Black educators at Blair push back on MCPS's ham-fisted antiracist PD

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Anonymous wrote:I think the notion that white people are being oppressed by DEI to be absurd. However, the DEI world is also ridiculous the way it treats white people. I don't know what their goal is other than to create budding white nationalists. If you want people to join your cause maybe don't force them to spend hours listening to you bash them after telling them not to be "defensive" and to not "put the burden" on you by asking questions. Lol.
Your post is confusing. At first you say that white people aren't being oppressed by DEI. But then you spend the rest of your post laying out how white people are dumped on by DEI. Do you not see the connection?


An annoying, off putting training is not the same thing as oppression.
OK, so when they say they want to hire fewer white people and ignore what white people have to say, that's not oppression?


Since they currently hire a disproportionately high amount of white people and ignore BiPOC people, correcting that is not oppression
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Anonymous wrote:I think the notion that white people are being oppressed by DEI to be absurd. However, the DEI world is also ridiculous the way it treats white people. I don't know what their goal is other than to create budding white nationalists. If you want people to join your cause maybe don't force them to spend hours listening to you bash them after telling them not to be "defensive" and to not "put the burden" on you by asking questions. Lol.
Your post is confusing. At first you say that white people aren't being oppressed by DEI. But then you spend the rest of your post laying out how white people are dumped on by DEI. Do you not see the connection?


An annoying, off putting training is not the same thing as oppression.
OK, so when they say they want to hire fewer white people and ignore what white people have to say, that's not oppression?


Since they currently hire a disproportionately high amount of white people and ignore BiPOC people, correcting that is not oppression


I'd like to see the hiring data backing up these claims.
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Anonymous wrote:Instead of studying the facts of history, this kind of manichean thinking has reduced all the facts down to one simplistic--and dangerous--narrative. I mean, not only does it have the potential to pit kids in a diverse environment against each other due to their ancestry, it's intellectually lazy. They're not actually learning anything if all thats the only fact they need to know, the one that explains everything.


Sadly, MCPS has always had the students self-segregate and they continue to. Instead of bring students and families together they are pushing them further apart. Kids shouldn't be blamed for their ancestry as they had nothing to do with it nor can change what happened.


The kids can change what happens going forward, but the right doesn’t want them to do it frightens white and Asian parents with the DEI boogeyman.


Do you raise how much racism is against Jews and Asians in mcps. Why does it scare you to admit racism is more than just white people being racist against blacks. And minorities are the majority at many MoCo’s schools.


I've heard some posters claim the race-blind magnet selection process that picks mostly Asians is racist against Asians.
Well, the magnet selection process was changed to increase the number of black and Hispanic kids in the program. Instead of harming white people like they wanted to, Asians were caught in the crossfire and took almost all of the impact.


Why do you think the intent was to harm Whites? That’s a wild claim considering that the number of White boys with disabilities greatly increased under the new process.
Because MCPS openly talks about whiteness as being bad, wants to decenter whiteness, and lessen white privilege. And several MCPS schools held up CRT author Kendi as the answer to racism. If you're not familiar with Kendi, he says discrimination against whites is a necessary component of anti-racism.


It’s true that being white and “white privilege” are negatives. There is a shame that comes with being white. I don’t know if this is actively being taught in the schools or if kids are just picking it up from the media or social media.


It's very dangerous. I think there's a lot of well-intentioned white (and biopic) people pushing this narrative because they think it rights history that don't understand how dangerous this way of thinking can be. Their ancestors would tell them. Looking at actual history might also offer a clue. Looking at places in the world that have fallen into this trap might also do some good.

I just want to congratulate all you well-intentioned people again for inventing a white cause. What was once fringe lunatics sitting off in Idaho is becoming something much more terrifying.
Exactly. I'm white and wokes have made me acutely aware of systemic racism against white people in the form of affirmative action, racial equity, minority affinity groups, etc. I'm far less sympathetic than I used to be knowing the DEI system is trying to drag me down.


LOLOL
Why do you find racism funny?


You're not oppressed. Stop trying so hard to be, Jesus Christ. Look up the definition of racism. White people are not a minority..they are not marginalized-they are in a position of power. Maybe try and seek out an education first before making such ignorant posts.


True, but their claims are so crazy they do seem a little funny.
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Anonymous wrote:I think the notion that white people are being oppressed by DEI to be absurd. However, the DEI world is also ridiculous the way it treats white people. I don't know what their goal is other than to create budding white nationalists. If you want people to join your cause maybe don't force them to spend hours listening to you bash them after telling them not to be "defensive" and to not "put the burden" on you by asking questions. Lol.
Your post is confusing. At first you say that white people aren't being oppressed by DEI. But then you spend the rest of your post laying out how white people are dumped on by DEI. Do you not see the connection?


An annoying, off putting training is not the same thing as oppression.
OK, so when they say they want to hire fewer white people and ignore what white people have to say, that's not oppression?


Since they currently hire a disproportionately high amount of white people and ignore BiPOC people, correcting that is not oppression
"correcting" based on skin color is racial discrimination aka racism.
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Anonymous wrote:I think the notion that white people are being oppressed by DEI to be absurd. However, the DEI world is also ridiculous the way it treats white people. I don't know what their goal is other than to create budding white nationalists. If you want people to join your cause maybe don't force them to spend hours listening to you bash them after telling them not to be "defensive" and to not "put the burden" on you by asking questions. Lol.
Your post is confusing. At first you say that white people aren't being oppressed by DEI. But then you spend the rest of your post laying out how white people are dumped on by DEI. Do you not see the connection?


An annoying, off putting training is not the same thing as oppression.
OK, so when they say they want to hire fewer white people and ignore what white people have to say, that's not oppression?


Since they currently hire a disproportionately high amount of white people and ignore BiPOC people, correcting that is not oppression


I'd like to see the hiring data backing up these claims.
Especially given the over representation of POC in positions of power withing MCPS and nearly 100% representation of progressives in positions of power within MCPS. The most likely explanation is that there simply aren't enough qualified POC who want to be teachers. That's irrelevant to progressives. They simply want to discriminated against white people to even out the numbers. Imagine if the NBA did this in reverse. The quality of the league would plummet.
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Anonymous wrote:Instead of studying the facts of history, this kind of manichean thinking has reduced all the facts down to one simplistic--and dangerous--narrative. I mean, not only does it have the potential to pit kids in a diverse environment against each other due to their ancestry, it's intellectually lazy. They're not actually learning anything if all thats the only fact they need to know, the one that explains everything.


Sadly, MCPS has always had the students self-segregate and they continue to. Instead of bring students and families together they are pushing them further apart. Kids shouldn't be blamed for their ancestry as they had nothing to do with it nor can change what happened.


The kids can change what happens going forward, but the right doesn’t want them to do it frightens white and Asian parents with the DEI boogeyman.


Do you raise how much racism is against Jews and Asians in mcps. Why does it scare you to admit racism is more than just white people being racist against blacks. And minorities are the majority at many MoCo’s schools.


I've heard some posters claim the race-blind magnet selection process that picks mostly Asians is racist against Asians.
Well, the magnet selection process was changed to increase the number of black and Hispanic kids in the program. Instead of harming white people like they wanted to, Asians were caught in the crossfire and took almost all of the impact.


Why do you think the intent was to harm Whites? That’s a wild claim considering that the number of White boys with disabilities greatly increased under the new process.
Because MCPS openly talks about whiteness as being bad, wants to decenter whiteness, and lessen white privilege. And several MCPS schools held up CRT author Kendi as the answer to racism. If you're not familiar with Kendi, he says discrimination against whites is a necessary component of anti-racism.


It’s true that being white and “white privilege” are negatives. There is a shame that comes with being white. I don’t know if this is actively being taught in the schools or if kids are just picking it up from the media or social media.


It's very dangerous. I think there's a lot of well-intentioned white (and biopic) people pushing this narrative because they think it rights history that don't understand how dangerous this way of thinking can be. Their ancestors would tell them. Looking at actual history might also offer a clue. Looking at places in the world that have fallen into this trap might also do some good.

I just want to congratulate all you well-intentioned people again for inventing a white cause. What was once fringe lunatics sitting off in Idaho is becoming something much more terrifying.
Exactly. I'm white and wokes have made me acutely aware of systemic racism against white people in the form of affirmative action, racial equity, minority affinity groups, etc. I'm far less sympathetic than I used to be knowing the DEI system is trying to drag me down.


LOLOL
Why do you find racism funny?


You're not oppressed. Stop trying so hard to be, Jesus Christ. Look up the definition of racism. White people are not a minority..they are not marginalized-they are in a position of power. Maybe try and seek out an education first before making such ignorant posts.


True, but their claims are so crazy they do seem a little funny.
It is obvious that you and PP are virtuous and have Done the Work!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the notion that white people are being oppressed by DEI to be absurd. However, the DEI world is also ridiculous the way it treats white people. I don't know what their goal is other than to create budding white nationalists. If you want people to join your cause maybe don't force them to spend hours listening to you bash them after telling them not to be "defensive" and to not "put the burden" on you by asking questions. Lol.
Your post is confusing. At first you say that white people aren't being oppressed by DEI. But then you spend the rest of your post laying out how white people are dumped on by DEI. Do you not see the connection?


An annoying, off putting training is not the same thing as oppression.
OK, so when they say they want to hire fewer white people and ignore what white people have to say, that's not oppression?


Since they currently hire a disproportionately high amount of white people and ignore BiPOC people, correcting that is not oppression


Are you serious? Ignored? Last time I checked, Americans of all colors have handed over mic, and agreed to listen to this continued barrage of insults, while investing millions in hiring start-up DEI companies to teach/implement unproven, experimental methods that so far, have only made systems less productive and toxic.

RE your comment on disproportionate hiring, what would be acceptable? You do know the stats of America, right? That more people who live here are white and exist, isn’t a direct attack on POC.

Try expanding your narrow view on the world. The level of self-absorption at play is sickening and destructive.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Instead of studying the facts of history, this kind of manichean thinking has reduced all the facts down to one simplistic--and dangerous--narrative. I mean, not only does it have the potential to pit kids in a diverse environment against each other due to their ancestry, it's intellectually lazy. They're not actually learning anything if all thats the only fact they need to know, the one that explains everything.


Sadly, MCPS has always had the students self-segregate and they continue to. Instead of bring students and families together they are pushing them further apart. Kids shouldn't be blamed for their ancestry as they had nothing to do with it nor can change what happened.


The kids can change what happens going forward, but the right doesn’t want them to do it frightens white and Asian parents with the DEI boogeyman.


Do you raise how much racism is against Jews and Asians in mcps. Why does it scare you to admit racism is more than just white people being racist against blacks. And minorities are the majority at many MoCo’s schools.


I've heard some posters claim the race-blind magnet selection process that picks mostly Asians is racist against Asians.
Well, the magnet selection process was changed to increase the number of black and Hispanic kids in the program. Instead of harming white people like they wanted to, Asians were caught in the crossfire and took almost all of the impact.


Why do you think the intent was to harm Whites? That’s a wild claim considering that the number of White boys with disabilities greatly increased under the new process.
Because MCPS openly talks about whiteness as being bad, wants to decenter whiteness, and lessen white privilege. And several MCPS schools held up CRT author Kendi as the answer to racism. If you're not familiar with Kendi, he says discrimination against whites is a necessary component of anti-racism.


It’s true that being white and “white privilege” are negatives. There is a shame that comes with being white. I don’t know if this is actively being taught in the schools or if kids are just picking it up from the media or social media.


It's very dangerous. I think there's a lot of well-intentioned white (and biopic) people pushing this narrative because they think it rights history that don't understand how dangerous this way of thinking can be. Their ancestors would tell them. Looking at actual history might also offer a clue. Looking at places in the world that have fallen into this trap might also do some good.

I just want to congratulate all you well-intentioned people again for inventing a white cause. What was once fringe lunatics sitting off in Idaho is becoming something much more terrifying.
Exactly. I'm white and wokes have made me acutely aware of systemic racism against white people in the form of affirmative action, racial equity, minority affinity groups, etc. I'm far less sympathetic than I used to be knowing the DEI system is trying to drag me down.

The Wokes are trying to take away all the stuff my grandparents managed accumulate for me. It's not fair!


Interesting that you believe you can know anything about a person’s history by looking at them. Tells me you aren’t so good at practicing what you preach.

Well, that and you don’t read much aside from cult propaganda.
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Anonymous wrote:I think the notion that white people are being oppressed by DEI to be absurd. However, the DEI world is also ridiculous the way it treats white people. I don't know what their goal is other than to create budding white nationalists. If you want people to join your cause maybe don't force them to spend hours listening to you bash them after telling them not to be "defensive" and to not "put the burden" on you by asking questions. Lol.
Your post is confusing. At first you say that white people aren't being oppressed by DEI. But then you spend the rest of your post laying out how white people are dumped on by DEI. Do you not see the connection?


An annoying, off putting training is not the same thing as oppression.
OK, so when they say they want to hire fewer white people and ignore what white people have to say, that's not oppression?


Since they currently hire a disproportionately high amount of white people and ignore BiPOC people, correcting that is not oppression


Are you serious? Ignored? Last time I checked, Americans of all colors have handed over mic, and agreed to listen to this continued barrage of insults, while investing millions in hiring start-up DEI companies to teach/implement unproven, experimental methods that so far, have only made systems less productive and toxic.

RE your comment on disproportionate hiring, what would be acceptable? You do know the stats of America, right? That more people who live here are white and exist, isn’t a direct attack on POC.

Try expanding your narrow view on the world. The level of self-absorption at play is sickening and destructive.


White people are in the minority in MoCo.
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Anonymous wrote:I think the notion that white people are being oppressed by DEI to be absurd. However, the DEI world is also ridiculous the way it treats white people. I don't know what their goal is other than to create budding white nationalists. If you want people to join your cause maybe don't force them to spend hours listening to you bash them after telling them not to be "defensive" and to not "put the burden" on you by asking questions. Lol.
Your post is confusing. At first you say that white people aren't being oppressed by DEI. But then you spend the rest of your post laying out how white people are dumped on by DEI. Do you not see the connection?


An annoying, off putting training is not the same thing as oppression.
OK, so when they say they want to hire fewer white people and ignore what white people have to say, that's not oppression?


Since they currently hire a disproportionately high amount of white people and ignore BiPOC people, correcting that is not oppression


Are you serious? Ignored? Last time I checked, Americans of all colors have handed over mic, and agreed to listen to this continued barrage of insults, while investing millions in hiring start-up DEI companies to teach/implement unproven, experimental methods that so far, have only made systems less productive and toxic.

RE your comment on disproportionate hiring, what would be acceptable? You do know the stats of America, right? That more people who live here are white and exist, isn’t a direct attack on POC.

Try expanding your narrow view on the world. The level of self-absorption at play is sickening and destructive.


White people are in the minority in MoCo.
OK, now do: people in the US legally, with teaching degrees, who want to be teachers. Are white people in the minority of that group?
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Anonymous wrote:I think the notion that white people are being oppressed by DEI to be absurd. However, the DEI world is also ridiculous the way it treats white people. I don't know what their goal is other than to create budding white nationalists. If you want people to join your cause maybe don't force them to spend hours listening to you bash them after telling them not to be "defensive" and to not "put the burden" on you by asking questions. Lol.
Your post is confusing. At first you say that white people aren't being oppressed by DEI. But then you spend the rest of your post laying out how white people are dumped on by DEI. Do you not see the connection?


An annoying, off putting training is not the same thing as oppression.
OK, so when they say they want to hire fewer white people and ignore what white people have to say, that's not oppression?


Since they currently hire a disproportionately high amount of white people and ignore BiPOC people, correcting that is not oppression


Are you serious? Ignored? Last time I checked, Americans of all colors have handed over mic, and agreed to listen to this continued barrage of insults, while investing millions in hiring start-up DEI companies to teach/implement unproven, experimental methods that so far, have only made systems less productive and toxic.

RE your comment on disproportionate hiring, what would be acceptable? You do know the stats of America, right? That more people who live here are white and exist, isn’t a direct attack on POC.

Try expanding your narrow view on the world. The level of self-absorption at play is sickening and destructive.


White people are in the minority in MoCo.
OK, now do: people in the US legally, with teaching degrees, who want to be teachers. Are white people in the minority of that group?


+1 This ^^^
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the notion that white people are being oppressed by DEI to be absurd. However, the DEI world is also ridiculous the way it treats white people. I don't know what their goal is other than to create budding white nationalists. If you want people to join your cause maybe don't force them to spend hours listening to you bash them after telling them not to be "defensive" and to not "put the burden" on you by asking questions. Lol.
Your post is confusing. At first you say that white people aren't being oppressed by DEI. But then you spend the rest of your post laying out how white people are dumped on by DEI. Do you not see the connection?


An annoying, off putting training is not the same thing as oppression.
OK, so when they say they want to hire fewer white people and ignore what white people have to say, that's not oppression?


Since they currently hire a disproportionately high amount of white people and ignore BiPOC people, correcting that is not oppression


Are you serious? Ignored? Last time I checked, Americans of all colors have handed over mic, and agreed to listen to this continued barrage of insults, while investing millions in hiring start-up DEI companies to teach/implement unproven, experimental methods that so far, have only made systems less productive and toxic.

RE your comment on disproportionate hiring, what would be acceptable? You do know the stats of America, right? That more people who live here are white and exist, isn’t a direct attack on POC.

Try expanding your narrow view on the world. The level of self-absorption at play is sickening and destructive.


White people are in the minority in MoCo.


Teachers do not have to live in moco.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the notion that white people are being oppressed by DEI to be absurd. However, the DEI world is also ridiculous the way it treats white people. I don't know what their goal is other than to create budding white nationalists. If you want people to join your cause maybe don't force them to spend hours listening to you bash them after telling them not to be "defensive" and to not "put the burden" on you by asking questions. Lol.
Your post is confusing. At first you say that white people aren't being oppressed by DEI. But then you spend the rest of your post laying out how white people are dumped on by DEI. Do you not see the connection?


An annoying, off putting training is not the same thing as oppression.
OK, so when they say they want to hire fewer white people and ignore what white people have to say, that's not oppression?


Since they currently hire a disproportionately high amount of white people and ignore BiPOC people, correcting that is not oppression


Have you looked at the populations at each mcps school? In many whites are the minority. And, you seem to lump all whites together in your hate and accusations and some had, most have nothing to do with it. Stop blaming others for your life choices and if you are unhappy do something about it.
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Anonymous wrote:I think the notion that white people are being oppressed by DEI to be absurd. However, the DEI world is also ridiculous the way it treats white people. I don't know what their goal is other than to create budding white nationalists. If you want people to join your cause maybe don't force them to spend hours listening to you bash them after telling them not to be "defensive" and to not "put the burden" on you by asking questions. Lol.
Your post is confusing. At first you say that white people aren't being oppressed by DEI. But then you spend the rest of your post laying out how white people are dumped on by DEI. Do you not see the connection?


An annoying, off putting training is not the same thing as oppression.
OK, so when they say they want to hire fewer white people and ignore what white people have to say, that's not oppression?


Since they currently hire a disproportionately high amount of white people and ignore BiPOC people, correcting that is not oppression


Are you serious? Ignored? Last time I checked, Americans of all colors have handed over mic, and agreed to listen to this continued barrage of insults, while investing millions in hiring start-up DEI companies to teach/implement unproven, experimental methods that so far, have only made systems less productive and toxic.

RE your comment on disproportionate hiring, what would be acceptable? You do know the stats of America, right? That more people who live here are white and exist, isn’t a direct attack on POC.

Try expanding your narrow view on the world. The level of self-absorption at play is sickening and destructive.


White people are in the minority in MoCo.
OK, now do: people in the US legally, with teaching degrees, who want to be teachers. Are white people in the minority of that group?


+1 This ^^^


Black teachers were fired en masse after desegregation of schools. White people have had government help to build wealth and get college degrees. But Black teachers are shown to be more effective for teaching Black kids. I get it, you just don't care. No worries,.many people do.
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Anonymous wrote:I think the notion that white people are being oppressed by DEI to be absurd. However, the DEI world is also ridiculous the way it treats white people. I don't know what their goal is other than to create budding white nationalists. If you want people to join your cause maybe don't force them to spend hours listening to you bash them after telling them not to be "defensive" and to not "put the burden" on you by asking questions. Lol.
Your post is confusing. At first you say that white people aren't being oppressed by DEI. But then you spend the rest of your post laying out how white people are dumped on by DEI. Do you not see the connection?


An annoying, off putting training is not the same thing as oppression.
OK, so when they say they want to hire fewer white people and ignore what white people have to say, that's not oppression?


Since they currently hire a disproportionately high amount of white people and ignore BiPOC people, correcting that is not oppression


Are you serious? Ignored? Last time I checked, Americans of all colors have handed over mic, and agreed to listen to this continued barrage of insults, while investing millions in hiring start-up DEI companies to teach/implement unproven, experimental methods that so far, have only made systems less productive and toxic.

RE your comment on disproportionate hiring, what would be acceptable? You do know the stats of America, right? That more people who live here are white and exist, isn’t a direct attack on POC.

Try expanding your narrow view on the world. The level of self-absorption at play is sickening and destructive.


White people are in the minority in MoCo.
OK, now do: people in the US legally, with teaching degrees, who want to be teachers. Are white people in the minority of that group?


+1 This ^^^


Black teachers were fired en masse after desegregation of schools. White people have had government help to build wealth and get college degrees. But Black teachers are shown to be more effective for teaching Black kids. I get it, you just don't care. No worries,.many people do.
I care about progressive attempts to discriminate against people today for the acts of people who shared their skin color 50 years ago.

And if what you said is true about black kids learning better from black teachers, it's clear that a greater effort needs to be made teaching black kids not to be so racist
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