VA Tech Releasing Some Decisions at 5 pm Today

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Anonymous wrote:The point is that VT has created all this speculation. Ok, so they send 25% acceptances during the 'EA' round. But why send an email to others and no email to others. My DS got an email and no acceptance and it's so unnerving and leading to all this speculation to calm ourselves down. Why not just tell us straight up?!

Would you prefer no email at all? They're being transparent by keeping you abreast of the situation. Chill out.

Yes.

Or a differently worded email that went out to everyone.

👍 An email to everyone who applied EA seems like a pretty reasonable expectation.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Va Tech might have alienated a lot of kids and parents who thought they had a good shot at getting admitted with this pre-Christmas "soft rejection." Why send the notification to everyone? I'm the parent of a Va resident applicant with 1510 SAT, 4.3 GPA and completed/taking 12 AP courses (only courses left in the school for them to take that build on previous STEM courses) with 5 x AP test 4s and 5s (none lower) including a 5 on AP Calc. Not admitted yesterday although two friends from another HS with lower SAT/ACT scores were, and now wondering what they're looking for as a STEM candidate. Just a very unpleasant surprise for all of us.

You sound entitled. Admission to any college isn't guaranteed.

You're also sucked into the false narrative that SAT/ACT scores are determining factors. They are not.

ACT and SAT scores really should matter most at an engineering school.

Test optional does not help smart poor kids.

+1 Agree

Test optional helps rich and upper middle class kids with mediocre test scores and likely hurts smart and brilliant poor kids, who don't have access to expensive college counselors and who don't have the money and leisure time to pursue expensive extracurricular activities to pad their applications.

If the upper middle class and rich kids have mediocre grades they’re not getting in. Activities don’t matter much. Expensive test prep does, and poor kids don’t have that.

They have inflated grades and curated applications from expensive college counselors.

Going test optional removes the one impartial equalizer available for poor smart kids, and raises opportunities for wealthy and upper middle class kids.

DP. Maybe take up your grudge with the 99% of other colleges that are also test optional.

No grudge.

2 of my kids were one and done 1500+ scores with zero prep. The other will spend hours on prep to get a 1200.

Test optional is against poor smart kids who get high schools at crappy schools with no prep, tutors or $$ college counselors

Why are you still yammering away about test optional, when - again - the VAST majority of colleges are now all test optional? You are totally off-topic here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The point is that VT has created all this speculation. Ok, so they send 25% acceptances during the 'EA' round. But why send an email to others and no email to others. My DS got an email and no acceptance and it's so unnerving and leading to all this speculation to calm ourselves down. Why not just tell us straight up?!

Would you prefer no email at all? They're being transparent by keeping you abreast of the situation. Chill out.

Yes.

Or a differently worded email that went out to everyone.

👍 An email to everyone who applied EA seems like a pretty reasonable expectation.

Sounds like that's exactly what they did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The point is that VT has created all this speculation. Ok, so they send 25% acceptances during the 'EA' round. But why send an email to others and no email to others. My DS got an email and no acceptance and it's so unnerving and leading to all this speculation to calm ourselves down. Why not just tell us straight up?!

Would you prefer no email at all? They're being transparent by keeping you abreast of the situation. Chill out.

Yes.

Or a differently worded email that went out to everyone.

👍 An email to everyone who applied EA seems like a pretty reasonable expectation.

Sounds like that's exactly what they did.

. Nope. My DC knows two people who did not get an email at all. They checked their junk folder as well. But they saw a post on TikTok from their classmate who was accepted. That is how they knew some decisions went out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The point is that VT has created all this speculation. Ok, so they send 25% acceptances during the 'EA' round. But why send an email to others and no email to others. My DS got an email and no acceptance and it's so unnerving and leading to all this speculation to calm ourselves down. Why not just tell us straight up?!

Would you prefer no email at all? They're being transparent by keeping you abreast of the situation. Chill out.

Yes.

Or a differently worded email that went out to everyone.

👍 An email to everyone who applied EA seems like a pretty reasonable expectation.

Sounds like that's exactly what they did.

. Nope. My DC knows two people who did not get an email at all. They checked their junk folder as well. But they saw a post on TikTok from their classmate who was accepted. That is how they knew some decisions went out.

Two?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Poor communication all around. The email caused bad feelings and confusion. Poorly done indeed. And unnecessary.

Since there's no ED this year, and the EA's decision usually comes out in February. It's a possibility that the VT admission office is getting a lot of inquiries about the release date and therefore, decided tp release EA offers in stages.

THIS ^^. Not sure what all the fuss is about. EA at VT is usually in Feb. Having eliminated ED (don't know why), they now have all of those apps combined to deal with. So either everyone waits until February, or they release the ones they've finished.

Really, they should reinstate ED for next year. So many kids just want to apply to their first choice and be done with it.

They said they were doing away with ED because it hurts students who rely on financial aid. It was announced at the same time as they announced their move away from legacy admissions after the Supreme Court decision. It's part of their plan to make admissions more equitable.

“The previous expectation in the early decision plan that students lock in their commitment to Virginia Tech well before the regular decision deadline was not a good option for all of our applicants, particularly those needing financial aid, and created unneeded pressure on students,” said Juan Espinoza, associate vice provost for enrollment management. “By eliminating early decision, we are simplifying our application process and also leveling the playing field for all students, regardless of their household income.”

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Anonymous wrote:The point is that VT has created all this speculation. Ok, so they send 25% acceptances during the 'EA' round. But why send an email to others and no email to others. My DS got an email and no acceptance and it's so unnerving and leading to all this speculation to calm ourselves down. Why not just tell us straight up?!

Would you prefer no email at all? They're being transparent by keeping you abreast of the situation. Chill out.

Yes.

Or a differently worded email that went out to everyone.

👍 An email to everyone who applied EA seems like a pretty reasonable expectation.

Sounds like that's exactly what they did.

. Nope. My DC knows two people who did not get an email at all. They checked their junk folder as well. But they saw a post on TikTok from their classmate who was accepted. That is how they knew some decisions went out.

Two?

Based on Naviance 18 applied from DC’s school. DC knows 2 as of last night that did not get the update email. Know 1 that got in based on TikTok video. We are oos.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the admission team at Virginia Tech lied about test optional. The only kids that got in have SAT scores posted.

You can't seriously be basing the acceptances so far on the few people who actually post on DCUM? Good grief. Get ahold of yourself.

100% not true. Here I am posting about DS who got accepted test optional (Accounting / Information Systems). 3.94 weighted GPA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They have inflated grades and curated applications from expensive college counselors.

But inflated standardized test scores from expensive tutors are different...RIGHT?

Very few kids do that. The group least likely to use test prep is surprisingly white kids. Asians prep the most, followed by black kids, then Hispanics.

I'd love to see stats to back this assertion up.

Asians, I get since test prep is ingrained in the culture and is a lucrative industry in home countries. Whites have more access to tools, especially via paid means to test prep.

Standardized testing in the U.S. was designed to exclude blacks from certain institutions, educational or otherwise.

Some ( namely UMC whites who use paid test prep) tout Khan Academy via pull-yourself-from-bootstraps speak, but the digital divide is real in America: many blacks, Hispanics, and poor whites ( think Appalachia) don't have high speed internet access at home.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.11...73-7861.2012.01326.x

“Black non-Hispanic students are more likely to participate in test prep, and there are also significant interaction effects of race and grade level on prep, with black 11th graders having the highest predicted probability of prep. “

https://academic.oup.com/sf/article-abstract/...irectedFrom=fulltext ; this one is sadly behind a paywall now.

https://www.academia.edu/3137918/Alon_Sigal_2...474?uc-g-sw=25273978

“ blacks and Hispanics are more likely than whites from comparable backgrounds to utilize test preparation. The black-white gap is especially pronounced in the use of high school courses, private courses and private tutors.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The point is that VT has created all this speculation. Ok, so they send 25% acceptances during the 'EA' round. But why send an email to others and no email to others. My DS got an email and no acceptance and it's so unnerving and leading to all this speculation to calm ourselves down. Why not just tell us straight up?!

Would you prefer no email at all? They're being transparent by keeping you abreast of the situation. Chill out.

Their communication was awful.

If they sent out a note last week that they are reviewing applications based on when they were received and will be communicating on batches, fine. But they just “suprised” people by posting some acceptances, emailing others that some would be notified and not notifying others. Poorly thought out when they initially said EA decisions would go out in February.

OMG. So you're saying if they had just sent an email one week earlier, explaining exactly what they explained in the actual email, you'd be content? And you'd prefer that they had just waited until February to release all decisions? I bet the batch who was notified yesterday is thrilled that they didn't have to wait.

Honestly, they should just return to ED next year to bypass all this ridiculous complaining. Of course, some of you would complain about that, too.

No, they shouldn’t change the process midstream. Not now and not one week ago. They should know upfront how they handle admissions, inform students and then do it. They’re really unprofessional.

Juan is not really good at his job.

Get a grip

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The point is that VT has created all this speculation. Ok, so they send 25% acceptances during the 'EA' round. But why send an email to others and no email to others. My DS got an email and no acceptance and it's so unnerving and leading to all this speculation to calm ourselves down. Why not just tell us straight up?!

Would you prefer no email at all? They're being transparent by keeping you abreast of the situation. Chill out.

Their communication was awful.

If they sent out a note last week that they are reviewing applications based on when they were received and will be communicating on batches, fine. But they just “suprised” people by posting some acceptances, emailing others that some would be notified and not notifying others. Poorly thought out when they initially said EA decisions would go out in February.

OMG. So you're saying if they had just sent an email one week earlier, explaining exactly what they explained in the actual email, you'd be content? And you'd prefer that they had just waited until February to release all decisions? I bet the batch who was notified yesterday is thrilled that they didn't have to wait.

Honestly, they should just return to ED next year to bypass all this ridiculous complaining. Of course, some of you would complain about that, too.

No, they shouldn’t change the process midstream. Not now and not one week ago. They should know upfront how they handle admissions, inform students and then do it. They’re really unprofessional.

Juan is not really good at his job.

Get a grip

100% this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They have inflated grades and curated applications from expensive college counselors.

But inflated standardized test scores from expensive tutors are different...RIGHT?

Very few kids do that. The group least likely to use test prep is surprisingly white kids. Asians prep the most, followed by black kids, then Hispanics.

I'd love to see stats to back this assertion up.

Asians, I get since test prep is ingrained in the culture and is a lucrative industry in home countries. Whites have more access to tools, especially via paid means to test prep.

Standardized testing in the U.S. was designed to exclude blacks from certain institutions, educational or otherwise.

Some ( namely UMC whites who use paid test prep) tout Khan Academy via pull-yourself-from-bootstraps speak, but the digital divide is real in America: many blacks, Hispanics, and poor whites ( think Appalachia) don't have high speed internet access at home.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.11...73-7861.2012.01326.x

“Black non-Hispanic students are more likely to participate in test prep, and there are also significant interaction effects of race and grade level on prep, with black 11th graders having the highest predicted probability of prep. “

https://academic.oup.com/sf/article-abstract/...irectedFrom=fulltext ; this one is sadly behind a paywall now.

https://www.academia.edu/3137918/Alon_Sigal_2...474?uc-g-sw=25273978

“ blacks and Hispanics are more likely than whites from comparable backgrounds to utilize test preparation. The black-white gap is especially pronounced in the use of high school courses, private courses and private tutors.”

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/2802...nts'_SAT_Performance

"Overall, results indicate that family income and, in particular, extremely low levels of family income (what we refer to as poverty) has a meaning-ful contribution to the total SAT reasoning test scores for both Black andWhite test-takers, and helps to explain the SAT performance differences between the two social groups of students."

"Indeed, the models described in this study indicate a large meaningful effect of poverty, especially extreme poverty, on SAT performance for both Black and White test-takers. In fact, the large and differential effect of extreme poverty suggests that even if Black test-takers living in extreme poverty were to boost their high school academic achievement by one point (clearly a feat on a 4.0 scale!) they would, nevertheless, perform25.2 points below their White middle-income counterparts who achieved one point lower in high school achievement. Thus, the focus on high school achievement for students in poverty may not be sufficient for pro-viding them with an equal opportunity to higher education based on the measured proxy of total SAT scores."

[Anonymous]

The test optional discussion is off-topic and derailing the thread. Please take it elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The point is that VT has created all this speculation. Ok, so they send 25% acceptances during the 'EA' round. But why send an email to others and no email to others. My DS got an email and no acceptance and it's so unnerving and leading to all this speculation to calm ourselves down. Why not just tell us straight up?!

Would you prefer no email at all? They're being transparent by keeping you abreast of the situation. Chill out.

Yes.

Or a differently worded email that went out to everyone.

👍 An email to everyone who applied EA seems like a pretty reasonable expectation.

Sounds like that's exactly what they did.

No.

VT only sent the announcement email to some of the EA kids. Not all of the EA kids received the email.

Then only some of the kids who received the email got the acceptance.

If VT had sent the first email to all of the EA applications, there would not be this drama.

[Anonymous]

Complete and total cluster$&?k by the least competent admissions office in the United States. How has this happened yet again?