Where do the people in the $6/7/8m+ mansions in send their kids?

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I remember when my daughter attended Holton there was a Marriott that had attended and the Reynolds had a daughter at the school too while my daughter was there.
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Anonymous wrote:Among DMV privates, Sidwell probably has one of the wealthiest student bodies. Sidwell’s tuition is one of the most expensive in the area, yet only 21% of the families receive financial aid. Many of Sidwell’s financial aid recipients are recruited athletes.


Sidwell costs the same as the other Big 3, so that’s sortof a silly distinction. And basically the same as all the other non-Catholic schools in that cohort (Landon, Holton, Potomac, Maret, GDS, etc.). I’d bet my life that no full pay family has ever decided between these schools based on the negligible tuition differences.

And, these other schools have the same recruited athlete phenomenon, so I don’t think that you can conclude that therefore The Richest DC Families Go To Sidwell.

I’m very curious about your statement that the financial aid is going to recruited athletes at Sidwell. That assumption — and I’m guessing that you don’t actually know — strikes me as a really bad one. I mean, maybe for basketball? But, athletes tend to already be semi-rich kids. Look at the families spending $$$ on private lessons, expensive travel clubs, hotels and airfare all over the country. These are not the poor chickens at our school.


You clearly don’t like Sidwell, but that’s not my problem. You also shouldn’t allow your opinions and emotions to interfere with facts.

“Sidwell costs the same as the other Big 3…”

2023-24 Tuition:
St. Albans (Day School): $55,468
Sidwell: (Grades 9-12): $55,140
NCS: $53,210
GDS (Grades 9-11): $51,325
It is also a FACT that no other “Big 3” provides less need based financial aid than Sidwell (NCS ties Sidwell at 21%).

“Other schools have the same recruited athlete phenomenon…”

Really? Which athletic state championships have GDS, STA and NCS won within the past 5 years? How many of their athletic teams have been NATIONALLY ranked within the past 5 years? How many professional athletes have those schools produced?

“I’m very curious about your statement that the financial aid is going to recruited athletes at Sidwell.”

First, I didn’t say ONLY recruited athletes receive financial aid. My (non-recruited athlete) daughter plays two varsity sports at Sidwell. She’s friends/acquaintances with many athletes across multiple sports. There are only a handful of new recruited athletes for most of Sidwell’s sports each year…and students talk. My daughter has been told, DIRECTLY, by several sports recruits (across multiple sports), that they’re receiving financial aid. I guess those students don’t think it’s some sort of shameful secret, as you clearly do.


The athlete fight is also totally weird. I’m sure we’ll hear from all the STA folks about their famous athletes and Landon and whomever else. Listen, the idea that Sidwell is some sort of athletic powerhouse like the catholic school —ok, ok basketball—is just not what most people think about your school.


NP. Sidwell is also a powerhouse in tennis. Specifically, girls tennis. This year, both the JV and Varsity girls tennis teams are undefeated.

This is from Sidwell’s website:

“The girls' varsity tennis team has become one of the top programs in the ISL AA Division, winning back-to-back-to-back regular season and tournament banners in 2019, 2021, and 2022. The team also won DCSAA DC State Titles in 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2023. Over the last four seasons, the team has compiled an overall record of 50-1 and has been ranked in the Top 5 in the High School National Team Rankings by Universal Tennis (UTR).”


Sidwell’s girls’ tennis team is now the second-ranked tennis team in the country, according to Universal Tennis.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/10/26/sidwell-friends-girls-isl-tennis/


It's not a team.
The top players choose Sidwell precisely so they can LEAVE the school at lunchtime to go train elsewhere. They don't go to Sidwell to get better, they go because the school allows them to skip practice and get actual training from real high performance coaches. They just show up for matches. Hardly a team.


Your comments don't match our child's experience either. Friends on tennis team stay the full day and are full fledged classmates and teammates. I've also seen them attending sporting events to support their friends.


Do they practice daily with the team?


I don’t know if they “practice daily with the team,” but I know they practice fairly regularly together. How do I know? Because I’m an actual Sidwell parent and I see them practicing when I’m on campus for my child’s soccer games (and when picking up after practice). One of the soccer fields is adjacent to the tennis courts.

Btw, daily practice together isn’t required for them to be considered a team. They practice together regularly, they’re coached by the same two coaches, they consider/call themselves a team, and they are considered a team by the larger society (i.e., the ISL, other school tennis teams, and according to this article, the Washington Post).

You don’t have to like or support Sidwell’s varsity girls tennis team, but just like all the other Sidwell haters, YOU.WILL.DEAL.


How regularly? Specify days and times.


1. Regularly enough to have a 56-0 record;
2. Regularly enough to win a fourth straight ISL championship title; and
3. Regularly enough to be the second-ranked tennis team in the country.

Any school can attempt to do what Sidwell has done to build its girls tennis team into a national powerhouse. You’re just upset that Sidwell has actually done it. You’re also upset that Sidwell is so good at so many things. Don’t be mad, just do better.


I would assume the very top tennis players are at IMG or on the junior pro/pro circuit and homeschool. Has any Sidwell tennis player gone pro and gotten a decent ranking?

I mean the top HS boy's or girl's soccer team in the country is not really the top team considering so many of the top soccer recruits are on academy teams and not allowed to play for their high schools.
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These families are prominent in the area - it's not just one set of parents/kids but many sets of parents/kids. Their children attend a variety of schools, some Big 3, some not. Bottom line, they find the right fit for each child and are seeking a particular school with a golden stamp of approval or brand name.
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Anonymous wrote:Among DMV privates, Sidwell probably has one of the wealthiest student bodies. Sidwell’s tuition is one of the most expensive in the area, yet only 21% of the families receive financial aid. Many of Sidwell’s financial aid recipients are recruited athletes.


Sidwell costs the same as the other Big 3, so that’s sortof a silly distinction. And basically the same as all the other non-Catholic schools in that cohort (Landon, Holton, Potomac, Maret, GDS, etc.). I’d bet my life that no full pay family has ever decided between these schools based on the negligible tuition differences.

And, these other schools have the same recruited athlete phenomenon, so I don’t think that you can conclude that therefore The Richest DC Families Go To Sidwell.

I’m very curious about your statement that the financial aid is going to recruited athletes at Sidwell. That assumption — and I’m guessing that you don’t actually know — strikes me as a really bad one. I mean, maybe for basketball? But, athletes tend to already be semi-rich kids. Look at the families spending $$$ on private lessons, expensive travel clubs, hotels and airfare all over the country. These are not the poor chickens at our school.


You clearly don’t like Sidwell, but that’s not my problem. You also shouldn’t allow your opinions and emotions to interfere with facts.

“Sidwell costs the same as the other Big 3…”

2023-24 Tuition:
St. Albans (Day School): $55,468
Sidwell: (Grades 9-12): $55,140
NCS: $53,210
GDS (Grades 9-11): $51,325
It is also a FACT that no other “Big 3” provides less need based financial aid than Sidwell (NCS ties Sidwell at 21%).

“Other schools have the same recruited athlete phenomenon…”

Really? Which athletic state championships have GDS, STA and NCS won within the past 5 years? How many of their athletic teams have been NATIONALLY ranked within the past 5 years? How many professional athletes have those schools produced?

“I’m very curious about your statement that the financial aid is going to recruited athletes at Sidwell.”

First, I didn’t say ONLY recruited athletes receive financial aid. My (non-recruited athlete) daughter plays two varsity sports at Sidwell. She’s friends/acquaintances with many athletes across multiple sports. There are only a handful of new recruited athletes for most of Sidwell’s sports each year…and students talk. My daughter has been told, DIRECTLY, by several sports recruits (across multiple sports), that they’re receiving financial aid. I guess those students don’t think it’s some sort of shameful secret, as you clearly do.


The athlete fight is also totally weird. I’m sure we’ll hear from all the STA folks about their famous athletes and Landon and whomever else. Listen, the idea that Sidwell is some sort of athletic powerhouse like the catholic school —ok, ok basketball—is just not what most people think about your school.


NP. Sidwell is also a powerhouse in tennis. Specifically, girls tennis. This year, both the JV and Varsity girls tennis teams are undefeated.

This is from Sidwell’s website:

“The girls' varsity tennis team has become one of the top programs in the ISL AA Division, winning back-to-back-to-back regular season and tournament banners in 2019, 2021, and 2022. The team also won DCSAA DC State Titles in 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2023. Over the last four seasons, the team has compiled an overall record of 50-1 and has been ranked in the Top 5 in the High School National Team Rankings by Universal Tennis (UTR).”


Sidwell’s girls’ tennis team is now the second-ranked tennis team in the country, according to Universal Tennis.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/10/26/sidwell-friends-girls-isl-tennis/


It's not a team.
The top players choose Sidwell precisely so they can LEAVE the school at lunchtime to go train elsewhere. They don't go to Sidwell to get better, they go because the school allows them to skip practice and get actual training from real high performance coaches. They just show up for matches. Hardly a team.


Your comments don't match our child's experience either. Friends on tennis team stay the full day and are full fledged classmates and teammates. I've also seen them attending sporting events to support their friends.


Do they practice daily with the team?


I don’t know if they “practice daily with the team,” but I know they practice fairly regularly together. How do I know? Because I’m an actual Sidwell parent and I see them practicing when I’m on campus for my child’s soccer games (and when picking up after practice). One of the soccer fields is adjacent to the tennis courts.

Btw, daily practice together isn’t required for them to be considered a team. They practice together regularly, they’re coached by the same two coaches, they consider/call themselves a team, and they are considered a team by the larger society (i.e., the ISL, other school tennis teams, and according to this article, the Washington Post).

You don’t have to like or support Sidwell’s varsity girls tennis team, but just like all the other Sidwell haters, YOU.WILL.DEAL.


How regularly? Specify days and times.


1. Regularly enough to have a 56-0 record;
2. Regularly enough to win a fourth straight ISL championship title; and
3. Regularly enough to be the second-ranked tennis team in the country.

Any school can attempt to do what Sidwell has done to build its girls tennis team into a national powerhouse. You’re just upset that Sidwell has actually done it. You’re also upset that Sidwell is so good at so many things. Don’t be mad, just do better.


I would assume the very top tennis players are at IMG or on the junior pro/pro circuit and homeschool. Has any Sidwell tennis player gone pro and gotten a decent ranking?

I mean the top HS boy's or girl's soccer team in the country is not really the top team considering so many of the top soccer recruits are on academy teams and not allowed to play for their high schools.


Life is about choices. Not every top tennis player wants to sacrifice their childhood by moving to Florida to attend a pre-professional sports academy.

Top tennis students who don’t want that joyless grind may choose a school like Sidwell. They get to be a normal student with a normal childhood, compete in their sport, and hone their craft.

Some of these girls may want to be professional tennis players. However, others may just want to be recruited to play at a top university. Then, they may pursue a successful career in sports medicine, business, law, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:Among DMV privates, Sidwell probably has one of the wealthiest student bodies. Sidwell’s tuition is one of the most expensive in the area, yet only 21% of the families receive financial aid. Many of Sidwell’s financial aid recipients are recruited athletes.


Sidwell costs the same as the other Big 3, so that’s sortof a silly distinction. And basically the same as all the other non-Catholic schools in that cohort (Landon, Holton, Potomac, Maret, GDS, etc.). I’d bet my life that no full pay family has ever decided between these schools based on the negligible tuition differences.

And, these other schools have the same recruited athlete phenomenon, so I don’t think that you can conclude that therefore The Richest DC Families Go To Sidwell.

I’m very curious about your statement that the financial aid is going to recruited athletes at Sidwell. That assumption — and I’m guessing that you don’t actually know — strikes me as a really bad one. I mean, maybe for basketball? But, athletes tend to already be semi-rich kids. Look at the families spending $$$ on private lessons, expensive travel clubs, hotels and airfare all over the country. These are not the poor chickens at our school.


You clearly don’t like Sidwell, but that’s not my problem. You also shouldn’t allow your opinions and emotions to interfere with facts.

“Sidwell costs the same as the other Big 3…”

2023-24 Tuition:
St. Albans (Day School): $55,468
Sidwell: (Grades 9-12): $55,140
NCS: $53,210
GDS (Grades 9-11): $51,325
It is also a FACT that no other “Big 3” provides less need based financial aid than Sidwell (NCS ties Sidwell at 21%).

“Other schools have the same recruited athlete phenomenon…”

Really? Which athletic state championships have GDS, STA and NCS won within the past 5 years? How many of their athletic teams have been NATIONALLY ranked within the past 5 years? How many professional athletes have those schools produced?

“I’m very curious about your statement that the financial aid is going to recruited athletes at Sidwell.”

First, I didn’t say ONLY recruited athletes receive financial aid. My (non-recruited athlete) daughter plays two varsity sports at Sidwell. She’s friends/acquaintances with many athletes across multiple sports. There are only a handful of new recruited athletes for most of Sidwell’s sports each year…and students talk. My daughter has been told, DIRECTLY, by several sports recruits (across multiple sports), that they’re receiving financial aid. I guess those students don’t think it’s some sort of shameful secret, as you clearly do.


The athlete fight is also totally weird. I’m sure we’ll hear from all the STA folks about their famous athletes and Landon and whomever else. Listen, the idea that Sidwell is some sort of athletic powerhouse like the catholic school —ok, ok basketball—is just not what most people think about your school.


NP. Sidwell is also a powerhouse in tennis. Specifically, girls tennis. This year, both the JV and Varsity girls tennis teams are undefeated.

This is from Sidwell’s website:

“The girls' varsity tennis team has become one of the top programs in the ISL AA Division, winning back-to-back-to-back regular season and tournament banners in 2019, 2021, and 2022. The team also won DCSAA DC State Titles in 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2023. Over the last four seasons, the team has compiled an overall record of 50-1 and has been ranked in the Top 5 in the High School National Team Rankings by Universal Tennis (UTR).”


Sidwell’s girls’ tennis team is now the second-ranked tennis team in the country, according to Universal Tennis.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/10/26/sidwell-friends-girls-isl-tennis/


It's not a team.
The top players choose Sidwell precisely so they can LEAVE the school at lunchtime to go train elsewhere. They don't go to Sidwell to get better, they go because the school allows them to skip practice and get actual training from real high performance coaches. They just show up for matches. Hardly a team.


Your comments don't match our child's experience either. Friends on tennis team stay the full day and are full fledged classmates and teammates. I've also seen them attending sporting events to support their friends.


Do they practice daily with the team?


I don’t know if they “practice daily with the team,” but I know they practice fairly regularly together. How do I know? Because I’m an actual Sidwell parent and I see them practicing when I’m on campus for my child’s soccer games (and when picking up after practice). One of the soccer fields is adjacent to the tennis courts.

Btw, daily practice together isn’t required for them to be considered a team. They practice together regularly, they’re coached by the same two coaches, they consider/call themselves a team, and they are considered a team by the larger society (i.e., the ISL, other school tennis teams, and according to this article, the Washington Post).

You don’t have to like or support Sidwell’s varsity girls tennis team, but just like all the other Sidwell haters, YOU.WILL.DEAL.


How regularly? Specify days and times.


1. Regularly enough to have a 56-0 record;
2. Regularly enough to win a fourth straight ISL championship title; and
3. Regularly enough to be the second-ranked tennis team in the country.

Any school can attempt to do what Sidwell has done to build its girls tennis team into a national powerhouse. You’re just upset that Sidwell has actually done it. You’re also upset that Sidwell is so good at so many things. Don’t be mad, just do better.


I would assume the very top tennis players are at IMG or on the junior pro/pro circuit and homeschool. Has any Sidwell tennis player gone pro and gotten a decent ranking?

I mean the top HS boy's or girl's soccer team in the country is not really the top team considering so many of the top soccer recruits are on academy teams and not allowed to play for their high schools.
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Anonymous wrote:Among DMV privates, Sidwell probably has one of the wealthiest student bodies. Sidwell’s tuition is one of the most expensive in the area, yet only 21% of the families receive financial aid. Many of Sidwell’s financial aid recipients are recruited athletes.


Sidwell costs the same as the other Big 3, so that’s sortof a silly distinction. And basically the same as all the other non-Catholic schools in that cohort (Landon, Holton, Potomac, Maret, GDS, etc.). I’d bet my life that no full pay family has ever decided between these schools based on the negligible tuition differences.

And, these other schools have the same recruited athlete phenomenon, so I don’t think that you can conclude that therefore The Richest DC Families Go To Sidwell.

I’m very curious about your statement that the financial aid is going to recruited athletes at Sidwell. That assumption — and I’m guessing that you don’t actually know — strikes me as a really bad one. I mean, maybe for basketball? But, athletes tend to already be semi-rich kids. Look at the families spending $$$ on private lessons, expensive travel clubs, hotels and airfare all over the country. These are not the poor chickens at our school.


You clearly don’t like Sidwell, but that’s not my problem. You also shouldn’t allow your opinions and emotions to interfere with facts.

“Sidwell costs the same as the other Big 3…”

2023-24 Tuition:
St. Albans (Day School): $55,468
Sidwell: (Grades 9-12): $55,140
NCS: $53,210
GDS (Grades 9-11): $51,325
It is also a FACT that no other “Big 3” provides less need based financial aid than Sidwell (NCS ties Sidwell at 21%).

“Other schools have the same recruited athlete phenomenon…”

Really? Which athletic state championships have GDS, STA and NCS won within the past 5 years? How many of their athletic teams have been NATIONALLY ranked within the past 5 years? How many professional athletes have those schools produced?

“I’m very curious about your statement that the financial aid is going to recruited athletes at Sidwell.”

First, I didn’t say ONLY recruited athletes receive financial aid. My (non-recruited athlete) daughter plays two varsity sports at Sidwell. She’s friends/acquaintances with many athletes across multiple sports. There are only a handful of new recruited athletes for most of Sidwell’s sports each year…and students talk. My daughter has been told, DIRECTLY, by several sports recruits (across multiple sports), that they’re receiving financial aid. I guess those students don’t think it’s some sort of shameful secret, as you clearly do.


The athlete fight is also totally weird. I’m sure we’ll hear from all the STA folks about their famous athletes and Landon and whomever else. Listen, the idea that Sidwell is some sort of athletic powerhouse like the catholic school —ok, ok basketball—is just not what most people think about your school.


NP. Sidwell is also a powerhouse in tennis. Specifically, girls tennis. This year, both the JV and Varsity girls tennis teams are undefeated.

This is from Sidwell’s website:

“The girls' varsity tennis team has become one of the top programs in the ISL AA Division, winning back-to-back-to-back regular season and tournament banners in 2019, 2021, and 2022. The team also won DCSAA DC State Titles in 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2023. Over the last four seasons, the team has compiled an overall record of 50-1 and has been ranked in the Top 5 in the High School National Team Rankings by Universal Tennis (UTR).”


Sidwell’s girls’ tennis team is now the second-ranked tennis team in the country, according to Universal Tennis.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/10/26/sidwell-friends-girls-isl-tennis/


It's not a team.
The top players choose Sidwell precisely so they can LEAVE the school at lunchtime to go train elsewhere. They don't go to Sidwell to get better, they go because the school allows them to skip practice and get actual training from real high performance coaches. They just show up for matches. Hardly a team.


Your comments don't match our child's experience either. Friends on tennis team stay the full day and are full fledged classmates and teammates. I've also seen them attending sporting events to support their friends.


Do they practice daily with the team?


I don’t know if they “practice daily with the team,” but I know they practice fairly regularly together. How do I know? Because I’m an actual Sidwell parent and I see them practicing when I’m on campus for my child’s soccer games (and when picking up after practice). One of the soccer fields is adjacent to the tennis courts.

Btw, daily practice together isn’t required for them to be considered a team. They practice together regularly, they’re coached by the same two coaches, they consider/call themselves a team, and they are considered a team by the larger society (i.e., the ISL, other school tennis teams, and according to this article, the Washington Post).

You don’t have to like or support Sidwell’s varsity girls tennis team, but just like all the other Sidwell haters, YOU.WILL.DEAL.


How regularly? Specify days and times.


1. Regularly enough to have a 56-0 record;
2. Regularly enough to win a fourth straight ISL championship title; and
3. Regularly enough to be the second-ranked tennis team in the country.

Any school can attempt to do what Sidwell has done to build its girls tennis team into a national powerhouse. You’re just upset that Sidwell has actually done it. You’re also upset that Sidwell is so good at so many things. Don’t be mad, just do better.


I would assume the very top tennis players are at IMG or on the junior pro/pro circuit and homeschool. Has any Sidwell tennis player gone pro and gotten a decent ranking?

I mean the top HS boy's or girl's soccer team in the country is not really the top team considering so many of the top soccer recruits are on academy teams and not allowed to play for their high schools.



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Anonymous wrote:Among DMV privates, Sidwell probably has one of the wealthiest student bodies. Sidwell’s tuition is one of the most expensive in the area, yet only 21% of the families receive financial aid. Many of Sidwell’s financial aid recipients are recruited athletes.


Sidwell costs the same as the other Big 3, so that’s sortof a silly distinction. And basically the same as all the other non-Catholic schools in that cohort (Landon, Holton, Potomac, Maret, GDS, etc.). I’d bet my life that no full pay family has ever decided between these schools based on the negligible tuition differences.

And, these other schools have the same recruited athlete phenomenon, so I don’t think that you can conclude that therefore The Richest DC Families Go To Sidwell.

I’m very curious about your statement that the financial aid is going to recruited athletes at Sidwell. That assumption — and I’m guessing that you don’t actually know — strikes me as a really bad one. I mean, maybe for basketball? But, athletes tend to already be semi-rich kids. Look at the families spending $$$ on private lessons, expensive travel clubs, hotels and airfare all over the country. These are not the poor chickens at our school.


You clearly don’t like Sidwell, but that’s not my problem. You also shouldn’t allow your opinions and emotions to interfere with facts.

“Sidwell costs the same as the other Big 3…”

2023-24 Tuition:
St. Albans (Day School): $55,468
Sidwell: (Grades 9-12): $55,140
NCS: $53,210
GDS (Grades 9-11): $51,325
It is also a FACT that no other “Big 3” provides less need based financial aid than Sidwell (NCS ties Sidwell at 21%).

“Other schools have the same recruited athlete phenomenon…”

Really? Which athletic state championships have GDS, STA and NCS won within the past 5 years? How many of their athletic teams have been NATIONALLY ranked within the past 5 years? How many professional athletes have those schools produced?

“I’m very curious about your statement that the financial aid is going to recruited athletes at Sidwell.”

First, I didn’t say ONLY recruited athletes receive financial aid. My (non-recruited athlete) daughter plays two varsity sports at Sidwell. She’s friends/acquaintances with many athletes across multiple sports. There are only a handful of new recruited athletes for most of Sidwell’s sports each year…and students talk. My daughter has been told, DIRECTLY, by several sports recruits (across multiple sports), that they’re receiving financial aid. I guess those students don’t think it’s some sort of shameful secret, as you clearly do.


The athlete fight is also totally weird. I’m sure we’ll hear from all the STA folks about their famous athletes and Landon and whomever else. Listen, the idea that Sidwell is some sort of athletic powerhouse like the catholic school —ok, ok basketball—is just not what most people think about your school.


NP. Sidwell is also a powerhouse in tennis. Specifically, girls tennis. This year, both the JV and Varsity girls tennis teams are undefeated.

This is from Sidwell’s website:

“The girls' varsity tennis team has become one of the top programs in the ISL AA Division, winning back-to-back-to-back regular season and tournament banners in 2019, 2021, and 2022. The team also won DCSAA DC State Titles in 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2023. Over the last four seasons, the team has compiled an overall record of 50-1 and has been ranked in the Top 5 in the High School National Team Rankings by Universal Tennis (UTR).”


Sidwell’s girls’ tennis team is now the second-ranked tennis team in the country, according to Universal Tennis.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/10/26/sidwell-friends-girls-isl-tennis/


It's not a team.
The top players choose Sidwell precisely so they can LEAVE the school at lunchtime to go train elsewhere. They don't go to Sidwell to get better, they go because the school allows them to skip practice and get actual training from real high performance coaches. They just show up for matches. Hardly a team.


Your comments don't match our child's experience either. Friends on tennis team stay the full day and are full fledged classmates and teammates. I've also seen them attending sporting events to support their friends.


Do they practice daily with the team?


I don’t know if they “practice daily with the team,” but I know they practice fairly regularly together. How do I know? Because I’m an actual Sidwell parent and I see them practicing when I’m on campus for my child’s soccer games (and when picking up after practice). One of the soccer fields is adjacent to the tennis courts.

Btw, daily practice together isn’t required for them to be considered a team. They practice together regularly, they’re coached by the same two coaches, they consider/call themselves a team, and they are considered a team by the larger society (i.e., the ISL, other school tennis teams, and according to this article, the Washington Post).

You don’t have to like or support Sidwell’s varsity girls tennis team, but just like all the other Sidwell haters, YOU.WILL.DEAL.


How regularly? Specify days and times.


1. Regularly enough to have a 56-0 record;
2. Regularly enough to win a fourth straight ISL championship title; and
3. Regularly enough to be the second-ranked tennis team in the country.

Any school can attempt to do what Sidwell has done to build its girls tennis team into a national powerhouse. You’re just upset that Sidwell has actually done it. You’re also upset that Sidwell is so good at so many things. Don’t be mad, just do better.


I would assume the very top tennis players are at IMG or on the junior pro/pro circuit and homeschool. Has any Sidwell tennis player gone pro and gotten a decent ranking?

I mean the top HS boy's or girl's soccer team in the country is not really the top team considering so many of the top soccer recruits are on academy teams and not allowed to play for their high schools.



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Anonymous wrote:Among DMV privates, Sidwell probably has one of the wealthiest student bodies. Sidwell’s tuition is one of the most expensive in the area, yet only 21% of the families receive financial aid. Many of Sidwell’s financial aid recipients are recruited athletes.


Sidwell costs the same as the other Big 3, so that’s sortof a silly distinction. And basically the same as all the other non-Catholic schools in that cohort (Landon, Holton, Potomac, Maret, GDS, etc.). I’d bet my life that no full pay family has ever decided between these schools based on the negligible tuition differences.

And, these other schools have the same recruited athlete phenomenon, so I don’t think that you can conclude that therefore The Richest DC Families Go To Sidwell.

I’m very curious about your statement that the financial aid is going to recruited athletes at Sidwell. That assumption — and I’m guessing that you don’t actually know — strikes me as a really bad one. I mean, maybe for basketball? But, athletes tend to already be semi-rich kids. Look at the families spending $$$ on private lessons, expensive travel clubs, hotels and airfare all over the country. These are not the poor chickens at our school.


You clearly don’t like Sidwell, but that’s not my problem. You also shouldn’t allow your opinions and emotions to interfere with facts.

“Sidwell costs the same as the other Big 3…”

2023-24 Tuition:
St. Albans (Day School): $55,468
Sidwell: (Grades 9-12): $55,140
NCS: $53,210
GDS (Grades 9-11): $51,325
It is also a FACT that no other “Big 3” provides less need based financial aid than Sidwell (NCS ties Sidwell at 21%).

“Other schools have the same recruited athlete phenomenon…”

Really? Which athletic state championships have GDS, STA and NCS won within the past 5 years? How many of their athletic teams have been NATIONALLY ranked within the past 5 years? How many professional athletes have those schools produced?

“I’m very curious about your statement that the financial aid is going to recruited athletes at Sidwell.”

First, I didn’t say ONLY recruited athletes receive financial aid. My (non-recruited athlete) daughter plays two varsity sports at Sidwell. She’s friends/acquaintances with many athletes across multiple sports. There are only a handful of new recruited athletes for most of Sidwell’s sports each year…and students talk. My daughter has been told, DIRECTLY, by several sports recruits (across multiple sports), that they’re receiving financial aid. I guess those students don’t think it’s some sort of shameful secret, as you clearly do.


The athlete fight is also totally weird. I’m sure we’ll hear from all the STA folks about their famous athletes and Landon and whomever else. Listen, the idea that Sidwell is some sort of athletic powerhouse like the catholic school —ok, ok basketball—is just not what most people think about your school.


NP. Sidwell is also a powerhouse in tennis. Specifically, girls tennis. This year, both the JV and Varsity girls tennis teams are undefeated.

This is from Sidwell’s website:

“The girls' varsity tennis team has become one of the top programs in the ISL AA Division, winning back-to-back-to-back regular season and tournament banners in 2019, 2021, and 2022. The team also won DCSAA DC State Titles in 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2023. Over the last four seasons, the team has compiled an overall record of 50-1 and has been ranked in the Top 5 in the High School National Team Rankings by Universal Tennis (UTR).”


Sidwell’s girls’ tennis team is now the second-ranked tennis team in the country, according to Universal Tennis.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/10/26/sidwell-friends-girls-isl-tennis/


It's not a team.
The top players choose Sidwell precisely so they can LEAVE the school at lunchtime to go train elsewhere. They don't go to Sidwell to get better, they go because the school allows them to skip practice and get actual training from real high performance coaches. They just show up for matches. Hardly a team.


Your comments don't match our child's experience either. Friends on tennis team stay the full day and are full fledged classmates and teammates. I've also seen them attending sporting events to support their friends.


Do they practice daily with the team?


I don’t know if they “practice daily with the team,” but I know they practice fairly regularly together. How do I know? Because I’m an actual Sidwell parent and I see them practicing when I’m on campus for my child’s soccer games (and when picking up after practice). One of the soccer fields is adjacent to the tennis courts.

Btw, daily practice together isn’t required for them to be considered a team. They practice together regularly, they’re coached by the same two coaches, they consider/call themselves a team, and they are considered a team by the larger society (i.e., the ISL, other school tennis teams, and according to this article, the Washington Post).

You don’t have to like or support Sidwell’s varsity girls tennis team, but just like all the other Sidwell haters, YOU.WILL.DEAL.


How regularly? Specify days and times.


1. Regularly enough to have a 56-0 record;
2. Regularly enough to win a fourth straight ISL championship title; and
3. Regularly enough to be the second-ranked tennis team in the country.

Any school can attempt to do what Sidwell has done to build its girls tennis team into a national powerhouse. You’re just upset that Sidwell has actually done it. You’re also upset that Sidwell is so good at so many things. Don’t be mad, just do better.


I would assume the very top tennis players are at IMG or on the junior pro/pro circuit and homeschool. Has any Sidwell tennis player gone pro and gotten a decent ranking?

I mean the top HS boy's or girl's soccer team in the country is not really the top team considering so many of the top soccer recruits are on academy teams and not allowed to play for their high schools.



Paul Goldstein #58 in the world.


He graduated from Stanford


Paul Herbert Goldstein is a retired tennis player from the United States, who turned professional in 1998. He announced his retirement from professional tennis in February 2008, as he was starting working with a clean energy company.

He is a 1994 graduate of Sidwell Friends School in Washington, D.C., where he was a four-time Washington Post First Team All Met selection (1991–1994).

Goldstein played college tennis at Stanford University and graduated in 1998 with a degree in human biology. He was an All-American each year, and the team won the national championship each year. In his senior year he was Pac-10 Player of the Year in 1998, after a 33–2 season in which he was team captain. In 2023, Goldstein was inducted into the Stanford Athletics Hall of Fame.



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Anonymous wrote:Among DMV privates, Sidwell probably has one of the wealthiest student bodies. Sidwell’s tuition is one of the most expensive in the area, yet only 21% of the families receive financial aid. Many of Sidwell’s financial aid recipients are recruited athletes.


Sidwell costs the same as the other Big 3, so that’s sortof a silly distinction. And basically the same as all the other non-Catholic schools in that cohort (Landon, Holton, Potomac, Maret, GDS, etc.). I’d bet my life that no full pay family has ever decided between these schools based on the negligible tuition differences.

And, these other schools have the same recruited athlete phenomenon, so I don’t think that you can conclude that therefore The Richest DC Families Go To Sidwell.

I’m very curious about your statement that the financial aid is going to recruited athletes at Sidwell. That assumption — and I’m guessing that you don’t actually know — strikes me as a really bad one. I mean, maybe for basketball? But, athletes tend to already be semi-rich kids. Look at the families spending $$$ on private lessons, expensive travel clubs, hotels and airfare all over the country. These are not the poor chickens at our school.


You clearly don’t like Sidwell, but that’s not my problem. You also shouldn’t allow your opinions and emotions to interfere with facts.

“Sidwell costs the same as the other Big 3…”

2023-24 Tuition:
St. Albans (Day School): $55,468
Sidwell: (Grades 9-12): $55,140
NCS: $53,210
GDS (Grades 9-11): $51,325
It is also a FACT that no other “Big 3” provides less need based financial aid than Sidwell (NCS ties Sidwell at 21%).

“Other schools have the same recruited athlete phenomenon…”

Really? Which athletic state championships have GDS, STA and NCS won within the past 5 years? How many of their athletic teams have been NATIONALLY ranked within the past 5 years? How many professional athletes have those schools produced?

“I’m very curious about your statement that the financial aid is going to recruited athletes at Sidwell.”

First, I didn’t say ONLY recruited athletes receive financial aid. My (non-recruited athlete) daughter plays two varsity sports at Sidwell. She’s friends/acquaintances with many athletes across multiple sports. There are only a handful of new recruited athletes for most of Sidwell’s sports each year…and students talk. My daughter has been told, DIRECTLY, by several sports recruits (across multiple sports), that they’re receiving financial aid. I guess those students don’t think it’s some sort of shameful secret, as you clearly do.


The athlete fight is also totally weird. I’m sure we’ll hear from all the STA folks about their famous athletes and Landon and whomever else. Listen, the idea that Sidwell is some sort of athletic powerhouse like the catholic school —ok, ok basketball—is just not what most people think about your school.


NP. Sidwell is also a powerhouse in tennis. Specifically, girls tennis. This year, both the JV and Varsity girls tennis teams are undefeated.

This is from Sidwell’s website:

“The girls' varsity tennis team has become one of the top programs in the ISL AA Division, winning back-to-back-to-back regular season and tournament banners in 2019, 2021, and 2022. The team also won DCSAA DC State Titles in 2018, 2019, 2021 and 2023. Over the last four seasons, the team has compiled an overall record of 50-1 and has been ranked in the Top 5 in the High School National Team Rankings by Universal Tennis (UTR).”


Sidwell’s girls’ tennis team is now the second-ranked tennis team in the country, according to Universal Tennis.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/10/26/sidwell-friends-girls-isl-tennis/


It's not a team.
The top players choose Sidwell precisely so they can LEAVE the school at lunchtime to go train elsewhere. They don't go to Sidwell to get better, they go because the school allows them to skip practice and get actual training from real high performance coaches. They just show up for matches. Hardly a team.


Your comments don't match our child's experience either. Friends on tennis team stay the full day and are full fledged classmates and teammates. I've also seen them attending sporting events to support their friends.


Do they practice daily with the team?


I don’t know if they “practice daily with the team,” but I know they practice fairly regularly together. How do I know? Because I’m an actual Sidwell parent and I see them practicing when I’m on campus for my child’s soccer games (and when picking up after practice). One of the soccer fields is adjacent to the tennis courts.

Btw, daily practice together isn’t required for them to be considered a team. They practice together regularly, they’re coached by the same two coaches, they consider/call themselves a team, and they are considered a team by the larger society (i.e., the ISL, other school tennis teams, and according to this article, the Washington Post).

You don’t have to like or support Sidwell’s varsity girls tennis team, but just like all the other Sidwell haters, YOU.WILL.DEAL.


How regularly? Specify days and times.


1. Regularly enough to have a 56-0 record;
2. Regularly enough to win a fourth straight ISL championship title; and
3. Regularly enough to be the second-ranked tennis team in the country.

Any school can attempt to do what Sidwell has done to build its girls tennis team into a national powerhouse. You’re just upset that Sidwell has actually done it. You’re also upset that Sidwell is so good at so many things. Don’t be mad, just do better.


I would assume the very top tennis players are at IMG or on the junior pro/pro circuit and homeschool. Has any Sidwell tennis player gone pro and gotten a decent ranking?

I mean the top HS boy's or girl's soccer team in the country is not really the top team considering so many of the top soccer recruits are on academy teams and not allowed to play for their high schools.



Paul Goldstein #58 in the world.


He graduated from Stanford


Paul Herbert Goldstein is a retired tennis player from the United States, who turned professional in 1998. He announced his retirement from professional tennis in February 2008, as he was starting working with a clean energy company.

He is a 1994 graduate of Sidwell Friends School in Washington, D.C., where he was a four-time Washington Post First Team All Met selection (1991–1994).

Goldstein played college tennis at Stanford University and graduated in 1998 with a degree in human biology. He was an All-American each year, and the team won the national championship each year. In his senior year he was Pac-10 Player of the Year in 1998, after a 33–2 season in which he was team captain. In 2023, Goldstein was inducted into the Stanford Athletics Hall of Fame.





Super nice guy. Total salt of the earth.
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Boarding school if they want the very best for their child.
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Anonymous wrote:Boarding school if they want the very best for their child.


Private day school if they really love (and like) their child.
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Anonymous wrote:Boarding school if they want the very best for their child.


Private day school if they really love (and like) their child.


The public schoolers all fight on their boards about public vs private. Here there’s always an undertone of boarding vs day. Please god tell me what the boarding schooler boards sit around and lament. Is it lSwiss vs English?
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Anonymous wrote:I remember when my daughter attended Holton there was a Marriott that had attended and the Reynolds had a daughter at the school too while my daughter was there.


My daughter's class had people whose names were on prominent buildings, people who owned their own planes, folks with multiple homes, and some with indoor pools in their Potomac mansions, tennis courts, you name it. Crazy rich stuff.
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Anonymous wrote:Boarding school if they want the very best for their child.


Private day school if they really love (and like) their child.



Spoken like someone who has no knowledge of boardings school, or is jealous because they aren't willing to spend that much money for their children to have a superior experience.
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Sidwell recruits kids for varsity tennis, especially in 9th grade. Two of the top four girls on the team came in as freshmen this year. They were already established players in the section and joined the team to keep its impressive stats.

The point is that other schools don’t follow the same practice, or at least not to the same extent.
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