Where do the people in the $6/7/8m+ mansions in send their kids?

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Anonymous wrote:There are so many privates in moco/dc! Which ones have the wealthiest populations?

STA, NCS, and Beauvoir has the most. I will also say the wealthiest people I know don't live in 10 million dollar homes. Rather they live in nice homes but have several ie: summer home, winter home, etc.... In fact one of the wealthiest families I know at one of these schools lives in a home less than 2 million. They keep under the radar but there is a lot of family money there.

This. While a few families have enough to have 10 million places all over, or are willing to be heavily invested in real estate (at least one has to be true), most would rather have 2-3 million dollar properties in 2-3 places, and then to have investments outside of real estate.

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Lots of public schools. If smart, they know the danger of keeping the kids in a bubble.

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Anonymous wrote:Among DMV privates, Sidwell probably has one of the wealthiest student bodies. Sidwell’s tuition is one of the most expensive in the area, yet only 21% of the families receive financial aid. Many of Sidwell’s financial aid recipients are recruited athletes.

Sidwell costs the same as the other Big 3, so that’s sortof a silly distinction. And basically the same as all the other non-Catholic schools in that cohort (Landon, Holton, Potomac, Maret, GDS, etc.). I’d bet my life that no full pay family has ever decided between these schools based on the negligible tuition differences.

And, these other schools have the same recruited athlete phenomenon, so I don’t think that you can conclude that therefore The Richest DC Families Go To Sidwell.

I’m very curious about your statement that the financial aid is going to recruited athletes at Sidwell. That assumption — and I’m guessing that you don’t actually know — strikes me as a really bad one. I mean, maybe for basketball? But, athletes tend to already be semi-rich kids. Look at the families spending $$$ on private lessons, expensive travel clubs, hotels and airfare all over the country. These are not the poor chickens at our school.

You clearly don’t like Sidwell, but that’s not my problem. You also shouldn’t allow your opinions and emotions to interfere with facts.

“Sidwell costs the same as the other Big 3…”

2023-24 Tuition:
St. Albans (Day School): $55,468
Sidwell: (Grades 9-12): $55,140
NCS: $53,210
GDS (Grades 9-11): $51,325
It is also a FACT that no other “Big 3” provides less need based financial aid than Sidwell (NCS ties Sidwell at 21%).

“Other schools have the same recruited athlete phenomenon…”

Really? Which athletic state championships have GDS, STA and NCS won within the past 5 years? How many of their athletic teams have been NATIONALLY ranked within the past 5 years? How many professional athletes have those schools produced?

“I’m very curious about your statement that the financial aid is going to recruited athletes at Sidwell.”

First, I didn’t say ONLY recruited athletes receive financial aid. My (non-recruited athlete) daughter plays two varsity sports at Sidwell. She’s friends/acquaintances with many athletes across multiple sports. There are only a handful of new recruited athletes for most of Sidwell’s sports each year…and students talk. My daughter has been told, DIRECTLY, by several sports recruits (across multiple sports), that they’re receiving financial aid. I guess those students don’t think it’s some sort of shameful secret, as you clearly do.

The athlete fight is also totally weird. I’m sure we’ll hear from all the STA folks about their famous athletes and Landon and whomever else. Listen, the idea that Sidwell is some sort of athletic powerhouse like the catholic school —ok, ok basketball—is just not what most people think about your school.

NP. Sidwell is also a powerhouse in tennis. Specifically, girls tennis. This year, both the JV and Varsity girls tennis teams are undefeated.

This is from Sidwell’s website:

“The girls' varsity tennis team has become one of the top programs in the ISL AA Division, winning back-to-back-to-back regular season and tournament banners in 2019, 2021, and 2022. The team also won DCSAA DC State Titles in 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2023. Over the last four seasons, the team has compiled an overall record of 50-1 and has been ranked in the Top 5 in the High School National Team Rankings by Universal Tennis (UTR).”

Sidwell’s girls’ tennis team is now the second-ranked tennis team in the country, according to Universal Tennis.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/10/26/sidwell-friends-girls-isl-tennis/

It's not a team.
The top players choose Sidwell precisely so they can LEAVE the school at lunchtime to go train elsewhere. They don't go to Sidwell to get better, they go because the school allows them to skip practice and get actual training from real high performance coaches. They just show up for matches. Hardly a team.

Your comments don't match our child's experience either. Friends on tennis team stay the full day and are full fledged classmates and teammates. I've also seen them attending sporting events to support their friends.

Do they practice daily with the team?

I don’t know if they “practice daily with the team,” but I know they practice fairly regularly together. How do I know? Because I’m an actual Sidwell parent and I see them practicing when I’m on campus for my child’s soccer games (and when picking up after practice). One of the soccer fields is adjacent to the tennis courts.

Btw, daily practice together isn’t required for them to be considered a team. They practice together regularly, they’re coached by the same two coaches, they consider/call themselves a team, and they are considered a team by the larger society (i.e., the ISL, other school tennis teams, and according to this article, the Washington Post).

You don’t have to like or support Sidwell’s varsity girls tennis team, but just like all the other Sidwell haters, YOU.WILL.DEAL.

How regularly? Specify days and times.

1. Regularly enough to have a 56-0 record;
2. Regularly enough to win a fourth straight ISL championship title; and
3. Regularly enough to be the second-ranked tennis team in the country.

Any school can attempt to do what Sidwell has done to build its girls tennis team into a national powerhouse. You’re just upset that Sidwell has actually done it. You’re also upset that Sidwell is so good at so many things. Don’t be mad, just do better.

I would assume the very top tennis players are at IMG or on the junior pro/pro circuit and homeschool. Has any Sidwell tennis player gone pro and gotten a decent ranking?

I mean the top HS boy's or girl's soccer team in the country is not really the top team considering so many of the top soccer recruits are on academy teams and not allowed to play for their high schools.

Life is about choices. Not every top tennis player wants to sacrifice their childhood by moving to Florida to attend a pre-professional sports academy.

Top tennis students who don’t want that joyless grind may choose a school like Sidwell. They get to be a normal student with a normal childhood, compete in their sport, and hone their craft.

Some of these girls may want to be professional tennis players. However, others may just want to be recruited to play at a top university. Then, they may pursue a successful career in sports medicine, business, law, etc.

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Wait, a student who does not want a joyless grind would choose sidwell? I thought you were describing sidwell.

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell recruits kids for varsity tennis, especially in 9th grade. Two of the top four girls on the team came in as freshmen this year. They were already established players in the section and joined the team to keep its impressive stats.

The point is that other schools don’t follow the same practice, or at least not to the same extent.

St John's does.

This is not something new in the world of high school sports. Some schools do it, some don't - some do it just for certain sports. Sidwell does it for tennis and basketball. Other schools do it for lacrosse, or whatever.... It's life. If you don't like it, choose a school that doesn't have sports teams or one that doesn't recruit for sports.

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Anonymous wrote:Boarding school if they want the very best for their child.

Private day school if they really love (and like) their child.

Spoken like someone who has no knowledge of boardings school, or is jealous because they aren't willing to spend that much money for their children to have a superior experience.

Superior, how? 🙄

No, spoken like someone who loves her children and actually enjoys spending time with them. My children have attended a “Big 3” since kindergarten. Money and/or jealousy isn’t the issue.

Btw, I’ll send my children to “boarding school” when they’re 18. It’s called college. I’m in no rush…unlike you.

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Anonymous wrote:Among DMV privates, Sidwell probably has one of the wealthiest student bodies. Sidwell’s tuition is one of the most expensive in the area, yet only 21% of the families receive financial aid. Many of Sidwell’s financial aid recipients are recruited athletes.

Sidwell costs the same as the other Big 3, so that’s sortof a silly distinction. And basically the same as all the other non-Catholic schools in that cohort (Landon, Holton, Potomac, Maret, GDS, etc.). I’d bet my life that no full pay family has ever decided between these schools based on the negligible tuition differences.

And, these other schools have the same recruited athlete phenomenon, so I don’t think that you can conclude that therefore The Richest DC Families Go To Sidwell.

I’m very curious about your statement that the financial aid is going to recruited athletes at Sidwell. That assumption — and I’m guessing that you don’t actually know — strikes me as a really bad one. I mean, maybe for basketball? But, athletes tend to already be semi-rich kids. Look at the families spending $$$ on private lessons, expensive travel clubs, hotels and airfare all over the country. These are not the poor chickens at our school.

You clearly don’t like Sidwell, but that’s not my problem. You also shouldn’t allow your opinions and emotions to interfere with facts.

“Sidwell costs the same as the other Big 3…”

2023-24 Tuition:
St. Albans (Day School): $55,468
Sidwell: (Grades 9-12): $55,140
NCS: $53,210
GDS (Grades 9-11): $51,325
It is also a FACT that no other “Big 3” provides less need based financial aid than Sidwell (NCS ties Sidwell at 21%).

“Other schools have the same recruited athlete phenomenon…”

Really? Which athletic state championships have GDS, STA and NCS won within the past 5 years? How many of their athletic teams have been NATIONALLY ranked within the past 5 years? How many professional athletes have those schools produced?

“I’m very curious about your statement that the financial aid is going to recruited athletes at Sidwell.”

First, I didn’t say ONLY recruited athletes receive financial aid. My (non-recruited athlete) daughter plays two varsity sports at Sidwell. She’s friends/acquaintances with many athletes across multiple sports. There are only a handful of new recruited athletes for most of Sidwell’s sports each year…and students talk. My daughter has been told, DIRECTLY, by several sports recruits (across multiple sports), that they’re receiving financial aid. I guess those students don’t think it’s some sort of shameful secret, as you clearly do.

The athlete fight is also totally weird. I’m sure we’ll hear from all the STA folks about their famous athletes and Landon and whomever else. Listen, the idea that Sidwell is some sort of athletic powerhouse like the catholic school —ok, ok basketball—is just not what most people think about your school.

NP. Sidwell is also a powerhouse in tennis. Specifically, girls tennis. This year, both the JV and Varsity girls tennis teams are undefeated.

This is from Sidwell’s website:

“The girls' varsity tennis team has become one of the top programs in the ISL AA Division, winning back-to-back-to-back regular season and tournament banners in 2019, 2021, and 2022. The team also won DCSAA DC State Titles in 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2023. Over the last four seasons, the team has compiled an overall record of 50-1 and has been ranked in the Top 5 in the High School National Team Rankings by Universal Tennis (UTR).”

Sidwell’s girls’ tennis team is now the second-ranked tennis team in the country, according to Universal Tennis.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/10/26/sidwell-friends-girls-isl-tennis/

It's not a team.
The top players choose Sidwell precisely so they can LEAVE the school at lunchtime to go train elsewhere. They don't go to Sidwell to get better, they go because the school allows them to skip practice and get actual training from real high performance coaches. They just show up for matches. Hardly a team.

Your comments don't match our child's experience either. Friends on tennis team stay the full day and are full fledged classmates and teammates. I've also seen them attending sporting events to support their friends.

Do they practice daily with the team?

I don’t know if they “practice daily with the team,” but I know they practice fairly regularly together. How do I know? Because I’m an actual Sidwell parent and I see them practicing when I’m on campus for my child’s soccer games (and when picking up after practice). One of the soccer fields is adjacent to the tennis courts.

Btw, daily practice together isn’t required for them to be considered a team. They practice together regularly, they’re coached by the same two coaches, they consider/call themselves a team, and they are considered a team by the larger society (i.e., the ISL, other school tennis teams, and according to this article, the Washington Post).

You don’t have to like or support Sidwell’s varsity girls tennis team, but just like all the other Sidwell haters, YOU.WILL.DEAL.

How regularly? Specify days and times.

1. Regularly enough to have a 56-0 record;
2. Regularly enough to win a fourth straight ISL championship title; and
3. Regularly enough to be the second-ranked tennis team in the country.

Any school can attempt to do what Sidwell has done to build its girls tennis team into a national powerhouse. You’re just upset that Sidwell has actually done it. You’re also upset that Sidwell is so good at so many things. Don’t be mad, just do better.

I would assume the very top tennis players are at IMG or on the junior pro/pro circuit and homeschool. Has any Sidwell tennis player gone pro and gotten a decent ranking?

I mean the top HS boy's or girl's soccer team in the country is not really the top team considering so many of the top soccer recruits are on academy teams and not allowed to play for their high schools.

Life is about choices. Not every top tennis player wants to sacrifice their childhood by moving to Florida to attend a pre-professional sports academy.

Top tennis students who don’t want that joyless grind may choose a school like Sidwell. They get to be a normal student with a normal childhood, compete in their sport, and hone their craft.

Some of these girls may want to be professional tennis players. However, others may just want to be recruited to play at a top university. Then, they may pursue a successful career in sports medicine, business, law, etc.

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Wait, a student who does not want a joyless grind would choose sidwell? I thought you were describing sidwell.

You thought wrong, Sidwell hater.
Worry about your child’s education at Bullis, Flint Hill, or Burke.

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell recruits kids for varsity tennis, especially in 9th grade. Two of the top four girls on the team came in as freshmen this year. They were already established players in the section and joined the team to keep its impressive stats.

The point is that other schools don’t follow the same practice, or at least not to the same extent.

St John's does.

This is not something new in the world of high school sports. Some schools do it, some don't - some do it just for certain sports. Sidwell does it for tennis and basketball. Other schools do it for lacrosse, or whatever.... It's life. If you don't like it, choose a school that doesn't have sports teams or one that doesn't recruit for sports.

I meant other schools of the same academic caliber.

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell recruits kids for varsity tennis, especially in 9th grade. Two of the top four girls on the team came in as freshmen this year. They were already established players in the section and joined the team to keep its impressive stats.

The point is that other schools don’t follow the same practice, or at least not to the same extent.

St John's does.

This is not something new in the world of high school sports. Some schools do it, some don't - some do it just for certain sports. Sidwell does it for tennis and basketball. Other schools do it for lacrosse, or whatever.... It's life. If you don't like it, choose a school that doesn't have sports teams or one that doesn't recruit for sports.

Based on many of these posts, no one cares if SJC, Gonzaga, or other schools recruit for various sports. It’s only a problem if Sidwell does it.

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell recruits kids for varsity tennis, especially in 9th grade. Two of the top four girls on the team came in as freshmen this year. They were already established players in the section and joined the team to keep its impressive stats.

The point is that other schools don’t follow the same practice, or at least not to the same extent.

St John's does.

This is not something new in the world of high school sports. Some schools do it, some don't - some do it just for certain sports. Sidwell does it for tennis and basketball. Other schools do it for lacrosse, or whatever.... It's life. If you don't like it, choose a school that doesn't have sports teams or one that doesn't recruit for sports.

I meant other schools of the same academic caliber.

That’s my point. It’s as if schools are only allowed to be superior in one area—academics OR sports. The prevailing sentiment seems to be, “ how dare Sidwell excel in both areas!”

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell recruits kids for varsity tennis, especially in 9th grade. Two of the top four girls on the team came in as freshmen this year. They were already established players in the section and joined the team to keep its impressive stats.

The point is that other schools don’t follow the same practice, or at least not to the same extent.

St John's does.

This is not something new in the world of high school sports. Some schools do it, some don't - some do it just for certain sports. Sidwell does it for tennis and basketball. Other schools do it for lacrosse, or whatever.... It's life. If you don't like it, choose a school that doesn't have sports teams or one that doesn't recruit for sports.

I meant other schools of the same academic caliber.

That’s my point. It’s as if schools are only allowed to be superior in one area—academics OR sports. The prevailing sentiment seems to be, “ how dare Sidwell excel in both areas!”

Obviously, that’s Sidwell’s choice. I never said or thought “how dare they”. That said, I do find it surprising and a bit pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of public schools. If smart, they know the danger of keeping the kids in a bubble.

This is so funny it made me giggle. So untrue, so hopeful and still so wrong. What’s clear is that PP doesnt know anyone with real wealth.

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell recruits kids for varsity tennis, especially in 9th grade. Two of the top four girls on the team came in as freshmen this year. They were already established players in the section and joined the team to keep its impressive stats.

The point is that other schools don’t follow the same practice, or at least not to the same extent.

St John's does.

This is not something new in the world of high school sports. Some schools do it, some don't - some do it just for certain sports. Sidwell does it for tennis and basketball. Other schools do it for lacrosse, or whatever.... It's life. If you don't like it, choose a school that doesn't have sports teams or one that doesn't recruit for sports.

I meant other schools of the same academic caliber.

That’s my point. It’s as if schools are only allowed to be superior in one area—academics OR sports. The prevailing sentiment seems to be, “ how dare Sidwell excel in both areas!”

Obviously, that’s Sidwell’s choice. I never said or thought “how dare they”. That said, I do find it surprising and a bit pathetic.

What exactly is pathetic about it? Our kids are friends with tennis players and they are no different from any other student.

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell recruits kids for varsity tennis, especially in 9th grade. Two of the top four girls on the team came in as freshmen this year. They were already established players in the section and joined the team to keep its impressive stats.

The point is that other schools don’t follow the same practice, or at least not to the same extent.

St John's does.

This is not something new in the world of high school sports. Some schools do it, some don't - some do it just for certain sports. Sidwell does it for tennis and basketball. Other schools do it for lacrosse, or whatever.... It's life. If you don't like it, choose a school that doesn't have sports teams or one that doesn't recruit for sports.

I meant other schools of the same academic caliber.

That’s my point. It’s as if schools are only allowed to be superior in one area—academics OR sports. The prevailing sentiment seems to be, “ how dare Sidwell excel in both areas!”

Obviously, that’s Sidwell’s choice. I never said or thought “how dare they”. That said, I do find it surprising and a bit pathetic.

What exactly is pathetic about it? Our kids are friends with tennis players and they are no different from any other student.

To add - I find it far more pathetic that Sidwell seeks out VIP and legacy families who can afford to buy educational privilege.

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell recruits kids for varsity tennis, especially in 9th grade. Two of the top four girls on the team came in as freshmen this year. They were already established players in the section and joined the team to keep its impressive stats.

The point is that other schools don’t follow the same practice, or at least not to the same extent.

St John's does.

This is not something new in the world of high school sports. Some schools do it, some don't - some do it just for certain sports. Sidwell does it for tennis and basketball. Other schools do it for lacrosse, or whatever.... It's life. If you don't like it, choose a school that doesn't have sports teams or one that doesn't recruit for sports.

I meant other schools of the same academic caliber.

That’s my point. It’s as if schools are only allowed to be superior in one area—academics OR sports. The prevailing sentiment seems to be, “ how dare Sidwell excel in both areas!”

Obviously, that’s Sidwell’s choice. I never said or thought “how dare they”. That said, I do find it surprising and a bit pathetic.

Pathetic because Sidwell is dominating DMV schools in academics, basketball, and tennis?!? Pathetic indeed! 😂

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell recruits kids for varsity tennis, especially in 9th grade. Two of the top four girls on the team came in as freshmen this year. They were already established players in the section and joined the team to keep its impressive stats.

The point is that other schools don’t follow the same practice, or at least not to the same extent.

St John's does.

This is not something new in the world of high school sports. Some schools do it, some don't - some do it just for certain sports. Sidwell does it for tennis and basketball. Other schools do it for lacrosse, or whatever.... It's life. If you don't like it, choose a school that doesn't have sports teams or one that doesn't recruit for sports.

I meant other schools of the same academic caliber.

That’s my point. It’s as if schools are only allowed to be superior in one area—academics OR sports. The prevailing sentiment seems to be, “ how dare Sidwell excel in both areas!”

Obviously, that’s Sidwell’s choice. I never said or thought “how dare they”. That said, I do find it surprising and a bit pathetic.

Pathetic because Sidwell is dominating DMV schools in academics, basketball, and tennis?!? Pathetic indeed! 😂

Academics? Ah, no. Tennis? Maybe girls but not all around. Hoops? Didn’t Visi beat you last year?