The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings
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Anonymous
Why do you even care about one person's subjective bullcrap. It'll make it looking more serious with weighted combined ranking from US News 40% , WSJ/THE 20%, Niche 20% , Forbe 20% |
Anonymous
US News shouldn't be 40%. If you like US News that much just use it alone instead of creating a headache for yourself, otherwise what you're doing is shuffling US News a bit for your own liking by keeping it 40%. Tiers are more sensible anyways. For what it's worth, my tiers would be (based strongly on the balanced usage of rankings): 1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale 1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia, Northwestern 2A) Dartmouth, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona 2B) UMich, Rice, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna 3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury, Vanderbilt 3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford |
Anonymous
Happy to change it back--this is open to discussion. We are not dictating anything. Unlike OP's arbitrariness. |
Anonymous
I can live with that. Very fair. We should have consensus around this, generally. |
Anonymous
+1 except you're doing Vanderbilt dirty. Vanderbilt should be 2B. |
Anonymous
Whoops meant to reply to this one. Vanderbilt should be 2B otherwise looks solid. |
Anonymous
Very Fair Point Here is the latest: 1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale 1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia, Northwestern 2A) Dartmouth, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona 2B) UMich, Rice, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna 3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury, Vanderbilt 3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford |
Anonymous
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Updated:
1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale 1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia, Northwestern 2A) Dartmouth, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona 2B) UMich, Rice, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna, Vanderbilt 3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury 3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford |
Anonymous
Agree with this. |
Anonymous
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I think we have come up with a much better top 50 list with the tier approach compared to magazine ranks. Sorry Florida State, you are not top 50.
1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale 1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia 2A) Dartmouth, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona, Northwestern 2B) UMich, Rice, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna 3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury, Vanderbilt 3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford |
Anonymous
This looks good to me although I don't think Dartmouth should be in 1B instead of Northwestern. I see 1B as the schools that are basically interchangeable with 1A but for different types of students. MIT matches up extremely well with Caltech, as both are highly technical and rigorous schools, but Caltech is more geared towards exceptional researchers. Stanford matches up well with Duke as both are entrepreneurial schools in a sunny/warm backdrop with exceptional sports programs that match their high caliber of academics, but Duke has more school spirit and a sense of togetherness at the undergraduate level. Harvard matches up well with Penn as both are more urban schools with extremely strong finance prospects, but Penn is more hardcore for pure business due to Wharton. Yale matches well with Columbia as both schools are the more arts-leaning elite universities, but Columbia is a better fit for students who want a faster pace of life. Princeton's best match would be Dartmouth as both schools offer intimate and heavily undergraduate-focused experiences, although Dartmouth is more geared for kids who want a more isolated and nature-based college tenure. I would go: 1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale 1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia, Dartmouth 2A) Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona 2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna 3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury 3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford |
Anonymous
I'm good with tier. Its not what I like or hate. USN&WR is the most influential and popular. Not all rankings are created equal . It's the reality. If you created a list just for you. Keep it on your dairy. Tat needs to be rf |
Anonymous
This looks good to me although I don't think Dartmouth should be in 1B instead of Northwestern. I see 1B as the schools that are basically interchangeable with 1A but for different types of students. MIT matches up extremely well with Caltech, as both are highly technical and rigorous schools, but Caltech is more geared towards exceptional researchers. Stanford matches up well with Duke as both are entrepreneurial schools in a sunny/warm backdrop with exceptional sports programs that match their high caliber of academics, but Duke has more school spirit and a sense of togetherness at the undergraduate level. Harvard matches up well with Penn as both are more urban schools with extremely strong finance prospects, but Penn is more hardcore for pure business due to Wharton. Yale matches well with Columbia as both schools are the more arts-leaning elite universities, but Columbia is a better fit for students who want a faster pace of life. Princeton's best match would be Dartmouth as both schools offer intimate and heavily undergraduate-focused experiences, although Dartmouth is more geared for kids who want a more isolated and nature-based college tenure. I would go: 1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale 1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia, Dartmouth 2A) Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona 2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna 3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury 3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford You make some interesting points but I look at it a bit differently. To me 1B is the set of schools that are right there with 1A overall or have a claim to 1A, but just haven't popularly been anointed that yet. I honestly think Yale is on its way out of 1A anyways, and that one of the 1B schools can replace it in the near future. But to me 1B is only Caltech, Duke, Penn, and Columbia, no fifth option. I don't think Dartmouth (or Northwestern for that matter) really has a claim at being 1A. For me it's: 1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale 1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia 2A) Northwestern, Dartmouth, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona 2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna 3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury 3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford |
Anonymous
+1 |
Anonymous
Solid but Vanderbilt is 2B, pretty disrespectful to put it at 3A in my opinion. |