Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

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Anonymous wrote:I bet it was the only bike available on the street, and she hadn’t realized he had already booked it at the very beginning, and tried to get away with taking it from him before thinking through the stupidity of her behavior. She’ll be lucky if she still has a job tomorrow.

I’m following I’m following the Hospital’s Twitter feed to see if they update her employment status.

Why would they fire her over an argument in a viral video or publicly say anything? She’s in a union. Not gonna happen.

There was never an argument over who reserved the bike. Maybe at first she didnt realize it was already assigned. Once she knew she didn’t have a bike reserved, she went directly to “HELP ME HELP ME” bs stuff we know gets black guys arrested and killed.
Terrible reaction, behavior and judgement on her part.

I see a woman being physically prevented from leaving by a larger, stronger man, and prevented from scanning a QR code on her phone, which she has out. I don’t see anything consistent with a claim that she was trying to steal a bike that someone else had rented.

This is the wildest claim made by anyone in this thread. The video doesn't remotely show that and she's free to leave whenever she wants, like she does at the end.

He’s physically holding the bike.

The bike checked out by him and on his account? Yes, yes his is holding the bike. Because if she leaves on it and doesn't return it, he's out $1000.

OK. How do you know based on this clip that it is him we’ll be out $1000 and not heard that one out $1000 if he takes this particular bike?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because her conduct is that of a person who is crazy, irrational, dishonest and/or racially biased, and she acted this way while wearing her work uniform, clearly displaying her employer’s name. That makes it her employer’s business.

That’s not what the video shows.

What the video shows is a dispute where everyone is getting upset. Whatever happened with the bike, nobody hit anyone, nobody used any racial slurs, nobody even called the police.

What IS unambiguously happening is that an internet mob is now pushing the narrative that this is a racist incident (including using racist language against her) and trying to get her fired.

People would rather pull out their phones and go viral/cancel people than call the police. She was stealing - the police would have handled it (hopefully, assuming a racist officer didn't show up)

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Anonymous wrote:I bet it was the only bike available on the street, and she hadn’t realized he had already booked it at the very beginning, and tried to get away with taking it from him before thinking through the stupidity of her behavior. She’ll be lucky if she still has a job tomorrow.

I’m following I’m following the Hospital’s Twitter feed to see if they update her employment status.

Why would they fire her over an argument in a viral video or publicly say anything? She’s in a union. Not gonna happen.

There was never an argument over who reserved the bike. Maybe at first she didnt realize it was already assigned. Once she knew she didn’t have a bike reserved, she went directly to “HELP ME HELP ME” bs stuff we know gets black guys arrested and killed.
Terrible reaction, behavior and judgement on her part.

I see a woman being physically prevented from leaving by a larger, stronger man, and prevented from scanning a QR code on her phone, which she has out. I don’t see anything consistent with a claim that she was trying to steal a bike that someone else had rented.

This is the wildest claim made by anyone in this thread. The video doesn't remotely show that and she's free to leave whenever she wants, like she does at the end.

He’s physically holding the bike.

The bike he rented through his account. The bike that he will be held financially responsible for if it gets damaged or stolen. Of course he is physically holding it!

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The video is not a good look for her. The kid is being perfectly calm and telling her it’s not her bike, while she looks and sounds nuts. She rudely snatched his phone. You’re hurting my fetus” is a super weird thing to say, especially because he was barely touching her and only incidentally because he was just trying to hold onto the bike. Sometimes these situations get taken wildly out of context but I still think there’s enough her to conclude that she was throwing an adult tantrum. Maybe she was confused about whether it was her bike but her reaction was not normal.

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If she had reserved the bike, why did she get up and hop on the other as soon as that man said something like “why can’t you rent this bike?” Seems like that would be a good time to mention she’d already rented one. Does this app even allow you to take more than one bike at a time?

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Anonymous wrote:I bet it was the only bike available on the street, and she hadn’t realized he had already booked it at the very beginning, and tried to get away with taking it from him before thinking through the stupidity of her behavior. She’ll be lucky if she still has a job tomorrow.

I’m following I’m following the Hospital’s Twitter feed to see if they update her employment status.

Why would they fire her over an argument in a viral video or publicly say anything? She’s in a union. Not gonna happen.

There was never an argument over who reserved the bike. Maybe at first she didnt realize it was already assigned. Once she knew she didn’t have a bike reserved, she went directly to “HELP ME HELP ME” bs stuff we know gets black guys arrested and killed.
Terrible reaction, behavior and judgement on her part.

I see a woman being physically prevented from leaving by a larger, stronger man, and prevented from scanning a QR code on her phone, which she has out. I don’t see anything consistent with a claim that she was trying to steal a bike that someone else had rented.

This is the wildest claim made by anyone in this thread. The video doesn't remotely show that and she's free to leave whenever she wants, like she does at the end.

He’s physically holding the bike.

The bike he rented through his account. The bike that he will be held financially responsible for if it gets damaged or stolen. Of course he is physically holding it!

There’s a whole row of bikes. How do you know which one he rented and which one she rented?

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Anonymous wrote:The video is not a good look for her. The kid is being perfectly calm and telling her it’s not her bike, while she looks and sounds nuts. She rudely snatched his phone. You’re hurting my fetus” is a super weird thing to say, especially because he was barely touching her and only incidentally because he was just trying to hold onto the bike. Sometimes these situations get taken wildly out of context but I still think there’s enough her to conclude that she was throwing an adult tantrum. Maybe she was confused about whether it was her bike but her reaction was not normal.

Exactly. It's her tantrum we are all reacting to. If she had just calmly tried to get to the bottom of it, no one would fault her.

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Anonymous wrote:If she had reserved the bike, why did she get up and hop on the other as soon as that man said something like “why can’t you rent this bike?” Seems like that would be a good time to mention she’d already rented one. Does this app even allow you to take more than one bike at a time?

I find this to be very weak evidence, that she didn’t respond to the question of someone she is in a dispute with.

[Anonymous]

I just rewatched the video, and I am even more skeptical of the narrative that she stole the bike or that she was fake crying. There are lots of ways to interpret what is happening.

One thing I notice is that a lot of people are taking the things that the men say as the truth and the things she is saying as fake. One reason for this is that the video was taken by *and narrated by* the men. The men say to her "it's not your bike" so people assume it's not her bike. The man taking the video points at her and says her tears/crying are fake, so everyone has concluded it was fake. When she stops crying, he points this out and says that's how he knows it was fake, so people watching the video believe her cries were fake and that when she stops it's evidence that they were fake.

But here's what else I see: a pregnant woman on a bike while one man holds the bike in place, tells her that she can't take it, and no fewer than THREE of his friends surround her, one taking video of the situation, all of them saying repeatedly "it's not your bike" and telling her that she's lying, her cries are fake.

I am also not convinced her crying is "fake". Watching it, she is calling out with a flat affect "help, help" barely shouting. That can read as her calling for help or it can read as her trying to scare off the FOUR men who have surrounded her on this bike by trying to attract attention to her. At one point she does shut her eyes and kind of do this shake/sob thing, but it doesn't read as fake crying to me (I have a preschooler, I know what fake crying looks like). It reads like she's tired and frustrated.

When she gets off the bike, it does not read to me like she is giving up on her ruse/con to steal a bike. It looks like she's giving up because she has been outnumbered. That's different.

Maybe he did reserve the bike. But did he reserve it after she'd already sat on it? Did he reserve it while she was standing next to it and getting her phone out of her bag to reserve it herself? Everyone is acting like she walked up and stole this bike out from under him, but how? She's literally sitting on the bike when the video starts. How did she get on a bike that someone else was in the process of reserving.

You want me to believe that this pregnant woman saw a group of four men reserving bikes, thought "haha here's my chance", walked into the middle of their group and sat on a bike while a man was standing inches away reserving it, and tried to steal it from him? I'm sorry, but I don't think that happened.

The people 100% convinced this is a "Karen" who is stealing a bike and "weaponizing white tears" need to take a step back. This video doesn't show any of the stuff you say it does. It's actually very vague.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet it was the only bike available on the street, and she hadn’t realized he had already booked it at the very beginning, and tried to get away with taking it from him before thinking through the stupidity of her behavior. She’ll be lucky if she still has a job tomorrow.

I’m following I’m following the Hospital’s Twitter feed to see if they update her employment status.

Why would they fire her over an argument in a viral video or publicly say anything? She’s in a union. Not gonna happen.

There was never an argument over who reserved the bike. Maybe at first she didnt realize it was already assigned. Once she knew she didn’t have a bike reserved, she went directly to “HELP ME HELP ME” bs stuff we know gets black guys arrested and killed.
Terrible reaction, behavior and judgement on her part.

I see a woman being physically prevented from leaving by a larger, stronger man, and prevented from scanning a QR code on her phone, which she has out. I don’t see anything consistent with a claim that she was trying to steal a bike that someone else had rented.

This is the wildest claim made by anyone in this thread. The video doesn't remotely show that and she's free to leave whenever she wants, like she does at the end.

He’s physically holding the bike.

The bike he rented through his account. The bike that he will be held financially responsible for if it gets damaged or stolen. Of course he is physically holding it!

There’s a whole row of bikes. How do you know which one he rented and which one she rented?

Sounds like she didn't rent one at all.

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Anonymous wrote:This is my experience with bike shares:

Person walks up to bike share station, identifies the bike they want to take. Sometimes you might look at a few bikes and pick one based on it's condition or whether you will need to adjust the seat.

Then you unlock the bike while either standing right next to it or sitting on it. I have never seen someone unlock a bike while standing more than a few inches from a bike. You have to scan the QR code to unlock it, so usually you are right next to it.

So I'm confused about several things:
- If he unlocked the bike, how did she manage to get on the bike? When the video starts, she's sitting on the bike. Did she walk up and sit on a bike that someone was literally holding as they unlocked it? That's extremely aggressive behavior and if that's what she did, I wish the guy in the video would just release a statement explaining it because that would clarify a lot.

- Or, assuming he unlocked the bike, did he walk away from it after unlocking it? This is unusual behavior -- people don't do this. In that case, I lean towards some kind of misunderstanding. Like if he unlocked it and walked away, and then she walked up and discovered the bike unlocked and thinks "cool, someone left it unlocked, free bike" that's not amazing behavior on her part but it's not as bad as actively trying to steal it. And then maybe when he walks up and says it's his, she's a jerk about it. This isn't a defense of her behavior, I'm just trying to understand what happened.

- Why doesn't he cancel the bike once she refuses to get off? Is that not possible? If this happened to me and someone tried to take a bike I'd paid for, that's what I'd do. And I'd tell them "ok I'm cancelling the bike and I'm going to take a photo of you and send it to them so they don't charge me." And then I'd leave and go find a different bike. Because I am not confrontational. I don't understand why their solution was to surround her (there are at least three people around her, the guy who says it's his bike, she friend who is blocking her from pulling it out, and the person filming her) and demand the bike back. That's not how I'd handle it and I think that's aggressive, conflict-seeking behavior regardless of what race you are.

I just have a lot of questions here. I get what people are saying about her "weaponized tears" and I agree she seems really manipulative there. But I can't tell if she's being manipulative because she literally stole this bike out from under him, or because she misunderstood the situation and then tried to save face, or because she genuinely thought the bike was hers and that's the tactic she was using to try and keep it, or what.

Like yeah, she weaponized tears. But he's using physical intimidation and numbers to get what he wants. Since I don't actually know what happened, I'm inclined to say they both behaved badly and I would not handle that situation the way either of them do. Almost everyone in the video except the guy who initially comes to help her and then is like "uh, I don't know what's going on, never mind" is behaving like a child. Including the guy demanding the bike and his friends. Sorry.

For the first two questions: yeah, I think it's possible that he wasn't right next to the bike when he unlocked it. He was there with a group of friends-maybe after he unlocked the bike he went over to help one of the friends adjust the seat, or give his friend something, or go use the restroom....many possibilities.

As for why he doesn't cancel it, why should he? If that was the last bike, then he needs it too to ride with his group of friends.

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Anonymous wrote:If she had reserved the bike, why did she get up and hop on the other as soon as that man said something like “why can’t you rent this bike?” Seems like that would be a good time to mention she’d already rented one. Does this app even allow you to take more than one bike at a time?

I find this to be very weak evidence, that she didn’t respond to the question of someone she is in a dispute with.

He wasn’t in the dispute.

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Anonymous wrote:She seems intoxicated. Her employer needs to do a drug screen stat!

+1 she seems intoxicated, her reaction isn’t normal. I don’t think this has anything to do with mental health.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet it was the only bike available on the street, and she hadn’t realized he had already booked it at the very beginning, and tried to get away with taking it from him before thinking through the stupidity of her behavior. She’ll be lucky if she still has a job tomorrow.

I’m following I’m following the Hospital’s Twitter feed to see if they update her employment status.

Why would they fire her over an argument in a viral video or publicly say anything? She’s in a union. Not gonna happen.

There was never an argument over who reserved the bike. Maybe at first she didnt realize it was already assigned. Once she knew she didn’t have a bike reserved, she went directly to “HELP ME HELP ME” bs stuff we know gets black guys arrested and killed.
Terrible reaction, behavior and judgement on her part.

I see a woman being physically prevented from leaving by a larger, stronger man, and prevented from scanning a QR code on her phone, which she has out. I don’t see anything consistent with a claim that she was trying to steal a bike that someone else had rented.

This is the wildest claim made by anyone in this thread. The video doesn't remotely show that and she's free to leave whenever she wants, like she does at the end.

He’s physically holding the bike.

The bike he rented through his account. The bike that he will be held financially responsible for if it gets damaged or stolen. Of course he is physically holding it!

There’s a whole row of bikes. How do you know which one he rented and which one she rented?

Sounds like she didn't rent one at all.

Based on what?

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Anonymous wrote:If she had reserved the bike, why did she get up and hop on the other as soon as that man said something like “why can’t you rent this bike?” Seems like that would be a good time to mention she’d already rented one. Does this app even allow you to take more than one bike at a time?

How did she wind up sitting on the bike if he'd already rented it? That makes no sense. If he'd rented it, wouldn't he have been holding it/sitting on it?

I think what happened is that she was in the process of getting out her phone to rent the bike and the guy got his out first and rented it. Like I think they were at the bike at the same time and he was a little faster. Which is rude, especially given that she is pregnant. And that's why she initially doesn't want to give the bike up, but eventually gets off and gets another bike.

I think these guys were being aggressive and bullying and they bullied a pregnant woman off a bike she's been getting ready to rent because there were four of them and one of her, plus they knew if they took a video of it they could call her a "Karen" and everyone would believe them.

I don't get why everyone is so convinced these guys are telling the truth. The video doesn't show any of the relevant info.