 80s were the worst decade for music since Edison's first wax cylinder. This is inarguable.

Sounds like you listened to the wrong music in the 1980s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Modern day tourism is awful. You just have mass hordes flocking to a place for selfie photos because they saw nice pictures online. They often partake very little in the local culture, learn absolutely zero at museums because all they're doing the whole time is taking selfies, and world sites are treated like playgrounds for millions.

So when others go, they are philistines, but when YOU go, with your camera-less learned academic endeavors and erudite strolling encyclopedia you are a vast improvement to the cityscape?

Got it.

NP. You refuse to believe those who experienced past tourism and can compare it to the current overcrowded situation.

Go now if you want with little Timmy, but we just feel sorry that you are experiencing these places in such an unpleasant environment, and feel extremely lucky we got to go when it was more pleasant.

You are still missing the point. I can't believe this has to be explained again.

None of you is saying "We should all stay away for the betterment of the locals and the tourists who have not been there before"

Instead you are saying "The new people ruined it for us! They poors and wal mart employees! They should stay at disney as intended!"

I feel the same way about music of the 1980s - we were a lucky generation.

Whaa? The era of Rick Astley, NKOTB, and Tiffany? "We Built This City", "The Final Countdown", and "Groovy Kind Of Love"? Linn drums, DX7s, and too much reverb? Hair Metal, Boy Bands, and movie soundtracks?

While we did get the birth of hip hop and a few good indie bands, the 80s were the worst decade for music since Edison's first wax cylinder. This is inarguable.

Sounds like you listened to the wrong music in the 1980s.

Yeah it wasn't just me. Those were all huge things I listed. That was the 80s - it was mostly garbage. I took refuge in The Replacements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Modern day tourism is awful. You just have mass hordes flocking to a place for selfie photos because they saw nice pictures online. They often partake very little in the local culture, learn absolutely zero at museums because all they're doing the whole time is taking selfies, and world sites are treated like playgrounds for millions.

So when others go, they are philistines, but when YOU go, with your camera-less learned academic endeavors and erudite strolling encyclopedia you are a vast improvement to the cityscape?

Got it.

NP. You refuse to believe those who experienced past tourism and can compare it to the current overcrowded situation.

Go now if you want with little Timmy, but we just feel sorry that you are experiencing these places in such an unpleasant environment, and feel extremely lucky we got to go when it was more pleasant.

You are still missing the point. I can't believe this has to be explained again.

None of you is saying "We should all stay away for the betterment of the locals and the tourists who have not been there before"

Instead you are saying "The new people ruined it for us! They poors and wal mart employees! They should stay at disney as intended!"

I feel the same way about music of the 1980s - we were a lucky generation.

Whaa? The era of Rick Astley, NKOTB, and Tiffany? "We Built This City", "The Final Countdown", and "Groovy Kind Of Love"? Linn drums, DX7s, and too much reverb? Hair Metal, Boy Bands, and movie soundtracks?

While we did get the birth of hip hop and a few good indie bands, the 80s were the worst decade for music since Edison's first wax cylinder. This is inarguable.

Sounds like you listened to the wrong music in the 1980s.

Yeah it wasn't just me. Those were all huge things I listed. That was the 80s - it was mostly garbage. I took refuge in The Replacements.

Big Replacements fan here. REM, Sonic Youth, and Husker Du too. And later early Jane's Addiction.

But British rock was really where it was at in the 80's. Joy Division, New Order, The Smiths, The Cure, The Pogues, the Cult, The Jesus and Mary Chain, the Psychedelic Furs, Echo and the Bunnymen, Lloyd Cole and the Commotions, Big Audio Dynamite, OMD, Depeche Mode, The The, Cocteau Twins, Love and Rockets...and the list goes on and on. And I'll throw in Soul to Soul on the soul side and The Specials and Madness on the ska side.

Were you musically asleep in the 1980's? It sure beat the dreck that the 1990's begat.

Wait, why are we talking about music in the Travel Forum?

[Anonymous]

“Almost 75% of Catalans, three out of four, are in favor of continuing to promote tourism in Catalonia.”

https://www.catalannews.com/society-science/item/barcelona-hotels-consider-unacceptable-to-squirt-water-at-tourists-during-protest

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Modern day tourism is awful. You just have mass hordes flocking to a place for selfie photos because they saw nice pictures online. They often partake very little in the local culture, learn absolutely zero at museums because all they're doing the whole time is taking selfies, and world sites are treated like playgrounds for millions.

So when others go, they are philistines, but when YOU go, with your camera-less learned academic endeavors and erudite strolling encyclopedia you are a vast improvement to the cityscape?

Got it.

NP. You refuse to believe those who experienced past tourism and can compare it to the current overcrowded situation.

Go now if you want with little Timmy, but we just feel sorry that you are experiencing these places in such an unpleasant environment, and feel extremely lucky we got to go when it was more pleasant.

You are still missing the point. I can't believe this has to be explained again.

None of you is saying "We should all stay away for the betterment of the locals and the tourists who have not been there before"

Instead you are saying "The new people ruined it for us! They poors and wal mart employees! They should stay at disney as intended!"

I feel the same way about music of the 1980s - we were a lucky generation.

Whaa? The era of Rick Astley, NKOTB, and Tiffany? "We Built This City", "The Final Countdown", and "Groovy Kind Of Love"? Linn drums, DX7s, and too much reverb? Hair Metal, Boy Bands, and movie soundtracks?

While we did get the birth of hip hop and a few good indie bands, the 80s were the worst decade for music since Edison's first wax cylinder. This is inarguable.

No, British new wave mainly because I was based in London. The Cure, the Smiths, New Order, Joy Division, Bronski Beat, Echo and the Bunnyman, Fine Young Cannibals,The Police, the Eurhythmics, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, then U2, REM, Terence Trent D'Arby, Tracy Chapman as well.

For what it's worth, I still have my travel diary from 1989/90. I budgeted 26 pounds a day and came home with unspent funds, so cut out the "poors" nonsense - I was the ultimate budget traveler, self funded with temp work staying in dorms and using a train pass.

I was in West Germany the day the Berlin Wall came down so witnessed both the pre and post cold war era. I get that you're young and that political and economic history isn't your forte.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Modern day tourism is awful. You just have mass hordes flocking to a place for selfie photos because they saw nice pictures online. They often partake very little in the local culture, learn absolutely zero at museums because all they're doing the whole time is taking selfies, and world sites are treated like playgrounds for millions.

So when others go, they are philistines, but when YOU go, with your camera-less learned academic endeavors and erudite strolling encyclopedia you are a vast improvement to the cityscape?

Got it.

NP. You refuse to believe those who experienced past tourism and can compare it to the current overcrowded situation.

Go now if you want with little Timmy, but we just feel sorry that you are experiencing these places in such an unpleasant environment, and feel extremely lucky we got to go when it was more pleasant.

You are still missing the point. I can't believe this has to be explained again.

None of you is saying "We should all stay away for the betterment of the locals and the tourists who have not been there before"

Instead you are saying "The new people ruined it for us! They poors and wal mart employees! They should stay at disney as intended!"

I feel the same way about music of the 1980s - we were a lucky generation.

Whaa? The era of Rick Astley, NKOTB, and Tiffany? "We Built This City", "The Final Countdown", and "Groovy Kind Of Love"? Linn drums, DX7s, and too much reverb? Hair Metal, Boy Bands, and movie soundtracks?

While we did get the birth of hip hop and a few good indie bands, the 80s were the worst decade for music since Edison's first wax cylinder. This is inarguable.

Sounds like you listened to the wrong music in the 1980s.

I think either she was in diapers or wasn't born yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Modern day tourism is awful. You just have mass hordes flocking to a place for selfie photos because they saw nice pictures online. They often partake very little in the local culture, learn absolutely zero at museums because all they're doing the whole time is taking selfies, and world sites are treated like playgrounds for millions.

So when others go, they are philistines, but when YOU go, with your camera-less learned academic endeavors and erudite strolling encyclopedia you are a vast improvement to the cityscape?

Got it.

NP. You refuse to believe those who experienced past tourism and can compare it to the current overcrowded situation.

Go now if you want with little Timmy, but we just feel sorry that you are experiencing these places in such an unpleasant environment, and feel extremely lucky we got to go when it was more pleasant.

You are still missing the point. I can't believe this has to be explained again.

None of you is saying "We should all stay away for the betterment of the locals and the tourists who have not been there before"

Instead you are saying "The new people ruined it for us! They poors and wal mart employees! They should stay at disney as intended!"

I feel the same way about music of the 1980s - we were a lucky generation.

Whaa? The era of Rick Astley, NKOTB, and Tiffany? "We Built This City", "The Final Countdown", and "Groovy Kind Of Love"? Linn drums, DX7s, and too much reverb? Hair Metal, Boy Bands, and movie soundtracks?

While we did get the birth of hip hop and a few good indie bands, the 80s were the worst decade for music since Edison's first wax cylinder. This is inarguable.

Sounds like you listened to the wrong music in the 1980s.

Yeah it wasn't just me. Those were all huge things I listed. That was the 80s - it was mostly garbage. I took refuge in The Replacements.

Big Replacements fan here. REM, Sonic Youth, and Husker Du too. And later early Jane's Addiction.

But British rock was really where it was at in the 80's. Joy Division, New Order, The Smiths, The Cure, The Pogues, the Cult, The Jesus and Mary Chain, the Psychedelic Furs, Echo and the Bunnymen, Lloyd Cole and the Commotions, Big Audio Dynamite, OMD, Depeche Mode, The The, Cocteau Twins, Love and Rockets...and the list goes on and on. And I'll throw in Soul to Soul on the soul side and The Specials and Madness on the ska side.

Were you musically asleep in the 1980's? It sure beat the dreck that the 1990's begat.

Wait, why are we talking about music in the Travel Forum?

Lloyd Cole. I love Lloyd. Jennifer we can't go wrong, let's put it in writing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Almost 75% of Catalans, three out of four, are in favor of continuing to promote tourism in Catalonia.”

https://www.catalannews.com/society-science/item/barcelona-hotels-consider-unacceptable-to-squirt-water-at-tourists-during-protest

That survey seems to have a math problem:

The survey was made between March 12 and May 19.

Out of those backing continuing to promote tourism, 24% are very much in favor, and 50% agree. However, 39% are against it or very much against it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Barcelona is not worth a visit. Between the pickpockets, panhandlers and nasty locals, you're better off anywhere else Spain. Just spend a day to see the Gaudi stuff and be out.

Agree with this

I was in Barcelona in the early 1990s during 6 months backpacking through Europe. It wasn’t great then either and people were pretty unfriendly compared to other parts of Spain. I think they are just angry people for other reasons besides tourism. Definitely better places to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Almost 75% of Catalans, three out of four, are in favor of continuing to promote tourism in Catalonia.”

https://www.catalannews.com/society-science/item/barcelona-hotels-consider-unacceptable-to-squirt-water-at-tourists-during-protest

That survey seems to have a math problem:

The survey was made between March 12 and May 19.

Out of those backing continuing to promote tourism, 24% are very much in favor, and 50% agree. However, 39% are against it or very much against it.

Most Catalans don't live in downtown Barcelona. I'm very much in favor of increased tourism in DC, sitting here in McLean where tourists don't come. See the problem with the survey?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Almost 75% of Catalans, three out of four, are in favor of continuing to promote tourism in Catalonia.”

https://www.catalannews.com/society-science/item/barcelona-hotels-consider-unacceptable-to-squirt-water-at-tourists-during-protest

That survey seems to have a math problem:

The survey was made between March 12 and May 19.

Out of those backing continuing to promote tourism, 24% are very much in favor, and 50% agree. However, 39% are against it or very much against it.

Most Catalans don't live in downtown Barcelona. I'm very much in favor of increased tourism in DC, sitting here in McLean where tourists don't come. See the problem with the survey?

I thought the problem was that the three numbers add up to 113%. but I guess you raise another problem.