NYT story: Trump administration could strike abortion almost immediately using Comstock law

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As the usable responses began to come in, I found that 5,337 biologists (96%) affirmed that a human’s life begins at fertilization, with 240 (4%) rejecting that view. The majority of the sample identified as liberal (89%), pro-choice (85%) and non-religious (63%). In the case of Americans who expressed party preference, the majority identified as Democrats (92%).

https://quillette.com/2019/10/16/i-asked-thousands-of-biologists-when-life-begins-the-answer-wasnt-popular/

So what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As the usable responses began to come in, I found that 5,337 biologists (96%) affirmed that a human’s life begins at fertilization, with 240 (4%) rejecting that view. The majority of the sample identified as liberal (89%), pro-choice (85%) and non-religious (63%). In the case of Americans who expressed party preference, the majority identified as Democrats (92%).

https://quillette.com/2019/10/16/i-asked-thousands-of-biologists-when-life-begins-the-answer-wasnt-popular/

So what?

Exactly. Quillette is a libertarian leaning mag from Australia.
Were the “non usable” responses ones she disagreed with?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As the usable responses began to come in, I found that 5,337 biologists (96%) affirmed that a human’s life begins at fertilization, with 240 (4%) rejecting that view. The majority of the sample identified as liberal (89%), pro-choice (85%) and non-religious (63%). In the case of Americans who expressed party preference, the majority identified as Democrats (92%).

https://quillette.com/2019/10/16/i-asked-thousands-of-biologists-when-life-begins-the-answer-wasnt-popular/

So what?

Exactly. Quillette is a libertarian leaning mag from Australia.
Were the “non usable” responses ones she disagreed with?

Did you happen to read the linked article and notice who wrote the article?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As the usable responses began to come in, I found that 5,337 biologists (96%) affirmed that a human’s life begins at fertilization, with 240 (4%) rejecting that view. The majority of the sample identified as liberal (89%), pro-choice (85%) and non-religious (63%). In the case of Americans who expressed party preference, the majority identified as Democrats (92%).

https://quillette.com/2019/10/16/i-asked-thousands-of-biologists-when-life-begins-the-answer-wasnt-popular/

So what?

Exactly. Quillette is a libertarian leaning mag from Australia.
Were the “non usable” responses ones she disagreed with?

Did you happen to read the linked article and notice who wrote the article?

did you answer the question about ventilator patients yet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As the usable responses began to come in, I found that 5,337 biologists (96%) affirmed that a human’s life begins at fertilization, with 240 (4%) rejecting that view. The majority of the sample identified as liberal (89%), pro-choice (85%) and non-religious (63%). In the case of Americans who expressed party preference, the majority identified as Democrats (92%).

https://quillette.com/2019/10/16/i-asked-thousands-of-biologists-when-life-begins-the-answer-wasnt-popular/

So what?

Shortly after being awarded my Ph.D. by the University of Chicago’s department of Comparative Human Development this year, I found myself in a minor media whirlwind. I was interviewed by The Daily Wire, The College Fix, and Breitbart. I appeared on national television and on a widely syndicated radio program. All of this interest had been prompted by a working paper associated with my dissertation, which was entitled Balancing Abortion Rights and Fetal Rights: A Mixed Methods Mediation of the U.S. Abortion Debate.

As discussed in more detail below, I reported that both a majority of pro-choice Americans (53%) and a majority of pro-life Americans (54%) would support a comprehensive policy compromise that provides entitlements to pregnant women, improves the adoption process for parents, permits abortion in extreme circumstances, and restricts elective abortion after the first trimester. However, members of the media were mostly interested in my finding that 96% of the 5,577 biologists who responded to me affirmed the view that a human life begins at fertilization.

https://quillette.com/2019/10/16/i-asked-thousands-of-biologists-when-life-begins-the-answer-wasnt-popular/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As the usable responses began to come in, I found that 5,337 biologists (96%) affirmed that a human’s life begins at fertilization, with 240 (4%) rejecting that view. The majority of the sample identified as liberal (89%), pro-choice (85%) and non-religious (63%). In the case of Americans who expressed party preference, the majority identified as Democrats (92%).

https://quillette.com/2019/10/16/i-asked-thousands-of-biologists-when-life-begins-the-answer-wasnt-popular/

So what?

Exactly. Quillette is a libertarian leaning mag from Australia.
Were the “non usable” responses ones she disagreed with?

Did you happen to read the linked article and notice who wrote the article?

did you answer the question about ventilator patients yet?

Start your own thread about euthanasia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As the usable responses began to come in, I found that 5,337 biologists (96%) affirmed that a human’s life begins at fertilization, with 240 (4%) rejecting that view. The majority of the sample identified as liberal (89%), pro-choice (85%) and non-religious (63%). In the case of Americans who expressed party preference, the majority identified as Democrats (92%).

https://quillette.com/2019/10/16/i-asked-thousands-of-biologists-when-life-begins-the-answer-wasnt-popular/

So what?

Exactly. Quillette is a libertarian leaning mag from Australia.
Were the “non usable” responses ones she disagreed with?

Did you happen to read the linked article and notice who wrote the article?

did you answer the question about ventilator patients yet?

Start your own thread about euthanasia.

No, it's related. Answer the question. You're avoiding answering it for a reason and you know it. So answer the question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would I kill myself for an h born when I have living children to take care of!?!?

How are you killing yourself?

Ectopic pregnancies
Sepsis
Infection due to PPROM
Extreme cases of HG
Cancers discovered during pregnancy
Heart conditions discovered during pregnancy
Pre-existing heart or kidney conditions or other health conditions for which pregnancy poses extreme risks
Placental abruption
Pre-eclampsia
Etc
Etc
Etc

All of the above can be fatal to the mother. All can result in life-altering consequences to the mother and limit or prohibit her ability to carry future pregnancies or take care of children she already has.

Have you never known anyone in your life who has had a life-threatening pregnancy? How fortunate.

Then don’t have sex I guess? These are like the arguments made against ending slavery before machinery and electricity. Working a farm by hand in the hot summer sun is way deadlier than pregnancy. The abuse of the helpless for the convenience of the strong is wrong in every age.

Oh, you mean aim for being a childless cat lady? I'm sure JD Vance and others of his ilk would just LOVE it if their wives started denying sex for fear of getting pregnant and losing their own right to life should a potential complication occur.

Anybody who would stab a developing helpless human in the head to avoid pregnancy would definitely have had slaves to avoid working a farm with hand tools. Even slaves wanted to live so in a way abortion is worse. People never change and are really bad.

Anyone who would force a 10 year old to go through the arduous and dangerous processor gestating a fetus to term and pushing out of her body would definitely have agreed that slaves did not have the right to bodily autonomy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would I kill myself for an h born when I have living children to take care of!?!?

How are you killing yourself?

Ectopic pregnancies
Sepsis
Infection due to PPROM
Extreme cases of HG
Cancers discovered during pregnancy
Heart conditions discovered during pregnancy
Pre-existing heart or kidney conditions or other health conditions for which pregnancy poses extreme risks
Placental abruption
Pre-eclampsia
Etc
Etc
Etc

All of the above can be fatal to the mother. All can result in life-altering consequences to the mother and limit or prohibit her ability to carry future pregnancies or take care of children she already has.

Have you never known anyone in your life who has had a life-threatening pregnancy? How fortunate.

Then don’t have sex I guess? These are like the arguments made against ending slavery before machinery and electricity. Working a farm by hand in the hot summer sun is way deadlier than pregnancy. The abuse of the helpless for the convenience of the strong is wrong in every age.

Oh, you mean aim for being a childless cat lady? I'm sure JD Vance and others of his ilk would just LOVE it if their wives started denying sex for fear of getting pregnant and losing their own right to life should a potential complication occur.

Anybody who would stab a developing helpless human in the head to avoid pregnancy would definitely have had slaves to avoid working a farm with hand tools. Even slaves wanted to live so in a way abortion is worse. People never change and are really bad.

Anyone who would force a 10 year old to go through the arduous and dangerous processor gestating a fetus to term and pushing out of her body would definitely have agreed that slaves did not have the right to bodily autonomy.

+1 the PP clearly supports child torture and abuse. It is abusive to do that to a 10 year old, but they don't care as long as the 10 year old can be a sacrificial lamb. Sick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would I kill myself for an h born when I have living children to take care of!?!?

How are you killing yourself?

Ectopic pregnancies
Sepsis
Infection due to PPROM
Extreme cases of HG
Cancers discovered during pregnancy
Heart conditions discovered during pregnancy
Pre-existing heart or kidney conditions or other health conditions for which pregnancy poses extreme risks
Placental abruption
Pre-eclampsia
Etc
Etc
Etc

All of the above can be fatal to the mother. All can result in life-altering consequences to the mother and limit or prohibit her ability to carry future pregnancies or take care of children she already has.

Have you never known anyone in your life who has had a life-threatening pregnancy? How fortunate.

Then don’t have sex I guess? These are like the arguments made against ending slavery before machinery and electricity. Working a farm by hand in the hot summer sun is way deadlier than pregnancy. The abuse of the helpless for the convenience of the strong is wrong in every age.

I had a friend who died from a much wanted pregnancy that suddenly and unexpectedly killed her.

That can happen in any pregnancy. Moreover pregnancy is a difficult process that leaves every woman’s body changed. It is literally labor to gestate for 9 months. And difficult, potentially dangerous and even deadly work. That’s why women get to decide, why they have the upper hand in deciding if they are willing to donate their body and their labor and time to gestating a human being. You seem to believe in forced labor. That is completely un-American.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As the usable responses began to come in, I found that 5,337 biologists (96%) affirmed that a human’s life begins at fertilization, with 240 (4%) rejecting that view. The majority of the sample identified as liberal (89%), pro-choice (85%) and non-religious (63%). In the case of Americans who expressed party preference, the majority identified as Democrats (92%).

https://quillette.com/2019/10/16/i-asked-thousands-of-biologists-when-life-begins-the-answer-wasnt-popular/

So what?

Shortly after being awarded my Ph.D. by the University of Chicago’s department of Comparative Human Development this year, I found myself in a minor media whirlwind. I was interviewed by The Daily Wire, The College Fix, and Breitbart. I appeared on national television and on a widely syndicated radio program. All of this interest had been prompted by a working paper associated with my dissertation, which was entitled Balancing Abortion Rights and Fetal Rights: A Mixed Methods Mediation of the U.S. Abortion Debate.

As discussed in more detail below, I reported that both a majority of pro-choice Americans (53%) and a majority of pro-life Americans (54%) would support a comprehensive policy compromise that provides entitlements to pregnant women, improves the adoption process for parents, permits abortion in extreme circumstances, and restricts elective abortion after the first trimester. However, members of the media were mostly interested in my finding that 96% of the 5,577 biologists who responded to me affirmed the view that a human life begins at fertilization.

https://quillette.com/2019/10/16/i-asked-thousands-of-biologists-when-life-begins-the-answer-wasnt-popular/

Here you go again, not understanding science and studies.

You can’t just count the people who respond to surveys as being scientific because it could be that only the people who have something that goes against the typical belief for their profession. There are any number of reasons why people wouldn’t respond, but that is not a legitimate way to run a study.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As the usable responses began to come in, I found that 5,337 biologists (96%) affirmed that a human’s life begins at fertilization, with 240 (4%) rejecting that view. The majority of the sample identified as liberal (89%), pro-choice (85%) and non-religious (63%). In the case of Americans who expressed party preference, the majority identified as Democrats (92%).

https://quillette.com/2019/10/16/i-asked-thousands-of-biologists-when-life-begins-the-answer-wasnt-popular/

So what?

Exactly. Quillette is a libertarian leaning mag from Australia.
Were the “non usable” responses ones she disagreed with?

Did you happen to read the linked article and notice who wrote the article?

did you answer the question about ventilator patients yet?

Start your own thread about euthanasia.

No, it's related. Answer the question. You're avoiding answering it for a reason and you know it. So answer the question.

AND while you are at it, tell me why you want to waste tax dollars taking care of doomed babies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As the usable responses began to come in, I found that 5,337 biologists (96%) affirmed that a human’s life begins at fertilization, with 240 (4%) rejecting that view. The majority of the sample identified as liberal (89%), pro-choice (85%) and non-religious (63%). In the case of Americans who expressed party preference, the majority identified as Democrats (92%).

https://quillette.com/2019/10/16/i-asked-thousands-of-biologists-when-life-begins-the-answer-wasnt-popular/

So what?

Shortly after being awarded my Ph.D. by the University of Chicago’s department of Comparative Human Development this year, I found myself in a minor media whirlwind. I was interviewed by The Daily Wire, The College Fix, and Breitbart. I appeared on national television and on a widely syndicated radio program. All of this interest had been prompted by a working paper associated with my dissertation, which was entitled Balancing Abortion Rights and Fetal Rights: A Mixed Methods Mediation of the U.S. Abortion Debate.

As discussed in more detail below, I reported that both a majority of pro-choice Americans (53%) and a majority of pro-life Americans (54%) would support a comprehensive policy compromise that provides entitlements to pregnant women, improves the adoption process for parents, permits abortion in extreme circumstances, and restricts elective abortion after the first trimester. However, members of the media were mostly interested in my finding that 96% of the 5,577 biologists who responded to me affirmed the view that a human life begins at fertilization.

https://quillette.com/2019/10/16/i-asked-thousands-of-biologists-when-life-begins-the-answer-wasnt-popular/

Here you go again, not understanding science and studies.

You can’t just count the people who respond to surveys as being scientific because it could be that only the people who have something that goes against the typical belief for their profession. There are any number of reasons why people wouldn’t respond, but that is not a legitimate way to run a study.

Plus poorly worded or poorly designed study questions lead to poor conclusions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am going to go ahead and guess that the bodily rights of the unborn babies (i.e., the right to actually keep their body) are not going to be given much consideration in this thread.

What about my bodily right not to have an unwanted parasite growing inside me and distorting my body causing me extreme discomfort and, possibly, ends getting my life?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am going to go ahead and guess that the bodily rights of the unborn babies (i.e., the right to actually keep their body) are not going to be given much consideration in this thread.

What about my bodily right not to have an unwanted parasite growing inside me and distorting my body causing me extreme discomfort and, possibly, ends getting my life?

DP
I am 100% pro choice (and pro euthanasia as well). However I do think that people who use abortion as a method of birth control are pretty disgusting.

Unless you’re talking about rape, we all know that you can get pregnant when you have sex. If you don’t want to get pregnant, don’t have sex. If you don’t want an unwanted parasite growing inside you, why are you precipitating in activities that could potentially put one there?