APS COVID Tests for Spring Break - What percentage do you estimate are going straight in the trash?

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Anonymous wrote:I have two kids in APS and things don’t seem to be falling apart at all.

Interesting.

I know tons of APS families down with COVID. It’s spreading like crazy out there!

+1

Highest levels aside from the omicron winter wave.

And? COVID will be here forever, and everyone will get it. We've all had it and are done with any of this nonsense testing or restrictions. Living normal and not even thinking about it.

And it's super disruptive if tons of teachers and kids are out sick. Do you shrug at a norovirus outbreak? Just resign yourself to puking for three days? I'm not gojng to stick my head in the sand and have my family catch covid and spend a week or more feeling awful. We should all be outside as much as possible and masking inside with well fitting N95s/KN95s. There's a wave right now. Let's take sensible measures.

Serious question. Do you think the masking helped in January? I know your answer will be yes. My answer would be probably some but also not as much as you think it did. I've seen how little kids wear masks. I've also seen what the high school kids do on the weekends and how much the mask is around their chins.

You all think we have way more control than we really do. That we could just mask harder and this would stop happening to us collectively. No. The wave is going to come and go. If you personally really want to do everything possible to make sure you and your family don't get it during this wave, which will go on regardless and would be happening even if there was still an APS mask mandate, wear an N95 at all times and put the fear of god in your children and tell them not to eat snack in class and hope that they actually wear their mask correctly all day. That's really the best you're going to be able to do anymore. Also, don't go inside unmasked with anyone. Those are all things within your control.

I do think masks help. I also think it would help if adults would tell their kids that there is a wave and we expect it to last 3-4 weeks. During that time we should all mask up properly and do what we can to keep others healthy. It won't last forever. Let's buckle down for a few weeks.

For teens there are important events like AP tests, senior activities, sports matches, etc, and we want everyone to stay healthy so they can attend. You should wear a mask so you stay healthy and can attend and so your friends can too. The same goes for younger students too. My elementary students are masking up so they can go to their dance recital, birthday parties and soccer games. Unlike January the weather is good now. We can all open windows and be outside as much as possible.

I'm not some extremist who thinks we should all stay home and close schools. But I also think it's ridiculous that we ignore a wave that is making many people sick right now. Kids and teens take their cues from adults and right now many adults are sending a shitty message that masks don't matter. Change the message.

How do you know people haven't said these things to their kids and the kids still don't wear their masks?

Not being snarky. Going mask optional just made it really difficult to force the younger kids to wear the masks. There was a lot behind the group norming and uniformity of everyone is wearing it.

We had a school assembly and those parents weren't wearing masks either. It's a pretty darn good correlation between parents and kids.

Oh. Because I wear a mask indoors and I have a child with glasses who has hated masking the entire time and her teacher told me when I asked that she was liberally not wearing her mask during the day ("forgetting" after snack or recess) or putting it under her nose but the teacher can't say anything to her.

But keep judging. Says a lot about you that you have "those parents" all sorted out and know who each child's parents are though.

So your read of what I said is that I was specifically talking about you and your special snowflake? Perhaps in addition to working on your parenting skills, you should also work on your reading comprehension.

It's clear many parents are not sending the message that masking is important. Read this thread if you want evidence.

It's an example that should make you realize, gee maybe I don't have all the information about everyone's situation. Wow, I think I know all the things and I tend to make a lot of assumptions and judge people. Maybe I should think twice about that.

That kind of a-ha moment.

I have more than enough information to know that masking is important and that we're in a surge that should last for a few weeks. I also don't buy into some notion that we should throw our hands in the air and give up completely on trying to prevent spread because of a few special snowflakes. So what's your point because I don't see one.

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Anonymous wrote:I have two kids in APS and things don’t seem to be falling apart at all.

Interesting.

I know tons of APS families down with COVID. It’s spreading like crazy out there!

+1

Highest levels aside from the omicron winter wave.

And? COVID will be here forever, and everyone will get it. We've all had it and are done with any of this nonsense testing or restrictions. Living normal and not even thinking about it.

And it's super disruptive if tons of teachers and kids are out sick. Do you shrug at a norovirus outbreak? Just resign yourself to puking for three days? I'm not gojng to stick my head in the sand and have my family catch covid and spend a week or more feeling awful. We should all be outside as much as possible and masking inside with well fitting N95s/KN95s. There's a wave right now. Let's take sensible measures.

Serious question. Do you think the masking helped in January? I know your answer will be yes. My answer would be probably some but also not as much as you think it did. I've seen how little kids wear masks. I've also seen what the high school kids do on the weekends and how much the mask is around their chins.

You all think we have way more control than we really do. That we could just mask harder and this would stop happening to us collectively. No. The wave is going to come and go. If you personally really want to do everything possible to make sure you and your family don't get it during this wave, which will go on regardless and would be happening even if there was still an APS mask mandate, wear an N95 at all times and put the fear of god in your children and tell them not to eat snack in class and hope that they actually wear their mask correctly all day. That's really the best you're going to be able to do anymore. Also, don't go inside unmasked with anyone. Those are all things within your control.

I do think masks help. I also think it would help if adults would tell their kids that there is a wave and we expect it to last 3-4 weeks. During that time we should all mask up properly and do what we can to keep others healthy. It won't last forever. Let's buckle down for a few weeks.

For teens there are important events like AP tests, senior activities, sports matches, etc, and we want everyone to stay healthy so they can attend. You should wear a mask so you stay healthy and can attend and so your friends can too. The same goes for younger students too. My elementary students are masking up so they can go to their dance recital, birthday parties and soccer games. Unlike January the weather is good now. We can all open windows and be outside as much as possible.

I'm not some extremist who thinks we should all stay home and close schools. But I also think it's ridiculous that we ignore a wave that is making many people sick right now. Kids and teens take their cues from adults and right now many adults are sending a shitty message that masks don't matter. Change the message.

I agree with you but they are taking off masks to eat, which basically erases the risk budget.

Fundamentally, we just need to stop testing exposure and only test symptomatic for folks who might require antivirals.

And I was a strident lockdown, mask, advocate and I actually hoped we would have a rapid test way out (AM test every day for daily clear passport) but that is where we are.

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Anonymous wrote:I have two kids in APS and things don’t seem to be falling apart at all.

Interesting.

I know tons of APS families down with COVID. It’s spreading like crazy out there!

+1

Highest levels aside from the omicron winter wave.

And? COVID will be here forever, and everyone will get it. We've all had it and are done with any of this nonsense testing or restrictions. Living normal and not even thinking about it.

And it's super disruptive if tons of teachers and kids are out sick. Do you shrug at a norovirus outbreak? Just resign yourself to puking for three days? I'm not gojng to stick my head in the sand and have my family catch covid and spend a week or more feeling awful. We should all be outside as much as possible and masking inside with well fitting N95s/KN95s. There's a wave right now. Let's take sensible measures.

Serious question. Do you think the masking helped in January? I know your answer will be yes. My answer would be probably some but also not as much as you think it did. I've seen how little kids wear masks. I've also seen what the high school kids do on the weekends and how much the mask is around their chins.

You all think we have way more control than we really do. That we could just mask harder and this would stop happening to us collectively. No. The wave is going to come and go. If you personally really want to do everything possible to make sure you and your family don't get it during this wave, which will go on regardless and would be happening even if there was still an APS mask mandate, wear an N95 at all times and put the fear of god in your children and tell them not to eat snack in class and hope that they actually wear their mask correctly all day. That's really the best you're going to be able to do anymore. Also, don't go inside unmasked with anyone. Those are all things within your control.

I do think masks help. I also think it would help if adults would tell their kids that there is a wave and we expect it to last 3-4 weeks. During that time we should all mask up properly and do what we can to keep others healthy. It won't last forever. Let's buckle down for a few weeks.

For teens there are important events like AP tests, senior activities, sports matches, etc, and we want everyone to stay healthy so they can attend. You should wear a mask so you stay healthy and can attend and so your friends can too. The same goes for younger students too. My elementary students are masking up so they can go to their dance recital, birthday parties and soccer games. Unlike January the weather is good now. We can all open windows and be outside as much as possible.

I'm not some extremist who thinks we should all stay home and close schools. But I also think it's ridiculous that we ignore a wave that is making many people sick right now. Kids and teens take their cues from adults and right now many adults are sending a shitty message that masks don't matter. Change the message.

How do you know people haven't said these things to their kids and the kids still don't wear their masks?

Not being snarky. Going mask optional just made it really difficult to force the younger kids to wear the masks. There was a lot behind the group norming and uniformity of everyone is wearing it.

We had a school assembly and those parents weren't wearing masks either. It's a pretty darn good correlation between parents and kids.

Oh. Because I wear a mask indoors and I have a child with glasses who has hated masking the entire time and her teacher told me when I asked that she was liberally not wearing her mask during the day ("forgetting" after snack or recess) or putting it under her nose but the teacher can't say anything to her.

But keep judging. Says a lot about you that you have "those parents" all sorted out and know who each child's parents are though.

So your read of what I said is that I was specifically talking about you and your special snowflake? Perhaps in addition to working on your parenting skills, you should also work on your reading comprehension.

It's clear many parents are not sending the message that masking is important. Read this thread if you want evidence.

It's an example that should make you realize, gee maybe I don't have all the information about everyone's situation. Wow, I think I know all the things and I tend to make a lot of assumptions and judge people. Maybe I should think twice about that.

That kind of a-ha moment.

I have more than enough information to know that masking is important and that we're in a surge that should last for a few weeks. I also don't buy into some notion that we should throw our hands in the air and give up completely on trying to prevent spread because of a few special snowflakes. So what's your point because I don't see one.

Dear god some of you will just never stop. You know all the things about all the people all the time and how everyone should behave. Insufferable.

Calling the kid with the glasses a snowflake a couple times is also obnoxious and not as funny as you think it is.

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Anonymous wrote:I have two kids in APS and things don’t seem to be falling apart at all.

Interesting.

I know tons of APS families down with COVID. It’s spreading like crazy out there!

+1

Highest levels aside from the omicron winter wave.

And? COVID will be here forever, and everyone will get it. We've all had it and are done with any of this nonsense testing or restrictions. Living normal and not even thinking about it.

And it's super disruptive if tons of teachers and kids are out sick. Do you shrug at a norovirus outbreak? Just resign yourself to puking for three days? I'm not gojng to stick my head in the sand and have my family catch covid and spend a week or more feeling awful. We should all be outside as much as possible and masking inside with well fitting N95s/KN95s. There's a wave right now. Let's take sensible measures.

Serious question. Do you think the masking helped in January? I know your answer will be yes. My answer would be probably some but also not as much as you think it did. I've seen how little kids wear masks. I've also seen what the high school kids do on the weekends and how much the mask is around their chins.

You all think we have way more control than we really do. That we could just mask harder and this would stop happening to us collectively. No. The wave is going to come and go. If you personally really want to do everything possible to make sure you and your family don't get it during this wave, which will go on regardless and would be happening even if there was still an APS mask mandate, wear an N95 at all times and put the fear of god in your children and tell them not to eat snack in class and hope that they actually wear their mask correctly all day. That's really the best you're going to be able to do anymore. Also, don't go inside unmasked with anyone. Those are all things within your control.

I do think masks help. I also think it would help if adults would tell their kids that there is a wave and we expect it to last 3-4 weeks. During that time we should all mask up properly and do what we can to keep others healthy. It won't last forever. Let's buckle down for a few weeks.

For teens there are important events like AP tests, senior activities, sports matches, etc, and we want everyone to stay healthy so they can attend. You should wear a mask so you stay healthy and can attend and so your friends can too. The same goes for younger students too. My elementary students are masking up so they can go to their dance recital, birthday parties and soccer games. Unlike January the weather is good now. We can all open windows and be outside as much as possible.

I'm not some extremist who thinks we should all stay home and close schools. But I also think it's ridiculous that we ignore a wave that is making many people sick right now. Kids and teens take their cues from adults and right now many adults are sending a shitty message that masks don't matter. Change the message.

I agree with you but they are taking off masks to eat, which basically erases the risk budget.

Fundamentally, we just need to stop testing exposure and only test symptomatic for folks who might require antivirals.

And I was a strident lockdown, mask, advocate and I actually hoped we would have a rapid test way out (AM test every day for daily clear passport) but that is where we are.

My kids eat outside at school except in severe weather. Masking is still really helpful.

Even if they do eat inside, there's a huge difference to being exposed all day and just for 30 minutes at lunch. The odds of transmission go up with duration of exposure. Unmasking at lunch doesn't erase the benefit of masking the rest of the day.

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Anonymous wrote:I have two kids in APS and things don’t seem to be falling apart at all.

Interesting.

I know tons of APS families down with COVID. It’s spreading like crazy out there!

+1

Highest levels aside from the omicron winter wave.

And? COVID will be here forever, and everyone will get it. We've all had it and are done with any of this nonsense testing or restrictions. Living normal and not even thinking about it.

And it's super disruptive if tons of teachers and kids are out sick. Do you shrug at a norovirus outbreak? Just resign yourself to puking for three days? I'm not gojng to stick my head in the sand and have my family catch covid and spend a week or more feeling awful. We should all be outside as much as possible and masking inside with well fitting N95s/KN95s. There's a wave right now. Let's take sensible measures.

Serious question. Do you think the masking helped in January? I know your answer will be yes. My answer would be probably some but also not as much as you think it did. I've seen how little kids wear masks. I've also seen what the high school kids do on the weekends and how much the mask is around their chins.

You all think we have way more control than we really do. That we could just mask harder and this would stop happening to us collectively. No. The wave is going to come and go. If you personally really want to do everything possible to make sure you and your family don't get it during this wave, which will go on regardless and would be happening even if there was still an APS mask mandate, wear an N95 at all times and put the fear of god in your children and tell them not to eat snack in class and hope that they actually wear their mask correctly all day. That's really the best you're going to be able to do anymore. Also, don't go inside unmasked with anyone. Those are all things within your control.

I do think masks help. I also think it would help if adults would tell their kids that there is a wave and we expect it to last 3-4 weeks. During that time we should all mask up properly and do what we can to keep others healthy. It won't last forever. Let's buckle down for a few weeks.

For teens there are important events like AP tests, senior activities, sports matches, etc, and we want everyone to stay healthy so they can attend. You should wear a mask so you stay healthy and can attend and so your friends can too. The same goes for younger students too. My elementary students are masking up so they can go to their dance recital, birthday parties and soccer games. Unlike January the weather is good now. We can all open windows and be outside as much as possible.

I'm not some extremist who thinks we should all stay home and close schools. But I also think it's ridiculous that we ignore a wave that is making many people sick right now. Kids and teens take their cues from adults and right now many adults are sending a shitty message that masks don't matter. Change the message.

How do you know people haven't said these things to their kids and the kids still don't wear their masks?

Not being snarky. Going mask optional just made it really difficult to force the younger kids to wear the masks. There was a lot behind the group norming and uniformity of everyone is wearing it.

We had a school assembly and those parents weren't wearing masks either. It's a pretty darn good correlation between parents and kids.

Oh. Because I wear a mask indoors and I have a child with glasses who has hated masking the entire time and her teacher told me when I asked that she was liberally not wearing her mask during the day ("forgetting" after snack or recess) or putting it under her nose but the teacher can't say anything to her.

But keep judging. Says a lot about you that you have "those parents" all sorted out and know who each child's parents are though.

So your read of what I said is that I was specifically talking about you and your special snowflake? Perhaps in addition to working on your parenting skills, you should also work on your reading comprehension.

It's clear many parents are not sending the message that masking is important. Read this thread if you want evidence.

It's an example that should make you realize, gee maybe I don't have all the information about everyone's situation. Wow, I think I know all the things and I tend to make a lot of assumptions and judge people. Maybe I should think twice about that.

That kind of a-ha moment.

I have more than enough information to know that masking is important and that we're in a surge that should last for a few weeks. I also don't buy into some notion that we should throw our hands in the air and give up completely on trying to prevent spread because of a few special snowflakes. So what's your point because I don't see one.

Dear god some of you will just never stop. You know all the things about all the people all the time and how everyone should behave. Insufferable.

Calling the kid with the glasses a snowflake a couple times is also obnoxious and not as funny as you think it is.

Have you really never heard of science? We know how covid is transmitted. One kid with glasses doesn't change the science, nor whether the community should try to stop the spread to keep people healthy.

We've also been wearing masks for more than a year now. If you can't sort how to wear a mask with glasses, then you haven't tried very hard. Signed, glasses wearer.

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Anonymous wrote:I have two kids in APS and things don’t seem to be falling apart at all.

Interesting.

I know tons of APS families down with COVID. It’s spreading like crazy out there!

+1

Highest levels aside from the omicron winter wave.

And? COVID will be here forever, and everyone will get it. We've all had it and are done with any of this nonsense testing or restrictions. Living normal and not even thinking about it.

And it's super disruptive if tons of teachers and kids are out sick. Do you shrug at a norovirus outbreak? Just resign yourself to puking for three days? I'm not gojng to stick my head in the sand and have my family catch covid and spend a week or more feeling awful. We should all be outside as much as possible and masking inside with well fitting N95s/KN95s. There's a wave right now. Let's take sensible measures.

Serious question. Do you think the masking helped in January? I know your answer will be yes. My answer would be probably some but also not as much as you think it did. I've seen how little kids wear masks. I've also seen what the high school kids do on the weekends and how much the mask is around their chins.

You all think we have way more control than we really do. That we could just mask harder and this would stop happening to us collectively. No. The wave is going to come and go. If you personally really want to do everything possible to make sure you and your family don't get it during this wave, which will go on regardless and would be happening even if there was still an APS mask mandate, wear an N95 at all times and put the fear of god in your children and tell them not to eat snack in class and hope that they actually wear their mask correctly all day. That's really the best you're going to be able to do anymore. Also, don't go inside unmasked with anyone. Those are all things within your control.

I do think masks help. I also think it would help if adults would tell their kids that there is a wave and we expect it to last 3-4 weeks. During that time we should all mask up properly and do what we can to keep others healthy. It won't last forever. Let's buckle down for a few weeks.

For teens there are important events like AP tests, senior activities, sports matches, etc, and we want everyone to stay healthy so they can attend. You should wear a mask so you stay healthy and can attend and so your friends can too. The same goes for younger students too. My elementary students are masking up so they can go to their dance recital, birthday parties and soccer games. Unlike January the weather is good now. We can all open windows and be outside as much as possible.

I'm not some extremist who thinks we should all stay home and close schools. But I also think it's ridiculous that we ignore a wave that is making many people sick right now. Kids and teens take their cues from adults and right now many adults are sending a shitty message that masks don't matter. Change the message.

How do you know people haven't said these things to their kids and the kids still don't wear their masks?

Not being snarky. Going mask optional just made it really difficult to force the younger kids to wear the masks. There was a lot behind the group norming and uniformity of everyone is wearing it.

We had a school assembly and those parents weren't wearing masks either. It's a pretty darn good correlation between parents and kids.

Oh. Because I wear a mask indoors and I have a child with glasses who has hated masking the entire time and her teacher told me when I asked that she was liberally not wearing her mask during the day ("forgetting" after snack or recess) or putting it under her nose but the teacher can't say anything to her.

But keep judging. Says a lot about you that you have "those parents" all sorted out and know who each child's parents are though.

So your read of what I said is that I was specifically talking about you and your special snowflake? Perhaps in addition to working on your parenting skills, you should also work on your reading comprehension.

It's clear many parents are not sending the message that masking is important. Read this thread if you want evidence.

It's an example that should make you realize, gee maybe I don't have all the information about everyone's situation. Wow, I think I know all the things and I tend to make a lot of assumptions and judge people. Maybe I should think twice about that.

That kind of a-ha moment.

I have more than enough information to know that masking is important and that we're in a surge that should last for a few weeks. I also don't buy into some notion that we should throw our hands in the air and give up completely on trying to prevent spread because of a few special snowflakes. So what's your point because I don't see one.

Dear god some of you will just never stop. You know all the things about all the people all the time and how everyone should behave. Insufferable.

Calling the kid with the glasses a snowflake a couple times is also obnoxious and not as funny as you think it is.

Special snowflake is in reference to the PP's view that her daughter is so special that public health policies need to change so her daughter's glasses don't fog.

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Anonymous wrote:I have two kids in APS and things don’t seem to be falling apart at all.

Interesting.

I know tons of APS families down with COVID. It’s spreading like crazy out there!

+1

Highest levels aside from the omicron winter wave.

And? COVID will be here forever, and everyone will get it. We've all had it and are done with any of this nonsense testing or restrictions. Living normal and not even thinking about it.

And it's super disruptive if tons of teachers and kids are out sick. Do you shrug at a norovirus outbreak? Just resign yourself to puking for three days? I'm not gojng to stick my head in the sand and have my family catch covid and spend a week or more feeling awful. We should all be outside as much as possible and masking inside with well fitting N95s/KN95s. There's a wave right now. Let's take sensible measures.

Serious question. Do you think the masking helped in January? I know your answer will be yes. My answer would be probably some but also not as much as you think it did. I've seen how little kids wear masks. I've also seen what the high school kids do on the weekends and how much the mask is around their chins.

You all think we have way more control than we really do. That we could just mask harder and this would stop happening to us collectively. No. The wave is going to come and go. If you personally really want to do everything possible to make sure you and your family don't get it during this wave, which will go on regardless and would be happening even if there was still an APS mask mandate, wear an N95 at all times and put the fear of god in your children and tell them not to eat snack in class and hope that they actually wear their mask correctly all day. That's really the best you're going to be able to do anymore. Also, don't go inside unmasked with anyone. Those are all things within your control.

I do think masks help. I also think it would help if adults would tell their kids that there is a wave and we expect it to last 3-4 weeks. During that time we should all mask up properly and do what we can to keep others healthy. It won't last forever. Let's buckle down for a few weeks.

For teens there are important events like AP tests, senior activities, sports matches, etc, and we want everyone to stay healthy so they can attend. You should wear a mask so you stay healthy and can attend and so your friends can too. The same goes for younger students too. My elementary students are masking up so they can go to their dance recital, birthday parties and soccer games. Unlike January the weather is good now. We can all open windows and be outside as much as possible.

I'm not some extremist who thinks we should all stay home and close schools. But I also think it's ridiculous that we ignore a wave that is making many people sick right now. Kids and teens take their cues from adults and right now many adults are sending a shitty message that masks don't matter. Change the message.

How do you know people haven't said these things to their kids and the kids still don't wear their masks?

Not being snarky. Going mask optional just made it really difficult to force the younger kids to wear the masks. There was a lot behind the group norming and uniformity of everyone is wearing it.

We had a school assembly and those parents weren't wearing masks either. It's a pretty darn good correlation between parents and kids.

Oh. Because I wear a mask indoors and I have a child with glasses who has hated masking the entire time and her teacher told me when I asked that she was liberally not wearing her mask during the day ("forgetting" after snack or recess) or putting it under her nose but the teacher can't say anything to her.

But keep judging. Says a lot about you that you have "those parents" all sorted out and know who each child's parents are though.

So your read of what I said is that I was specifically talking about you and your special snowflake? Perhaps in addition to working on your parenting skills, you should also work on your reading comprehension.

It's clear many parents are not sending the message that masking is important. Read this thread if you want evidence.

It's an example that should make you realize, gee maybe I don't have all the information about everyone's situation. Wow, I think I know all the things and I tend to make a lot of assumptions and judge people. Maybe I should think twice about that.

That kind of a-ha moment.

I have more than enough information to know that masking is important and that we're in a surge that should last for a few weeks. I also don't buy into some notion that we should throw our hands in the air and give up completely on trying to prevent spread because of a few special snowflakes. So what's your point because I don't see one.

Dear god some of you will just never stop. You know all the things about all the people all the time and how everyone should behave. Insufferable.

Calling the kid with the glasses a snowflake a couple times is also obnoxious and not as funny as you think it is.

Special snowflake is in reference to the PP's view that her daughter is so special that public health policies need to change so her daughter's glasses don't fog.

But the glasses wearing snowflake IS following public health policy. The mask are still optional last I checked.

I believe the point was worry about yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:I have two kids in APS and things don’t seem to be falling apart at all.

Interesting.

I know tons of APS families down with COVID. It’s spreading like crazy out there!

+1

Highest levels aside from the omicron winter wave.

And? COVID will be here forever, and everyone will get it. We've all had it and are done with any of this nonsense testing or restrictions. Living normal and not even thinking about it.

And it's super disruptive if tons of teachers and kids are out sick. Do you shrug at a norovirus outbreak? Just resign yourself to puking for three days? I'm not gojng to stick my head in the sand and have my family catch covid and spend a week or more feeling awful. We should all be outside as much as possible and masking inside with well fitting N95s/KN95s. There's a wave right now. Let's take sensible measures.

Serious question. Do you think the masking helped in January? I know your answer will be yes. My answer would be probably some but also not as much as you think it did. I've seen how little kids wear masks. I've also seen what the high school kids do on the weekends and how much the mask is around their chins.

You all think we have way more control than we really do. That we could just mask harder and this would stop happening to us collectively. No. The wave is going to come and go. If you personally really want to do everything possible to make sure you and your family don't get it during this wave, which will go on regardless and would be happening even if there was still an APS mask mandate, wear an N95 at all times and put the fear of god in your children and tell them not to eat snack in class and hope that they actually wear their mask correctly all day. That's really the best you're going to be able to do anymore. Also, don't go inside unmasked with anyone. Those are all things within your control.

I do think masks help. I also think it would help if adults would tell their kids that there is a wave and we expect it to last 3-4 weeks. During that time we should all mask up properly and do what we can to keep others healthy. It won't last forever. Let's buckle down for a few weeks.

For teens there are important events like AP tests, senior activities, sports matches, etc, and we want everyone to stay healthy so they can attend. You should wear a mask so you stay healthy and can attend and so your friends can too. The same goes for younger students too. My elementary students are masking up so they can go to their dance recital, birthday parties and soccer games. Unlike January the weather is good now. We can all open windows and be outside as much as possible.

I'm not some extremist who thinks we should all stay home and close schools. But I also think it's ridiculous that we ignore a wave that is making many people sick right now. Kids and teens take their cues from adults and right now many adults are sending a shitty message that masks don't matter. Change the message.

How do you know people haven't said these things to their kids and the kids still don't wear their masks?

Not being snarky. Going mask optional just made it really difficult to force the younger kids to wear the masks. There was a lot behind the group norming and uniformity of everyone is wearing it.

We had a school assembly and those parents weren't wearing masks either. It's a pretty darn good correlation between parents and kids.

Oh. Because I wear a mask indoors and I have a child with glasses who has hated masking the entire time and her teacher told me when I asked that she was liberally not wearing her mask during the day ("forgetting" after snack or recess) or putting it under her nose but the teacher can't say anything to her.

But keep judging. Says a lot about you that you have "those parents" all sorted out and know who each child's parents are though.

So your read of what I said is that I was specifically talking about you and your special snowflake? Perhaps in addition to working on your parenting skills, you should also work on your reading comprehension.

It's clear many parents are not sending the message that masking is important. Read this thread if you want evidence.

It's an example that should make you realize, gee maybe I don't have all the information about everyone's situation. Wow, I think I know all the things and I tend to make a lot of assumptions and judge people. Maybe I should think twice about that.

That kind of a-ha moment.

I have more than enough information to know that masking is important and that we're in a surge that should last for a few weeks. I also don't buy into some notion that we should throw our hands in the air and give up completely on trying to prevent spread because of a few special snowflakes. So what's your point because I don't see one.

Dear god some of you will just never stop. You know all the things about all the people all the time and how everyone should behave. Insufferable.

Calling the kid with the glasses a snowflake a couple times is also obnoxious and not as funny as you think it is.

Have you really never heard of science? We know how covid is transmitted. One kid with glasses doesn't change the science, nor whether the community should try to stop the spread to keep people healthy.

We've also been wearing masks for more than a year now. If you can't sort how to wear a mask with glasses, then you haven't tried very hard. Signed, glasses wearer.

So the science says with good vaccines and anti virals in play and a community with low hospitalization and death rates, children in school need to mask to as near zero as covid as we can get?

I think that's what you say, not what science says. CDC doesn't even say kids need to mask in a medium transmission County. CDC says if you are at high risk for severe illness, talk to your health care provider about whether you should wear a mask.

But wait, I know. CDC doesn't follow the science. You do.

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Anonymous wrote:I have two kids in APS and things don’t seem to be falling apart at all.

Interesting.

I know tons of APS families down with COVID. It’s spreading like crazy out there!

+1

Highest levels aside from the omicron winter wave.

And? COVID will be here forever, and everyone will get it. We've all had it and are done with any of this nonsense testing or restrictions. Living normal and not even thinking about it.

And it's super disruptive if tons of teachers and kids are out sick. Do you shrug at a norovirus outbreak? Just resign yourself to puking for three days? I'm not gojng to stick my head in the sand and have my family catch covid and spend a week or more feeling awful. We should all be outside as much as possible and masking inside with well fitting N95s/KN95s. There's a wave right now. Let's take sensible measures.

Serious question. Do you think the masking helped in January? I know your answer will be yes. My answer would be probably some but also not as much as you think it did. I've seen how little kids wear masks. I've also seen what the high school kids do on the weekends and how much the mask is around their chins.

You all think we have way more control than we really do. That we could just mask harder and this would stop happening to us collectively. No. The wave is going to come and go. If you personally really want to do everything possible to make sure you and your family don't get it during this wave, which will go on regardless and would be happening even if there was still an APS mask mandate, wear an N95 at all times and put the fear of god in your children and tell them not to eat snack in class and hope that they actually wear their mask correctly all day. That's really the best you're going to be able to do anymore. Also, don't go inside unmasked with anyone. Those are all things within your control.

I do think masks help. I also think it would help if adults would tell their kids that there is a wave and we expect it to last 3-4 weeks. During that time we should all mask up properly and do what we can to keep others healthy. It won't last forever. Let's buckle down for a few weeks.

For teens there are important events like AP tests, senior activities, sports matches, etc, and we want everyone to stay healthy so they can attend. You should wear a mask so you stay healthy and can attend and so your friends can too. The same goes for younger students too. My elementary students are masking up so they can go to their dance recital, birthday parties and soccer games. Unlike January the weather is good now. We can all open windows and be outside as much as possible.

I'm not some extremist who thinks we should all stay home and close schools. But I also think it's ridiculous that we ignore a wave that is making many people sick right now. Kids and teens take their cues from adults and right now many adults are sending a shitty message that masks don't matter. Change the message.

I agree with you but they are taking off masks to eat, which basically erases the risk budget.

Fundamentally, we just need to stop testing exposure and only test symptomatic for folks who might require antivirals.

And I was a strident lockdown, mask, advocate and I actually hoped we would have a rapid test way out (AM test every day for daily clear passport) but that is where we are.

You know that asymptomatic carriers also spread covid, right? Testing helps prevent further spread, but according to you it's useless. That's bonkers to me. Really do not understand why you are against a measure that is so easy and helps prevent spread. And agree with others that a half hour of maskless exposure at lunchtime (and for many kids that exposure is outside!) does not undo the good that comes from masking indoors all day. It's like saying that if someone is going to smoke 1 cigarette a day, they might as well smoke two packs. That's not the way risk works.

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Dr. Duran also sent out an email to parents today suggesting and requesting mask use from kids during this surge, fwiw.

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He did that several weeks ago too.

I don't think APS has much credibility left when it comes to handling this pandemic. If it wasn't for the state of VA we would have not had a full year of in-person school and there would still be a mask mandate and probably one for as long as covid exists on this planet.

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Anonymous wrote:I have two kids in APS and things don’t seem to be falling apart at all.

Interesting.

I know tons of APS families down with COVID. It’s spreading like crazy out there!

+1

Highest levels aside from the omicron winter wave.

And? COVID will be here forever, and everyone will get it. We've all had it and are done with any of this nonsense testing or restrictions. Living normal and not even thinking about it.

And it's super disruptive if tons of teachers and kids are out sick. Do you shrug at a norovirus outbreak? Just resign yourself to puking for three days? I'm not gojng to stick my head in the sand and have my family catch covid and spend a week or more feeling awful. We should all be outside as much as possible and masking inside with well fitting N95s/KN95s. There's a wave right now. Let's take sensible measures.

Serious question. Do you think the masking helped in January? I know your answer will be yes. My answer would be probably some but also not as much as you think it did. I've seen how little kids wear masks. I've also seen what the high school kids do on the weekends and how much the mask is around their chins.

You all think we have way more control than we really do. That we could just mask harder and this would stop happening to us collectively. No. The wave is going to come and go. If you personally really want to do everything possible to make sure you and your family don't get it during this wave, which will go on regardless and would be happening even if there was still an APS mask mandate, wear an N95 at all times and put the fear of god in your children and tell them not to eat snack in class and hope that they actually wear their mask correctly all day. That's really the best you're going to be able to do anymore. Also, don't go inside unmasked with anyone. Those are all things within your control.

I do think masks help. I also think it would help if adults would tell their kids that there is a wave and we expect it to last 3-4 weeks. During that time we should all mask up properly and do what we can to keep others healthy. It won't last forever. Let's buckle down for a few weeks.

For teens there are important events like AP tests, senior activities, sports matches, etc, and we want everyone to stay healthy so they can attend. You should wear a mask so you stay healthy and can attend and so your friends can too. The same goes for younger students too. My elementary students are masking up so they can go to their dance recital, birthday parties and soccer games. Unlike January the weather is good now. We can all open windows and be outside as much as possible.

I'm not some extremist who thinks we should all stay home and close schools. But I also think it's ridiculous that we ignore a wave that is making many people sick right now. Kids and teens take their cues from adults and right now many adults are sending a shitty message that masks don't matter. Change the message.

How do you know people haven't said these things to their kids and the kids still don't wear their masks?

Not being snarky. Going mask optional just made it really difficult to force the younger kids to wear the masks. There was a lot behind the group norming and uniformity of everyone is wearing it.

We had a school assembly and those parents weren't wearing masks either. It's a pretty darn good correlation between parents and kids.

Oh. Because I wear a mask indoors and I have a child with glasses who has hated masking the entire time and her teacher told me when I asked that she was liberally not wearing her mask during the day ("forgetting" after snack or recess) or putting it under her nose but the teacher can't say anything to her.

But keep judging. Says a lot about you that you have "those parents" all sorted out and know who each child's parents are though.

So your read of what I said is that I was specifically talking about you and your special snowflake? Perhaps in addition to working on your parenting skills, you should also work on your reading comprehension.

It's clear many parents are not sending the message that masking is important. Read this thread if you want evidence.

It's an example that should make you realize, gee maybe I don't have all the information about everyone's situation. Wow, I think I know all the things and I tend to make a lot of assumptions and judge people. Maybe I should think twice about that.

That kind of a-ha moment.

I have more than enough information to know that masking is important and that we're in a surge that should last for a few weeks. I also don't buy into some notion that we should throw our hands in the air and give up completely on trying to prevent spread because of a few special snowflakes. So what's your point because I don't see one.

Dear god some of you will just never stop. You know all the things about all the people all the time and how everyone should behave. Insufferable.

Calling the kid with the glasses a snowflake a couple times is also obnoxious and not as funny as you think it is.

Have you really never heard of science? We know how covid is transmitted. One kid with glasses doesn't change the science, nor whether the community should try to stop the spread to keep people healthy.

We've also been wearing masks for more than a year now. If you can't sort how to wear a mask with glasses, then you haven't tried very hard. Signed, glasses wearer.

You were doing okay until this part. The bolded is your opinion. It's not science. Clearly not everyone agrees on what lengths a community should go to in order to stop the spread of covid and in fact it's shifted over time in most places We've seen that across the world.

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Anonymous wrote:I have two kids in APS and things don’t seem to be falling apart at all.

Interesting.

I know tons of APS families down with COVID. It’s spreading like crazy out there!

+1

Highest levels aside from the omicron winter wave.

And? COVID will be here forever, and everyone will get it. We've all had it and are done with any of this nonsense testing or restrictions. Living normal and not even thinking about it.

And it's super disruptive if tons of teachers and kids are out sick. Do you shrug at a norovirus outbreak? Just resign yourself to puking for three days? I'm not gojng to stick my head in the sand and have my family catch covid and spend a week or more feeling awful. We should all be outside as much as possible and masking inside with well fitting N95s/KN95s. There's a wave right now. Let's take sensible measures.

Serious question. Do you think the masking helped in January? I know your answer will be yes. My answer would be probably some but also not as much as you think it did. I've seen how little kids wear masks. I've also seen what the high school kids do on the weekends and how much the mask is around their chins.

You all think we have way more control than we really do. That we could just mask harder and this would stop happening to us collectively. No. The wave is going to come and go. If you personally really want to do everything possible to make sure you and your family don't get it during this wave, which will go on regardless and would be happening even if there was still an APS mask mandate, wear an N95 at all times and put the fear of god in your children and tell them not to eat snack in class and hope that they actually wear their mask correctly all day. That's really the best you're going to be able to do anymore. Also, don't go inside unmasked with anyone. Those are all things within your control.

I do think masks help. I also think it would help if adults would tell their kids that there is a wave and we expect it to last 3-4 weeks. During that time we should all mask up properly and do what we can to keep others healthy. It won't last forever. Let's buckle down for a few weeks.

For teens there are important events like AP tests, senior activities, sports matches, etc, and we want everyone to stay healthy so they can attend. You should wear a mask so you stay healthy and can attend and so your friends can too. The same goes for younger students too. My elementary students are masking up so they can go to their dance recital, birthday parties and soccer games. Unlike January the weather is good now. We can all open windows and be outside as much as possible.

I'm not some extremist who thinks we should all stay home and close schools. But I also think it's ridiculous that we ignore a wave that is making many people sick right now. Kids and teens take their cues from adults and right now many adults are sending a shitty message that masks don't matter. Change the message.

How do you know people haven't said these things to their kids and the kids still don't wear their masks?

Not being snarky. Going mask optional just made it really difficult to force the younger kids to wear the masks. There was a lot behind the group norming and uniformity of everyone is wearing it.

We had a school assembly and those parents weren't wearing masks either. It's a pretty darn good correlation between parents and kids.

Oh. Because I wear a mask indoors and I have a child with glasses who has hated masking the entire time and her teacher told me when I asked that she was liberally not wearing her mask during the day ("forgetting" after snack or recess) or putting it under her nose but the teacher can't say anything to her.

But keep judging. Says a lot about you that you have "those parents" all sorted out and know who each child's parents are though.

So your read of what I said is that I was specifically talking about you and your special snowflake? Perhaps in addition to working on your parenting skills, you should also work on your reading comprehension.

It's clear many parents are not sending the message that masking is important. Read this thread if you want evidence.

It's an example that should make you realize, gee maybe I don't have all the information about everyone's situation. Wow, I think I know all the things and I tend to make a lot of assumptions and judge people. Maybe I should think twice about that.

That kind of a-ha moment.

I have more than enough information to know that masking is important and that we're in a surge that should last for a few weeks. I also don't buy into some notion that we should throw our hands in the air and give up completely on trying to prevent spread because of a few special snowflakes. So what's your point because I don't see one.

Dear god some of you will just never stop. You know all the things about all the people all the time and how everyone should behave. Insufferable.

Calling the kid with the glasses a snowflake a couple times is also obnoxious and not as funny as you think it is.

Have you really never heard of science? We know how covid is transmitted. One kid with glasses doesn't change the science, nor whether the community should try to stop the spread to keep people healthy.

We've also been wearing masks for more than a year now. If you can't sort how to wear a mask with glasses, then you haven't tried very hard. Signed, glasses wearer.

So the science says with good vaccines and anti virals in play and a community with low hospitalization and death rates, children in school need to mask to as near zero as covid as we can get?

I think that's what you say, not what science says. CDC doesn't even say kids need to mask in a medium transmission County. CDC says if you are at high risk for severe illness, talk to your health care provider about whether you should wear a mask.

But wait, I know. CDC doesn't follow the science. You do.

It makes zero sense for kids to go unmasked to school during a period of high or substantial transmission, like we are having now. It’s great that hospitals aren’t full but we’re essentially intentionally infecting kids with this virus now. That is not a great public health strategy and I think the CDC really messed up and got it wrong, giving into political pressure regarding masks. We could have done more to keep kids safe and healthy, especially just as more information comes out about long-term effects of COVID infection on children.

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Anonymous wrote:I have two kids in APS and things don’t seem to be falling apart at all.

Interesting.

I know tons of APS families down with COVID. It’s spreading like crazy out there!

+1

Highest levels aside from the omicron winter wave.

And? COVID will be here forever, and everyone will get it. We've all had it and are done with any of this nonsense testing or restrictions. Living normal and not even thinking about it.

And it's super disruptive if tons of teachers and kids are out sick. Do you shrug at a norovirus outbreak? Just resign yourself to puking for three days? I'm not gojng to stick my head in the sand and have my family catch covid and spend a week or more feeling awful. We should all be outside as much as possible and masking inside with well fitting N95s/KN95s. There's a wave right now. Let's take sensible measures.

Serious question. Do you think the masking helped in January? I know your answer will be yes. My answer would be probably some but also not as much as you think it did. I've seen how little kids wear masks. I've also seen what the high school kids do on the weekends and how much the mask is around their chins.

You all think we have way more control than we really do. That we could just mask harder and this would stop happening to us collectively. No. The wave is going to come and go. If you personally really want to do everything possible to make sure you and your family don't get it during this wave, which will go on regardless and would be happening even if there was still an APS mask mandate, wear an N95 at all times and put the fear of god in your children and tell them not to eat snack in class and hope that they actually wear their mask correctly all day. That's really the best you're going to be able to do anymore. Also, don't go inside unmasked with anyone. Those are all things within your control.

I do think masks help. I also think it would help if adults would tell their kids that there is a wave and we expect it to last 3-4 weeks. During that time we should all mask up properly and do what we can to keep others healthy. It won't last forever. Let's buckle down for a few weeks.

For teens there are important events like AP tests, senior activities, sports matches, etc, and we want everyone to stay healthy so they can attend. You should wear a mask so you stay healthy and can attend and so your friends can too. The same goes for younger students too. My elementary students are masking up so they can go to their dance recital, birthday parties and soccer games. Unlike January the weather is good now. We can all open windows and be outside as much as possible.

I'm not some extremist who thinks we should all stay home and close schools. But I also think it's ridiculous that we ignore a wave that is making many people sick right now. Kids and teens take their cues from adults and right now many adults are sending a shitty message that masks don't matter. Change the message.

How do you know people haven't said these things to their kids and the kids still don't wear their masks?

Not being snarky. Going mask optional just made it really difficult to force the younger kids to wear the masks. There was a lot behind the group norming and uniformity of everyone is wearing it.

We had a school assembly and those parents weren't wearing masks either. It's a pretty darn good correlation between parents and kids.

Oh. Because I wear a mask indoors and I have a child with glasses who has hated masking the entire time and her teacher told me when I asked that she was liberally not wearing her mask during the day ("forgetting" after snack or recess) or putting it under her nose but the teacher can't say anything to her.

But keep judging. Says a lot about you that you have "those parents" all sorted out and know who each child's parents are though.

So your read of what I said is that I was specifically talking about you and your special snowflake? Perhaps in addition to working on your parenting skills, you should also work on your reading comprehension.

It's clear many parents are not sending the message that masking is important. Read this thread if you want evidence.

It's an example that should make you realize, gee maybe I don't have all the information about everyone's situation. Wow, I think I know all the things and I tend to make a lot of assumptions and judge people. Maybe I should think twice about that.

That kind of a-ha moment.

I have more than enough information to know that masking is important and that we're in a surge that should last for a few weeks. I also don't buy into some notion that we should throw our hands in the air and give up completely on trying to prevent spread because of a few special snowflakes. So what's your point because I don't see one.

Dear god some of you will just never stop. You know all the things about all the people all the time and how everyone should behave. Insufferable.

Calling the kid with the glasses a snowflake a couple times is also obnoxious and not as funny as you think it is.

Have you really never heard of science? We know how covid is transmitted. One kid with glasses doesn't change the science, nor whether the community should try to stop the spread to keep people healthy.

We've also been wearing masks for more than a year now. If you can't sort how to wear a mask with glasses, then you haven't tried very hard. Signed, glasses wearer.

So the science says with good vaccines and anti virals in play and a community with low hospitalization and death rates, children in school need to mask to as near zero as covid as we can get?

I think that's what you say, not what science says. CDC doesn't even say kids need to mask in a medium transmission County. CDC says if you are at high risk for severe illness, talk to your health care provider about whether you should wear a mask.

But wait, I know. CDC doesn't follow the science. You do.

It makes zero sense for kids to go unmasked to school during a period of high or substantial transmission, like we are having now. It’s great that hospitals aren’t full but we’re essentially intentionally infecting kids with this virus now. That is not a great public health strategy and I think the CDC really messed up and got it wrong, giving into political pressure regarding masks. We could have done more to keep kids safe and healthy, especially just as more information comes out about long-term effects of COVID infection on children.

What is the more information? I would be interested to see any controlled studies. Not just media coverage of anecdotes. The only controlled studies I have seen say it’s rare in kids and resolves. But would genuinely be interested to see additional info.

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Anonymous wrote:I have two kids in APS and things don’t seem to be falling apart at all.

Interesting.

I know tons of APS families down with COVID. It’s spreading like crazy out there!

+1

Highest levels aside from the omicron winter wave.

And? COVID will be here forever, and everyone will get it. We've all had it and are done with any of this nonsense testing or restrictions. Living normal and not even thinking about it.

And it's super disruptive if tons of teachers and kids are out sick. Do you shrug at a norovirus outbreak? Just resign yourself to puking for three days? I'm not gojng to stick my head in the sand and have my family catch covid and spend a week or more feeling awful. We should all be outside as much as possible and masking inside with well fitting N95s/KN95s. There's a wave right now. Let's take sensible measures.

Serious question. Do you think the masking helped in January? I know your answer will be yes. My answer would be probably some but also not as much as you think it did. I've seen how little kids wear masks. I've also seen what the high school kids do on the weekends and how much the mask is around their chins.

You all think we have way more control than we really do. That we could just mask harder and this would stop happening to us collectively. No. The wave is going to come and go. If you personally really want to do everything possible to make sure you and your family don't get it during this wave, which will go on regardless and would be happening even if there was still an APS mask mandate, wear an N95 at all times and put the fear of god in your children and tell them not to eat snack in class and hope that they actually wear their mask correctly all day. That's really the best you're going to be able to do anymore. Also, don't go inside unmasked with anyone. Those are all things within your control.

I do think masks help. I also think it would help if adults would tell their kids that there is a wave and we expect it to last 3-4 weeks. During that time we should all mask up properly and do what we can to keep others healthy. It won't last forever. Let's buckle down for a few weeks.

For teens there are important events like AP tests, senior activities, sports matches, etc, and we want everyone to stay healthy so they can attend. You should wear a mask so you stay healthy and can attend and so your friends can too. The same goes for younger students too. My elementary students are masking up so they can go to their dance recital, birthday parties and soccer games. Unlike January the weather is good now. We can all open windows and be outside as much as possible.

I'm not some extremist who thinks we should all stay home and close schools. But I also think it's ridiculous that we ignore a wave that is making many people sick right now. Kids and teens take their cues from adults and right now many adults are sending a shitty message that masks don't matter. Change the message.

How do you know people haven't said these things to their kids and the kids still don't wear their masks?

Not being snarky. Going mask optional just made it really difficult to force the younger kids to wear the masks. There was a lot behind the group norming and uniformity of everyone is wearing it.

We had a school assembly and those parents weren't wearing masks either. It's a pretty darn good correlation between parents and kids.

Oh. Because I wear a mask indoors and I have a child with glasses who has hated masking the entire time and her teacher told me when I asked that she was liberally not wearing her mask during the day ("forgetting" after snack or recess) or putting it under her nose but the teacher can't say anything to her.

But keep judging. Says a lot about you that you have "those parents" all sorted out and know who each child's parents are though.

So your read of what I said is that I was specifically talking about you and your special snowflake? Perhaps in addition to working on your parenting skills, you should also work on your reading comprehension.

It's clear many parents are not sending the message that masking is important. Read this thread if you want evidence.

It's an example that should make you realize, gee maybe I don't have all the information about everyone's situation. Wow, I think I know all the things and I tend to make a lot of assumptions and judge people. Maybe I should think twice about that.

That kind of a-ha moment.

I have more than enough information to know that masking is important and that we're in a surge that should last for a few weeks. I also don't buy into some notion that we should throw our hands in the air and give up completely on trying to prevent spread because of a few special snowflakes. So what's your point because I don't see one.

Dear god some of you will just never stop. You know all the things about all the people all the time and how everyone should behave. Insufferable.

Calling the kid with the glasses a snowflake a couple times is also obnoxious and not as funny as you think it is.

Have you really never heard of science? We know how covid is transmitted. One kid with glasses doesn't change the science, nor whether the community should try to stop the spread to keep people healthy.

We've also been wearing masks for more than a year now. If you can't sort how to wear a mask with glasses, then you haven't tried very hard. Signed, glasses wearer.

So the science says with good vaccines and anti virals in play and a community with low hospitalization and death rates, children in school need to mask to as near zero as covid as we can get?

I think that's what you say, not what science says. CDC doesn't even say kids need to mask in a medium transmission County. CDC says if you are at high risk for severe illness, talk to your health care provider about whether you should wear a mask.

But wait, I know. CDC doesn't follow the science. You do.

It makes zero sense for kids to go unmasked to school during a period of high or substantial transmission, like we are having now. It’s great that hospitals aren’t full but we’re essentially intentionally infecting kids with this virus now. That is not a great public health strategy and I think the CDC really messed up and got it wrong, giving into political pressure regarding masks. We could have done more to keep kids safe and healthy, especially just as more information comes out about long-term effects of COVID infection on children.

What is the more information? I would be interested to see any controlled studies. Not just media coverage of anecdotes. The only controlled studies I have seen say it’s rare in kids and resolves. But would genuinely be interested to see additional info.

Increased pediatric diabetes in children post-COVID is one example.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7102e2.htm

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2788283