how likely is a shutdown?

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Could those of you linking to Twitter threads link to a thread reader if there’s an option to do so? Id like to read that thread but Twitter doesn’t even open anymore for those of us not on there.

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Anonymous wrote:The Republicans in Congress will force a shutdown. Doing damage to the economy and people's real lives is a small price to pay in return for having some new talking points/lies for a few weeks. MAGA!

What damage to the economy? 88% of the federal staff will still be at work?

Get some perspective. The government is damaging the economy today.

Here’s one of the brain dead now!

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Anonymous wrote:

Could those of you linking to Twitter threads link to a thread reader if there’s an option to do so? Id like to read that thread but Twitter doesn’t even open anymore for those of us not on there.

Then maybe you should have an account just so you can read these links.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Republicans in Congress will force a shutdown. Doing damage to the economy and people's real lives is a small price to pay in return for having some new talking points/lies for a few weeks. MAGA!

What damage to the economy? 88% of the federal staff will still be at work?

Get some perspective. The government is damaging the economy today.

[Anonymous]

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The answer is No. they are ZERO Republicans willing to do this. The newbies from NY should because they are toast in 2024. If they were to cross the aisle they could campaign on keeping Govt working. But most votes who support GOP are anti- government so that won’t work.

Lie down with dogs…wake up with fleas.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

The answer is No. they are ZERO Republicans willing to do this. The newbies from NY should because they are toast in 2024. If they were to cross the aisle they could campaign on keeping Govt working. But most votes who support GOP are anti- government so that won’t work.

Lie down with dogs…wake up with fleas.

Of course there are no Republicans wiling to cross any lines. They’re an authoritarian party and they march as one. No dissension is allowed. No one thinks for themselves, no one thinks of the country. Party uber alles.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Republicans in Congress will force a shutdown. Doing damage to the economy and people's real lives is a small price to pay in return for having some new talking points/lies for a few weeks. MAGA!

What damage to the economy? 88% of the federal staff will still be at work?

Get some perspective. The government is damaging the economy today.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone want to make a bet that there is only ONE issue the Republicans are holding out for? Removal of funding for Ukraine. My guess is the Republican Party is owned by Putin.

Bingo.

Guess we will see how many Republicans are owned by Putin then.

Who raised the price of oil artificially with barriers created by executive orders to U.S. oil production and refining?

Who benefited from that price hike? Hint: the country whose number one export is oil.

US domestic oil production is at record high levels. Find a new trope.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-crude-output-rise-record-1276-mln-bpd-2023-eia-2023-08-08/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Republicans in Congress will force a shutdown. Doing damage to the economy and people's real lives is a small price to pay in return for having some new talking points/lies for a few weeks. MAGA!

What damage to the economy? 88% of the federal staff will still be at work?

Get some perspective. The government is damaging the economy today.

It’s just the GOP having another poopy diaper, isn’t it? They don’t care who might lose their apartment or whose kids don’t get fed. It’s all a game to them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The answer is No. they are ZERO Republicans willing to do this. The newbies from NY should because they are toast in 2024. If they were to cross the aisle they could campaign on keeping Govt working. But most votes who support GOP are anti- government so that won’t work.

Lie down with dogs…wake up with fleas.

Of course there are no Republicans wiling to cross any lines. They’re an authoritarian party and they march as one. No dissension is allowed. No one thinks for themselves, no one thinks of the country. Party uber alles.

McCarthy is terrible at this. The only way this ends is a repeat of the debt ceiling coalition. There is zero chance that the Freedom Caucus will vote for any final package that the Senate would pass and Biden would sign so it is a waste of time begging them to vote for a dumbass partisan fantasy House bill.

Pelosi made this stuff look easy. She cut deals with ultra-partisans McConnell and the Trump White House in 2019 and 2020, and delivered the Democratic votes to pass them, which was many times harder than negotiating with Biden and Senate Democrats who are eager to compromise. The problem always is that a Republican Speaker can’t deliver the votes for a deal. Boehner couldn’t. Ryan couldn’t. McCarthy can’t. He has to negotiate with Democrats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The answer is No. they are ZERO Republicans willing to do this. The newbies from NY should because they are toast in 2024. If they were to cross the aisle they could campaign on keeping Govt working. But most votes who support GOP are anti- government so that won’t work.

Lie down with dogs…wake up with fleas.

Of course there are no Republicans wiling to cross any lines. They’re an authoritarian party and they march as one. No dissension is allowed. No one thinks for themselves, no one thinks of the country. Party uber alles.

McCarthy is terrible at this. The only way this ends is a repeat of the debt ceiling coalition. There is zero chance that the Freedom Caucus will vote for any final package that the Senate would pass and Biden would sign so it is a waste of time begging them to vote for a dumbass partisan fantasy House bill.

Pelosi made this stuff look easy. She cut deals with ultra-partisans McConnell and the Trump White House in 2019 and 2020, and delivered the Democratic votes to pass them, which was many times harder than negotiating with Biden and Senate Democrats who are eager to compromise. The problem always is that a Republican Speaker can’t deliver the votes for a deal. Boehner couldn’t. Ryan couldn’t. McCarthy can’t. He has to negotiate with Democrats.

You're correct that Pelosi was good at this but the current situation isn't McCarthy's fault. He's no more terrible than Boehner or Ryan. The Speaker isn't the problem. The party is the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The answer is No. they are ZERO Republicans willing to do this. The newbies from NY should because they are toast in 2024. If they were to cross the aisle they could campaign on keeping Govt working. But most votes who support GOP are anti- government so that won’t work.

Lie down with dogs…wake up with fleas.

Of course there are no Republicans wiling to cross any lines. They’re an authoritarian party and they march as one. No dissension is allowed. No one thinks for themselves, no one thinks of the country. Party uber alles.

McCarthy is terrible at this. The only way this ends is a repeat of the debt ceiling coalition. There is zero chance that the Freedom Caucus will vote for any final package that the Senate would pass and Biden would sign so it is a waste of time begging them to vote for a dumbass partisan fantasy House bill.

Pelosi made this stuff look easy. She cut deals with ultra-partisans McConnell and the Trump White House in 2019 and 2020, and delivered the Democratic votes to pass them, which was many times harder than negotiating with Biden and Senate Democrats who are eager to compromise. The problem always is that a Republican Speaker can’t deliver the votes for a deal. Boehner couldn’t. Ryan couldn’t. McCarthy can’t. He has to negotiate with Democrats.

You're correct that Pelosi was good at this but the current situation isn't McCarthy's fault. He's no more terrible than Boehner or Ryan. The Speaker isn't the problem. The party is the problem.

+1

And right now the entirety of the GOP is engaging in economic terrorism. Again. No matter what cost to regular people. We have to ask ourselves why the GOP hates real Americans and wants to punish them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The answer is No. they are ZERO Republicans willing to do this. The newbies from NY should because they are toast in 2024. If they were to cross the aisle they could campaign on keeping Govt working. But most votes who support GOP are anti- government so that won’t work.

Lie down with dogs…wake up with fleas.

Of course there are no Republicans wiling to cross any lines. They’re an authoritarian party and they march as one. No dissension is allowed. No one thinks for themselves, no one thinks of the country. Party uber alles.

McCarthy is terrible at this. The only way this ends is a repeat of the debt ceiling coalition. There is zero chance that the Freedom Caucus will vote for any final package that the Senate would pass and Biden would sign so it is a waste of time begging them to vote for a dumbass partisan fantasy House bill.

Pelosi made this stuff look easy. She cut deals with ultra-partisans McConnell and the Trump White House in 2019 and 2020, and delivered the Democratic votes to pass them, which was many times harder than negotiating with Biden and Senate Democrats who are eager to compromise. The problem always is that a Republican Speaker can’t deliver the votes for a deal. Boehner couldn’t. Ryan couldn’t. McCarthy can’t. He has to negotiate with Democrats.

You're correct that Pelosi was good at this but the current situation isn't McCarthy's fault. He's no more terrible than Boehner or Ryan. The Speaker isn't the problem. The party is the problem.

It certainly is McCarthy's fault. He could just negotiate a deal with Democrats and the rump of his party that retains some level of sanity, and then pass it with overwhelming support. He won't do that because he's afraid that will lead to a motion to vacate. In other words, he's a coward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The answer is No. they are ZERO Republicans willing to do this. The newbies from NY should because they are toast in 2024. If they were to cross the aisle they could campaign on keeping Govt working. But most votes who support GOP are anti- government so that won’t work.

Lie down with dogs…wake up with fleas.

Of course there are no Republicans wiling to cross any lines. They’re an authoritarian party and they march as one. No dissension is allowed. No one thinks for themselves, no one thinks of the country. Party uber alles.

McCarthy is terrible at this. The only way this ends is a repeat of the debt ceiling coalition. There is zero chance that the Freedom Caucus will vote for any final package that the Senate would pass and Biden would sign so it is a waste of time begging them to vote for a dumbass partisan fantasy House bill.

Pelosi made this stuff look easy. She cut deals with ultra-partisans McConnell and the Trump White House in 2019 and 2020, and delivered the Democratic votes to pass them, which was many times harder than negotiating with Biden and Senate Democrats who are eager to compromise. The problem always is that a Republican Speaker can’t deliver the votes for a deal. Boehner couldn’t. Ryan couldn’t. McCarthy can’t. He has to negotiate with Democrats.

You're correct that Pelosi was good at this but the current situation isn't McCarthy's fault. He's no more terrible than Boehner or Ryan. The Speaker isn't the problem. The party is the problem.

It certainly is McCarthy's fault. He could just negotiate a deal with Democrats and the rump of his party that retains some level of sanity, and then pass it with overwhelming support. He won't do that because he's afraid that will lead to a motion to vacate. In other words, he's a coward.

He has to seriously negotiate with Democrats and tell his caucus factions to either get on the train or be left at the station. He can’t wait until the lunatic fringe is ready to deal. He has to take charge. Pelosi never let any of her factions control the process. They knew she would negotiate a deal and they could advocate for what they want in it, but then they damn well better vote for it.