Science says: never get rid of AAP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people think Massachusetts has the best schools and they don’t really do anything like AAP in majority of districts and schools… can’t name one district that does, but could be a few. So no, I don’t think it’s necessary.

Because its school systems are much smaller and segregated. The best schools have mostly well off parents. Biggest predictor of academic success is family SES/parents educational level. They don't need AAP. Read between the lines in this forum. AAP is as much about selecting a "good peer group" as it is about the academic challenge.

The problem is that in FCPS, "selecting a good peer group" and receiving "academic challenge" are basically the same thing. Since FCPS prioritizes focusing on the kids who are behind and ignoring the kids who are ahead, it is impossible to get academic challenge for an above average kid in a gen ed class with too many kids who are behind. UMC kids with educated parents don't need AAP or any self contained program. They do still need some reasonable share of the teacher's attention as well as some reasonable attempt by the teacher to challenge them.

Final statement on all this

AAP is a way to cheat they system by buying in a crappy school district to save on housing costs and still getting a better off education

The choices are

1. Spend the money on housing to be in a decent pyramid or

2. Save money on housing and go to a private school

Bottom line you should be required to pay for the best education, none of this free riding AAP bs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people think Massachusetts has the best schools and they don’t really do anything like AAP in majority of districts and schools… can’t name one district that does, but could be a few. So no, I don’t think it’s necessary.

Because its school systems are much smaller and segregated. The best schools have mostly well off parents. Biggest predictor of academic success is family SES/parents educational level. They don't need AAP. Read between the lines in this forum. AAP is as much about selecting a "good peer group" as it is about the academic challenge.

The problem is that in FCPS, "selecting a good peer group" and receiving "academic challenge" are basically the same thing. Since FCPS prioritizes focusing on the kids who are behind and ignoring the kids who are ahead, it is impossible to get academic challenge for an above average kid in a gen ed class with too many kids who are behind. UMC kids with educated parents don't need AAP or any self contained program. They do still need some reasonable share of the teacher's attention as well as some reasonable attempt by the teacher to challenge them.

Final statement on all this

AAP is a way to cheat they system by buying in a crappy school district to save on housing costs and still getting a better off education

The choices are

1. Spend the money on housing to be in a decent pyramid or

2. Save money on housing and go to a private school

Bottom line you should be required to pay for the best education, none of this free riding AAP bs.

Buying a gifted diagnosis is a lot cheaper than private school and it allows parents who care about education to self select.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people think Massachusetts has the best schools and they don’t really do anything like AAP in majority of districts and schools… can’t name one district that does, but could be a few. So no, I don’t think it’s necessary.

Because its school systems are much smaller and segregated. The best schools have mostly well off parents. Biggest predictor of academic success is family SES/parents educational level. They don't need AAP. Read between the lines in this forum. AAP is as much about selecting a "good peer group" as it is about the academic challenge.

The problem is that in FCPS, "selecting a good peer group" and receiving "academic challenge" are basically the same thing. Since FCPS prioritizes focusing on the kids who are behind and ignoring the kids who are ahead, it is impossible to get academic challenge for an above average kid in a gen ed class with too many kids who are behind. UMC kids with educated parents don't need AAP or any self contained program. They do still need some reasonable share of the teacher's attention as well as some reasonable attempt by the teacher to challenge them.

Final statement on all this

AAP is a way to cheat they system by buying in a crappy school district to save on housing costs and still getting a better off education

The choices are

1. Spend the money on housing to be in a decent pyramid or

2. Save money on housing and go to a private school

Bottom line you should be required to pay for the best education, none of this free riding AAP bs.

Buying a gifted diagnosis is a lot cheaper than private school and it allows parents who care about education to self select.

That's just another point showing the whole concept of AAP is a fraud

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people think Massachusetts has the best schools and they don’t really do anything like AAP in majority of districts and schools… can’t name one district that does, but could be a few. So no, I don’t think it’s necessary.

Because its school systems are much smaller and segregated. The best schools have mostly well off parents. Biggest predictor of academic success is family SES/parents educational level. They don't need AAP. Read between the lines in this forum. AAP is as much about selecting a "good peer group" as it is about the academic challenge.

The problem is that in FCPS, "selecting a good peer group" and receiving "academic challenge" are basically the same thing. Since FCPS prioritizes focusing on the kids who are behind and ignoring the kids who are ahead, it is impossible to get academic challenge for an above average kid in a gen ed class with too many kids who are behind. UMC kids with educated parents don't need AAP or any self contained program. They do still need some reasonable share of the teacher's attention as well as some reasonable attempt by the teacher to challenge them.

Final statement on all this

AAP is a way to cheat they system by buying in a crappy school district to save on housing costs and still getting a better off education

The choices are

1. Spend the money on housing to be in a decent pyramid or

2. Save money on housing and go to a private school

Bottom line you should be required to pay for the best education, none of this free riding AAP bs.

Buying a gifted diagnosis is a lot cheaper than private school and it allows parents who care about education to self select.

That’s not the way this works. FCPS does not use test scores from unknown entities. GMU provides sliding scales for tests, so they are available to all. There is no buying your way into AAP in FCPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people think Massachusetts has the best schools and they don’t really do anything like AAP in majority of districts and schools… can’t name one district that does, but could be a few. So no, I don’t think it’s necessary.

Because its school systems are much smaller and segregated. The best schools have mostly well off parents. Biggest predictor of academic success is family SES/parents educational level. They don't need AAP. Read between the lines in this forum. AAP is as much about selecting a "good peer group" as it is about the academic challenge.

The problem is that in FCPS, "selecting a good peer group" and receiving "academic challenge" are basically the same thing. Since FCPS prioritizes focusing on the kids who are behind and ignoring the kids who are ahead, it is impossible to get academic challenge for an above average kid in a gen ed class with too many kids who are behind. UMC kids with educated parents don't need AAP or any self contained program. They do still need some reasonable share of the teacher's attention as well as some reasonable attempt by the teacher to challenge them.

Final statement on all this

AAP is a way to cheat they system by buying in a crappy school district to save on housing costs and still getting a better off education

The choices are

1. Spend the money on housing to be in a decent pyramid or

2. Save money on housing and go to a private school

Bottom line you should be required to pay for the best education, none of this free riding AAP bs.

Buying a gifted diagnosis is a lot cheaper than private school and it allows parents who care about education to self select.

That’s not the way this works. FCPS does not use test scores from unknown entities. GMU provides sliding scales for tests, so they are available to all. There is no buying your way into AAP in FCPS.

Sure LOL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people think Massachusetts has the best schools and they don’t really do anything like AAP in majority of districts and schools… can’t name one district that does, but could be a few. So no, I don’t think it’s necessary.

Because its school systems are much smaller and segregated. The best schools have mostly well off parents. Biggest predictor of academic success is family SES/parents educational level. They don't need AAP. Read between the lines in this forum. AAP is as much about selecting a "good peer group" as it is about the academic challenge.

The problem is that in FCPS, "selecting a good peer group" and receiving "academic challenge" are basically the same thing. Since FCPS prioritizes focusing on the kids who are behind and ignoring the kids who are ahead, it is impossible to get academic challenge for an above average kid in a gen ed class with too many kids who are behind. UMC kids with educated parents don't need AAP or any self contained program. They do still need some reasonable share of the teacher's attention as well as some reasonable attempt by the teacher to challenge them.

Final statement on all this

AAP is a way to cheat they system by buying in a crappy school district to save on housing costs and still getting a better off education

The choices are

1. Spend the money on housing to be in a decent pyramid or

2. Save money on housing and go to a private school

Bottom line you should be required to pay for the best education, none of this free riding AAP bs.

Buying a gifted diagnosis is a lot cheaper than private school and it allows parents who care about education to self select.

That's just another point showing the whole concept of AAP is a fraud

And having to be rich to buy into a good school for your kid isn’t? Wtf is wrong with you people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people think Massachusetts has the best schools and they don’t really do anything like AAP in majority of districts and schools… can’t name one district that does, but could be a few. So no, I don’t think it’s necessary.

Because its school systems are much smaller and segregated. The best schools have mostly well off parents. Biggest predictor of academic success is family SES/parents educational level. They don't need AAP. Read between the lines in this forum. AAP is as much about selecting a "good peer group" as it is about the academic challenge.

The problem is that in FCPS, "selecting a good peer group" and receiving "academic challenge" are basically the same thing. Since FCPS prioritizes focusing on the kids who are behind and ignoring the kids who are ahead, it is impossible to get academic challenge for an above average kid in a gen ed class with too many kids who are behind. UMC kids with educated parents don't need AAP or any self contained program. They do still need some reasonable share of the teacher's attention as well as some reasonable attempt by the teacher to challenge them.

Final statement on all this

AAP is a way to cheat they system by buying in a crappy school district to save on housing costs and still getting a better off education

The choices are

1. Spend the money on housing to be in a decent pyramid or

2. Save money on housing and go to a private school

Bottom line you should be required to pay for the best education, none of this free riding AAP bs.

Buying a gifted diagnosis is a lot cheaper than private school and it allows parents who care about education to self select.

That’s not the way this works. FCPS does not use test scores from unknown entities. GMU provides sliding scales for tests, so they are available to all. There is no buying your way into AAP in FCPS.

You must be naive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people think Massachusetts has the best schools and they don’t really do anything like AAP in majority of districts and schools… can’t name one district that does, but could be a few. So no, I don’t think it’s necessary.

Because its school systems are much smaller and segregated. The best schools have mostly well off parents. Biggest predictor of academic success is family SES/parents educational level. They don't need AAP. Read between the lines in this forum. AAP is as much about selecting a "good peer group" as it is about the academic challenge.

The problem is that in FCPS, "selecting a good peer group" and receiving "academic challenge" are basically the same thing. Since FCPS prioritizes focusing on the kids who are behind and ignoring the kids who are ahead, it is impossible to get academic challenge for an above average kid in a gen ed class with too many kids who are behind. UMC kids with educated parents don't need AAP or any self contained program. They do still need some reasonable share of the teacher's attention as well as some reasonable attempt by the teacher to challenge them.

Final statement on all this

AAP is a way to cheat they system by buying in a crappy school district to save on housing costs and still getting a better off education

The choices are

1. Spend the money on housing to be in a decent pyramid or

2. Save money on housing and go to a private school

Bottom line you should be required to pay for the best education, none of this free riding AAP bs.

Buying a gifted diagnosis is a lot cheaper than private school and it allows parents who care about education to self select.

That’s not the way this works. FCPS does not use test scores from unknown entities. GMU provides sliding scales for tests, so they are available to all. There is no buying your way into AAP in FCPS.

You must be naive.

In practice people file appeals and get a favorable private diagnosis to get their kids into AAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people think Massachusetts has the best schools and they don’t really do anything like AAP in majority of districts and schools… can’t name one district that does, but could be a few. So no, I don’t think it’s necessary.

Because its school systems are much smaller and segregated. The best schools have mostly well off parents. Biggest predictor of academic success is family SES/parents educational level. They don't need AAP. Read between the lines in this forum. AAP is as much about selecting a "good peer group" as it is about the academic challenge.

The problem is that in FCPS, "selecting a good peer group" and receiving "academic challenge" are basically the same thing. Since FCPS prioritizes focusing on the kids who are behind and ignoring the kids who are ahead, it is impossible to get academic challenge for an above average kid in a gen ed class with too many kids who are behind. UMC kids with educated parents don't need AAP or any self contained program. They do still need some reasonable share of the teacher's attention as well as some reasonable attempt by the teacher to challenge them.

Final statement on all this

AAP is a way to cheat they system by buying in a crappy school district to save on housing costs and still getting a better off education

The choices are

1. Spend the money on housing to be in a decent pyramid or

2. Save money on housing and go to a private school

Bottom line you should be required to pay for the best education, none of this free riding AAP bs.

Buying a gifted diagnosis is a lot cheaper than private school and it allows parents who care about education to self select.

That’s not the way this works. FCPS does not use test scores from unknown entities. GMU provides sliding scales for tests, so they are available to all. There is no buying your way into AAP in FCPS.

You must be naive.

In practice people file appeals and get a favorable private diagnosis to get their kids into AAP.

Snowflakes don't want to talk about that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people think Massachusetts has the best schools and they don’t really do anything like AAP in majority of districts and schools… can’t name one district that does, but could be a few. So no, I don’t think it’s necessary.

Because its school systems are much smaller and segregated. The best schools have mostly well off parents. Biggest predictor of academic success is family SES/parents educational level. They don't need AAP. Read between the lines in this forum. AAP is as much about selecting a "good peer group" as it is about the academic challenge.

The problem is that in FCPS, "selecting a good peer group" and receiving "academic challenge" are basically the same thing. Since FCPS prioritizes focusing on the kids who are behind and ignoring the kids who are ahead, it is impossible to get academic challenge for an above average kid in a gen ed class with too many kids who are behind. UMC kids with educated parents don't need AAP or any self contained program. They do still need some reasonable share of the teacher's attention as well as some reasonable attempt by the teacher to challenge them.

Final statement on all this

AAP is a way to cheat they system by buying in a crappy school district to save on housing costs and still getting a better off education

The choices are

1. Spend the money on housing to be in a decent pyramid or

2. Save money on housing and go to a private school

Bottom line you should be required to pay for the best education, none of this free riding AAP bs.

Buying a gifted diagnosis is a lot cheaper than private school and it allows parents who care about education to self select.

That’s not the way this works. FCPS does not use test scores from unknown entities. GMU provides sliding scales for tests, so they are available to all. There is no buying your way into AAP in FCPS.

You must be naive.

In practice people file appeals and get a favorable private diagnosis to get their kids into AAP.

That hasn't worked for at least 4 years. You possibly could find a psychologist who would give your child an unearned 140 IQ. FCPS AAP committee doesn't care and will mostly ignore the WISC. Plenty of people appeal with high IQ scores. Their kids still don't get admitted on appeal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people think Massachusetts has the best schools and they don’t really do anything like AAP in majority of districts and schools… can’t name one district that does, but could be a few. So no, I don’t think it’s necessary.

Because its school systems are much smaller and segregated. The best schools have mostly well off parents. Biggest predictor of academic success is family SES/parents educational level. They don't need AAP. Read between the lines in this forum. AAP is as much about selecting a "good peer group" as it is about the academic challenge.

The problem is that in FCPS, "selecting a good peer group" and receiving "academic challenge" are basically the same thing. Since FCPS prioritizes focusing on the kids who are behind and ignoring the kids who are ahead, it is impossible to get academic challenge for an above average kid in a gen ed class with too many kids who are behind. UMC kids with educated parents don't need AAP or any self contained program. They do still need some reasonable share of the teacher's attention as well as some reasonable attempt by the teacher to challenge them.

Final statement on all this

AAP is a way to cheat they system by buying in a crappy school district to save on housing costs and still getting a better off education

The choices are

1. Spend the money on housing to be in a decent pyramid or

2. Save money on housing and go to a private school

Bottom line you should be required to pay for the best education, none of this free riding AAP bs.

Buying a gifted diagnosis is a lot cheaper than private school and it allows parents who care about education to self select.

That’s not the way this works. FCPS does not use test scores from unknown entities. GMU provides sliding scales for tests, so they are available to all. There is no buying your way into AAP in FCPS.

You must be naive.

In practice people file appeals and get a favorable private diagnosis to get their kids into AAP.

That hasn't worked for at least 4 years. You possibly could find a psychologist who would give your child an unearned 140 IQ. FCPS AAP committee doesn't care and will mostly ignore the WISC. Plenty of people appeal with high IQ scores. Their kids still don't get admitted on appeal.

Plenty do get in.

[Anonymous]

Let's do something about the parents who buy their into AAP for their average snowflakes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people think Massachusetts has the best schools and they don’t really do anything like AAP in majority of districts and schools… can’t name one district that does, but could be a few. So no, I don’t think it’s necessary.

Because its school systems are much smaller and segregated. The best schools have mostly well off parents. Biggest predictor of academic success is family SES/parents educational level. They don't need AAP. Read between the lines in this forum. AAP is as much about selecting a "good peer group" as it is about the academic challenge.

The problem is that in FCPS, "selecting a good peer group" and receiving "academic challenge" are basically the same thing. Since FCPS prioritizes focusing on the kids who are behind and ignoring the kids who are ahead, it is impossible to get academic challenge for an above average kid in a gen ed class with too many kids who are behind. UMC kids with educated parents don't need AAP or any self contained program. They do still need some reasonable share of the teacher's attention as well as some reasonable attempt by the teacher to challenge them.

Final statement on all this

AAP is a way to cheat they system by buying in a crappy school district to save on housing costs and still getting a better off education

The choices are

1. Spend the money on housing to be in a decent pyramid or

2. Save money on housing and go to a private school

Bottom line you should be required to pay for the best education, none of this free riding AAP bs.

And OP doesn't understand what "science" is saying. AAP isn't tracking. It's just an elaborate system to allow parents to segregate.

[Anonymous]

NP, the vaaaaast majority of AAP kids weren't admitted with any sort of private/outside testing... and even for those who did have an outside score, most of that is coming from GMU. I'm sure there may be a few of such cases with shady psychs where people can "buy" an unearned score (and the score alone isn't sufficient either), but we're talking way in the margins here. To act as if that somehow is "how the system works" just demonstrates a basic lack of understanding about the program, or, more likely, some sort of grudge or hangup that a small number of posters can't seem to shake.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people think Massachusetts has the best schools and they don’t really do anything like AAP in majority of districts and schools… can’t name one district that does, but could be a few. So no, I don’t think it’s necessary.

Because its school systems are much smaller and segregated. The best schools have mostly well off parents. Biggest predictor of academic success is family SES/parents educational level. They don't need AAP. Read between the lines in this forum. AAP is as much about selecting a "good peer group" as it is about the academic challenge.

The problem is that in FCPS, "selecting a good peer group" and receiving "academic challenge" are basically the same thing. Since FCPS prioritizes focusing on the kids who are behind and ignoring the kids who are ahead, it is impossible to get academic challenge for an above average kid in a gen ed class with too many kids who are behind. UMC kids with educated parents don't need AAP or any self contained program. They do still need some reasonable share of the teacher's attention as well as some reasonable attempt by the teacher to challenge them.

Final statement on all this

AAP is a way to cheat they system by buying in a crappy school district to save on housing costs and still getting a better off education

The choices are

1. Spend the money on housing to be in a decent pyramid or

2. Save money on housing and go to a private school

Bottom line you should be required to pay for the best education, none of this free riding AAP bs.

Buying a gifted diagnosis is a lot cheaper than private school and it allows parents who care about education to self select.

That’s not the way this works. FCPS does not use test scores from unknown entities. GMU provides sliding scales for tests, so they are available to all. There is no buying your way into AAP in FCPS.

You must be naive.

In practice people file appeals and get a favorable private diagnosis to get their kids into AAP.

People file appeals and take their kids to get the WISC because they know that their kid is smart. Do you think if someone's kid gets a 100 on the CogAt that they're going to go out and get a 130+ on the WISC?