People who lie about where they're from

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Anonymous wrote:A more interesting question than asking someone where they are from, is "what do you think about x or y currently in the news?" or "which book have you read recently that you'd recommend"

I lived in a lot of different places. I have an English accent and spent 20 of my 50+ years in London. I'm not "from" London but that's how people would like my existence to be framed, and I'm happy to oblige. If I've also lived in NYC for 20 years, am I not also from NYC??

No, you're not. You're "from" the place you grew up, as I suspect you well know. Why do people love to play dumb on this issue? So very strange.

France/Lebanon/Zimbabwe/Vietnam/DC/Colombia/Tunisia poster here. Can you tell me where I'm "from" please? Using your assertion that someone is from where they grew up.

Not OP but didn’t you literally just do that? 😂

Would you say I’m from Tunis because I lived there for a while in high school?

Why are you acting like that's absurd statement?

It’s not totally absurd. I lived there for a while as a teenager. I don’t have Tunisian passport or permanent resident visa. Saying I’m Tunisian would be incorrect from a citizenship point of view and it wouldn’t fully answer OP’s question. I would be lying, according to OP.

Was is during your formative years? Formative is deifned to be some abstract age range known only to OP and the definition varies according to context.

NP here. You tell me. Born in Country A (citizenship), moved to Country B at age 2. Moved back to Country A at age 10. Moved to Country C at 13.

Where am I from?

Why not name all three? Is that hard?

I lived in 9 countries by the time I turned 18. You want me to name them all? It’s just as annoying as you might imagine.

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I lived in 9 countries by the time I turned 18. You want me to name them all? It’s just as annoying as you might imagine.

But you are only *from* one. Name THAT one. (Sarcasm, ofc 😜)

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Anonymous wrote:A more interesting question than asking someone where they are from, is "what do you think about x or y currently in the news?" or "which book have you read recently that you'd recommend"

I lived in a lot of different places. I have an English accent and spent 20 of my 50+ years in London. I'm not "from" London but that's how people would like my existence to be framed, and I'm happy to oblige. If I've also lived in NYC for 20 years, am I not also from NYC??

No, you're not. You're "from" the place you grew up, as I suspect you well know. Why do people love to play dumb on this issue? So very strange.

France/Lebanon/Zimbabwe/Vietnam/DC/Colombia/Tunisia poster here. Can you tell me where I'm "from" please? Using your assertion that someone is from where they grew up.

Not OP but didn’t you literally just do that? 😂

Would you say I’m from Tunis because I lived there for a while in high school?

Why are you acting like that's absurd statement?

It’s not totally absurd. I lived there for a while as a teenager. I don’t have Tunisian passport or permanent resident visa. Saying I’m Tunisian would be incorrect from a citizenship point of view and it wouldn’t fully answer OP’s question. I would be lying, according to OP.

Was is during your formative years? Formative is deifned to be some abstract age range known only to OP and the definition varies according to context.

NP here. You tell me. Born in Country A (citizenship), moved to Country B at age 2. Moved back to Country A at age 10. Moved to Country C at 13.

Where am I from?

Why not name all three? Is that hard?

I lived in 9 countries by the time I turned 18. You want me to name them all? It’s just as annoying as you might imagine.

You are not under oath. People are just trying to get to know you. You could easily say "I grew up all over the place because of my mom's job but we've been here for 5 years." Easy. Where one is born and raised has a big impact on who you are, your values, your interests and experiences.

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Anonymous wrote:A more interesting question than asking someone where they are from, is "what do you think about x or y currently in the news?" or "which book have you read recently that you'd recommend"

I lived in a lot of different places. I have an English accent and spent 20 of my 50+ years in London. I'm not "from" London but that's how people would like my existence to be framed, and I'm happy to oblige. If I've also lived in NYC for 20 years, am I not also from NYC??

No, you're not. You're "from" the place you grew up, as I suspect you well know. Why do people love to play dumb on this issue? So very strange.

France/Lebanon/Zimbabwe/Vietnam/DC/Colombia/Tunisia poster here. Can you tell me where I'm "from" please? Using your assertion that someone is from where they grew up.

Not OP but didn’t you literally just do that? 😂

Would you say I’m from Tunis because I lived there for a while in high school?

Why are you acting like that's absurd statement?

It’s not totally absurd. I lived there for a while as a teenager. I don’t have Tunisian passport or permanent resident visa. Saying I’m Tunisian would be incorrect from a citizenship point of view and it wouldn’t fully answer OP’s question. I would be lying, according to OP.

Was is during your formative years? Formative is deifned to be some abstract age range known only to OP and the definition varies according to context.

NP here. You tell me. Born in Country A (citizenship), moved to Country B at age 2. Moved back to Country A at age 10. Moved to Country C at 13.

Where am I from?

Why not name all three? Is that hard?

I lived in 9 countries by the time I turned 18. You want me to name them all? It’s just as annoying as you might imagine.

You are not under oath. People are just trying to get to know you. You could easily say "I grew up all over the place because of my mom's job but we've been here for 5 years." Easy. Where one is born and raised has a big impact on who you are, your values, your interests and experiences.

Not born, and only the formative years apply. That's the rules.

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You are not under oath. People are just trying to get to know you. You could easily say "I grew up all over the place because of my mom's job but we've been here for 5 years." Easy. Where one is born and raised has a big impact on who you are, your values, your interests and experiences.

Conversation pro tip: don’t ask good questions to get to know someone’s values, interests, and experiences. Find out where they were born and make all those assumptions yourself based on stereotypes.

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You are not under oath. People are just trying to get to know you. You could easily say "I grew up all over the place because of my mom's job but we've been here for 5 years." Easy. Where one is born and raised has a big impact on who you are, your values, your interests and experiences.

Conversation pro tip: don’t ask good questions to get to know someone’s values, interests, and experiences. Find out where they were born and make all those assumptions yourself based on stereotypes.

Its a multi step process. Do any of you have any actual interactions with humans?

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Its a multi step process. Do any of you have any actual interactions with humans?

Yes. I get to know the person and not my stereotype of them.

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I lived in a lot of different places. I have an English accent and spent 20 of my 50+ years in London. I'm not "from" London but that's how people would like my existence to be framed, and I'm happy to oblige. If I've also lived in NYC for 20 years, am I not also from NYC??

No, you're not. You're "from" the place you grew up, as I suspect you well know. Why do people love to play dumb on this issue? So very strange.

France/Lebanon/Zimbabwe/Vietnam/DC/Colombia/Tunisia poster here. Can you tell me where I'm "from" please? Using your assertion that someone is from where they grew up.

Not OP but didn’t you literally just do that? 😂

Would you say I’m from Tunis because I lived there for a while in high school?

Why are you acting like that's absurd statement?

It’s not totally absurd. I lived there for a while as a teenager. I don’t have Tunisian passport or permanent resident visa. Saying I’m Tunisian would be incorrect from a citizenship point of view and it wouldn’t fully answer OP’s question. I would be lying, according to OP.

Was is during your formative years? Formative is deifned to be some abstract age range known only to OP and the definition varies according to context.

NP here. You tell me. Born in Country A (citizenship), moved to Country B at age 2. Moved back to Country A at age 10. Moved to Country C at 13.

Where am I from?

Why not name all three? Is that hard?

I lived in 9 countries by the time I turned 18. You want me to name them all? It’s just as annoying as you might imagine.

You are not under oath. People are just trying to get to know you. You could easily say "I grew up all over the place because of my mom's job but we've been here for 5 years." Easy. Where one is born and raised has a big impact on who you are, your values, your interests and experiences.

Not born, and only the formative years apply. That's the rules.

Whose rules?

People have been arguing against that common sense position.

For me the rules are to maintain nice social interactions in pleasant ways.

Who cares how people define where they are from? That is up to them.

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Based on this thread I'm going to start telling people my family was in the witness protection program when I was growing up so I'm not at liberty to say.

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I have never encountered anyone who lied about where they are from. Where on earth do you live?

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Anonymous wrote:I have never encountered anyone who lied about where they are from. Where on earth do you live?

OP's criteria is sufficiently vague that everyone is a liar unless you provide GPS coordinates.

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Asking where people are "from" is in order to put them in a box.

You're from London? Oh ok so you're probably highly educated and wealthy if you found your way here (DC).

You're from Nebraska? Oh you're a hick who is not worth my time....unless you're one of those outliers who attended Princeton.

Etc etc etc ad nauseam.

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Its a multi step process. Do any of you have any actual interactions with humans?

Yes. I get to know the person and not my stereotype of them.

Yeah and you do that by asking questions about their life and their experiences and opinions. One of those questions is "So, where are you from?".

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^ are you under the impression that people are walking around just asking people where they are from and then staying or walking away based on the answer?

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Anonymous wrote:I was born in Manhattan and lived in the city till I was 12.

I always find it funny when a 22 year old in a walk up sublet in Manhattan from the Midwest is from NY but I am not.

Me too!

Born in Brooklyn, went to PS 179 and my parents moved us to Rockland (half hour outside the city) when we were 11 & 13 because there was a big fight at our middle school basketball game and some rival school kids brought switchblades... that was it, they'd had it... but I'm not from the city either then I guess, lol.