Teachers Resigning Like Crazy?

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Anonymous wrote:Covid lockdowns have proven to have been a huge mistake.

Look what happens when kids spend time with their families. Their behavior goes to s&%t.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid lockdowns have proven to have been a huge mistake.

Look what happens when kids spend time with their families. Their behavior goes to s&%t.

You know that “lockdowns” and isolation are a form of torture. Most families couldn’t afford babysitters.

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It’s not normal. A friend who teaches Sunday school just quit because in their words they couldn’t take it anymore. The behavior is out of control.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not normal. A friend who teaches Sunday school just quit because in their words they couldn’t take it anymore. The behavior is out of control.

It's proof that teachers matter more than parents in these families.

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Anonymous wrote:Things are great here in New Jersey, where the median teacher salary is above $90,000 (versus about $65,000 in Fairfax County). Of course, we pay 2x the property tax you do.

How many years of teaching with a Bachelor’s degree does it take to get up $90k? Just curious. I’m in year 11 in my district and I’m around $81k. I should get to $90k by year 20. That’s nothing to get excited about.

If salaries aren't frozen AGAIN...

I have a MA+30 and have been teaching over 20 years, but only 16 with FCPS. I barely make $90K. I've had an MA the entire time I've been teaching and added the +30 about 15 years ago, so it isn't as though those are new credentials. We've had salary and step freezes so often that I am not on the step I should be.

I've worked for 30 years professional work and make $100,000 and don't have summers off. Teaching might be harder, but there are real other jobs that make this same amount. I think the safety issues are ridiculous in the schools.

Right, but if people aren't willing to do the job, then you don't have people doing the job. That's the bottom line.

It's a necessary job, so you have to get it filled somehow. That means more salary or better benefits or something. The benefits and salary are not too much if you can't find people to do it. Obviously -- and I mean obviously -- if it was that great a trade-off, people would go into teaching from other jobs instead of just saying it's a better deal. If it were, they would do it, especially with requirements loosened.

Not really. That’s what they said about grocery store checkout employees. Should we pay checkout workers 6 figure salaries because they had to work duri by the pandemic and deal with the public and other undesirable traits of their jobs? Nope. Self checkout!

Trends are moving in different directions. Traditional styles of in person teaching are fading away. Time to rethink education.

Great sounds like you are good with having no teachers at school. Enjoy

Many schools already are moving towards flipped classrooms where 1 teacher can record the lesson for multiple classrooms. Kids watch the lesson and then complete the assignments. Many times the assignment is graded by the computer. The teacher can hold office hours for questions or respond via email. Stride K12, Connections Academy, and many others have software based learning augmented by a teacher. We won’t need as many teachers anyway. This is the future.

This is funny after how you all SCREAMED that students needed to be in the building students need to build relationships with their teachers. "just look at what covid did to our kids" LOL

Kids would still be in the school building. They could be supervised by a behavior specialist. Teaching as we know it is a dying profession. Teachers dont want the job and students learning shouldn’t be dependent on the availability of a teacher. Software and video lessons ensure continuity in learning.

Bwhahahah. No "behavior specialist" in their right mind would take that assignment. Overseeing a group of students who are sitting around supposedly learning en masse from a recorded video is not what RBTs, BCBAs, or even behavior techs do.

It could very well be what they do. Aides would work as well. Kids who would be on phones and not working would be doing that regardless of whether a teacher is trying to teach in front of them or not. The only difference would be children who want to learn could continue learning regardless of whether the teacher resigned or not.

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Why have gen x aged adults parented such brats?

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Anonymous wrote:Covid lockdowns have proven to have been a huge mistake.

Look what happens when kids spend time with their families. Their behavior goes to s&%t.

You know that “lockdowns” and isolation are a form of torture. Most families couldn’t afford babysitters.

Okay but they've been back in school for 2 years now. It's not Covid anymore. It's crappy parenting and too much screens.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers are leaving because administrators are refusing to discipline children and school systems are refusing to separate out poorly behaving/severely learning disabled children from the general education classroom. This didn't happen when we were children because kids were disciplined and because kids couldn't handle being in a general education classroom were put in separate schools. We need to go back to that model. Sorry, but equity is not working.

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I’m a speech therapist w/the schools and a mom to a SN kid- and striving for inclusion is exactly the problem. Forcing gen ed teachers to work with SN kids in the classroom is burning them out. It only takes ONE- and there’s always ONE- kid who is unmedicated ADHD or autistic or behaviorally challenged due to various delays or disorders, to completely destroy the rhythm of the classroom. The SN child is resented and underserved, the gen ed kids don’t get decent attention and the teachers are burning out like a house on fire. Inclusion DOES NOT WORK.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid lockdowns have proven to have been a huge mistake.

Look what happens when kids spend time with their families. Their behavior goes to s&%t.

You know that “lockdowns” and isolation are a form of torture. Most families couldn’t afford babysitters.

Okay but they've been back in school for 2 years now. It's not Covid anymore. It's crappy parenting and too much screens.

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I agree with this too. I work in an elementary school. So many of the elementary kids I serve are lacking basic vocabulary and grammar because they’ve sat in front of a screen. I mean it’s crazy-preschoolers and kindergarteners who can’t tell you their colors or the names of common items in the house but can talk all about Rainbow friends or Mario. It’s shocking.

Also-teachers are complaining about how parents expect them to do everything now. Potty train my kid. Get my kids to eat vegetables. Teach my child how to make friends.

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. Principals get in trouble from above for having too many suspensions or disciplinary statistics so they don’t want to follow through. Kids get way too many chances, and without documentation, nothing happens.

Now that we cannot tell a child they must stay in a designated room, because that is considered seclusion, they can wander the building at will, and do.

Special education teachers cannot keep up with the workload. It’s impossible.

I know several teachers who have been attacked by special education students, and these teachers have been out for weeks as a result. One needs surgery. When a teacher is assaulted, law enforcement is supposed to be notified, but they never do that. When a teacher is out on short-term disability, they only get paid 2/3 of their pay, even if it wasn’t their fault a child hurt them severely. They can’t work their side jobs on weekends or evenings when laid up. Bills have to be paid.

I’m seeing the same thing in Virginia Beach. Teachers injured by students: bitten, broken wrist, punched. Nothing was done by admin.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid lockdowns have proven to have been a huge mistake.

Look what happens when kids spend time with their families. Their behavior goes to s&%t.

When my 3 year old couldn't visit her favorite playground for months, yep her behavior got worse.

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Anonymous wrote:Things are great here in New Jersey, where the median teacher salary is above $90,000 (versus about $65,000 in Fairfax County). Of course, we pay 2x the property tax you do.

How many years of teaching with a Bachelor’s degree does it take to get up $90k? Just curious. I’m in year 11 in my district and I’m around $81k. I should get to $90k by year 20. That’s nothing to get excited about.

If salaries aren't frozen AGAIN...

I have a MA+30 and have been teaching over 20 years, but only 16 with FCPS. I barely make $90K. I've had an MA the entire time I've been teaching and added the +30 about 15 years ago, so it isn't as though those are new credentials. We've had salary and step freezes so often that I am not on the step I should be.

I've worked for 30 years professional work and make $100,000 and don't have summers off. Teaching might be harder, but there are real other jobs that make this same amount. I think the safety issues are ridiculous in the schools.

Right, but if people aren't willing to do the job, then you don't have people doing the job. That's the bottom line.

It's a necessary job, so you have to get it filled somehow. That means more salary or better benefits or something. The benefits and salary are not too much if you can't find people to do it. Obviously -- and I mean obviously -- if it was that great a trade-off, people would go into teaching from other jobs instead of just saying it's a better deal. If it were, they would do it, especially with requirements loosened.

Not really. That’s what they said about grocery store checkout employees. Should we pay checkout workers 6 figure salaries because they had to work duri by the pandemic and deal with the public and other undesirable traits of their jobs? Nope. Self checkout!

Trends are moving in different directions. Traditional styles of in person teaching are fading away. Time to rethink education.

Great sounds like you are good with having no teachers at school. Enjoy

Many schools already are moving towards flipped classrooms where 1 teacher can record the lesson for multiple classrooms. Kids watch the lesson and then complete the assignments. Many times the assignment is graded by the computer. The teacher can hold office hours for questions or respond via email. Stride K12, Connections Academy, and many others have software based learning augmented by a teacher. We won’t need as many teachers anyway. This is the future.

That would definitely make me pay for a private.

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Anonymous wrote:No one resigning at our elementary school.

You may not know. Unless you work there. It’s not required to notify parents. My school now has an admin aid teaching 5th grade. Parents were not told.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid lockdowns have proven to have been a huge mistake.

Look what happens when kids spend time with their families. Their behavior goes to s&%t.

You know that “lockdowns” and isolation are a form of torture. Most families couldn’t afford babysitters.

Okay but they've been back in school for 2 years now. It's not Covid anymore. It's crappy parenting and too much screens.

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I agree with this too. I work in an elementary school. So many of the elementary kids I serve are lacking basic vocabulary and grammar because they’ve sat in front of a screen. I mean it’s crazy-preschoolers and kindergarteners who can’t tell you their colors or the names of common items in the house but can talk all about Rainbow friends or Mario. It’s shocking.

Also-teachers are complaining about how parents expect them to do everything now. Potty train my kid. Get my kids to eat vegetables. Teach my child how to make friends.

My kid is in K and I have seen this too with probably 50% of her class.

However, how much do we put on parents and how much do we put on the policymakers? Many parents had to work at home and childcare wasn't available for most. Mario became the way to get that Zoom conference in. Now, the parents are lost as to what to do with their kids.

Either way, it affects both the teachers and my DD who is one of the "well-behaved ones" and never gets any attention.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this happening anywhere else? My DC's ES has has have five teachers resign mid year. Is this normal? What is happening?!

And then doing what for income?? Waitressing?
going back to school?
They are not qualified for anything else

I earn more as a professional nanny.

I left to sell cars.