Why is abortion politicized? It was Bob Jones and Jerry Falwell. Bob Jones university lost their case over segregation in the early 80s, and they hatched a plan to motivate evangelicals to the polls for political power. Abortion, which the Southern Baptist convention couldn’t decide whether or not was a sin in the mid 1970s, became the issue that worked. They ended up with a bunch of single issue voters who consistently voted for republicans. Now, they only have heavily gerrymandered districts who will primary them if they vote against these extreme abortion laws.
That was the FA stage of FAFO. This is the FO stage for republicans. |
Let’s think for a moment about why abortions in the third trimester are rare. Because it’s morally an appropriate place to draw a line. And if someone wants to cross that line and (i) the life of the mother isn’t in jeopardy but (ii) she found a doctor willing to do the procedure, I think it would be reasonable for there to be a law that generally says “don’t do that.” |
Well, we have this whole political system where we vote for people to legislate on our behalf that is playing out right now. If laws are enacted, the executive branch of the state administers them. Somewhere in that process the details of who makes that call and under what guidelines gets worked out. |
yep, and in this case, it was the people of OH, and not the extremist Rs. Same story playing out in several other states. The will of the people won. |
Again you can tart it up all you like but you have been a victim of forced birther propaganda and clearly think women are the most selfish Bs in the world, slatternly and bloodthirsty. Women are not choosing later abortions. If that is a circumstance that comes to a woman, it is not one that comes from a place of equal options. It’s really disgusting that you keep pushing this. |
I hope these voters show up in the Nov election. |
Why a law, made by politicians who have proven themselves perfectly willing to let ten year old rape victims be denied care, vs ethical guidelines by the state licensing board? They can revoke a doctors license but also are much better positioned to assess a nuanced medical situation than a politician is. |
Can a person be compelled to donate a kidney to her? She is after all a human life. |
Even if that is the case, the mother is more important (unless she decides differently). Neither you nor the state should be able to relegate the existing person to second-class based on your opinions as to who is more important. That is NOT for you to say for someone else. |
But you're assuming it should. I'm saying it should not. The state should not get to decide certain things. And this is one. If I can't be compelled to give a kidney to someone else (as someone else noted) than this is no different. None. In fact, it's way more invasive and had many risks to the mother. |
They showed up in August. They’re showing up in November. |
They are showing up in Ohio and everywhere else in November. It is obvious that the people are angry, and motivated to vote about it. |
And yet, when given the power to draw a line unconstrained by federal guidance, Florida legislated 6 weeks. Ohio legislated for enforced pregnancy of raped children. Texas legislated that women in medical distress be turned away from emergency rooms in direct contravention of federal law. These lawmakers had the opportunity to choose your “morally appropriate” line and proved the preferred to watch children go through labor and delivery of their rapists babies. They proved, in other words, what their priorities were and how deeply unfit they were to have anything to do with healthcare, especially healthcare for people they deem lesser (women). And so now the only morally defensible position is to remove that power from them in its totality and allow abortion to be regulated by healthcare professionals. |
I think abortion should be legal. But, it is only "healthcare" in extremely rare cases.
I do not understand the activists who cannot see that. Abortion is abortion. I agree with Bill Clinton, it should be "legal and rare." Unfortunately, ghouls have turned it into a routing procedure. |