s/o. Truck convoy now headed to DC

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Anonymous wrote:Awesome. I'd love to see ten, twenty thousand trucks show up in DC. But I expect this will be pretty weak.

Blocking traffic I generally don't support beyond a slow roll, but if they want to park up on the Mall, block entrances to buildings, etc. I'm all for it.



So, you want them to block access to the free museums in DC? The ones I take my kids to?


Are you aware that this access is blocked for all the children in NYC ages 5+ who are not yet double vaccinated? Are you ok with this? Are you aware that child vaccines are not yet FDA approved and are under EUA and cannot be mandated?


totally ok with it. a non-vaccinated 5 yr old can wait 4-5 months before visiting a museum in NY, until it is safer for him/her to do it without getting exposed to a virus that can have serious consequences.


You are seriously brainwashed if you think kids this age group are in danger of serious consequences, and you know very well, unless you had lived under a rock for 6 months that these vaccines do not stop transmission. It's actually incredibly hard to prove that they have any benefit for such low risk group. Please find a very long 6 hour FDA panel video where they were deciding on EUA approval for 5+ vaccines, I dare you to listen to everything they said. ignorance isn't an excuse for segregation.
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Anonymous wrote:Can they be stopped before ever getting anywhere to disrupt?



Yes they can. DOT can mess up things for them easily.


And how would they do that?

1. They have no enforcement people.

2. It would be illegal to stop them. Why? Because they might do something?
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone yet consider if more truckers quit due to dissatisfaction of the current state of affairs, our shelves might look bare? A trucker protest or strike is no joke. They are essential workers who transport gas, food, medications.


Same with teachers. Medical professionals. Sanitation workers. Farm laborers. Flight attendants. Food production workers.

Workers of the world, unite!


100%

I'd like to see a mass walk-out of these professions.

What basically amounted to a sickout by air traffic controllers ended the longest government shutdown in American history.


If teachers walked out I would fire every single one. Same with everyone else mentioned except medical professionals. All can be replaced just like air traffic controllers in the 80s.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone yet consider if more truckers quit due to dissatisfaction of the current state of affairs, our shelves might look bare? A trucker protest or strike is no joke. They are essential workers who transport gas, food, medications.


They'll be fired, and all the people who depend on gas, food, and medications will be disgusted with them. They'll be replaced, by autonomous trucks if necessary. And they'll waste the rest of their lives drinking cheap beer, watching OANN, and dreaming of being heroes fighting against idiotic conspiracy theories.

Go for it!


Have fun geting your semi-annual boosters and getting them stamped into your vaxxport, so that you can show it everywhere you go. It's the world you will love, enjoy it. Your kids will be masked forever or at least every flu season, most of the school year too. This isn't a political party issue: republican vs democrat. It has become politicized, but if you are truly pro-choice you will understand where I am going with this.
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Anonymous wrote:What exactly are they protesting?


Vaccine mandates
Mask Mandates
Trump’s stolen election
Probably CRT

It seems to be amorphous right wing grievances.


If the agenda is vax mandates and mask mandates, I fully support the truckers. This was a massive overreach into controlling our bodily autonomy. It's actually quite shocking to me how many from the pro-choice crowd embraced the mandates under duress of job loss, education loss, loss of access to kid's activities, etc. It's also shocking how many liberals supported horrible segregation vaccine passports introduced into our cities, with NYC being the worst example, where little kids are mandated to get the EUA (not FDA approved yet for their age group) shots in order to do anything indoors. Little kids in NYC are banned from going to museums, cultural events, attending birthday parties in indoor venues, dining with their vaccinated parents, etc. It's horrifying how many of you are ok with this, and I am disgusted, you aren't liberals in the least.


The pandemic required masks and vaccines. We have had a couple hundred thousand extra deaths and more than a million extra extended ICU near-death experiences because dumbasses politicized basic public health measures and convinced other dumbasses to refuse masks and vaccines. Simple-minded people like you killed people. Wearing a mask is not a sacrifice or a burden. Getting vaccinated during a pandemic is not a sacrifice or a burden.
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Hope y'all are proud to have your movement led by a guy who's literally a criminal scumbag.


Who are you even talking to? I doubt there are many truckers on this website. It's not "our movement" - but they have every right to protest, wouldn't you agree? Sure you would.


Right to protest? Sure. Right to block traffic for hundreds of thousands of everyday workers? Hell no.


That is within the right to protest. Now could they be arrested for breaking the law. Sure.


Idiots think they can just decide what their rights and the Constitution are. Sorry, but welcome to reality - rights and the Constitution have real meaning. It is not a right, nor Constitutional, to intentionally use a bunch of big trucks to clog interstate highways as a political stunt. That is illegal, even if it is a "protest."


Of course it is illegal. So was the march on the Edmund Pettus bridge which shut down traffic. So were MLK's marches in a number of cities. So were the anti-South Africa protests in the 1980s. So was Occupy Wallstreet. So were the BLM marches over the last couple of years. So were the anti-Vietnam war sit-ins.

That's not the point. Of course they will be arrested. They have a right to their protest. That right comes with getting arrested. That is the American tradition.

That is unless you want to take the view that all of those protests should not have happened.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Awesome. I'd love to see ten, twenty thousand trucks show up in DC. But I expect this will be pretty weak.

Blocking traffic I generally don't support beyond a slow roll, but if they want to park up on the Mall, block entrances to buildings, etc. I'm all for it.



So, you want them to block access to the free museums in DC? The ones I take my kids to?


Are you aware that this access is blocked for all the children in NYC ages 5+ who are not yet double vaccinated? Are you ok with this? Are you aware that child vaccines are not yet FDA approved and are under EUA and cannot be mandated?


So the truckers are protesting the New York City government for requiring vaccines for children over 5 to go to public places?

News to me! I thought they were clogging up the Beltway!


Do you have proof that they intend to completely block all access to DC? There was a protest before and there was nothing about election results or other BS propaganda you are talking about there. It was for medical choice and allowing the doctors to treat the patients on an individual basic instead of mandating vaccines that don't stop transmission for everyone indiscriminately under the duress of loss to amenities, jobs and education. My guess is that truckers want the mandates to become officially illegal to enforce in any part of the country, it would be great if this goes to SCOTUS and gets banned there unless it's something like Black Plague where bodies are literally piling up in the doorways and it makes sense to declare emergency. I think you wouldn't need to be coercing people into vaccination or locking up then anyway


Almost 1 million dead.


And that is relevant to what? That number is very small. We came through this pandemic strong.
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Anonymous wrote:I am seeing statements from Maryland state police and other Maryland officials about preparations to address this if a convoy does come to the Beltway. Crickets so far from Virginia. If I’m the truckers, I head to the Virginia side of the Beltway because they don’t seem prepared to deal with it.


This just fires them up and plays right into the whole "government is against us". They want to be the victims.


This.

+100


Victims of a "crisis" that they themselves created. Brilliant.


+1000

This seems to be the point. Everything is "open" and most places don't require even proof of vaccination. Even MoCo is dropping mandatory masks.

It's like a protest in search of a cause. Unless they just want to be victims and feel persecuted. This does seem to be the end game with a lot of conservatives.


1) not everything is "open": school kids are still masked event though adults can gather indoors in unlimited numbers unmasked. NYC, SF and some other cities still have vaxxports and NYC even has it for 5 year olds for whom this vaccine isn't FDA approved yet. NYC has all private employer vax mandate that even OSHA could not push through for large employers. CA schools are just now removing OUTDOOR mask mandates for the school kids. People in some professions are required to get boosters and many students who are double-vaxed AND Covid recovered are forced to take unnecessary boosters. One of my relatives now needs to see a cardiologist after her booster.

2) Even if mandates are lifted in many places and people in some places are pretty much back to old normal, these measures can easily come back next winter and every flu season for no real emergency. Emergency can be declared for any reasons now, the threshold is very low. And we know emergency powers can be used to enforce any sort of restrictions.

I am not a concervative and never was, but i have no interest to live in a permanent state of "emergency" and fear propaganda and hope we would be "allowed" to live our lives and especially maintain our bodily autonomy and freedom of movement.
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Businessman Bob Bolus in Lackawanna County Prison | News
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May 26, 2020 — Scranton-area businessman Bob Bolus has returned to jail to serve the rest of his sentence for his conviction on an insurance fraud charge.


Jessup: Bob Bolus violated borough zoning with tractor trailer ...
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JESSUP — Businessman Bob Bolus is effectively using his land as a junkyard without approval, borough officials contend.


Businessman submits appeal after judges order his removal in ...
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Hope y'all are proud to have your movement led by a guy who's literally a criminal scumbag.


Who are you even talking to? I doubt there are many truckers on this website. It's not "our movement" - but they have every right to protest, wouldn't you agree? Sure you would.


Right to protest? Sure. Right to block traffic for hundreds of thousands of everyday workers? Hell no.


That is within the right to protest. Now could they be arrested for breaking the law. Sure.


Idiots think they can just decide what their rights and the Constitution are. Sorry, but welcome to reality - rights and the Constitution have real meaning. It is not a right, nor Constitutional, to intentionally use a bunch of big trucks to clog interstate highways as a political stunt. That is illegal, even if it is a "protest."


Of course it is illegal. So was the march on the Edmund Pettus bridge which shut down traffic. So were MLK's marches in a number of cities. So were the anti-South Africa protests in the 1980s. So was Occupy Wallstreet. So were the BLM marches over the last couple of years. So were the anti-Vietnam war sit-ins.

That's not the point. Of course they will be arrested. They have a right to their protest. That right comes with getting arrested. That is the American tradition.

That is unless you want to take the view that all of those protests should not have happened.


There is a difference between a scheduled point to point protest march lasting part of a day and a plan to occupy and obstruct transportation and commerce for a week or weeks. There is also a huge difference between protesting racial oppression and the racist police state of 1960s Alabama and protesting basic traditional public health measures that don’t harm or discriminate against anyone. This is a more extreme action and it’s for the stupidest cause.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am seeing statements from Maryland state police and other Maryland officials about preparations to address this if a convoy does come to the Beltway. Crickets so far from Virginia. If I’m the truckers, I head to the Virginia side of the Beltway because they don’t seem prepared to deal with it.


This just fires them up and plays right into the whole "government is against us". They want to be the victims.


This.

+100


Victims of a "crisis" that they themselves created. Brilliant.


+1000

This seems to be the point. Everything is "open" and most places don't require even proof of vaccination. Even MoCo is dropping mandatory masks.

It's like a protest in search of a cause. Unless they just want to be victims and feel persecuted. This does seem to be the end game with a lot of conservatives.


1) not everything is "open": school kids are still masked event though adults can gather indoors in unlimited numbers unmasked. NYC, SF and some other cities still have vaxxports and NYC even has it for 5 year olds for whom this vaccine isn't FDA approved yet. NYC has all private employer vax mandate that even OSHA could not push through for large employers. CA schools are just now removing OUTDOOR mask mandates for the school kids. People in some professions are required to get boosters and many students who are double-vaxed AND Covid recovered are forced to take unnecessary boosters. One of my relatives now needs to see a cardiologist after her booster.

2) Even if mandates are lifted in many places and people in some places are pretty much back to old normal, these measures can easily come back next winter and every flu season for no real emergency. Emergency can be declared for any reasons now, the threshold is very low. And we know emergency powers can be used to enforce any sort of restrictions.

I am not a concervative and never was, but i have no interest to live in a permanent state of "emergency" and fear propaganda and hope we would be "allowed" to live our lives and especially maintain our bodily autonomy and freedom of movement.

Feel free to move.
Anonymous
Why now as most places are loosening up restrictions?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why now as most places are loosening up restrictions?


They were told to mask up and get vaccinated a year ago. They stood with their mouths open for a year trying to understand what that means. They are just very slow.
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Anonymous wrote:
UPDATE: Bob Bolus, Family Members Charged In Minuteman ...
https://www.wnep.com › local › lackawanna-county › b...
Jun 6, 2014 — Minuteman Environmental Services owner Brian Bolus is charged with insurance fraud. Prosecutors say he and his father, Scranton businessman Bob ...

Businessman Bob Bolus in Lackawanna County Prison | News
https://www.thetimes-tribune.com › news › businessman-b...
May 26, 2020 — Scranton-area businessman Bob Bolus has returned to jail to serve the rest of his sentence for his conviction on an insurance fraud charge.


Jessup: Bob Bolus violated borough zoning with tractor trailer ...
https://www.thetimes-tribune.com › news › jessup-bob-bo...

JESSUP — Businessman Bob Bolus is effectively using his land as a junkyard without approval, borough officials contend.


Businessman submits appeal after judges order his removal in ...
https://fox56.com › news › local › judges-order-local-b...
Oct 2, 2019 — UPDATE (10/4/19): Local businessman Bob Bolus was taken off the ballot in the race for Scranton Mayor due to convictions he faced in the ...



Hope y'all are proud to have your movement led by a guy who's literally a criminal scumbag.


Who are you even talking to? I doubt there are many truckers on this website. It's not "our movement" - but they have every right to protest, wouldn't you agree? Sure you would.


Right to protest? Sure. Right to block traffic for hundreds of thousands of everyday workers? Hell no.


That is within the right to protest. Now could they be arrested for breaking the law. Sure.


Idiots think they can just decide what their rights and the Constitution are. Sorry, but welcome to reality - rights and the Constitution have real meaning. It is not a right, nor Constitutional, to intentionally use a bunch of big trucks to clog interstate highways as a political stunt. That is illegal, even if it is a "protest."


Of course it is illegal. So was the march on the Edmund Pettus bridge which shut down traffic. So were MLK's marches in a number of cities. So were the anti-South Africa protests in the 1980s. So was Occupy Wallstreet. So were the BLM marches over the last couple of years. So were the anti-Vietnam war sit-ins.

That's not the point. Of course they will be arrested. They have a right to their protest. That right comes with getting arrested. That is the American tradition.

That is unless you want to take the view that all of those protests should not have happened.


There is a difference between a scheduled point to point protest march lasting part of a day and a plan to occupy and obstruct transportation and commerce for a week or weeks. There is also a huge difference between protesting racial oppression and the racist police state of 1960s Alabama and protesting basic traditional public health measures that don’t harm or discriminate against anyone. This is a more extreme action and it’s for the stupidest cause.


No there is not and that is the point. You have to be ok with a KKK/Nazi rally if you are okay with a BLM rally. Not okay in the sense you agree but ok in the sense that it has a right to occur. Where is the evidence that this is anything other than a march? They have no plans to block traffic for weeks.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone yet consider if more truckers quit due to dissatisfaction of the current state of affairs, our shelves might look bare? A trucker protest or strike is no joke. They are essential workers who transport gas, food, medications.


They'll be fired, and all the people who depend on gas, food, and medications will be disgusted with them. They'll be replaced, by autonomous trucks if necessary. And they'll waste the rest of their lives drinking cheap beer, watching OANN, and dreaming of being heroes fighting against idiotic conspiracy theories.

Go for it!


Have fun geting your semi-annual boosters and getting them stamped into your vaxxport, so that you can show it everywhere you go. It's the world you will love, enjoy it. Your kids will be masked forever or at least every flu season, most of the school year too. This isn't a political party issue: republican vs democrat. It has become politicized, but if you are truly pro-choice you will understand where I am going with this.


Uh no, all the pandemic restrictions are falling everywhere. Much fewer lockdowns, mask requirements, etc. We aren't required to wear masks at our school, grocery store, etc. I expect it'll all be lifted this summer unless there's another big surge in case numbers.

Bottom line: No one needs the truckers to protest for them. They are not speaking for us, they are just reacting to Fox News hysteria. They are protesting the wrong policies at the wrong people for the wrong reasons.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Awesome. I'd love to see ten, twenty thousand trucks show up in DC. But I expect this will be pretty weak.

Blocking traffic I generally don't support beyond a slow roll, but if they want to park up on the Mall, block entrances to buildings, etc. I'm all for it.



So, you want them to block access to the free museums in DC? The ones I take my kids to?


Are you aware that this access is blocked for all the children in NYC ages 5+ who are not yet double vaccinated? Are you ok with this? Are you aware that child vaccines are not yet FDA approved and are under EUA and cannot be mandated?


I have no problem with it. Take your anti-vaccine foolishness over to the Fox pages.
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