Youngkin and his AG come out in favor of overturning Roe v Wade

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly how is this "in favor of overturning Roe v Wade"? Up to 20 weeks sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

A bill filed in the Virginia House of Delegates this week would ban abortions after 20 weeks of gestation except in cases where the pregnant woman is at risk of death or “substantial and irreversible” damage to her health.

The bill bans abortions at the halfway point of pregnancy, unless the procedure is necessary to prevent the woman’s death, or “substantial and irreversible physical impairment of a major bodily function.”

https://richmond.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/update-miyares-says-roe-v-wade-was-wrongly-decided-and-va-now-views-constitution-as/article_2e86f72a-0bbb-5d2a-9733-70a4e55d9a2f.html

Miyares literally joined the Mississippi Attorney General in the lawsuit designed to overturn Roe v. Wade. It’s literally the topic of this thread. The bill filed in the legislature is different (though also bad.)

No - Miyares stated that the Constitution is silent on the issue of abortion (which it is) and that it should be left up to the individual states to decide. I'm pro-choice and I agree with him.

https://www.wric.com/news/politics/capitol-connection/miyares-shifts-virginias-stance-on-mississippis-abortion-ban/

So you don’t actually believe that woman gave a right to bodily autonomy, you just don’t feel compelled to ban abortion outright.

Sorry, hon. You can put words in my mouth (and everyone else's) as much as you want. Learn to read. The Constitution is actually silent on the subject of abortion. States should be able to decide for themselves.

In other words, you don’t believe women have a right to bodily autonomy. You believe it is okay for a woman to be forced into childbirth if that’s what her state decides. Saying it should be up to the states necessarily means you don’t believe it is a right because you think it would be acceptable for a state to infringe on it.

Wow. Even when called out, you double-down and again put words in my mouth. You're not worth conversing with because you have your own agenda. Not interested. Enjoy being that crazy person normal people run from.

No, it is exactly what you are saying. If something is a right, it can never be left up to the states to pick and choose whether to afford people those rights. The states are not allowed to violate people’s right. So if you believe that states should get to decide whether to ban abortion, you are necessarily saying that women do not have a right to bodily autonomy when it comes to the decision of whether to give birth.

Exactly. Either it’s a right or it’s not.

Explain the Second Amendment and California. Something is either a right or it isn't. In other words, there are no unlimited rights granted by the Constitution.

When you ban something completely, you are saying it is not a right. Twelve states have trigger laws that would automatically ban all abortions immediately after Roe is overturned.

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Yup. And guns aren’t banned in CA so dumb comparison.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks North Arlington Moms!

You mean Loudoun and Fairfax Asian families.

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Anonymous wrote:Touted as a "moderate" by media - what a joke.

Serious challenge: where did this ever happen?

I have seen maybe some articles saying he was trying to present himself as one, what the fleece vest and aw shucks hoops story. But I don’t recall any MSM ever outright calling him a moderate. Where?

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks North Arlington Moms!

You mean Loudoun and Fairfax Asian families.

If that is the case then great. At least the Dems will not any longer take our vote for granted and ignore our concerns.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks North Arlington Moms!

You mean Loudoun and Fairfax Asian families.

If that is the case then great. At least the Dems will not any longer take our vote for granted and ignore our concerns.

Yes. I, too, am concerned about about Are You There, God? It’s Me, Margaret and I know Why the Caged Bird Sings. We must protect our snowflakes, er, children from these woke schools. Who knows what will happen to the children…

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Youngkin is a radical extremist because the whole modern GOP is radical extremists.

And voters mostly don’t know that because our media lies to average Americans— either lies of omission (NYT, WaPo) or lies of commission (Fox, WSJ, Wash Times, Sinclair, Facebook, Daily Wire, Daily Caller, DC Examiner, Epoch Times, OANN, Newsmax, Townhall, AM talk radio.)

If Youngkin said he wanted to overturn Roe, he’d have lost badly.
The GOP depends on lying to voters to win. And our national corporate media is complicit.


(Ps: leaving it up to the states means overturning Roe. And you can bet that Youngkin will do what his party wants and make it harder for VA women to get abortions.)

Radical. Anti-Democracy. Authoritarian.
And built on lies.
Your modern Republican Party.

This was/is entirely predictable.

VA Senate is the only thing that's going to hold them back. That and the next election. Youngkin and Co. are treating their win like a landslide when they barely eked out a victory.

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Anonymous wrote:You get what you vote for, Virginia. Bunch of idiots.

This. Youngkin is going to kill all of the political progress made in Virginia that made businesses want to locate there and people want to live there.

You think Roe v Wade being overturned is going to scare off businesses?

Is this Peter Doocy?

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Anonymous wrote:His administration has done so much damage in a week — Miyares is the worst of the bunch. All those fools who voted single issue “open the schools” when schools were already open have set Virginia back. And I am not progressive. I am a moderate who does not like the extremism that is today’s Republican Party.

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Totally irrational. And will have long-lasting effects.

I disagree. First of all, they are facing a Democratic VA Senate. Second, if they continue on this path they will ensure a blue VA for a long time to come.

That said, the Dems in VA should strive for more moderation the next time they are in power.

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Anonymous wrote:You get what you vote for, Virginia. Bunch of idiots.

This. Youngkin is going to kill all of the political progress made in Virginia that made businesses want to locate there and people want to live there.

+1, from a Virginian. None of this is surprising from Youngkin, but the people who voted for him will try to pretend that being mad about schools somehow excuses their vote.

Yup. This is 100% on them. Youngkin admitted before the election that he was going to push anti-choice.

Next time rein in your SJWs if you want my vote. Calling me an idiot does not make me feel welcome either. Also recognize that your top issue may not be my top issue. Your doomsday scenario with Youngkin is laughable. Larry Hogan next door runs a deep blue state.

Instead of scaremongering and shaming, do an introspection and come back and earn my vote.

“Earn your vote”? You really need anonymous posters to convince you?

Most adults are capable of evaluating candidates on their own. Weird that you rely on strangers to form your opinion.

Anyway, if you voted for Youngkin you voted for everything that comes with him. Including misogyny. That’s on you.

Your bravado is fueled by your own anonymity. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

The Democrats treated me and my issues as roadkill when they raced through with their one shot agenda. There was no space for anyone who saw it differently from the extreme left wingers that have hijacked policy making in the party. But with supercilious boosters like you trying to shame me for my vote, my one-off vote may not be one-off. Yes, my vote is earned by whoever gets it. And I hope yours is earned as well. Or else our democracy is in trouble.

No one filled out your ballot but you. Stop blaming others for your actions.

Own it.

Where do you see me apologizing for my ballot. I am proud of my vote and the outcome. And despite the fear-monger it I don’t worry that all hell will break loose with Youngkin. I am pro-choice and favor gun control but the Democratic Party is not listening. Enough said.

DP, and I am sincerely interested in what your issue is/was where you didn't feel listened to.

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You don’t get to claim to be pro-choice when you vote for the wire hanger party.

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Maybe start protecting women and girls from predator rapists.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe start protecting women and girls from predator rapists.

So we agree that. overturning Roe v. Wade doesn’t do that? Maybe Youngkin will pull an Abbott and promise to stop all rapes. That’ll work!

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe start protecting women and girls from predator rapists.

So we agree that. overturning Roe v. Wade doesn’t do that? Maybe Youngkin will pull an Abbott and promise to stop all rapes. That’ll work!

Violence is evil.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe start protecting women and girls from predator rapists.

So we agree that. overturning Roe v. Wade doesn’t do that? Maybe Youngkin will pull an Abbott and promise to stop all rapes. That’ll work!

Violence is evil.

Well yes, but that’s not exactly a policy solution.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t get to claim to be pro-choice when you vote for the wire hanger party.

Yup.