Feel like I need to babysit my professors so I get my extra time accommodation

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Anonymous wrote:Professors are some of the laziest people. They should have done this at the beginning of the semester when they were emailed your accommodations by the disability dept. It's an online class so they don't have to spend time giving exams. It's outsourced to the proctored companies. They need to get it together.

Lazy as in demanding 50% longer than it's supposed to take to complete a task? Because I've never met a professor like that.

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Anonymous wrote:What type of job do we see someone like OP having in the future? Because I can guarantee her job performance will inspire the type of complaining (on the part of her future colleagues/customers) about disorganization and delay that she herself is engaging in regarding her professor.

I am studying Ecology and I am already working in my field. I get a long well with my coworkers. No issues and I absolutely love my job. I don't have issues turning assignments in on time in college or at work. I always completed assignments way ahead of time. Exams are a different story, but after college I won't have any more exams. Five minutes after I sent the email, which cc'ed student services, the professor programmed the extra time. She was able to do it in less than 5 minutes. I sent two other emails last Friday and yesterday to her, but the one I cc'ed this morning got the attention needed. Time to take the exam now. One more thing sounds like you don't like your career if you feel the need to be a bi**** online to strangers.

You go girl. We need more spunky women in the science field.

DP: Eh, not like OP. She sounds awful. Endless complaining, ridiculing her professor, acting entitled. I'm a woman in STEM and I don't want to work with her.

I am the “bi***” OP responded to. Also a woman in STEM and no way in hell would I want to work with her.

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Anonymous wrote:Professors are some of the laziest people. They should have done this at the beginning of the semester when they were emailed your accommodations by the disability dept. It's an online class so they don't have to spend time giving exams. It's outsourced to the proctored companies. They need to get it together.

Wow. You have no idea what professors do. I tailor my exams to what was emphasized in class, whoch often follows our discussions and student interest. So I'm often editing them until the exam day. We are not just set it and forget it but trying to support our students' learning outcomes. Opposite of lazy. And no, we don't outsource this to companies.

Excuses, excuses. Make a list and do your job.

DP: PP sounds like she's doing her job.

Having professors manage their hundreds of students' varying minor accommodation requests sounds like a ridiculous waste of professor time. Have the disability office turn on the function in the tech the moment they award the accommodation and then it follows the student every time they take an on-line proctored test. It sounds to me like the admin shove way too many things to professors whose main function is research and teaching not keeping track of things like this.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you need to be more proactive.

No. It sounds like the professors need to do their jobs. In a work situation, HR helps out with this. Employees don't have to visit their manager to remind them of an recurring accommodation. The college has a department that handles this for a reason. The professors should be more organized. They expect students to be organized, follow deadlines etc. Not only are they failing to follow deadlines but they are breaking the law by denying a time and a half accommodation. At the start of the semester they receive emails with accommodations and they can write a list of who gets extra time. It's not rocket science.

College prof here. I wish it were that efficient, but it's not. 20-25% of my students have accommodations, and what they need is not identical. Nothing is automated, and the students and I have to cooperate throughout the semester so that everything gets done in the right way. It takes strong resolve on my part to support the students and follow the law, but it also takes a bit of goodwill on both sides to ensure that the lines of communication stay open in case anything changes or goes wrong. Sometimes, for example, a student who has not used a certain aspect of their accommodations earlier in the semester decides to use them later, or vice versa. People with extra time are not required to take it - ever - so sometimes they will want to come into the classroom to take a test or quiz that they could have taken at the testing center. Sometimes I will discover that an accommodation being used inside the classroom works better outside of the classroom, and so will ask the student to take a test at the testing center instead if it is OK with them. It is a two-way flow that is intended to follow the law, give the student what they need to succeed, protect their privacy and their agency, and help them practice navigating so that they can be effective in school, the workplace, and beyond.

Thank you so much for your very thoughtful response.

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To be honest OP, I’m not sure what physical disability you could have with your hand that allowed you to take the SAT without accommodations and allows you to type freely on this message board all morning, but requires that you get time and a half in an online exam. You can clearly navigate typing online just fine. So my diagnosis is you’re a troll.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.

Students at lower ranked colleges often call professors "teachers." Many of these kids see college as an extension of high school.

OP here. Maybe 2 year colleges. I'm unsure of what degrees are needed to teach at a community college, but I don't think they need a PhD.
She's very different from all of my other professors. Most of them are casual and say to call them by their first name. Some of my professor will sign emails as Dr. B but she's the first that came out and insisted over and over again to be called Dr.

So it’s not because you’re “disabled” that you can’t comply with the authority figure’s wishes in her own classroom, it’s just because you’re rude? What’s your “disability”? Because you just sound like a jerk; I didn’t know that was a protected class. You’re sooooo special.

Woah! While I agree that OP shouldn’t be getting bent out of shape over calling the prof dr, you are way out of line. You are talking to a college student who is likely between 18-22. They may be an adult, but they are still young and learning how the world works. I have a 19 and 21 year old and I would hope no adult treated them this way. How would you feel if someone spoke to your son or duaghter so disrespectfully? OP is asking for advice because they have a disability and their accommodations aren’t being granted. This is a legitimate concern.

Op here. Thank you. I volunteer with adults who have severe disabilities way worse than mine and I am so surprised at how rude people can be to them. They get annoyed with the ones who use walkers. Perhaps I didn't explain myself well in my first post. I don't mind calling my professors "professor ". I by default call them all professor and do not like using their first name even when they say it's fine. What happened with this professor is she's correcting students during lectures when they call her professor instead of a doctor. I think it got to the point where people were doing it on purpose after she got so upset in two classes. Most students have the haven't of using professor more than doctor.

Why would any student call the Professor "Professor" if she indicated that she prefers to be called by her earned title of "Doctor"? She earned a Phd, while you can't even take a simple test. Give some respect. Your age is no excuse for this.

Because they mixed it up. Sheesh.

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Anonymous wrote:What type of job do we see someone like OP having in the future? Because I can guarantee her job performance will inspire the type of complaining (on the part of her future colleagues/customers) about disorganization and delay that she herself is engaging in regarding her professor.

I am studying Ecology and I am already working in my field. I get a long well with my coworkers. No issues and I absolutely love my job. I don't have issues turning assignments in on time in college or at work. I always completed assignments way ahead of time. Exams are a different story, but after college I won't have anymore exams. Five minutes after I sent the email, which cc'ed student services, the professor programmed the extra time. She was able to do it in less than 5 minutes. I sent two other emails last Friday and yesterday to her, but the one I cc'ed this morning got the attention needed. Time to take the exam now. One more thing sounds like you don't like your career if you feel the need to be a bi**** online to strangers.

So it took you 3 years to figure out that you need to email the professor, CC student services, and do it before the exam is scheduled.

Congrats, you finally got it!

Most students won't do this because it can come across as passive aggressive.
It's telling that a lot of middle-aged parents are getting off by being catty to an undergrad. Sickos. Guarantee all are women too.

How is self-advocacy passive aggressive?

These students are young. You don't remember being young? Going to a different department can be seen as passive aggressive. If enough students do it the professor is going to be a record of denying accommodations.

1. Again, that isn't what passive-aggressive means.

2. It is so obvious that OP is not ready for college. I know lots of high school kids. They could all figure this out. This kid has been so sheltered that she is not prepared for the world. Assuming she is 18, youth is not an excuse, but bad parenting in the hopes of "protecting" the child may be. So sad.

You're jumping to a lot of conclusions. She has already completed 3 years and has a merit scholarship. Dramatic much? Student services told her she shouldn't need to send the reminder emails so she probably took their advice. and didn't want to bug the professor.

Of course she has a merit scholarship. She had extra time on the SATs

Op here. I didn't get the extra time (it's usually time and a half) on the SAT. I could have asked for it but for whatever reason I didn't think it was allowed. I go to a state college. It's not the best college but I won't have debt so I am really happy about that. I have a physical disability with my hand since so many people are asking and thinking I am faking a disability. Some of you are very nasty towards people with disabilities.

I have children with disabilities. I'd be horrified if they posted a thread like this.

So you have a genuine disability and are entitled to accomodations. Your focus should be managing in the real world and developing marketable skills. The babysitting term really makes you seem entitled.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine going to a surgeon who says they need over two hours to perform a 90-minute procedure because of "surgery anxiety" or "ADHD". I'd be hightailing it out of there and finding a new surgeon.

I don't think surgeons have ADHD. They are a different breed. Imagine making fun of someone who has a disability. Oh wait that's you.

Lots of surgeons have ADHD and/ or anxiety. Are you joking? Medicine is one of the highest stress fields and sometimes requires that level of hyperfocus that ADHD allows in people.

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Anonymous wrote:What type of job do we see someone like OP having in the future? Because I can guarantee her job performance will inspire the type of complaining (on the part of her future colleagues/customers) about disorganization and delay that she herself is engaging in regarding her professor.

I am studying Ecology and I am already working in my field. I get a long well with my coworkers. No issues and I absolutely love my job. I don't have issues turning assignments in on time in college or at work. I always completed assignments way ahead of time. Exams are a different story, but after college I won't have anymore exams. Five minutes after I sent the email, which cc'ed student services, the professor programmed the extra time. She was able to do it in less than 5 minutes. I sent two other emails last Friday and yesterday to her, but the one I cc'ed this morning got the attention needed. Time to take the exam now. One more thing sounds like you don't like your career if you feel the need to be a bi**** online to strangers.

So it took you 3 years to figure out that you need to email the professor, CC student services, and do it before the exam is scheduled.

Congrats, you finally got it!

Most students won't do this because it can come across as passive aggressive.
It's telling that a lot of middle-aged parents are getting off by being catty to an undergrad. Sickos. Guarantee all are women too.

How is self-advocacy passive aggressive?

These students are young. You don't remember being young? Going to a different department can be seen as passive aggressive. If enough students do it the professor is going to be a record of denying accommodations.

1. Again, that isn't what passive-aggressive means.

2. It is so obvious that OP is not ready for college. I know lots of high school kids. They could all figure this out. This kid has been so sheltered that she is not prepared for the world. Assuming she is 18, youth is not an excuse, but bad parenting in the hopes of "protecting" the child may be. So sad.

You're jumping to a lot of conclusions. She has already completed 3 years and has a merit scholarship. Dramatic much? Student services told her she shouldn't need to send the reminder emails so she probably took their advice. and didn't want to bug the professor.

Of course she has a merit scholarship. She had extra time on the SATs

Op here. I didn't get the extra time (it's usually time and a half) on the SAT. I could have asked for it but for whatever reason I didn't think it was allowed. I go to a state college. It's not the best college but I won't have debt so I am really happy about that. I have a physical disability with my hand since so many people are asking and thinking I am faking a disability. Some of you are very nasty towards people with disabilities.

I have children with disabilities. I'd be horrified if they posted a thread like this.

So you have a genuine disability and are entitled to accomodations. Your focus should be managing in the real world and developing marketable skills. The babysitting term really makes you seem entitled.

This is not the real world. It's an online anonymous forum. Since her college told her she shouldn't have to send reminders for extra time I can see how confusing that would be for her. They shouldn't be saying stuff like that and there should be checks and balances put into place so a ton of students aren't emailing professors to program the extra time.

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Anonymous wrote:This may have more to do with my online classes, but why does this happen every semester? Every single semester for the last 3 years, this has happened. It's hard to know what regular time is and what time and a half is because it not always announced what is regular time. Sometimes, the professor will write you need to have 90 minutes for the final or something like that as a group email. I am in my last week now and I see that I didn't get extra time programmed for two of my finals this week. The exams are proctored. I will probably send a short email saying you probably didn't realize but I don't see extra time programmed for my final. The professor I am most worried about takes weeks to return emails. She also insists we address her as "doctor blah blah blah".

If it happens every semester, you should be reaching out to your school's disability office, not DCUM.

Also, when you email your professors, consider cc'ing your contact at the disability office.

Finally, sometimes being a woman is a disadvantage in academia. I understand your professor has an off-putting style, but it may be that she has learned that she is disrespected/underestimated less when she reminds people of her position. I'm a Ph.D. who usually goes by my first name, but definitely break out the Dr. in certain circumstances.

I am a young, junior faculty member who smiles a lot and is very energetic (elements that may undermine perceptions of my expertise). I ask my students to call me Professor X for this reason. I am sad to read they may be put off by it.

No, you are totally normal. The OP's attitude is not typical.

+1 The vast majority of posters recognize OP as being in the wrong here. Even posters like me who also needed to request accommodations in school.

The vast majority don't have reading comprehension. She didn't say anything about being off put by calling them professor. She said this particular professor makes a big deal about being called doctor instead of professor.

You must be the gal who can only “summarize the plot” a PP mentioned.

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Anonymous wrote:What type of job do we see someone like OP having in the future? Because I can guarantee her job performance will inspire the type of complaining (on the part of her future colleagues/customers) about disorganization and delay that she herself is engaging in regarding her professor.

I am studying Ecology and I am already working in my field. I get a long well with my coworkers. No issues and I absolutely love my job. I don't have issues turning assignments in on time in college or at work. I always completed assignments way ahead of time. Exams are a different story, but after college I won't have anymore exams. Five minutes after I sent the email, which cc'ed student services, the professor programmed the extra time. She was able to do it in less than 5 minutes. I sent two other emails last Friday and yesterday to her, but the one I cc'ed this morning got the attention needed. Time to take the exam now. One more thing sounds like you don't like your career if you feel the need to be a bi**** online to strangers.

So it took you 3 years to figure out that you need to email the professor, CC student services, and do it before the exam is scheduled.

Congrats, you finally got it!

Most students won't do this because it can come across as passive aggressive.
It's telling that a lot of middle-aged parents are getting off by being catty to an undergrad. Sickos. Guarantee all are women too.

How is self-advocacy passive aggressive?

These students are young. You don't remember being young? Going to a different department can be seen as passive aggressive. If enough students do it the professor is going to be a record of denying accommodations.

1. Again, that isn't what passive-aggressive means.

2. It is so obvious that OP is not ready for college. I know lots of high school kids. They could all figure this out. This kid has been so sheltered that she is not prepared for the world. Assuming she is 18, youth is not an excuse, but bad parenting in the hopes of "protecting" the child may be. So sad.

You're jumping to a lot of conclusions. She has already completed 3 years and has a merit scholarship. Dramatic much? Student services told her she shouldn't need to send the reminder emails so she probably took their advice. and didn't want to bug the professor.

Of course she has a merit scholarship. She had extra time on the SATs

Op here. I didn't get the extra time (it's usually time and a half) on the SAT. I could have asked for it but for whatever reason I didn't think it was allowed. I go to a state college. It's not the best college but I won't have debt so I am really happy about that. I have a physical disability with my hand since so many people are asking and thinking I am faking a disability. Some of you are very nasty towards people with disabilities.

I have children with disabilities. I'd be horrified if they posted a thread like this.

So you have a genuine disability and are entitled to accomodations. Your focus should be managing in the real world and developing marketable skills. The babysitting term really makes you seem entitled.

This is not the real world. It's an online anonymous forum. Since her college told her she shouldn't have to send reminders for extra time I can see how confusing that would be for her. They shouldn't be saying stuff like that and there should be checks and balances put into place so a ton of students aren't emailing professors to program the extra time.

In the real world, you get confusing messages all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:To be honest OP, I’m not sure what physical disability you could have with your hand that allowed you to take the SAT without accommodations and allows you to type freely on this message board all morning, but requires that you get time and a half in an online exam. You can clearly navigate typing online just fine. So my diagnosis is you’re a troll.

She presumably has two hands and there is text to speech. She could have something wrong with one of her hands or it could be dysgraphia. A lot of people don't take the SAT anymore by the way. She could have taken the ACT. I'm not sure if you can take the exams online now?

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It's so cute that this thread is full of people falling over themselves to make OP feel better by showing that fully grown adults are far less mature than OP.

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Anonymous wrote:This may have more to do with my online classes, but why does this happen every semester? Every single semester for the last 3 years, this has happened. It's hard to know what regular time is and what time and a half is because it not always announced what is regular time. Sometimes, the professor will write you need to have 90 minutes for the final or something like that as a group email. I am in my last week now and I see that I didn't get extra time programmed for two of my finals this week. The exams are proctored. I will probably send a short email saying you probably didn't realize but I don't see extra time programmed for my final. The professor I am most worried about takes weeks to return emails. She also insists we address her as "doctor blah blah blah".

If it happens every semester, you should be reaching out to your school's disability office, not DCUM.

Also, when you email your professors, consider cc'ing your contact at the disability office.

Finally, sometimes being a woman is a disadvantage in academia. I understand your professor has an off-putting style, but it may be that she has learned that she is disrespected/underestimated less when she reminds people of her position. I'm a Ph.D. who usually goes by my first name, but definitely break out the Dr. in certain circumstances.

I am a young, junior faculty member who smiles a lot and is very energetic (elements that may undermine perceptions of my expertise). I ask my students to call me Professor X for this reason. I am sad to read they may be put off by it.

No, you are totally normal. The OP's attitude is not typical.

+1 The vast majority of posters recognize OP as being in the wrong here. Even posters like me who also needed to request accommodations in school.

The vast majority don't have reading comprehension. She didn't say anything about being off put by calling them professor. She said this particular professor makes a big deal about being called doctor instead of professor.

While also noting that her other professors go by their first name which she clearly thinks should be the norm. It is this latter element I was responding to.

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I am studying Ecology and I am already working in my field. I get a long well with my coworkers. No issues and I absolutely love my job. I don't have issues turning assignments in on time in college or at work. I always completed assignments way ahead of time. Exams are a different story, but after college I won't have anymore exams. Five minutes after I sent the email, which cc'ed student services, the professor programmed the extra time. She was able to do it in less than 5 minutes. I sent two other emails last Friday and yesterday to her, but the one I cc'ed this morning got the attention needed. Time to take the exam now. One more thing sounds like you don't like your career if you feel the need to be a bi**** online to strangers.

So it took you 3 years to figure out that you need to email the professor, CC student services, and do it before the exam is scheduled.

Congrats, you finally got it!

Most students won't do this because it can come across as passive aggressive.
It's telling that a lot of middle-aged parents are getting off by being catty to an undergrad. Sickos. Guarantee all are women too.

That isn't what passive aggressive means. And, the true problem is that OP's parents did not prepare them for the real world. Throwing money way to get a degree that won't actually help because it required so many crutches is absolutely stupid.

A degree in a STEM field is never stupid. Try again. Extra time doesn't somehow give you the answers. Taking exams doesn't usually happen outside of college. She will be fine. She's already working in the field.

Yes, and as we all know no one ever has to make quick assessments and decisions doing their real grown up jobs. Tight timeframes are like, totally arbitrary, and like, just for pointless exams, amirite?