Feel like I need to babysit my professors so I get my extra time accommodation

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.

Students at lower ranked colleges often call professors "teachers." Many of these kids see college as an extension of high school.

OP here. Maybe 2 year colleges. I'm unsure of what degrees are needed to teach at a community college, but I don't think they need a PhD.
She's very different from all of my other professors. Most of them are casual and say to call them by their first name. Some of my professor will sign emails as Dr. B but she's the first that came out and insisted over and over again to be called Dr.

So it’s not because you’re “disabled” that you can’t comply with the authority figure’s wishes in her own classroom, it’s just because you’re rude? What’s your “disability”? Because you just sound like a jerk; I didn’t know that was a protected class. You’re sooooo special.

Woah! While I agree that OP shouldn’t be getting bent out of shape over calling the prof dr, you are way out of line. You are talking to a college student who is likely between 18-22. They may be an adult, but they are still young and learning how the world works. I have a 19 and 21 year old and I would hope no adult treated them this way. How would you feel if someone spoke to your son or duaghter so disrespectfully? OP is asking for advice because they have a disability and their accommodations aren’t being granted. This is a legitimate concern.

DP. If my 18-22 year old adult child was still speaking and behaving like the OP, I would consider the types of responses here to be a valuable lesson for them in “how the world works”.

OP came here asking one thing and yes, she is getting A LOT of feedback she *did not* ask for… but that doesn’t make it less accurate or valuable, and if she would stop being so defensive and try to take some of it onboard, she might really learn from what she is being told and improve as a student, employee, and person.

Easy for you to say. Half of the feedback here is that she's faking a disability. Anyone would be defensive.

Look at the title of her thread. She reeks obnoxiousness.

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Anonymous wrote:This may have more to do with my online classes, but why does this happen every semester? Every single semester for the last 3 years, this has happened. It's hard to know what regular time is and what time and a half is because it not always announced what is regular time. Sometimes, the professor will write you need to have 90 minutes for the final or something like that as a group email. I am in my last week now and I see that I didn't get extra time programmed for two of my finals this week. The exams are proctored. I will probably send a short email saying you probably didn't realize but I don't see extra time programmed for my final. The professor I am most worried about takes weeks to return emails. She also insists we address her as "doctor blah blah blah". :lol:

Start it this way: please forgive me for not contacting you before you scheduled exams…

Op this is absurd and not the way the student services told me it should be handled. It's an online class. She's not god. I have contacted her and cc'd student services earlier in the semester because even after reminding her it was still not programmed in on the day of my exam. Since it's an online class and exams are done online she needs to take it seriously because otherwise, I won't get the accommodation. I think it's ridiculous a grown adult needs to be reminded this much.

Yikes, Op.

First, even if you're completely correct, as you pointed out, it's you that suffers if she "doesn't take it seriously." In that case, it behooves you to make sure you get the accommodation, even if you feel like you shouldn't have to.

Second it's really something to hear, "I think it's ridiculous a grown adult needs to be reminded this much." from someone who is seeking an accommodation. The last of self-awareness is stunning.

She has already had to get student services involved previously in the semester because she didn't get extra time. I too think it's ridiculous the professor can't figure this out. Students are expected to be organized. Professors should be too. People who work in academia can't hack it in the real world anyway.

Maybe OP should figure out how to take the test in the allotted amount of time and then she won’t have to worry about the professor having trouble helping her.

That’s the real world you speak of.

When is the last time you took an exam in the real world?

Go back to your soap operas.

I’m a doctor and every patient exam room I enter is like an exam. They give me information and I have to figure out what’s wrong. And my practice schedules me for 4 an hour even if I claim to need extra time to come to a diagnosis and write a prescription.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.

Students at lower ranked colleges often call professors "teachers." Many of these kids see college as an extension of high school.

OP here. Maybe 2 year colleges. I'm unsure of what degrees are needed to teach at a community college, but I don't think they need a PhD.
She's very different from all of my other professors. Most of them are casual and say to call them by their first name. Some of my professor will sign emails as Dr. B but she's the first that came out and insisted over and over again to be called Dr.

So it’s not because you’re “disabled” that you can’t comply with the authority figure’s wishes in her own classroom, it’s just because you’re rude? What’s your “disability”? Because you just sound like a jerk; I didn’t know that was a protected class. You’re sooooo special.

Woah! While I agree that OP shouldn’t be getting bent out of shape over calling the prof dr, you are way out of line. You are talking to a college student who is likely between 18-22. They may be an adult, but they are still young and learning how the world works. I have a 19 and 21 year old and I would hope no adult treated them this way. How would you feel if someone spoke to your son or duaghter so disrespectfully? OP is asking for advice because they have a disability and their accommodations aren’t being granted. This is a legitimate concern.

DP. If my 18-22 year old adult child was still speaking and behaving like the OP, I would consider the types of responses here to be a valuable lesson for them in “how the world works”.

OP came here asking one thing and yes, she is getting A LOT of feedback she *did not* ask for… but that doesn’t make it less accurate or valuable, and if she would stop being so defensive and try to take some of it onboard, she might really learn from what she is being told and improve as a student, employee, and person.

Easy for you to say. Half of the feedback here is that she's faking a disability. Anyone would be defensive.

PP, she is now claiming that she has a hand injury that prevents her from taking tests but does not in any way prevent her from taking the SAT or doing her job timely. What are the chances that is true?

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Anonymous wrote:OP: what would you like to see happen?

Provide a scenario. Once you have exactly what you want it will be much more straightforward. Right now you are just complaining about what didn't happen.

Also, the survey is important because professors of the sort you are taking a class from (ie "teachers" as you say) have contracts that are only renewed if most students fill out an evaluation and their ratings are sufficiently good. So this is important to her and also part of the way the school is trying to ensure you get a good teacher.

Finally, please take a look at what you are saying. 1. "the disability office is supposed to do X but doesn't" and 2. "the professor is the problem" Go talk to the disability office. This is important because even if it is not "exotic" your accommodation may present logistical hurdles with her schedule. For example, your time + one half may bleed into her next class, so arrangements would need to be made to have someone proctor the exam during that period. The professor simply can't do this part.

I hope as other posters have said that this is an opportunity for you to learn to advocate for yourself and to work proactively and positively to address your challenges. We each have them.

No. She said the professors are supposed to have it together according to the disability office. They are supposed to be able to write out a list of who needs extra time and then grant it. It's not hard.

“Supposed to”, “supposed to”. Cars are also supposed to stop at red lights, my pharmacist is supposed to fill my meds within an hour, and my doctor is supposed to see me at exactly 330pm if that’s my appointment time. No one cares about your “supposed to” in the real world. Take matters into your own hands if you need to make absolutely sure that something happens the way it’s “supposed to” because in the real world, life isn’t always fair.

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Anonymous wrote:OP: what would you like to see happen?

Provide a scenario. Once you have exactly what you want it will be much more straightforward. Right now you are just complaining about what didn't happen.

Also, the survey is important because professors of the sort you are taking a class from (ie "teachers" as you say) have contracts that are only renewed if most students fill out an evaluation and their ratings are sufficiently good. So this is important to her and also part of the way the school is trying to ensure you get a good teacher.

Finally, please take a look at what you are saying. 1. "the disability office is supposed to do X but doesn't" and 2. "the professor is the problem" Go talk to the disability office. This is important because even if it is not "exotic" your accommodation may present logistical hurdles with her schedule. For example, your time + one half may bleed into her next class, so arrangements would need to be made to have someone proctor the exam during that period. The professor simply can't do this part.

I hope as other posters have said that this is an opportunity for you to learn to advocate for yourself and to work proactively and positively to address your challenges. We each have them.

No. She said the professors are supposed to have it together according to the disability office. They are supposed to be able to write out a list of who needs extra time and then grant it. It's not hard.

“Supposed to”, “supposed to”. Cars are also supposed to stop at red lights, my pharmacist is supposed to fill my meds within an hour, and my doctor is supposed to see me at exactly 330pm if that’s my appointment time. No one cares about your “supposed to” in the real world. Take matters into your own hands if you need to make absolutely sure that something happens the way it’s “supposed to” because in the real world, life isn’t always fair.

Adding to that "She said" .... The mantra of every university disability office I've ever encountered is always that the student needs to be a self-advocate and that it's their responsibility to get their accommodations (which is more than showing a form on the first day).

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.

OP here. Not true. They were all informed at the beginning of the semester by the disability department.
I also sent them another email in the first few weeks when it became clear I wasn't given extra time.
Insisting on students calling you doctor screams insecure. She put it in her syllabus, spoke to us the first and second class about it
and continued to remind people during lectures. My dad had a PhD. The only people who may refer to him as doctor as his coworkers or other work collogues he may be working on research with. I have heard students say professor during lectures but never Dr.

The Disability Office tells them you qualify for accommodations. Students have to request them specifically, since they may not want them for all classes or all assignments.

You act like you think you are superior to your college’s faculty (saying you have to “babysit” them??).

That is beyond obnoxious, and will definitely impede your ability to gain their cooperation, good recommendations, etc.

Wise up.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.

Students at lower ranked colleges often call professors "teachers." Many of these kids see college as an extension of high school.

OP here. Maybe 2 year colleges. I'm unsure of what degrees are needed to teach at a community college, but I don't think they need a PhD.
She's very different from all of my other professors. Most of them are casual and say to call them by their first name. Some of my professor will sign emails as Dr. B but she's the first that came out and insisted over and over again to be called Dr.

So it’s not because you’re “disabled” that you can’t comply with the authority figure’s wishes in her own classroom, it’s just because you’re rude? What’s your “disability”? Because you just sound like a jerk; I didn’t know that was a protected class. You’re sooooo special.

Woah! While I agree that OP shouldn’t be getting bent out of shape over calling the prof dr, you are way out of line. You are talking to a college student who is likely between 18-22. They may be an adult, but they are still young and learning how the world works. I have a 19 and 21 year old and I would hope no adult treated them this way. How would you feel if someone spoke to your son or duaghter so disrespectfully? OP is asking for advice because they have a disability and their accommodations aren’t being granted. This is a legitimate concern.

Op here. Thank you. I volunteer with adults who have severe disabilities way worse than mine and I am so surprised at how rude people can be to them. They get annoyed with the ones who use walkers. Perhaps I didn't explain myself well in my first post. I don't mind calling my professors "professor ". I by default call them all professor and do not like using their first name even when they say it's fine. What happened with this professor is she's correcting students during lectures when they call her professor instead of a doctor. I think it got to the point where people were doing it on purpose after she got so upset in two classes. Most students have the haven't of using professor more than doctor.

Perhaps this is a sore point for her because she is not a professor yet.

Is she an associate or assistant professor (the two lower academic ranks)?

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It is probably good that OP is graduating debt free because with her attitude it is going to be hard to hold down a job. Of course, OP strikes me as the type to scream discrimination and sue because she gets fired.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.

Students at lower ranked colleges often call professors "teachers." Many of these kids see college as an extension of high school.

OP here. Maybe 2 year colleges. I'm unsure of what degrees are needed to teach at a community college, but I don't think they need a PhD.
She's very different from all of my other professors. Most of them are casual and say to call them by their first name. Some of my professor will sign emails as Dr. B but she's the first that came out and insisted over and over again to be called Dr.

So it’s not because you’re “disabled” that you can’t comply with the authority figure’s wishes in her own classroom, it’s just because you’re rude? What’s your “disability”? Because you just sound like a jerk; I didn’t know that was a protected class. You’re sooooo special.

Woah! While I agree that OP shouldn’t be getting bent out of shape over calling the prof dr, you are way out of line. You are talking to a college student who is likely between 18-22. They may be an adult, but they are still young and learning how the world works. I have a 19 and 21 year old and I would hope no adult treated them this way. How would you feel if someone spoke to your son or duaghter so disrespectfully? OP is asking for advice because they have a disability and their accommodations aren’t being granted. This is a legitimate concern.

Op here. Thank you. I volunteer with adults who have severe disabilities way worse than mine and I am so surprised at how rude people can be to them. They get annoyed with the ones who use walkers. Perhaps I didn't explain myself well in my first post. I don't mind calling my professors "professor ". I by default call them all professor and do not like using their first name even when they say it's fine. What happened with this professor is she's correcting students during lectures when they call her professor instead of a doctor. I think it got to the point where people were doing it on purpose after she got so upset in two classes. Most students have the haven't of using professor more than doctor.

Perhaps this is a sore point for her because she is not a professor yet.

Is she an associate or assistant professor (the two lower academic ranks)?

A tenure track professor (asst/assoc) isn't going to have any "sore" points about this--it's impressive to be on the tenure track. Your idea may work more for adjuncts or term faculty who often feel neglected/disrespected in the higher ed system.

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Anonymous wrote:If my disability is that I have a low IQ, can I be given easier questions on exams and still get credit for passing the same classes as my normo-IQ classmates? I know this sounds snarky but I’m actually a little curious. If someone gets extra time because they can’t finish the test on time (and the results will be compared to the results of students who didn’t take extra time), can someone else also get different questions if their disability makes it hard for them to understand the original questions?

Obviously this is written from the standpoint of someone who has never personally dealt with individuals needing accommodations. You do realize that extra time is not the "gift" it appears to be. Extra time for someone with learning disabilities is extremely draining - that individual may take longer to just read a simple question that for others takes no time to read and process. Do that over a 2.5-hour window and see how you feel.

Right, but, let’s say I have read the novel for English class but I can’t synthesize the information the way my classmates can because of my learning disability. And the test is an essay discussing the motifs of the novel. But due to my brain chemistry I cannot understand and apply what a motif is. Can I just summarize the plot of the book instead? And get an A?

No.

They have to demonstrate the same competences as all of the other students. The teacher may come up with a different way of measuring the same thing, though.

Do you get it now?

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I have tried to ignore the attitude that went along with the original post, others have done a good job addressing that. The part I'm struggling with - is when you say this has been going on for 3 years and yet you seem surprised, once again that your accommodations for extra time are not being fulfilled. If you have the same accommodations, the same course management system and you primarily take online courses - then I have a hard time understanding how you haven't found a better way of managing this. Thanks to the helpful posters who described what some of this might entail - I do understand that the professor will likely need to initiate extended time and they might be delayed getting this done because of all of their professional obligations. Still, I would have thought you'd know this and be prepared to deal with this every time you had an upcoming exam. My college student has accommodations - he says each semester he checks in with the student services office and his professors. He marks his exam schedule on his calendar and then decides which exams he will request the extra time. He loops in the professor, and the student services to determine where, when and how the exam will be managed. It is a lot of work - but he said it's pretty easy once you know the steps to take.

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Anonymous wrote:You're going to have to advocate for yourself. At the beginning of the semester, introduce yourself - in person, not via email. Tell them you have accommodations from the disability office, because you need xyz. Be clear about it. Ask how you should navigate exams and assignments with them. Write it down as they tell you, because each professor might handle it differently, and you'll never remember who needs what when the time comes. Face to face is SO much better than email.

Also, learn to respect that there are allllll different types of professors (and bosses) out there, and just like you need them to accommodate your needs and preferences, you need to accommodate theirs, even if it seems silly to you. The more respectful you are of them, the more respectful they will be of you.

This really is your transition to the real world where there aren't deadline accommodations. That is a scary transition after public school when (in theory) they had to give you the support you needed. So the more you learn to advocate for yourself and come up with strategies to help get the work done, the better.

Re-read this post OP.

It contains a lot of good advice and they are trying to help you.

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Anonymous wrote:lol at this person complaining her professor is insecure for letting people she'd like to be called doctor after earning that degree

The professor lacks social skills. Professor and doctor mean the same thing.

They most definitely do not.

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Anonymous wrote:If my disability is that I have a low IQ, can I be given easier questions on exams and still get credit for passing the same classes as my normo-IQ classmates? I know this sounds snarky but I’m actually a little curious. If someone gets extra time because they can’t finish the test on time (and the results will be compared to the results of students who didn’t take extra time), can someone else also get different questions if their disability makes it hard for them to understand the original questions?

Obviously this is written from the standpoint of someone who has never personally dealt with individuals needing accommodations. You do realize that extra time is not the "gift" it appears to be. Extra time for someone with learning disabilities is extremely draining - that individual may take longer to just read a simple question that for others takes no time to read and process. Do that over a 2.5-hour window and see how you feel.

Right, but, let’s say I have read the novel for English class but I can’t synthesize the information the way my classmates can because of my learning disability. And the test is an essay discussing the motifs of the novel. But due to my brain chemistry I cannot understand and apply what a motif is. Can I just summarize the plot of the book instead? And get an A?

No.

They have to demonstrate the same competences as all of the other students. The teacher may come up with a different way of measuring the same thing, though.

Do you get it now?

Then why is there a time limit at all, if answering the questions within the allotted time isn’t one of the competencies ?

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Anonymous wrote:OP I agree that the professor sounds disorganized if they have not given you an accommodation for 4 or more exams this semester.
Did you confirm they received the request at the beginning of the semester?
I would agree with some of the posters who suggested you remind your professors a week before the exam to confirm they will provide your accommodations. Depending on the school, Professors might have a couple of hundred students with several requiring a variety of accommodations. While providing a letter at the beginning of the semester is the only thing you need to do, it is smart to remind your professors a week beforehand.
However, while you are well within your rights to complain about her not providing you with your accommodations, your griping about her title is a different matter.
Like it or not, there is a hierarchy in college. Professors need to establish their authority and asking students to address them a certain way seems like a simple way to accomplish order etc. A female professor might find it much harder to establish their authority and insisting on having students use a formal title might help. If students are repeatedly using other titles to refer to her, she might rightly believe that her students are not being respectful

Most professors don't ask to be called doctors. Not normal.

I’ve had professors ask to be called ‘Dr’. They earned it!