Diocese of Arlington Schools - Covid closings?

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone keeps using this word "safe". Omicron isn't a meaningful threat to children. Cases are up, but hospitalizations are flat. Your children are safer today than they were a year ago when no one was testing, we knew less about the virus, the virus was more deadly, and we lacked treatments for it. Your kid is more likely to die on the walk/drive to school than from COVID at this point.

We can have discussions about appropriate mitigations (I'm for them). But it's important to keep things in perspective here. Failing to do everything possible to mitigate omicron in school isn't actually going to meaningfully threaten your kids.

Except hospitalizations are up.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/child-covid-hospitalizations-are-5-states-are-rise-rcna10089

Not in DC brainiac. But keep fear mongering

Sorry, brainiac. Can you help me parse this sentence then?

“The number of kids hospitalized with Covid has more than doubled in 10 states, as well as in Washington, D.C., and Puerto Rico, according to the analysis.”

If you read the rest of the thread before calling people names you’d see there’s a difference between child hospitalizations and all hospitalizations. You’d also see Antony Fauci explaining that the child hospitalization figure isn’t worth panicking over.

Try to keep up.

DP. Here to watch the nasty Catholic moms live their values.

You seem like a peach, PP.

This. So very, very Christ-like.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a petition going around to ask st Ann to reconsider its week of virtual learning. They seem to have gone off the deep end and apparently require outdoor masking.

Curious as to the reason for the petition?

What is wrong with virtual learning for one week considering the impact Omicron has had on the community in the last 2-3 weeks? Many families have been impacted and many others traveled and are now testing positive.

NP. We are a two parent working household, with demanding (especially in Jan). It's extremely challenging to work from home with very young children and we are obligated by our companies to either find daycare or take time off. There was no way to do this with HS kids being in school and therefore unable to babysit and help with virtual classwork. So now we have to split time off and disappoint our bosses at a time where job security is critical and definitely at risk with one of our employers.

Obviously if there was an actual exposure or our kid (or a classmate) tested positive we would have to do this - but to do it simply because our principal believes he knows better than the rest of the Arch Diocese and public/private schools in our area is beyond frustrating. Our kids have remained in school for the entire pandemic, and the protocols have worked.

NNP. There has also been a pretty disappointing lack of communication around this. An admin email announced the closure on 1/29 because "a number of students tested positive", but made it sound like it could go beyond a week. Principal confirmed it in another email two days later but at least said it was only a week. Nothing about strategy going forward, what the main issues are (staffing vs. in-school transmission), etc. The school is sending out longer emails on the hot lunch program than it is about this. I think that's a problem.

Yes the principal keeps pushing stuff that doesn’t actually help with COVID mitigation and puts the entire burden in families and students. Outdoor masking and closed schools are dumb. Vaccine mandate and test-to-return would actually matter but won’t even be discussed. This school is off the reservation.

I agree. Out diocesan school is also stuck in 2020. They think if they are "mostly open", but quarantining groups of exposed cases, they are great! No, adopt. test to stay and stop asking healthy kids to stay home!

Are the exposed cases being quarantined vaccinated? I thought the guidance was that vaccinated close contacts don't have to quarantine?

All of this could be solved with a "test to return" (whenever we go back at this point) and "test to stay" (if vaccinated and not showing symptoms after close contact) approach. It's not rocket science.

The unvaccinated should also be allowed to test and stay after exposure. Not everyone that is exposed contracts COVID. And, plenty of vaccinated people are getting sick.

Finally, at some point, even testing needs to end. COVID exposure is off the charts, you can't expect people to test and stay, or quarantine constantly. People need to accept that everyone is exposed every day, and only the sick, not the exposed, should be staying home.

I disagree with the statement the unvaccinated should be allowed to test and stay. Those vaccinated have a barrier that protects them that the unvaccinated do not have in their bodies. That is the consequence and if not showing symptoms after day 5, then the unvaccinated can test to return.

Why do you want to penalize the unvaccinated. The truth is that anyone can catch it and transmit it. So it’s completely irrational to penalize them. Your thinking perpetuates unreasonable and lengthy quarantines.

They can get vaxxed and then the penalty is removed. Til then, different standards apply.

Agree!

How many times will you accept required vax for your freedom. 3, 4, 5? Every 6 months, 5 months, how about 3 months.

Yawn. Go peddle your “Freedumb” propaganda somewhere else.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a petition going around to ask st Ann to reconsider its week of virtual learning. They seem to have gone off the deep end and apparently require outdoor masking.

Curious as to the reason for the petition?

What is wrong with virtual learning for one week considering the impact Omicron has had on the community in the last 2-3 weeks? Many families have been impacted and many others traveled and are now testing positive.

NP. We are a two parent working household, with demanding (especially in Jan). It's extremely challenging to work from home with very young children and we are obligated by our companies to either find daycare or take time off. There was no way to do this with HS kids being in school and therefore unable to babysit and help with virtual classwork. So now we have to split time off and disappoint our bosses at a time where job security is critical and definitely at risk with one of our employers.

Obviously if there was an actual exposure or our kid (or a classmate) tested positive we would have to do this - but to do it simply because our principal believes he knows better than the rest of the Arch Diocese and public/private schools in our area is beyond frustrating. Our kids have remained in school for the entire pandemic, and the protocols have worked.

NNP. There has also been a pretty disappointing lack of communication around this. An admin email announced the closure on 1/29 because "a number of students tested positive", but made it sound like it could go beyond a week. Principal confirmed it in another email two days later but at least said it was only a week. Nothing about strategy going forward, what the main issues are (staffing vs. in-school transmission), etc. The school is sending out longer emails on the hot lunch program than it is about this. I think that's a problem.

Yes the principal keeps pushing stuff that doesn’t actually help with COVID mitigation and puts the entire burden in families and students. Outdoor masking and closed schools are dumb. Vaccine mandate and test-to-return would actually matter but won’t even be discussed. This school is off the reservation.

I agree. Out diocesan school is also stuck in 2020. They think if they are "mostly open", but quarantining groups of exposed cases, they are great! No, adopt. test to stay and stop asking healthy kids to stay home!

Are the exposed cases being quarantined vaccinated? I thought the guidance was that vaccinated close contacts don't have to quarantine?

All of this could be solved with a "test to return" (whenever we go back at this point) and "test to stay" (if vaccinated and not showing symptoms after close contact) approach. It's not rocket science.

The unvaccinated should also be allowed to test and stay after exposure. Not everyone that is exposed contracts COVID. And, plenty of vaccinated people are getting sick.

Finally, at some point, even testing needs to end. COVID exposure is off the charts, you can't expect people to test and stay, or quarantine constantly. People need to accept that everyone is exposed every day, and only the sick, not the exposed, should be staying home.

I disagree with the statement the unvaccinated should be allowed to test and stay. Those vaccinated have a barrier that protects them that the unvaccinated do not have in their bodies. That is the consequence and if not showing symptoms after day 5, then the unvaccinated can test to return.

Why do you want to penalize the unvaccinated. The truth is that anyone can catch it and transmit it. So it’s completely irrational to penalize them. Your thinking perpetuates unreasonable and lengthy quarantines.

They can get vaxxed and then the penalty is removed. Til then, different standards apply.

Agree!

How many times will you accept required vax for your freedom. 3, 4, 5? Every 6 months, 5 months, how about 3 months.

If it will keep me out of the hospital, and able to contribute to society, as many times as needed.

This seems so rational to me, but there are people who make it sound unbearable.

Right. I take a multivitamin daily, get a flu shot annually, and do all other sorts of things on a certain regular schedule for my health and well-being. If my doctor advises vaccination again, I’ll follow my medical provider’s advice. Have you asked your doctor what’s recommended?

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a petition going around to ask st Ann to reconsider its week of virtual learning. They seem to have gone off the deep end and apparently require outdoor masking.

Curious as to the reason for the petition?

What is wrong with virtual learning for one week considering the impact Omicron has had on the community in the last 2-3 weeks? Many families have been impacted and many others traveled and are now testing positive.

NP. We are a two parent working household, with demanding (especially in Jan). It's extremely challenging to work from home with very young children and we are obligated by our companies to either find daycare or take time off. There was no way to do this with HS kids being in school and therefore unable to babysit and help with virtual classwork. So now we have to split time off and disappoint our bosses at a time where job security is critical and definitely at risk with one of our employers.

Obviously if there was an actual exposure or our kid (or a classmate) tested positive we would have to do this - but to do it simply because our principal believes he knows better than the rest of the Arch Diocese and public/private schools in our area is beyond frustrating. Our kids have remained in school for the entire pandemic, and the protocols have worked.

NNP. There has also been a pretty disappointing lack of communication around this. An admin email announced the closure on 1/29 because "a number of students tested positive", but made it sound like it could go beyond a week. Principal confirmed it in another email two days later but at least said it was only a week. Nothing about strategy going forward, what the main issues are (staffing vs. in-school transmission), etc. The school is sending out longer emails on the hot lunch program than it is about this. I think that's a problem.

Yes the principal keeps pushing stuff that doesn’t actually help with COVID mitigation and puts the entire burden in families and students. Outdoor masking and closed schools are dumb. Vaccine mandate and test-to-return would actually matter but won’t even be discussed. This school is off the reservation.

I agree. Out diocesan school is also stuck in 2020. They think if they are "mostly open", but quarantining groups of exposed cases, they are great! No, adopt. test to stay and stop asking healthy kids to stay home!

Are the exposed cases being quarantined vaccinated? I thought the guidance was that vaccinated close contacts don't have to quarantine?

All of this could be solved with a "test to return" (whenever we go back at this point) and "test to stay" (if vaccinated and not showing symptoms after close contact) approach. It's not rocket science.

The unvaccinated should also be allowed to test and stay after exposure. Not everyone that is exposed contracts COVID. And, plenty of vaccinated people are getting sick.

Finally, at some point, even testing needs to end. COVID exposure is off the charts, you can't expect people to test and stay, or quarantine constantly. People need to accept that everyone is exposed every day, and only the sick, not the exposed, should be staying home.

I disagree with the statement the unvaccinated should be allowed to test and stay. Those vaccinated have a barrier that protects them that the unvaccinated do not have in their bodies. That is the consequence and if not showing symptoms after day 5, then the unvaccinated can test to return.

Why do you want to penalize the unvaccinated. The truth is that anyone can catch it and transmit it. So it’s completely irrational to penalize them. Your thinking perpetuates unreasonable and lengthy quarantines.

They can get vaxxed and then the penalty is removed. Til then, different standards apply.

Agree!

How many times will you accept required vax for your freedom. 3, 4, 5? Every 6 months, 5 months, how about 3 months.

If it will keep me out of the hospital, and able to contribute to society, as many times as needed.

This seems so rational to me, but there are people who make it sound unbearable.

Right. I take a multivitamin daily, get a flu shot annually, and do all other sorts of things on a certain regular schedule for my health and well-being. If my doctor advises vaccination again, I’ll follow my medical provider’s advice. Have you asked your doctor what’s recommended?

Its great that you do all those things. But do you regularly judge and ostracize those that don't

Yes, my doctor does not recommend that either of my children be boosted.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a petition going around to ask st Ann to reconsider its week of virtual learning. They seem to have gone off the deep end and apparently require outdoor masking.

Curious as to the reason for the petition?

What is wrong with virtual learning for one week considering the impact Omicron has had on the community in the last 2-3 weeks? Many families have been impacted and many others traveled and are now testing positive.

NP. We are a two parent working household, with demanding (especially in Jan). It's extremely challenging to work from home with very young children and we are obligated by our companies to either find daycare or take time off. There was no way to do this with HS kids being in school and therefore unable to babysit and help with virtual classwork. So now we have to split time off and disappoint our bosses at a time where job security is critical and definitely at risk with one of our employers.

Obviously if there was an actual exposure or our kid (or a classmate) tested positive we would have to do this - but to do it simply because our principal believes he knows better than the rest of the Arch Diocese and public/private schools in our area is beyond frustrating. Our kids have remained in school for the entire pandemic, and the protocols have worked.

NNP. There has also been a pretty disappointing lack of communication around this. An admin email announced the closure on 1/29 because "a number of students tested positive", but made it sound like it could go beyond a week. Principal confirmed it in another email two days later but at least said it was only a week. Nothing about strategy going forward, what the main issues are (staffing vs. in-school transmission), etc. The school is sending out longer emails on the hot lunch program than it is about this. I think that's a problem.

Yes the principal keeps pushing stuff that doesn’t actually help with COVID mitigation and puts the entire burden in families and students. Outdoor masking and closed schools are dumb. Vaccine mandate and test-to-return would actually matter but won’t even be discussed. This school is off the reservation.

I agree. Out diocesan school is also stuck in 2020. They think if they are "mostly open", but quarantining groups of exposed cases, they are great! No, adopt. test to stay and stop asking healthy kids to stay home!

Are the exposed cases being quarantined vaccinated? I thought the guidance was that vaccinated close contacts don't have to quarantine?

All of this could be solved with a "test to return" (whenever we go back at this point) and "test to stay" (if vaccinated and not showing symptoms after close contact) approach. It's not rocket science.

The unvaccinated should also be allowed to test and stay after exposure. Not everyone that is exposed contracts COVID. And, plenty of vaccinated people are getting sick.

Finally, at some point, even testing needs to end. COVID exposure is off the charts, you can't expect people to test and stay, or quarantine constantly. People need to accept that everyone is exposed every day, and only the sick, not the exposed, should be staying home.

I disagree with the statement the unvaccinated should be allowed to test and stay. Those vaccinated have a barrier that protects them that the unvaccinated do not have in their bodies. That is the consequence and if not showing symptoms after day 5, then the unvaccinated can test to return.

Why do you want to penalize the unvaccinated. The truth is that anyone can catch it and transmit it. So it’s completely irrational to penalize them. Your thinking perpetuates unreasonable and lengthy quarantines.

They can get vaxxed and then the penalty is removed. Til then, different standards apply.

Agree!

How many times will you accept required vax for your freedom. 3, 4, 5? Every 6 months, 5 months, how about 3 months.

If it will keep me out of the hospital, and able to contribute to society, as many times as needed.

This seems so rational to me, but there are people who make it sound unbearable.

Right. I take a multivitamin daily, get a flu shot annually, and do all other sorts of things on a certain regular schedule for my health and well-being. If my doctor advises vaccination again, I’ll follow my medical provider’s advice. Have you asked your doctor what’s recommended?

I was legitimately completely out of commission for 48 hours for both my second dose and booster shots with full blown flu symptoms. Nevertheless caught covid over this winter break and comparatively had far more mild symptoms than I did from the second and third vaccines…but I still was sicker than my non boosted husband and both of my children with 1 dose and 0 doses, respectively, who also all tested positive for covid (none of us are high risk). I will be hard pressed to get another booster anytime soon.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a petition going around to ask st Ann to reconsider its week of virtual learning. They seem to have gone off the deep end and apparently require outdoor masking.

Curious as to the reason for the petition?

What is wrong with virtual learning for one week considering the impact Omicron has had on the community in the last 2-3 weeks? Many families have been impacted and many others traveled and are now testing positive.

NP. We are a two parent working household, with demanding (especially in Jan). It's extremely challenging to work from home with very young children and we are obligated by our companies to either find daycare or take time off. There was no way to do this with HS kids being in school and therefore unable to babysit and help with virtual classwork. So now we have to split time off and disappoint our bosses at a time where job security is critical and definitely at risk with one of our employers.

Obviously if there was an actual exposure or our kid (or a classmate) tested positive we would have to do this - but to do it simply because our principal believes he knows better than the rest of the Arch Diocese and public/private schools in our area is beyond frustrating. Our kids have remained in school for the entire pandemic, and the protocols have worked.

NNP. There has also been a pretty disappointing lack of communication around this. An admin email announced the closure on 1/29 because "a number of students tested positive", but made it sound like it could go beyond a week. Principal confirmed it in another email two days later but at least said it was only a week. Nothing about strategy going forward, what the main issues are (staffing vs. in-school transmission), etc. The school is sending out longer emails on the hot lunch program than it is about this. I think that's a problem.

Yes the principal keeps pushing stuff that doesn’t actually help with COVID mitigation and puts the entire burden in families and students. Outdoor masking and closed schools are dumb. Vaccine mandate and test-to-return would actually matter but won’t even be discussed. This school is off the reservation.

I agree. Out diocesan school is also stuck in 2020. They think if they are "mostly open", but quarantining groups of exposed cases, they are great! No, adopt. test to stay and stop asking healthy kids to stay home!

Are the exposed cases being quarantined vaccinated? I thought the guidance was that vaccinated close contacts don't have to quarantine?

All of this could be solved with a "test to return" (whenever we go back at this point) and "test to stay" (if vaccinated and not showing symptoms after close contact) approach. It's not rocket science.

The unvaccinated should also be allowed to test and stay after exposure. Not everyone that is exposed contracts COVID. And, plenty of vaccinated people are getting sick.

Finally, at some point, even testing needs to end. COVID exposure is off the charts, you can't expect people to test and stay, or quarantine constantly. People need to accept that everyone is exposed every day, and only the sick, not the exposed, should be staying home.

I disagree with the statement the unvaccinated should be allowed to test and stay. Those vaccinated have a barrier that protects them that the unvaccinated do not have in their bodies. That is the consequence and if not showing symptoms after day 5, then the unvaccinated can test to return.

Why do you want to penalize the unvaccinated. The truth is that anyone can catch it and transmit it. So it’s completely irrational to penalize them. Your thinking perpetuates unreasonable and lengthy quarantines.

They can get vaxxed and then the penalty is removed. Til then, different standards apply.

Agree!

How many times will you accept required vax for your freedom. 3, 4, 5? Every 6 months, 5 months, how about 3 months.

If it will keep me out of the hospital, and able to contribute to society, as many times as needed.

This seems so rational to me, but there are people who make it sound unbearable.

Right. I take a multivitamin daily, get a flu shot annually, and do all other sorts of things on a certain regular schedule for my health and well-being. If my doctor advises vaccination again, I’ll follow my medical provider’s advice. Have you asked your doctor what’s recommended?

I was legitimately completely out of commission for 48 hours for both my second dose and booster shots with full blown flu symptoms. Nevertheless caught covid over this winter break and comparatively had far more mild symptoms than I did from the second and third vaccines…but I still was sicker than my non boosted husband and both of my children with 1 dose and 0 doses, respectively, who also all tested positive for covid (none of us are high risk). I will be hard pressed to get another booster anytime soon.

Given your experience with covid and reactions to the vaccine, do you suppose you were at higher than average risk of being hospitalized with covid had you not been vaccinated? Sure, you felt pretty bad for awhile but you didn’t have to go to the hospital, right? I wonder if the vaccine saved you.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a petition going around to ask st Ann to reconsider its week of virtual learning. They seem to have gone off the deep end and apparently require outdoor masking.

Curious as to the reason for the petition?

What is wrong with virtual learning for one week considering the impact Omicron has had on the community in the last 2-3 weeks? Many families have been impacted and many others traveled and are now testing positive.

NP. We are a two parent working household, with demanding (especially in Jan). It's extremely challenging to work from home with very young children and we are obligated by our companies to either find daycare or take time off. There was no way to do this with HS kids being in school and therefore unable to babysit and help with virtual classwork. So now we have to split time off and disappoint our bosses at a time where job security is critical and definitely at risk with one of our employers.

Obviously if there was an actual exposure or our kid (or a classmate) tested positive we would have to do this - but to do it simply because our principal believes he knows better than the rest of the Arch Diocese and public/private schools in our area is beyond frustrating. Our kids have remained in school for the entire pandemic, and the protocols have worked.

NNP. There has also been a pretty disappointing lack of communication around this. An admin email announced the closure on 1/29 because "a number of students tested positive", but made it sound like it could go beyond a week. Principal confirmed it in another email two days later but at least said it was only a week. Nothing about strategy going forward, what the main issues are (staffing vs. in-school transmission), etc. The school is sending out longer emails on the hot lunch program than it is about this. I think that's a problem.

Yes the principal keeps pushing stuff that doesn’t actually help with COVID mitigation and puts the entire burden in families and students. Outdoor masking and closed schools are dumb. Vaccine mandate and test-to-return would actually matter but won’t even be discussed. This school is off the reservation.

I agree. Out diocesan school is also stuck in 2020. They think if they are "mostly open", but quarantining groups of exposed cases, they are great! No, adopt. test to stay and stop asking healthy kids to stay home!

Are the exposed cases being quarantined vaccinated? I thought the guidance was that vaccinated close contacts don't have to quarantine?

All of this could be solved with a "test to return" (whenever we go back at this point) and "test to stay" (if vaccinated and not showing symptoms after close contact) approach. It's not rocket science.

The unvaccinated should also be allowed to test and stay after exposure. Not everyone that is exposed contracts COVID. And, plenty of vaccinated people are getting sick.

Finally, at some point, even testing needs to end. COVID exposure is off the charts, you can't expect people to test and stay, or quarantine constantly. People need to accept that everyone is exposed every day, and only the sick, not the exposed, should be staying home.

I disagree with the statement the unvaccinated should be allowed to test and stay. Those vaccinated have a barrier that protects them that the unvaccinated do not have in their bodies. That is the consequence and if not showing symptoms after day 5, then the unvaccinated can test to return.

Why do you want to penalize the unvaccinated. The truth is that anyone can catch it and transmit it. So it’s completely irrational to penalize them. Your thinking perpetuates unreasonable and lengthy quarantines.

They can get vaxxed and then the penalty is removed. Til then, different standards apply.

Agree!

How many times will you accept required vax for your freedom. 3, 4, 5? Every 6 months, 5 months, how about 3 months.

If it will keep me out of the hospital, and able to contribute to society, as many times as needed.

This seems so rational to me, but there are people who make it sound unbearable.

Right. I take a multivitamin daily, get a flu shot annually, and do all other sorts of things on a certain regular schedule for my health and well-being. If my doctor advises vaccination again, I’ll follow my medical provider’s advice. Have you asked your doctor what’s recommended?

I was legitimately completely out of commission for 48 hours for both my second dose and booster shots with full blown flu symptoms. Nevertheless caught covid over this winter break and comparatively had far more mild symptoms than I did from the second and third vaccines…but I still was sicker than my non boosted husband and both of my children with 1 dose and 0 doses, respectively, who also all tested positive for covid (none of us are high risk). I will be hard pressed to get another booster anytime soon.

Given your experience with covid and reactions to the vaccine, do you suppose you were at higher than average risk of being hospitalized with covid had you not been vaccinated? Sure, you felt pretty bad for awhile but you didn’t have to go to the hospital, right? I wonder if the vaccine saved you.

That was my thought too. Again, seek guidance from your own medical provider. Yours seems like a case that would actually favor a booster when the time comes because I fear how things may have turned out without vaccination. Glad you are okay.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a petition going around to ask st Ann to reconsider its week of virtual learning. They seem to have gone off the deep end and apparently require outdoor masking.

Curious as to the reason for the petition?

What is wrong with virtual learning for one week considering the impact Omicron has had on the community in the last 2-3 weeks? Many families have been impacted and many others traveled and are now testing positive.

NP. We are a two parent working household, with demanding (especially in Jan). It's extremely challenging to work from home with very young children and we are obligated by our companies to either find daycare or take time off. There was no way to do this with HS kids being in school and therefore unable to babysit and help with virtual classwork. So now we have to split time off and disappoint our bosses at a time where job security is critical and definitely at risk with one of our employers.

Obviously if there was an actual exposure or our kid (or a classmate) tested positive we would have to do this - but to do it simply because our principal believes he knows better than the rest of the Arch Diocese and public/private schools in our area is beyond frustrating. Our kids have remained in school for the entire pandemic, and the protocols have worked.

NNP. There has also been a pretty disappointing lack of communication around this. An admin email announced the closure on 1/29 because "a number of students tested positive", but made it sound like it could go beyond a week. Principal confirmed it in another email two days later but at least said it was only a week. Nothing about strategy going forward, what the main issues are (staffing vs. in-school transmission), etc. The school is sending out longer emails on the hot lunch program than it is about this. I think that's a problem.

Yes the principal keeps pushing stuff that doesn’t actually help with COVID mitigation and puts the entire burden in families and students. Outdoor masking and closed schools are dumb. Vaccine mandate and test-to-return would actually matter but won’t even be discussed. This school is off the reservation.

I agree. Out diocesan school is also stuck in 2020. They think if they are "mostly open", but quarantining groups of exposed cases, they are great! No, adopt. test to stay and stop asking healthy kids to stay home!

Are the exposed cases being quarantined vaccinated? I thought the guidance was that vaccinated close contacts don't have to quarantine?

All of this could be solved with a "test to return" (whenever we go back at this point) and "test to stay" (if vaccinated and not showing symptoms after close contact) approach. It's not rocket science.

The unvaccinated should also be allowed to test and stay after exposure. Not everyone that is exposed contracts COVID. And, plenty of vaccinated people are getting sick.

Finally, at some point, even testing needs to end. COVID exposure is off the charts, you can't expect people to test and stay, or quarantine constantly. People need to accept that everyone is exposed every day, and only the sick, not the exposed, should be staying home.

I disagree with the statement the unvaccinated should be allowed to test and stay. Those vaccinated have a barrier that protects them that the unvaccinated do not have in their bodies. That is the consequence and if not showing symptoms after day 5, then the unvaccinated can test to return.

Why do you want to penalize the unvaccinated. The truth is that anyone can catch it and transmit it. So it’s completely irrational to penalize them. Your thinking perpetuates unreasonable and lengthy quarantines.

They can get vaxxed and then the penalty is removed. Til then, different standards apply.

Agree!

How many times will you accept required vax for your freedom. 3, 4, 5? Every 6 months, 5 months, how about 3 months.

If it will keep me out of the hospital, and able to contribute to society, as many times as needed.

This seems so rational to me, but there are people who make it sound unbearable.

Right. I take a multivitamin daily, get a flu shot annually, and do all other sorts of things on a certain regular schedule for my health and well-being. If my doctor advises vaccination again, I’ll follow my medical provider’s advice. Have you asked your doctor what’s recommended?

I was legitimately completely out of commission for 48 hours for both my second dose and booster shots with full blown flu symptoms. Nevertheless caught covid over this winter break and comparatively had far more mild symptoms than I did from the second and third vaccines…but I still was sicker than my non boosted husband and both of my children with 1 dose and 0 doses, respectively, who also all tested positive for covid (none of us are high risk). I will be hard pressed to get another booster anytime soon.

Given your experience with covid and reactions to the vaccine, do you suppose you were at higher than average risk of being hospitalized with covid had you not been vaccinated? Sure, you felt pretty bad for awhile but you didn’t have to go to the hospital, right? I wonder if the vaccine saved you.

DP with a very similar experience, even down to the kids with 1 and 0 vaccine doses... except my husband was boosted and wouldn't have even tested if it weren't for all of us having it. My reactions to the shots were sooo much worse than actual Covid. The actual Covid symptoms were so mild but just lasted longer. Maybe the bad reactions to the shots were our immune systems doing a really good job of training, so we could fight off the real thing so well? Maybe. But I know an adult (same gender, age, and fitness level as me) who only got 1 vaccine dose months ago, who also had very mild symptoms. Maybe it is all just a crap shoot, as much as I hate to think that.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a petition going around to ask st Ann to reconsider its week of virtual learning. They seem to have gone off the deep end and apparently require outdoor masking.

Just a new family trying to "shake things up a bit" at a school that has been around for over 70 years.

Bless...

From what I could tell the parents sled that instead of arbitrarily closing school because of a few positives to instead require testing to return. The principal rebuffed that request and instead shut it all down. Ridiculous. They don’t have vaccine staff (or student) mandates (so not surprised an older staff member died of COVID at another school, though still tragic to be sure) so instead put the burden of closed schools in children. The principal also said that he can’t the closing may go longer than just a week. St Ann continues to take ridiculous measures that don’t matter and hurt kids (closed schools, outdoor masking) and refuse to do any that may may staff upset (vaccine mandate, testing (costs $ that come from other parts of budget)).

I love the logic here. "We have a few positives now, and if we have too many positives we may have to shut down. So to avoid having so many positives we have to shut down, we're going to shut down right now. Also I'm not interested in anything that might help me to identify positives before they come in the door."

Shutting down and going virtual are 2 different things.

Ask the kids who got word today "APS is closed due to snow. Instead of a snow day, you have virtual learning. See you at 8:00".

Also the way a teacher died (and I noticed how you called them old) nearby, and my potentially unvaccinated and certainly not boosted kid has been told to wear a mask while playing contact sports are given the same emphasis is why there needs to be an alternative plan.

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Yes, some people will have bad reactions after vaccinations and boosters. The scientists told us that. Nobody should be surprised. In my house, all three adults, ages 49, 54 and 83 had no reaction after all three vaccinations. Both my kids felt crappy for one day after each shot. So yes, some people will feel bad, but many others have zero symptoms. Just get your vaccines so we can all move on with our lives. Also, we need the whole world to get vaccinated to avoid more variants.