Feel like I need to babysit my professors so I get my extra time accommodation

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Anonymous wrote:This may have more to do with my online classes, but why does this happen every semester? Every single semester for the last 3 years, this has happened. It's hard to know what regular time is and what time and a half is because it not always announced what is regular time. Sometimes, the professor will write you need to have 90 minutes for the final or something like that as a group email. I am in my last week now and I see that I didn't get extra time programmed for two of my finals this week. The exams are proctored. I will probably send a short email saying you probably didn't realize but I don't see extra time programmed for my final. The professor I am most worried about takes weeks to return emails. She also insists we address her as "doctor blah blah blah". :lol:

Start it this way: please forgive me for not contacting you before you scheduled exams…

Op this is absurd and not the way the student services told me it should be handled. It's an online class. She's not god. I have contacted her and cc'd student services earlier in the semester because even after reminding her it was still not programmed in on the day of my exam. Since it's an online class and exams are done online she needs to take it seriously because otherwise, I won't get the accommodation. I think it's ridiculous a grown adult needs to be reminded this much.

Yikes, Op.

First, even if you're completely correct, as you pointed out, it's you that suffers if she "doesn't take it seriously." In that case, it behooves you to make sure you get the accommodation, even if you feel like you shouldn't have to.

Second it's really something to hear, "I think it's ridiculous a grown adult needs to be reminded this much." from someone who is seeking an accommodation. The last of self-awareness is stunning.

She has already had to get student services involved previously in the semester because she didn't get extra time. I too think it's ridiculous the professor can't figure this out. Students are expected to be organized. Professors should be too. People who work in academia can't hack it in the real world anyway.

Maybe OP should figure out how to take the test in the allotted amount of time and then she won’t have to worry about the professor having trouble helping her.

That’s the real world you speak of.

When is the last time you took an exam in the real world?

Go back to your soap operas.

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Anonymous wrote:This may have more to do with my online classes, but why does this happen every semester? Every single semester for the last 3 years, this has happened. It's hard to know what regular time is and what time and a half is because it not always announced what is regular time. Sometimes, the professor will write you need to have 90 minutes for the final or something like that as a group email. I am in my last week now and I see that I didn't get extra time programmed for two of my finals this week. The exams are proctored. I will probably send a short email saying you probably didn't realize but I don't see extra time programmed for my final. The professor I am most worried about takes weeks to return emails. She also insists we address her as "doctor blah blah blah".

If it happens every semester, you should be reaching out to your school's disability office, not DCUM.

Also, when you email your professors, consider cc'ing your contact at the disability office.

Finally, sometimes being a woman is a disadvantage in academia. I understand your professor has an off-putting style, but it may be that she has learned that she is disrespected/underestimated less when she reminds people of her position. I'm a Ph.D. who usually goes by my first name, but definitely break out the Dr. in certain circumstances.

I am a young, junior faculty member who smiles a lot and is very energetic (elements that may undermine perceptions of my expertise). I ask my students to call me Professor X for this reason. I am sad to read they may be put off by it.

No, you are totally normal. The OP's attitude is not typical.

+1 The vast majority of posters recognize OP as being in the wrong here. Even posters like me who also needed to request accommodations in school.

The vast majority don't have reading comprehension. She didn't say anything about being off put by calling them professor. She said this particular professor makes a big deal about being called doctor instead of professor.

While also noting that her other professors go by their first name which she clearly thinks should be the norm. It is this latter element I was responding to.

She said she always addresses them by professor even when they ask to be called by their first name. I can see how they may mix it up since every professor prefers different things.

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Anonymous wrote:This may have more to do with my online classes, but why does this happen every semester? Every single semester for the last 3 years, this has happened. It's hard to know what regular time is and what time and a half is because it not always announced what is regular time. Sometimes, the professor will write you need to have 90 minutes for the final or something like that as a group email. I am in my last week now and I see that I didn't get extra time programmed for two of my finals this week. The exams are proctored. I will probably send a short email saying you probably didn't realize but I don't see extra time programmed for my final. The professor I am most worried about takes weeks to return emails. She also insists we address her as "doctor blah blah blah".

If it happens every semester, you should be reaching out to your school's disability office, not DCUM.

Also, when you email your professors, consider cc'ing your contact at the disability office.

Finally, sometimes being a woman is a disadvantage in academia. I understand your professor has an off-putting style, but it may be that she has learned that she is disrespected/underestimated less when she reminds people of her position. I'm a Ph.D. who usually goes by my first name, but definitely break out the Dr. in certain circumstances.

OP here. I did reach out to the disability department and I have done this many times. They don't seem to care. The student surveys seem to be important because all of my professors send tons of emails reminding me to do them. I know there was a lot of laughing going on after class when she insisted over and over again we call her Dr instead of professor. She got so worked up over it. I don't think people were doing it to be disrespectful. She came across as stuffy and treated some of us like idiots. She would send lots of emails with CAPS and !!!!!!! I should probably fill out the survey for her now.

You address her as she requests. Period. She earned her degree.

Sounds like a lot of professors are on here. Medical doctors are usually the only people who expect this unless professors are being introduced or something it's not normal to expect this.

The only people I know who act like this are unemployed wives of dentists and military. "You will address me by my husband's rank."

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.

Students at lower ranked colleges often call professors "teachers." Many of these kids see college as an extension of high school.

OP here. Maybe 2 year colleges. I'm unsure of what degrees are needed to teach at a community college, but I don't think they need a PhD.
She's very different from all of my other professors. Most of them are casual and say to call them by their first name. Some of my professor will sign emails as Dr. B but she's the first that came out and insisted over and over again to be called Dr.

So it’s not because you’re “disabled” that you can’t comply with the authority figure’s wishes in her own classroom, it’s just because you’re rude? What’s your “disability”? Because you just sound like a jerk; I didn’t know that was a protected class. You’re sooooo special.

Woah! While I agree that OP shouldn’t be getting bent out of shape over calling the prof dr, you are way out of line. You are talking to a college student who is likely between 18-22. They may be an adult, but they are still young and learning how the world works. I have a 19 and 21 year old and I would hope no adult treated them this way. How would you feel if someone spoke to your son or duaghter so disrespectfully? OP is asking for advice because they have a disability and their accommodations aren’t being granted. This is a legitimate concern.

Op here. Thank you. I volunteer with adults who have severe disabilities way worse than mine and I am so surprised at how rude people can be to them. They get annoyed with the ones who use walkers. Perhaps I didn't explain myself well in my first post. I don't mind calling my professors "professor ". I by default call them all professor and do not like using their first name even when they say it's fine. What happened with this professor is she's correcting students during lectures when they call her professor instead of a doctor. I think it got to the point where people were doing it on purpose after she got so upset in two classes. Most students have the haven't of using professor more than doctor.

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OP, has anyone ever informed you that the world does not revolve around you?

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OP: what would you like to see happen?

Provide a scenario. Once you have exactly what you want it will be much more straightforward. Right now you are just complaining about what didn't happen.

Also, the survey is important because professors of the sort you are taking a class from (ie "teachers" as you say) have contracts that are only renewed if most students fill out an evaluation and their ratings are sufficiently good. So this is important to her and also part of the way the school is trying to ensure you get a good teacher.

Finally, please take a look at what you are saying. 1. "the disability office is supposed to do X but doesn't" and 2. "the professor is the problem" Go talk to the disability office. This is important because even if it is not "exotic" your accommodation may present logistical hurdles with her schedule. For example, your time + one half may bleed into her next class, so arrangements would need to be made to have someone proctor the exam during that period. The professor simply can't do this part.

I hope as other posters have said that this is an opportunity for you to learn to advocate for yourself and to work proactively and positively to address your challenges. We each have them.

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NP, and I've read the entire thing.

OP this is your responsibility. Grow up and be an adult, and learn to advocate for yourself and do your own hard work. The world will not accommodate you forever.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.

Students at lower ranked colleges often call professors "teachers." Many of these kids see college as an extension of high school.

OP here. Maybe 2 year colleges. I'm unsure of what degrees are needed to teach at a community college, but I don't think they need a PhD.
She's very different from all of my other professors. Most of them are casual and say to call them by their first name. Some of my professor will sign emails as Dr. B but she's the first that came out and insisted over and over again to be called Dr.

So it’s not because you’re “disabled” that you can’t comply with the authority figure’s wishes in her own classroom, it’s just because you’re rude? What’s your “disability”? Because you just sound like a jerk; I didn’t know that was a protected class. You’re sooooo special.

Woah! While I agree that OP shouldn’t be getting bent out of shape over calling the prof dr, you are way out of line. You are talking to a college student who is likely between 18-22. They may be an adult, but they are still young and learning how the world works. I have a 19 and 21 year old and I would hope no adult treated them this way. How would you feel if someone spoke to your son or duaghter so disrespectfully? OP is asking for advice because they have a disability and their accommodations aren’t being granted. This is a legitimate concern.

DP. If my 18-22 year old adult child was still speaking and behaving like the OP, I would consider the types of responses here to be a valuable lesson for them in “how the world works”.

OP came here asking one thing and yes, she is getting A LOT of feedback she *did not* ask for… but that doesn’t make it less accurate or valuable, and if she would stop being so defensive and try to take some of it onboard, she might really learn from what she is being told and improve as a student, employee, and person.

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Anonymous wrote:This may have more to do with my online classes, but why does this happen every semester? Every single semester for the last 3 years, this has happened. It's hard to know what regular time is and what time and a half is because it not always announced what is regular time. Sometimes, the professor will write you need to have 90 minutes for the final or something like that as a group email. I am in my last week now and I see that I didn't get extra time programmed for two of my finals this week. The exams are proctored. I will probably send a short email saying you probably didn't realize but I don't see extra time programmed for my final. The professor I am most worried about takes weeks to return emails. She also insists we address her as "doctor blah blah blah".

If it happens every semester, you should be reaching out to your school's disability office, not DCUM.

Also, when you email your professors, consider cc'ing your contact at the disability office.

Finally, sometimes being a woman is a disadvantage in academia. I understand your professor has an off-putting style, but it may be that she has learned that she is disrespected/underestimated less when she reminds people of her position. I'm a Ph.D. who usually goes by my first name, but definitely break out the Dr. in certain circumstances.

I am a young, junior faculty member who smiles a lot and is very energetic (elements that may undermine perceptions of my expertise). I ask my students to call me Professor X for this reason. I am sad to read they may be put off by it.

No, you are totally normal. The OP's attitude is not typical.

+1 The vast majority of posters recognize OP as being in the wrong here. Even posters like me who also needed to request accommodations in school.

The vast majority don't have reading comprehension. She didn't say anything about being off put by calling them professor. She said this particular professor makes a big deal about being called doctor instead of professor.

While also noting that her other professors go by their first name which she clearly thinks should be the norm. It is this latter element I was responding to.

She said she always addresses them by professor even when they ask to be called by their first name. I can see how they may mix it up since every professor prefers different things.

That clarification was made after your reading comprehension post and may reflect a change of tone after reading the responses upthread.

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OP:

I recommend EVERY time you have a test in EVERY class, contact the professor 10 days in advance to remind them of your accommodation and to ask how long the test will be for the class so that you can calculate the additional time and free your schedule accordingly. Also ask whether they need to plan accordingly (for example if the exam is in a classroom and your accomodation takes you past the end of class, when another class will need the classroom). Again, do this for EVERY test in EVERY class. Create a form letter format so it's recognized that you will be doing this for each test.

And - you need to move beyond what you think of each professor because it's always the case that you need to adapt to whatever it is each professors want from you. It's their class and they are in charge of your grade. Who cares if you don't like them - you need the class and the grade. That's just life.

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Manage up. Duh. You are the one who is failing.

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Anonymous wrote:What type of job do we see someone like OP having in the future? Because I can guarantee her job performance will inspire the type of complaining (on the part of her future colleagues/customers) about disorganization and delay that she herself is engaging in regarding her professor.

I am studying Ecology and I am already working in my field. I get a long well with my coworkers. No issues and I absolutely love my job. I don't have issues turning assignments in on time in college or at work. I always completed assignments way ahead of time. Exams are a different story, but after college I won't have any more exams. Five minutes after I sent the email, which cc'ed student services, the professor programmed the extra time. She was able to do it in less than 5 minutes. I sent two other emails last Friday and yesterday to her, but the one I cc'ed this morning got the attention needed. Time to take the exam now. One more thing sounds like you don't like your career if you feel the need to be a bi**** online to strangers.

You go girl. We need more spunky women in the science field.

DP: Eh, not like OP. She sounds awful. Endless complaining, ridiculing her professor, acting entitled. I'm a woman in STEM and I don't want to work with her.

I am the “bi***” OP responded to. Also a woman in STEM and no way in hell would I want to work with her.

Of course you're a woman. Men aren't usually this catty or offended.

What does “catty” mean? Is that like when you complain about a (female) professor preferring to be called “Dr” rather than whatever you have decided to call them?

(Also, love your internalized misogyny!)

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Anonymous wrote:OP: what would you like to see happen?

Provide a scenario. Once you have exactly what you want it will be much more straightforward. Right now you are just complaining about what didn't happen.

Also, the survey is important because professors of the sort you are taking a class from (ie "teachers" as you say) have contracts that are only renewed if most students fill out an evaluation and their ratings are sufficiently good. So this is important to her and also part of the way the school is trying to ensure you get a good teacher.

Finally, please take a look at what you are saying. 1. "the disability office is supposed to do X but doesn't" and 2. "the professor is the problem" Go talk to the disability office. This is important because even if it is not "exotic" your accommodation may present logistical hurdles with her schedule. For example, your time + one half may bleed into her next class, so arrangements would need to be made to have someone proctor the exam during that period. The professor simply can't do this part.

I hope as other posters have said that this is an opportunity for you to learn to advocate for yourself and to work proactively and positively to address your challenges. We each have them.

No. She said the professors are supposed to have it together according to the disability office. They are supposed to be able to write out a list of who needs extra time and then grant it. It's not hard.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.

Students at lower ranked colleges often call professors "teachers." Many of these kids see college as an extension of high school.

OP here. Maybe 2 year colleges. I'm unsure of what degrees are needed to teach at a community college, but I don't think they need a PhD.
She's very different from all of my other professors. Most of them are casual and say to call them by their first name. Some of my professor will sign emails as Dr. B but she's the first that came out and insisted over and over again to be called Dr.

So it’s not because you’re “disabled” that you can’t comply with the authority figure’s wishes in her own classroom, it’s just because you’re rude? What’s your “disability”? Because you just sound like a jerk; I didn’t know that was a protected class. You’re sooooo special.

Woah! While I agree that OP shouldn’t be getting bent out of shape over calling the prof dr, you are way out of line. You are talking to a college student who is likely between 18-22. They may be an adult, but they are still young and learning how the world works. I have a 19 and 21 year old and I would hope no adult treated them this way. How would you feel if someone spoke to your son or duaghter so disrespectfully? OP is asking for advice because they have a disability and their accommodations aren’t being granted. This is a legitimate concern.

DP. If my 18-22 year old adult child was still speaking and behaving like the OP, I would consider the types of responses here to be a valuable lesson for them in “how the world works”.

OP came here asking one thing and yes, she is getting A LOT of feedback she *did not* ask for… but that doesn’t make it less accurate or valuable, and if she would stop being so defensive and try to take some of it onboard, she might really learn from what she is being told and improve as a student, employee, and person.

Easy for you to say. Half of the feedback here is that she's faking a disability. Anyone would be defensive.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.

Students at lower ranked colleges often call professors "teachers." Many of these kids see college as an extension of high school.

OP here. Maybe 2 year colleges. I'm unsure of what degrees are needed to teach at a community college, but I don't think they need a PhD.
She's very different from all of my other professors. Most of them are casual and say to call them by their first name. Some of my professor will sign emails as Dr. B but she's the first that came out and insisted over and over again to be called Dr.

So it’s not because you’re “disabled” that you can’t comply with the authority figure’s wishes in her own classroom, it’s just because you’re rude? What’s your “disability”? Because you just sound like a jerk; I didn’t know that was a protected class. You’re sooooo special.

Woah! While I agree that OP shouldn’t be getting bent out of shape over calling the prof dr, you are way out of line. You are talking to a college student who is likely between 18-22. They may be an adult, but they are still young and learning how the world works. I have a 19 and 21 year old and I would hope no adult treated them this way. How would you feel if someone spoke to your son or duaghter so disrespectfully? OP is asking for advice because they have a disability and their accommodations aren’t being granted. This is a legitimate concern.

DP. If my 18-22 year old adult child was still speaking and behaving like the OP, I would consider the types of responses here to be a valuable lesson for them in “how the world works”.

OP came here asking one thing and yes, she is getting A LOT of feedback she *did not* ask for… but that doesn’t make it less accurate or valuable, and if she would stop being so defensive and try to take some of it onboard, she might really learn from what she is being told and improve as a student, employee, and person.

Easy for you to say. Half of the feedback here is that she's faking a disability. Anyone would be defensive.

She was aggressive and clueless at the beginning and then defensive before any of that feedback.