Teachers Resigning Like Crazy?

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Anonymous wrote:Covid lockdowns have proven to have been a huge mistake.

Look what happens when kids spend time with their families. Their behavior goes to s&%t.

You know that “lockdowns” and isolation are a form of torture. Most families couldn’t afford babysitters.

Okay but they've been back in school for 2 years now. It's not Covid anymore. It's crappy parenting and too much screens.

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I agree with this too. I work in an elementary school. So many of the elementary kids I serve are lacking basic vocabulary and grammar because they’ve sat in front of a screen. I mean it’s crazy-preschoolers and kindergarteners who can’t tell you their colors or the names of common items in the house but can talk all about Rainbow friends or Mario. It’s shocking.

Also-teachers are complaining about how parents expect them to do everything now. Potty train my kid. Get my kids to eat vegetables. Teach my child how to make friends.

Sounds like we have nearly a whole generation of SN children. The public school system will keep burning out teachers until there’s a complete collapse.

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Meanwhile, children in Japan and China are humming along splendidly with their academics, even learning how to polish guns.

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Anonymous wrote:Things are great here in New Jersey, where the median teacher salary is above $90,000 (versus about $65,000 in Fairfax County). Of course, we pay 2x the property tax you do.

How many years of teaching with a Bachelor’s degree does it take to get up $90k? Just curious. I’m in year 11 in my district and I’m around $81k. I should get to $90k by year 20. That’s nothing to get excited about.

If salaries aren't frozen AGAIN...

I have a MA+30 and have been teaching over 20 years, but only 16 with FCPS. I barely make $90K. I've had an MA the entire time I've been teaching and added the +30 about 15 years ago, so it isn't as though those are new credentials. We've had salary and step freezes so often that I am not on the step I should be.

I've worked for 30 years professional work and make $100,000 and don't have summers off. Teaching might be harder, but there are real other jobs that make this same amount. I think the safety issues are ridiculous in the schools.

Right, but if people aren't willing to do the job, then you don't have people doing the job. That's the bottom line.

It's a necessary job, so you have to get it filled somehow. That means more salary or better benefits or something. The benefits and salary are not too much if you can't find people to do it. Obviously -- and I mean obviously -- if it was that great a trade-off, people would go into teaching from other jobs instead of just saying it's a better deal. If it were, they would do it, especially with requirements loosened.

Not really. That’s what they said about grocery store checkout employees. Should we pay checkout workers 6 figure salaries because they had to work duri by the pandemic and deal with the public and other undesirable traits of their jobs? Nope. Self checkout!

Trends are moving in different directions. Traditional styles of in person teaching are fading away. Time to rethink education.

Great sounds like you are good with having no teachers at school. Enjoy

Many schools already are moving towards flipped classrooms where 1 teacher can record the lesson for multiple classrooms. Kids watch the lesson and then complete the assignments. Many times the assignment is graded by the computer. The teacher can hold office hours for questions or respond via email. Stride K12, Connections Academy, and many others have software based learning augmented by a teacher. We won’t need as many teachers anyway. This is the future.

This is funny after how you all SCREAMED that students needed to be in the building students need to build relationships with their teachers. "just look at what covid did to our kids" LOL

Kids would still be in the school building. They could be supervised by a behavior specialist. Teaching as we know it is a dying profession. Teachers dont want the job and students learning shouldn’t be dependent on the availability of a teacher. Software and video lessons ensure continuity in learning.

Bwhahahah. No "behavior specialist" in their right mind would take that assignment. Overseeing a group of students who are sitting around supposedly learning en masse from a recorded video is not what RBTs, BCBAs, or even behavior techs do.

It could very well be what they do. Aides would work as well. Kids who would be on phones and not working would be doing that regardless of whether a teacher is trying to teach in front of them or not. The only difference would be children who want to learn could continue learning regardless of whether the teacher resigned or not.

I'm a BCBA and can tell you it's most definitely not. RBTs must work under the direction of a BCBA and are usually taking data on target behaviors or running and analyzing interventions designed and overseen by the BCBA. A decent RBT makes over $25/ hour in this area which is more than most IAs. School systems are not going to fund an RBT to babysit a group of students who are trying to learn on a screen and RBTs who are trying to get supervision hours aren't going to get them doing that. That's a classroom monitor job.

The kind of model you're talking about works okay at the secondary level with students who are self motivated and want to get into college. A warm body who makes sure the kids have power chargers and will leave the room if there's a fire is what you'll get for $15 per hour and no benefits. This does not work for a bunch of elementary schoolers or for most students with IEPs requiring specialized instruction.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid lockdowns have proven to have been a huge mistake.

Look what happens when kids spend time with their families. Their behavior goes to s&%t.

You know that “lockdowns” and isolation are a form of torture. Most families couldn’t afford babysitters.

Okay but they've been back in school for 2 years now. It's not Covid anymore. It's crappy parenting and too much screens.

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I agree with this too. I work in an elementary school. So many of the elementary kids I serve are lacking basic vocabulary and grammar because they’ve sat in front of a screen. I mean it’s crazy-preschoolers and kindergarteners who can’t tell you their colors or the names of common items in the house but can talk all about Rainbow friends or Mario. It’s shocking.

Also-teachers are complaining about how parents expect them to do everything now. Potty train my kid. Get my kids to eat vegetables. Teach my child how to make friends.

FCPS and Admin have also gone overboard adding things to teachers' plates this year:

-gen ed advisory class sizes way up with SPED kids to free up SPED teacher time
-check your advisory students' grades and help them make a plan to remediate in classes where they're doing poorly
-file weekly reports on some parts of advisory SPED kids' IEPs and 504s
-use part of planning periods to staff tardy stations and issue tardy passes
-teach SEL lessons or play prescribed games or read some assigned powerpoint to students who could not care less during EVERY advisory period
-have a discussion with every kid who is tardy/unexcused absent about why they're tardy/absent and what they can do to fix this
-design new learning activities after in-service "training" in your subject area and file reports with the central office to report on your own learning
-POGPOL stuff
-literacy in the classroom stuff
-call families after a small number of tardies and unexcused absences
-call families about F's multiple times a year
-design and implement remediation plan for students who have F's so they'll pass (if they're absent a lot and don't do their homework, how do you think the teacher is going to fix months of them not doing what they're supposed to do?)
-lots of extra meetings for compensatory services coming your way very shortly
-hours and hours and hours more of repetitive live and video training

This is in addition to:
CLT meetings
IEP/504 meetings
departmental meetings
all-hands faculty meetings

I can't imagine what they're going to add next year.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS NOW HIRING TUTORS! All subjects, all levels. P/t and w/o benefits.

$47 an hour.

Bring on the boomers!

Is this true? I'm a HS science teacher and this is more than I make an hour.

Yes, it’s been posted in the last 2 staff weekly emails

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Anonymous wrote:Why have gen x aged adults parented such brats?

Well some are Gen Y’s children as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Covid lockdowns have proven to have been a huge mistake.

Look what happens when kids spend time with their families. Their behavior goes to s&%t.

When my 3 year old couldn't visit her favorite playground for months, yep her behavior got worse.

What? When? The 2020 covid shutdowns? Your child could only develop appropriately if she had access to her one and only favorite playground in the whole world? You were unable to distract a three-year-old sufficiently? She won't even remember the deprivation now, if you mean 2020. Yes, kids need to blow off steam. No, your family should not be so very inflexible you can't take your child for a walk in the woods in the myriad county parks that were still open, even if playgrounds on them weren't. But I have no idea if your post means the brief 2020 shutting of some playgrounds because you didn't bother to give any context. Maybe you live in an apartment and hse needs outdoor time. Understandable. But...her favorite playground only?

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS NOW HIRING TUTORS! All subjects, all levels. P/t and w/o benefits.

$47 an hour.

Bring on the boomers!

Is this true? I'm a HS science teacher and this is more than I make an hour.

Yes, it’s been posted in the last 2 staff weekly emails

It has also been in their Facebook ads. I am retiring at the end of this school year and I'm thinking about looking into it a bit more. I don't know if I would need to wait out a period of separation like we do before substitute teaching or if I start this spring if I could continue during the summer and into next fall.

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I have a PhD and am a school psychologist in FCPS and make $75k ( 3 years into my career). I also have 100k in debt lol but that’s my own fault for thinking being a school psych was worth it bc I wanted to help kids lol.

Anyway, I work 40 hours a week in person and there is real pressure to work more. The majority of my friends in other fields make 70k+, work from home, and get their nails done in the middle of the day while I’m being hit by a child with emotional issues and yelled at by an advocate that I’m torturing a poor defenseless child by not giving them 1,000,000 hours of special education services.

I LOVE education but damn I do feel like the grass could be greener somewhere else.

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I’m a high school teacher with middle school and elementary aged children of my own, so I have a wide swath of ages and behaviors I’m familiar with and I’ve come to the conclusion that the children in k-12 schools today are the result of way too much exposure to screens from an early age.

They lack attention span and perseverance because they’re conditioned to have constant stimulation and a quick swipe to the next thing if they’re bored. They lack fine motor skills because they just tap and swipe from a young age. They lack reading and verbal skills because they simply receive input from a screen but rarely generate anything of their own or have to break it down themselves. They lack social skills because they don’t socialize in person as much. Their parents are helpless to turn the ship around at this point so the behaviors simply persist. It’s horrific tbh. Screens have absolutely stunted a generation of children.

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Anonymous wrote:Things are great here in New Jersey, where the median teacher salary is above $90,000 (versus about $65,000 in Fairfax County). Of course, we pay 2x the property tax you do.

How many years of teaching with a Bachelor’s degree does it take to get up $90k? Just curious. I’m in year 11 in my district and I’m around $81k. I should get to $90k by year 20. That’s nothing to get excited about.

If salaries aren't frozen AGAIN...

I have a MA+30 and have been teaching over 20 years, but only 16 with FCPS. I barely make $90K. I've had an MA the entire time I've been teaching and added the +30 about 15 years ago, so it isn't as though those are new credentials. We've had salary and step freezes so often that I am not on the step I should be.

I've worked for 30 years professional work and make $100,000 and don't have summers off. Teaching might be harder, but there are real other jobs that make this same amount. I think the safety issues are ridiculous in the schools.

Right, but if people aren't willing to do the job, then you don't have people doing the job. That's the bottom line.

It's a necessary job, so you have to get it filled somehow. That means more salary or better benefits or something. The benefits and salary are not too much if you can't find people to do it. Obviously -- and I mean obviously -- if it was that great a trade-off, people would go into teaching from other jobs instead of just saying it's a better deal. If it were, they would do it, especially with requirements loosened.

Not really. That’s what they said about grocery store checkout employees. Should we pay checkout workers 6 figure salaries because they had to work duri by the pandemic and deal with the public and other undesirable traits of their jobs? Nope. Self checkout!

Trends are moving in different directions. Traditional styles of in person teaching are fading away. Time to rethink education.

Great sounds like you are good with having no teachers at school. Enjoy

Many schools already are moving towards flipped classrooms where 1 teacher can record the lesson for multiple classrooms. Kids watch the lesson and then complete the assignments. Many times the assignment is graded by the computer. The teacher can hold office hours for questions or respond via email. Stride K12, Connections Academy, and many others have software based learning augmented by a teacher. We won’t need as many teachers anyway. This is the future.

Bwahahahahahaha. No dog in this fight because I'm out but clearly you've never been around students?

Kids watch the lesson? No, kids pull out their phones and go on Tiktok and make or watch dance or sex videos. Kids throw water bottles and pencils, and gang up on a low-status kid. Boys start rough housing or fighting, and girls get in groups and start gossiping about an outcast and bullying her. Kids leave in groups to go to the bathroom to fight or vape or take percocet laced with fentanyl and then OD. A few play video games and other sleep because they were up all night playing video games. Oh yeah, three of them actually work.
On assignments, a few kids pull out their phones and google the answers and the lazier ones just wait till they've written everything out and copy it.

Is this the majority or a subset of kids? Because ever since my kids were in ES, there has been pressure to perform and get good grades from peers. Kids start worrying about colleges way before HS. Kids in tons of ECs. Worrying about grades. Are these the same kids?

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so those of us who have kids who still have a while to graduate but can't afford private schools? what do we do? I encourage my kids to read (they love reading), they take math enrichment...but what else? Is this also an issue with kids in honors and IB/AP classes?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher with middle school and elementary aged children of my own, so I have a wide swath of ages and behaviors I’m familiar with and I’ve come to the conclusion that the children in k-12 schools today are the result of way too much exposure to screens from an early age.

They lack attention span and perseverance because they’re conditioned to have constant stimulation and a quick swipe to the next thing if they’re bored. They lack fine motor skills because they just tap and swipe from a young age. They lack reading and verbal skills because they simply receive input from a screen but rarely generate anything of their own or have to break it down themselves. They lack social skills because they don’t socialize in person as much. Their parents are helpless to turn the ship around at this point so the behaviors simply persist. It’s horrific tbh. Screens have absolutely stunted a generation of children.

Thank you for this wake-up call. Parents have got to reset priorities before it’s too late.

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Anonymous wrote:so those of us who have kids who still have a while to graduate but can't afford private schools? what do we do? I encourage my kids to read (they love reading), they take math enrichment...but what else? Is this also an issue with kids in honors and IB/AP classes?

You just parent. Yes have them read. Keep them off screens. Make them go outside. Take them places. Teach them how to interact with people and conduct basic activities. Don’t fix every problem for them. Teach them basic communication skills like a thank you card, a polite email request. Teach them problem solving skills, don’t do everything for them. I have students who will literally say “my chromebook is dead” and then stare at me like it’s impossible for them to find a solution . Ok… charge it?? “I don’t have my charger.” Ask a classmate for one? Like they can’t do this basic 1-2 step problem solving, their parents have always just done everything for them. You think it’s math or SOLs that are the most important thing but no, it’s this stuff. And so many kids cannot do these things. Will absolutely rent garments at being asked to read a book for 12 minutes or write a 5 sentence paragraph with capital letters.

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Anonymous wrote:so those of us who have kids who still have a while to graduate but can't afford private schools? what do we do? I encourage my kids to read (they love reading), they take math enrichment...but what else? Is this also an issue with kids in honors and IB/AP classes?

Screens are the biggest enemy.