Barbie movie 'iconic' monologue is BS

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Anonymous wrote:I found the whole movie to be a big, ol’ sloppy mess with lots of starts and no finishes. I don’t get why they even had the America Ferrara part. It was tangential and superficial. She and her daughter have lost their connection and silly, white daddy doesn’t get either of them, but suddenly Barbie appears and they’re all bff. What was up with Mattel corporate knowing about Barbieland? And trying to keep it under wraps? It came off as an empty pathetic attempt at surrealism, it really it was pseudo intellectual nonsense. And don’t even get me started on the ghost of Ruth Handler. And why does it end with Barbie going to the Gyno? They might as well have played “I’m ever Woman.” Or did they?

What a mess! The movie wasn’t funny and it wasn’t deep! It was cheesy, heavy handed and basic!

I hated Ladybird too, so from now on, no matter how good the reviews are, I vow to avoid anything by Greta Gerwig. She is not my type!

After reading your comment, I can’t take your opinion seriously.

Because you were able to take the opinion of an anonymous stranger seriously before reading that comment?

You could have just said: I loved the movie and disagree with your opinion. But based on the unnecessarily convoluted way you expressed your simple opinion, I can see why you liked the Barbie movie and Greta Gerwig. She’s expresses herself just like you do.

You are fundamentally misunderstanding my comment, which is not unexpected. Not being able to take your earlier comment seriously is wholly unrelated to my opinion of the movie.

DP. I also fundamentally misunderstood your earlier comment. Because I also wondered “how would you know her opinion, never mind take it seriously, BEFORE reading her comment?”

I think that perhaps you just aren’t a very effective communicator. (Relax, it’s personal, not because you’re a woman!)

I think it’s a bot! It has to be!

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Anonymous wrote:I found the whole movie to be a big, ol’ sloppy mess with lots of starts and no finishes. I don’t get why they even had the America Ferrara part. It was tangential and superficial. She and her daughter have lost their connection and silly, white daddy doesn’t get either of them, but suddenly Barbie appears and they’re all bff. What was up with Mattel corporate knowing about Barbieland? And trying to keep it under wraps? It came off as an empty pathetic attempt at surrealism, it really it was pseudo intellectual nonsense. And don’t even get me started on the ghost of Ruth Handler. And why does it end with Barbie going to the Gyno? They might as well have played “I’m ever Woman.” Or did they?

What a mess! The movie wasn’t funny and it wasn’t deep! It was cheesy, heavy handed and basic!

I hated Ladybird too, so from now on, no matter how good the reviews are, I vow to avoid anything by Greta Gerwig. She is not my type!

After reading your comment, I can’t take your opinion seriously.

Because you were able to take the opinion of an anonymous stranger seriously before reading that comment?

You could have just said: I loved the movie and disagree with your opinion. But based on the unnecessarily convoluted way you expressed your simple opinion, I can see why you liked the Barbie movie and Greta Gerwig. She’s expresses herself just like you do.

You are fundamentally misunderstanding my comment, which is not unexpected. Not being able to take your earlier comment seriously is wholly unrelated to my opinion of the movie.

No, I didn’t misunderstand your comment. There was literally nothing to misunderstand. You wrote one sentence. It said, “After reading your comment I can’t take your opinion seriously.” There is nothing profound in that statement.

But let’s break it up if it helps:

1) “After reading your comment,”: you read my critique of Barbie and why I didn’t like it. (I can also assume that based on the fact you cut and paste the one and only comment I made up until that point on this thread.); and

2) “I can’t take your opinion seriously.” Now here is the guts, the area for misinterpretation. What could it possibly mean? It’s such a deep concept. Why is this stranger not taking my opinion seriously? Did I misrepresent myself to said stranger? Was I expecting my opinion to be accepted like that of a prophet?

The stranger says I misunderstand his/her enigma of a comment. He/she said it
“[was not unexpected,” so complex was the concept.

Seriously, are you high or something?

Oh, sorry - I didn’t mean to confuse you. What I meant was that I couldn’t take your opinion seriously because your earlier comment seemed like it was written by a 12-year-old. I see that you were able to tighten things up in your subsequent comment. Good for you!

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Anonymous wrote:I found the whole movie to be a big, ol’ sloppy mess with lots of starts and no finishes. I don’t get why they even had the America Ferrara part. It was tangential and superficial. She and her daughter have lost their connection and silly, white daddy doesn’t get either of them, but suddenly Barbie appears and they’re all bff. What was up with Mattel corporate knowing about Barbieland? And trying to keep it under wraps? It came off as an empty pathetic attempt at surrealism, it really it was pseudo intellectual nonsense. And don’t even get me started on the ghost of Ruth Handler. And why does it end with Barbie going to the Gyno? They might as well have played “I’m ever Woman.” Or did they?

What a mess! The movie wasn’t funny and it wasn’t deep! It was cheesy, heavy handed and basic!

I hated Ladybird too, so from now on, no matter how good the reviews are, I vow to avoid anything by Greta Gerwig. She is not my type!

After reading your comment, I can’t take your opinion seriously.

Because you were able to take the opinion of an anonymous stranger seriously before reading that comment?

You could have just said: I loved the movie and disagree with your opinion. But based on the unnecessarily convoluted way you expressed your simple opinion, I can see why you liked the Barbie movie and Greta Gerwig. She’s expresses herself just like you do.

You are fundamentally misunderstanding my comment, which is not unexpected. Not being able to take your earlier comment seriously is wholly unrelated to my opinion of the movie.

No, I didn’t misunderstand your comment. There was literally nothing to misunderstand. You wrote one sentence. It said, “After reading your comment I can’t take your opinion seriously.” There is nothing profound in that statement.

But let’s break it up if it helps:

1) “After reading your comment,”: you read my critique of Barbie and why I didn’t like it. (I can also assume that based on the fact you cut and paste the one and only comment I made up until that point on this thread.); and

2) “I can’t take your opinion seriously.” Now here is the guts, the area for misinterpretation. What could it possibly mean? It’s such a deep concept. Why is this stranger not taking my opinion seriously? Did I misrepresent myself to said stranger? Was I expecting my opinion to be accepted like that of a prophet?

The stranger says I misunderstand his/her enigma of a comment. He/she said it
“[was not unexpected,” so complex was the concept.

Seriously, are you high or something?

Oh, sorry - I didn’t mean to confuse you. What I meant was that I couldn’t take your opinion seriously because your earlier comment seemed like it was written by a 12-year-old. I see that you were able to tighten things up in your subsequent comment. Good for you!

I can’t say the same for you. You’re so condescending, but you couldn’t even articulate what you didn’t like about my first comment. (You can’t articulate period.)

I thought the Barbie movie was awful and I went into detail explaining why I didn’t like it. (It’s a mess, a lot of nothing. Anytime I see anything by Greta Gerwig, I feel like I’m hanging out with an annoying high school drama girl who laughs too hard at her own jokes and sleeps with the teacher to get the lead.)

If you’re going criticize my opinion with the unjustified tone of a professor, why don’t you ARTICULATE what you didn’t like about it. Instead of saying it sounded like it was “written by a 12-year-old,” describe what about it was immature. You can’t.

Thanks for the word of confidence about my ability to “tighten up” my writing Professor Nobody, but you can’t put two words together into a meaningful thought. How does someone as incoherent and disjointed as you have the audacity to appraise others?

It’s truly amazing. I think you must be a bot. There’s no other explanation. The only reason I’m responding to you is that I’m hoping there’s some data collecting program that will analyze reviews and maybe, just maybe producers won’t find anymore terrible Greta Gerwig films. It’s wishful thinking, but it’s all I can do.

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Op you need a hobby.

Also, watch fewer dumb movies.

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Anonymous wrote:I found the whole movie to be a big, ol’ sloppy mess with lots of starts and no finishes. I don’t get why they even had the America Ferrara part. It was tangential and superficial. She and her daughter have lost their connection and silly, white daddy doesn’t get either of them, but suddenly Barbie appears and they’re all bff. What was up with Mattel corporate knowing about Barbieland? And trying to keep it under wraps? It came off as an empty pathetic attempt at surrealism, it really it was pseudo intellectual nonsense. And don’t even get me started on the ghost of Ruth Handler. And why does it end with Barbie going to the Gyno? They might as well have played “I’m ever Woman.” Or did they?

What a mess! The movie wasn’t funny and it wasn’t deep! It was cheesy, heavy handed and basic!

I hated Ladybird too, so from now on, no matter how good the reviews are, I vow to avoid anything by Greta Gerwig. She is not my type!

After reading your comment, I can’t take your opinion seriously.

Because you were able to take the opinion of an anonymous stranger seriously before reading that comment?

You could have just said: I loved the movie and disagree with your opinion. But based on the unnecessarily convoluted way you expressed your simple opinion, I can see why you liked the Barbie movie and Greta Gerwig. She’s expresses herself just like you do.

You are fundamentally misunderstanding my comment, which is not unexpected. Not being able to take your earlier comment seriously is wholly unrelated to my opinion of the movie.

No, I didn’t misunderstand your comment. There was literally nothing to misunderstand. You wrote one sentence. It said, “After reading your comment I can’t take your opinion seriously.” There is nothing profound in that statement.

But let’s break it up if it helps:

1) “After reading your comment,”: you read my critique of Barbie and why I didn’t like it. (I can also assume that based on the fact you cut and paste the one and only comment I made up until that point on this thread.); and

2) “I can’t take your opinion seriously.” Now here is the guts, the area for misinterpretation. What could it possibly mean? It’s such a deep concept. Why is this stranger not taking my opinion seriously? Did I misrepresent myself to said stranger? Was I expecting my opinion to be accepted like that of a prophet?

The stranger says I misunderstand his/her enigma of a comment. He/she said it
“[was not unexpected,” so complex was the concept.

Seriously, are you high or something?

Oh, sorry - I didn’t mean to confuse you. What I meant was that I couldn’t take your opinion seriously because your earlier comment seemed like it was written by a 12-year-old. I see that you were able to tighten things up in your subsequent comment. Good for you!

I can’t say the same for you. You’re so condescending, but you couldn’t even articulate what you didn’t like about my first comment. (You can’t articulate period.)

I thought the Barbie movie was awful and I went into detail explaining why I didn’t like it. (It’s a mess, a lot of nothing. Anytime I see anything by Greta Gerwig, I feel like I’m hanging out with an annoying high school drama girl who laughs too hard at her own jokes and sleeps with the teacher to get the lead.)

If you’re going criticize my opinion with the unjustified tone of a professor, why don’t you ARTICULATE what you didn’t like about it. Instead of saying it sounded like it was “written by a 12-year-old,” describe what about it was immature. You can’t.

Thanks for the word of confidence about my ability to “tighten up” my writing Professor Nobody, but you can’t put two words together into a meaningful thought. How does someone as incoherent and disjointed as you have the audacity to appraise others?

It’s truly amazing. I think you must be a bot. There’s no other explanation. The only reason I’m responding to you is that I’m hoping there’s some data collecting program that will analyze reviews and maybe, just maybe producers won’t find anymore terrible Greta Gerwig films. It’s wishful thinking, but it’s all I can do.

NP - misogynist much?!?! Shocking you didn’t like the movie.

Also, your post is 💧💧💧 with condescension.

I thought the movie had issues, but I’m not going to attack the director as being unlikable because that’s what we’re fighting against.

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Anonymous wrote:I found the whole movie to be a big, ol’ sloppy mess with lots of starts and no finishes. I don’t get why they even had the America Ferrara part. It was tangential and superficial. She and her daughter have lost their connection and silly, white daddy doesn’t get either of them, but suddenly Barbie appears and they’re all bff. What was up with Mattel corporate knowing about Barbieland? And trying to keep it under wraps? It came off as an empty pathetic attempt at surrealism, it really it was pseudo intellectual nonsense. And don’t even get me started on the ghost of Ruth Handler. And why does it end with Barbie going to the Gyno? They might as well have played “I’m ever Woman.” Or did they?

What a mess! The movie wasn’t funny and it wasn’t deep! It was cheesy, heavy handed and basic!

I hated Ladybird too, so from now on, no matter how good the reviews are, I vow to avoid anything by Greta Gerwig. She is not my type!

After reading your comment, I can’t take your opinion seriously.

Because you were able to take the opinion of an anonymous stranger seriously before reading that comment?

You could have just said: I loved the movie and disagree with your opinion. But based on the unnecessarily convoluted way you expressed your simple opinion, I can see why you liked the Barbie movie and Greta Gerwig. She’s expresses herself just like you do.

You are fundamentally misunderstanding my comment, which is not unexpected. Not being able to take your earlier comment seriously is wholly unrelated to my opinion of the movie.

No, I didn’t misunderstand your comment. There was literally nothing to misunderstand. You wrote one sentence. It said, “After reading your comment I can’t take your opinion seriously.” There is nothing profound in that statement.

But let’s break it up if it helps:

1) “After reading your comment,”: you read my critique of Barbie and why I didn’t like it. (I can also assume that based on the fact you cut and paste the one and only comment I made up until that point on this thread.); and

2) “I can’t take your opinion seriously.” Now here is the guts, the area for misinterpretation. What could it possibly mean? It’s such a deep concept. Why is this stranger not taking my opinion seriously? Did I misrepresent myself to said stranger? Was I expecting my opinion to be accepted like that of a prophet?

The stranger says I misunderstand his/her enigma of a comment. He/she said it
“[was not unexpected,” so complex was the concept.

Seriously, are you high or something?

Oh, sorry - I didn’t mean to confuse you. What I meant was that I couldn’t take your opinion seriously because your earlier comment seemed like it was written by a 12-year-old. I see that you were able to tighten things up in your subsequent comment. Good for you!

I can’t say the same for you. You’re so condescending, but you couldn’t even articulate what you didn’t like about my first comment. (You can’t articulate period.)

I thought the Barbie movie was awful and I went into detail explaining why I didn’t like it. (It’s a mess, a lot of nothing. Anytime I see anything by Greta Gerwig, I feel like I’m hanging out with an annoying high school drama girl who laughs too hard at her own jokes and sleeps with the teacher to get the lead.)

If you’re going criticize my opinion with the unjustified tone of a professor, why don’t you ARTICULATE what you didn’t like about it. Instead of saying it sounded like it was “written by a 12-year-old,” describe what about it was immature. You can’t.

Thanks for the word of confidence about my ability to “tighten up” my writing Professor Nobody, but you can’t put two words together into a meaningful thought. How does someone as incoherent and disjointed as you have the audacity to appraise others?

It’s truly amazing. I think you must be a bot. There’s no other explanation. The only reason I’m responding to you is that I’m hoping there’s some data collecting program that will analyze reviews and maybe, just maybe producers won’t find anymore terrible Greta Gerwig films. It’s wishful thinking, but it’s all I can do.

NP - misogynist much?!?! Shocking you didn’t like the movie.

Also, your post is 💧💧💧 with condescension.

I thought the movie had issues, but I’m not going to attack the director as being unlikable because that’s what we’re fighting against.

I’m the PP. Lol, I’m a woman who works in a male dominated industry and am a single mom. I know what we’re up against. The Barbie movie sucked. It was an incoherent mess that lacked any cohesion. The only good part of it was the set design and the outfits. I wanted to start a drinking game for the amount of times the idiotic characters said “patriarchy.”

For the reasons I’ve previously stated, I hate every Greta Gerwig movie I see. She’s unfunny to me. I find her work to be annoying, overly dramatic and self-absorbed. So, I’ve made the personal decision not to see anymore.

Feel free to adore her. That’s your business, but disliking a director’s work doesn’t make me a misogynist. It just means I think she’s a bad director. Just because I’m a woman and she’s a woman, I’m going up give her a pass. I want to be entertained. I don’t care if the movie is directed by a green, one eyed alien as long as it’s good. This one sucked.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not that no woman is happy or that you can't be an imperfect woman. The monologue is mainly just about how the expectations for women are constantly contradictory, and this makes it hard ("impossible") to feel like you are meeting expectations because no matter what you do, it's wrong.

Like I'm a thin woman and in theory this means I'm meeting societal beauty standards, but here's a short list of body shaming things I've heard about my thin body: real women have curves, you can't be that thin without an eating disorder, eat a sandwich, itty bitty titty committee, flat a$$, men don't like a woman without a little meat on her, skinny women age faster. That's my reward for being thin. It's great!

Similarly, women are pretty much universally expected to want to be mothers and the social pressure to have kids is quite great, but the minute you become a mom it's like people are annoyed at you for being a mom. They roll their eyes at moms who speak up for their kids but they criticize moms who don't "do enough" for them. Working moms are told they don't spend enough time with their kids, SAHMs are told they are lazy. A mom who is involved at school is a busy body and "bored" but a mom who isn't involved at school clearly isn't invested in their kid's education. Meanwhile, no one ever asks a man if he's going to keep working after he becomes a dad, and people used to walk up to my husband at the grocery store when he was there alone with our DD to tell him what a great dad he was.... for doing something I did all the time and no one seemed to care (or they'd be annoyed with me for bringing my kid to the grocery store).

And regarding work, women are told that they must be assertive to be taken seriously at work, but there is STILL a "likability" cost to women for assertiveness. I do feel this one has gotten better and that it's better in some fields than others, but it does still happen.

So I don't agree with every aspect of that monologue, but the gist of it definitely felt true to me. It's not that it's impossible to be a woman, it's that it's impossible to meet societal expectations for women because they are full of contradictions, and this keeps women feeling like we are failing all the time even when we're doing pretty well.

you nailed it - its the constant tension of contradictory expectations that makes it tough to be a woman.

[Anonymous]

There were things I liked about it, but I thought this speech was stupid and pandering to women who came out of it feeling "heard." Its a doll. The movie was successful at increasing sales and made a lot of people re-think letting daughters play with girls toys. Good for them. It wasn't the empowering movie that many women think it was.

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Anonymous wrote:I found the whole movie to be a big, ol’ sloppy mess with lots of starts and no finishes. I don’t get why they even had the America Ferrara part. It was tangential and superficial. She and her daughter have lost their connection and silly, white daddy doesn’t get either of them, but suddenly Barbie appears and they’re all bff. What was up with Mattel corporate knowing about Barbieland? And trying to keep it under wraps? It came off as an empty pathetic attempt at surrealism, it really it was pseudo intellectual nonsense. And don’t even get me started on the ghost of Ruth Handler. And why does it end with Barbie going to the Gyno? They might as well have played “I’m ever Woman.” Or did they?

What a mess! The movie wasn’t funny and it wasn’t deep! It was cheesy, heavy handed and basic!

I hated Ladybird too, so from now on, no matter how good the reviews are, I vow to avoid anything by Greta Gerwig. She is not my type!

After reading your comment, I can’t take your opinion seriously.

Because you were able to take the opinion of an anonymous stranger seriously before reading that comment?

You could have just said: I loved the movie and disagree with your opinion. But based on the unnecessarily convoluted way you expressed your simple opinion, I can see why you liked the Barbie movie and Greta Gerwig. She’s expresses herself just like you do.

You are fundamentally misunderstanding my comment, which is not unexpected. Not being able to take your earlier comment seriously is wholly unrelated to my opinion of the movie.

No, I didn’t misunderstand your comment. There was literally nothing to misunderstand. You wrote one sentence. It said, “After reading your comment I can’t take your opinion seriously.” There is nothing profound in that statement.

But let’s break it up if it helps:

1) “After reading your comment,”: you read my critique of Barbie and why I didn’t like it. (I can also assume that based on the fact you cut and paste the one and only comment I made up until that point on this thread.); and

2) “I can’t take your opinion seriously.” Now here is the guts, the area for misinterpretation. What could it possibly mean? It’s such a deep concept. Why is this stranger not taking my opinion seriously? Did I misrepresent myself to said stranger? Was I expecting my opinion to be accepted like that of a prophet?

The stranger says I misunderstand his/her enigma of a comment. He/she said it
“[was not unexpected,” so complex was the concept.

Seriously, are you high or something?

Oh, sorry - I didn’t mean to confuse you. What I meant was that I couldn’t take your opinion seriously because your earlier comment seemed like it was written by a 12-year-old. I see that you were able to tighten things up in your subsequent comment. Good for you!

I can’t say the same for you. You’re so condescending, but you couldn’t even articulate what you didn’t like about my first comment. (You can’t articulate period.)

I thought the Barbie movie was awful and I went into detail explaining why I didn’t like it. (It’s a mess, a lot of nothing. Anytime I see anything by Greta Gerwig, I feel like I’m hanging out with an annoying high school drama girl who laughs too hard at her own jokes and sleeps with the teacher to get the lead.)

If you’re going criticize my opinion with the unjustified tone of a professor, why don’t you ARTICULATE what you didn’t like about it. Instead of saying it sounded like it was “written by a 12-year-old,” describe what about it was immature. You can’t.

Thanks for the word of confidence about my ability to “tighten up” my writing Professor Nobody, but you can’t put two words together into a meaningful thought. How does someone as incoherent and disjointed as you have the audacity to appraise others?

It’s truly amazing. I think you must be a bot. There’s no other explanation. The only reason I’m responding to you is that I’m hoping there’s some data collecting program that will analyze reviews and maybe, just maybe producers won’t find anymore terrible Greta Gerwig films. It’s wishful thinking, but it’s all I can do.

NP - misogynist much?!?! Shocking you didn’t like the movie.

Also, your post is 💧💧💧 with condescension.

I thought the movie had issues, but I’m not going to attack the director as being unlikable because that’s what we’re fighting against.

I’m the PP. Lol, I’m a woman who works in a male dominated industry and am a single mom. I know what we’re up against. The Barbie movie sucked. It was an incoherent mess that lacked any cohesion. The only good part of it was the set design and the outfits. I wanted to start a drinking game for the amount of times the idiotic characters said “patriarchy.”

For the reasons I’ve previously stated, I hate every Greta Gerwig movie I see. She’s unfunny to me. I find her work to be annoying, overly dramatic and self-absorbed. So, I’ve made the personal decision not to see anymore.

Feel free to adore her. That’s your business, but disliking a director’s work doesn’t make me a misogynist. It just means I think she’s a bad director. Just because I’m a woman and she’s a woman, I’m going up give her a pass. I want to be entertained. I don’t care if the movie is directed by a green, one eyed alien as long as it’s good. This one sucked.

NP. What movies and directors do you like?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There were things I liked about it, but I thought this speech was stupid and pandering to women who came out of it feeling "heard." Its a doll. The movie was successful at increasing sales and made a lot of people re-think letting daughters play with girls toys. Good for them. It wasn't the empowering movie that many women think it was.

+100

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Anonymous wrote:I found the whole movie to be a big, ol’ sloppy mess with lots of starts and no finishes. I don’t get why they even had the America Ferrara part. It was tangential and superficial. She and her daughter have lost their connection and silly, white daddy doesn’t get either of them, but suddenly Barbie appears and they’re all bff. What was up with Mattel corporate knowing about Barbieland? And trying to keep it under wraps? It came off as an empty pathetic attempt at surrealism, it really it was pseudo intellectual nonsense. And don’t even get me started on the ghost of Ruth Handler. And why does it end with Barbie going to the Gyno? They might as well have played “I’m ever Woman.” Or did they?

What a mess! The movie wasn’t funny and it wasn’t deep! It was cheesy, heavy handed and basic!

I hated Ladybird too, so from now on, no matter how good the reviews are, I vow to avoid anything by Greta Gerwig. She is not my type!

After reading your comment, I can’t take your opinion seriously.

Because you were able to take the opinion of an anonymous stranger seriously before reading that comment?

You could have just said: I loved the movie and disagree with your opinion. But based on the unnecessarily convoluted way you expressed your simple opinion, I can see why you liked the Barbie movie and Greta Gerwig. She’s expresses herself just like you do.

You are fundamentally misunderstanding my comment, which is not unexpected. Not being able to take your earlier comment seriously is wholly unrelated to my opinion of the movie.

No, I didn’t misunderstand your comment. There was literally nothing to misunderstand. You wrote one sentence. It said, “After reading your comment I can’t take your opinion seriously.” There is nothing profound in that statement.

But let’s break it up if it helps:

1) “After reading your comment,”: you read my critique of Barbie and why I didn’t like it. (I can also assume that based on the fact you cut and paste the one and only comment I made up until that point on this thread.); and

2) “I can’t take your opinion seriously.” Now here is the guts, the area for misinterpretation. What could it possibly mean? It’s such a deep concept. Why is this stranger not taking my opinion seriously? Did I misrepresent myself to said stranger? Was I expecting my opinion to be accepted like that of a prophet?

The stranger says I misunderstand his/her enigma of a comment. He/she said it
“[was not unexpected,” so complex was the concept.

Seriously, are you high or something?

Oh, sorry - I didn’t mean to confuse you. What I meant was that I couldn’t take your opinion seriously because your earlier comment seemed like it was written by a 12-year-old. I see that you were able to tighten things up in your subsequent comment. Good for you!

I can’t say the same for you. You’re so condescending, but you couldn’t even articulate what you didn’t like about my first comment. (You can’t articulate period.)

I thought the Barbie movie was awful and I went into detail explaining why I didn’t like it. (It’s a mess, a lot of nothing. Anytime I see anything by Greta Gerwig, I feel like I’m hanging out with an annoying high school drama girl who laughs too hard at her own jokes and sleeps with the teacher to get the lead.)

If you’re going criticize my opinion with the unjustified tone of a professor, why don’t you ARTICULATE what you didn’t like about it. Instead of saying it sounded like it was “written by a 12-year-old,” describe what about it was immature. You can’t.

Thanks for the word of confidence about my ability to “tighten up” my writing Professor Nobody, but you can’t put two words together into a meaningful thought. How does someone as incoherent and disjointed as you have the audacity to appraise others?

It’s truly amazing. I think you must be a bot. There’s no other explanation. The only reason I’m responding to you is that I’m hoping there’s some data collecting program that will analyze reviews and maybe, just maybe producers won’t find anymore terrible Greta Gerwig films. It’s wishful thinking, but it’s all I can do.

NP - misogynist much?!?! Shocking you didn’t like the movie.

Also, your post is 💧💧💧 with condescension.

I thought the movie had issues, but I’m not going to attack the director as being unlikable because that’s what we’re fighting against.

DP. Why is saying you don't like a certain director "misogynist" if that director is a woman? Oh, right - it's NOT. You are part of the problem, labeling any criticism "misogyny" if it's directed toward someone who is a woman. Women can be criticized, just as men can. Equality, remember that? Being a woman (or a POC, etc.) does not inure you from criticism. I don't care for several Greta Gerwig movies either - just like I'm not a fan of all Quentin Tarantino movies. Deal with it.

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Anonymous wrote:I found the whole movie to be a big, ol’ sloppy mess with lots of starts and no finishes. I don’t get why they even had the America Ferrara part. It was tangential and superficial. She and her daughter have lost their connection and silly, white daddy doesn’t get either of them, but suddenly Barbie appears and they’re all bff. What was up with Mattel corporate knowing about Barbieland? And trying to keep it under wraps? It came off as an empty pathetic attempt at surrealism, it really it was pseudo intellectual nonsense. And don’t even get me started on the ghost of Ruth Handler. And why does it end with Barbie going to the Gyno? They might as well have played “I’m ever Woman.” Or did they?

What a mess! The movie wasn’t funny and it wasn’t deep! It was cheesy, heavy handed and basic!

I hated Ladybird too, so from now on, no matter how good the reviews are, I vow to avoid anything by Greta Gerwig. She is not my type!

NAILED IT.

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Anonymous wrote:I found the whole movie to be a big, ol’ sloppy mess with lots of starts and no finishes. I don’t get why they even had the America Ferrara part. It was tangential and superficial. She and her daughter have lost their connection and silly, white daddy doesn’t get either of them, but suddenly Barbie appears and they’re all bff. What was up with Mattel corporate knowing about Barbieland? And trying to keep it under wraps? It came off as an empty pathetic attempt at surrealism, it really it was pseudo intellectual nonsense. And don’t even get me started on the ghost of Ruth Handler. And why does it end with Barbie going to the Gyno? They might as well have played “I’m ever Woman.” Or did they?

What a mess! The movie wasn’t funny and it wasn’t deep! It was cheesy, heavy handed and basic!

I hated Ladybird too, so from now on, no matter how good the reviews are, I vow to avoid anything by Greta Gerwig. She is not my type!

After reading your comment, I can’t take your opinion seriously.

Because you were able to take the opinion of an anonymous stranger seriously before reading that comment?

You could have just said: I loved the movie and disagree with your opinion. But based on the unnecessarily convoluted way you expressed your simple opinion, I can see why you liked the Barbie movie and Greta Gerwig. She’s expresses herself just like you do.

You are fundamentally misunderstanding my comment, which is not unexpected. Not being able to take your earlier comment seriously is wholly unrelated to my opinion of the movie.

No, I didn’t misunderstand your comment. There was literally nothing to misunderstand. You wrote one sentence. It said, “After reading your comment I can’t take your opinion seriously.” There is nothing profound in that statement.

But let’s break it up if it helps:

1) “After reading your comment,”: you read my critique of Barbie and why I didn’t like it. (I can also assume that based on the fact you cut and paste the one and only comment I made up until that point on this thread.); and

2) “I can’t take your opinion seriously.” Now here is the guts, the area for misinterpretation. What could it possibly mean? It’s such a deep concept. Why is this stranger not taking my opinion seriously? Did I misrepresent myself to said stranger? Was I expecting my opinion to be accepted like that of a prophet?

The stranger says I misunderstand his/her enigma of a comment. He/she said it
“[was not unexpected,” so complex was the concept.

Seriously, are you high or something?

Oh, sorry - I didn’t mean to confuse you. What I meant was that I couldn’t take your opinion seriously because your earlier comment seemed like it was written by a 12-year-old. I see that you were able to tighten things up in your subsequent comment. Good for you!

I can’t say the same for you. You’re so condescending, but you couldn’t even articulate what you didn’t like about my first comment. (You can’t articulate period.)

I thought the Barbie movie was awful and I went into detail explaining why I didn’t like it. (It’s a mess, a lot of nothing. Anytime I see anything by Greta Gerwig, I feel like I’m hanging out with an annoying high school drama girl who laughs too hard at her own jokes and sleeps with the teacher to get the lead.)

If you’re going criticize my opinion with the unjustified tone of a professor, why don’t you ARTICULATE what you didn’t like about it. Instead of saying it sounded like it was “written by a 12-year-old,” describe what about it was immature. You can’t.

Thanks for the word of confidence about my ability to “tighten up” my writing Professor Nobody, but you can’t put two words together into a meaningful thought. How does someone as incoherent and disjointed as you have the audacity to appraise others?

It’s truly amazing. I think you must be a bot. There’s no other explanation. The only reason I’m responding to you is that I’m hoping there’s some data collecting program that will analyze reviews and maybe, just maybe producers won’t find anymore terrible Greta Gerwig films. It’s wishful thinking, but it’s all I can do.

NP - misogynist much?!?! Shocking you didn’t like the movie.

Also, your post is 💧💧💧 with condescension.

I thought the movie had issues, but I’m not going to attack the director as being unlikable because that’s what we’re fighting against.

I’m the PP. Lol, I’m a woman who works in a male dominated industry and am a single mom. I know what we’re up against. The Barbie movie sucked. It was an incoherent mess that lacked any cohesion. The only good part of it was the set design and the outfits. I wanted to start a drinking game for the amount of times the idiotic characters said “patriarchy.”

For the reasons I’ve previously stated, I hate every Greta Gerwig movie I see. She’s unfunny to me. I find her work to be annoying, overly dramatic and self-absorbed. So, I’ve made the personal decision not to see anymore.

Feel free to adore her. That’s your business, but disliking a director’s work doesn’t make me a misogynist. It just means I think she’s a bad director. Just because I’m a woman and she’s a woman, I’m going up give her a pass. I want to be entertained. I don’t care if the movie is directed by a green, one eyed alien as long as it’s good. This one sucked.

NP. What movies and directors do you like?

I love films. Here are just a few off the top of my head:
Francis Ford Coppola (The Godfather), Sofia Coppola (Lost in Translation, The Virgin Suicides), Woody Allen (Annie Hall, Hannah and Her Sisters, Midnight in Paris), anything Stanley Kubrick, anything Amy Heckerling but especially Clueless, Nora Ephron (When Harry Met Sally, Sleepless in Seattle), Quentin Tarantino (Pulp Fiction), anything by the Coen Brothers but especially Raising Arizona, Wes Anderson (Rushmore, Moonrise Kingdom), Fellini (8 and a Half, Divorce Italian Style), Hitchcock (Rear Window, North by Northwest), Jordan Peele (Get Out), Roman Polanski (Rosemary’s Baby)….

Actually, I can go on and on, so I’ll stop. But one more shout out to “The Menu” which was one of the funniest movies I’ve seen in a long, long time. I can think of a lot of wonderful movies by a lot of very talented directors. The Barbie film and Greta Gerwig are not among them. In fact, I liked Noah Baumbach’s films much better before he started “collaborating” with Greta, too.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was on point, OP.

Audiences may not have realized it, but the movie's entire goal is to show that Barbieland's matriarchy is just as stifling as the real world's patriarchy. That we have not yet found any way of living as equals, and may never do so. That some minority populations (Allan, weird Barbie, etc) will never find their place.

The conclusion is quite dark, actually, but because it's all wrapped in pink and smiles, a lot of people missed it.

The whole point of feminism was never equality. It has always been supremacy.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was on point, OP.

Audiences may not have realized it, but the movie's entire goal is to show that Barbieland's matriarchy is just as stifling as the real world's patriarchy. That we have not yet found any way of living as equals, and may never do so. That some minority populations (Allan, weird Barbie, etc) will never find their place.

The conclusion is quite dark, actually, but because it's all wrapped in pink and smiles, a lot of people missed it.

The whole point of feminism was never equality. It has always been supremacy.

Triggered much?