Anti-Racism Assembly Today?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so uh for those of you who are worried about your six year olds detecting that ol' red hat drunky auntie susan is a racist, and then calling her out on it...

if your drunk babbling aunt is SO RACIST that a six year can see it, why aren't you calling her out yourself?

Except this wasn’t age appropriate. My son said his father and all family members on his father’s side of the family “are racist because they are white.” I’m not white. So my son wants to know why I would marry a racist white person. This is a damn mess

Power grab going on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know you’re not going to like this point, but it’s the epitome of privilege to think that you should be able to set the terms for discussions of racism. This is an uncomfortable topic of conversation and it sounds like the principal did a solid amount of frontloading prior to the session.

You are welcome to your views on how racism should be discussed but if you are trying tell me that "I" and other white people MUST discuss racism without regard to how we view the conversation, then it's the epitome of foolishness to think we are ever going to engage in an honest conversation with you about anything. Doyin Richards was obnoxious, referring to hypothetical white kids as "Little Ainsley" and "Little Connor" . His disdain for White people was evident. If my pointing that out makes you think I am privileged, then please explain to everyone and me why we should allow a man like that to talk to our children like he is some kind of respected authority figure they should listen to. He is not. Shame on Janney for bringing him into this important conversation. Oh, and of course, I don't actually expect you to explain anything since, you know, I'm privileged and therefore my opinions and feelings are not worthy of your consideration. Yeah, good luck with that attitude.

TL;DR: if you don't talk about racism in a way that feels friendly and warm enough, I retain the right to remain racist, out of spite.

LOL. You wish. Just because you are a moron doesn't make me a racist. Its people like you that will make this anti-racism movement backfire in the worst way possible. And do you know what that means? It means that your perfectly normal neighbors and friends who admit they are, to an extent, racist in an effort to become an "ally in training" will instead get sick of your putting them down and "in their place". Just go on ahead and continue acting like an ass. People will only put with your shit for so long, then they will decide you are not worth the effort.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our child’s teacher sent an email to all parents apologizing for the admittedly inappropriate assembly and saying how they are trying to “fix” things through class discussion

Really??

Yes. I don’t want to put the class or teacher but the effect it had on the kids in the class was extremely significant.

Can you post the email while deleting any identifying details?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know you’re not going to like this point, but it’s the epitome of privilege to think that you should be able to set the terms for discussions of racism. This is an uncomfortable topic of conversation and it sounds like the principal did a solid amount of frontloading prior to the session.

You are welcome to your views on how racism should be discussed but if you are trying tell me that "I" and other white people MUST discuss racism without regard to how we view the conversation, then it's the epitome of foolishness to think we are ever going to engage in an honest conversation with you about anything. Doyin Richards was obnoxious, referring to hypothetical white kids as "Little Ainsley" and "Little Connor" . His disdain for White people was evident. If my pointing that out makes you think I am privileged, then please explain to everyone and me why we should allow a man like that to talk to our children like he is some kind of respected authority figure they should listen to. He is not. Shame on Janney for bringing him into this important conversation. Oh, and of course, I don't actually expect you to explain anything since, you know, I'm privileged and therefore my opinions and feelings are not worthy of your consideration. Yeah, good luck with that attitude.

TL;DR: if you don't talk about racism in a way that feels friendly and warm enough, I retain the right to remain racist, out of spite.

LOL. You wish. Just because you are a moron doesn't make me a racist. Its people like you that will make this anti-racism movement backfire in the worst way possible. And do you know what that means? It means that your perfectly normal neighbors and friends who admit they are, to an extent, racist in an effort to become an "ally in training" will instead get sick of your putting them down and "in their place". Just go on ahead and continue acting like an ass. People will only put with your shit for so long, then they will decide you are not worth the effort.

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yeah that is pretty much what the TL;DR said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know you’re not going to like this point, but it’s the epitome of privilege to think that you should be able to set the terms for discussions of racism. This is an uncomfortable topic of conversation and it sounds like the principal did a solid amount of frontloading prior to the session.

You are welcome to your views on how racism should be discussed but if you are trying tell me that "I" and other white people MUST discuss racism without regard to how we view the conversation, then it's the epitome of foolishness to think we are ever going to engage in an honest conversation with you about anything. Doyin Richards was obnoxious, referring to hypothetical white kids as "Little Ainsley" and "Little Connor" . His disdain for White people was evident. If my pointing that out makes you think I am privileged, then please explain to everyone and me why we should allow a man like that to talk to our children like he is some kind of respected authority figure they should listen to. He is not. Shame on Janney for bringing him into this important conversation. Oh, and of course, I don't actually expect you to explain anything since, you know, I'm privileged and therefore my opinions and feelings are not worthy of your consideration. Yeah, good luck with that attitude.

TL;DR: if you don't talk about racism in a way that feels friendly and warm enough, I retain the right to remain racist, out of spite.

LOL. You wish. Just because you are a moron doesn't make me a racist. Its people like you that will make this anti-racism movement backfire in the worst way possible. And do you know what that means? It means that your perfectly normal neighbors and friends who admit they are, to an extent, racist in an effort to become an "ally in training" will instead get sick of your putting them down and "in their place". Just go on ahead and continue acting like an ass. People will only put with your shit for so long, then they will decide you are not worth the effort.

Literally you just argued that people who YOU ADMIT are somewhat racist will continue to be racist because someone was mean to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know you’re not going to like this point, but it’s the epitome of privilege to think that you should be able to set the terms for discussions of racism. This is an uncomfortable topic of conversation and it sounds like the principal did a solid amount of frontloading prior to the session.

You are welcome to your views on how racism should be discussed but if you are trying tell me that "I" and other white people MUST discuss racism without regard to how we view the conversation, then it's the epitome of foolishness to think we are ever going to engage in an honest conversation with you about anything. Doyin Richards was obnoxious, referring to hypothetical white kids as "Little Ainsley" and "Little Connor" . His disdain for White people was evident. If my pointing that out makes you think I am privileged, then please explain to everyone and me why we should allow a man like that to talk to our children like he is some kind of respected authority figure they should listen to. He is not. Shame on Janney for bringing him into this important conversation. Oh, and of course, I don't actually expect you to explain anything since, you know, I'm privileged and therefore my opinions and feelings are not worthy of your consideration. Yeah, good luck with that attitude.

TL;DR: if you don't talk about racism in a way that feels friendly and warm enough, I retain the right to remain racist, out of spite.

LOL. You wish. Just because you are a moron doesn't make me a racist. Its people like you that will make this anti-racism movement backfire in the worst way possible. And do you know what that means? It means that your perfectly normal neighbors and friends who admit they are, to an extent, racist in an effort to become an "ally in training" will instead get sick of your putting them down and "in their place". Just go on ahead and continue acting like an ass. People will only put with your shit for so long, then they will decide you are not worth the effort.

WOW. You are not doing yourself any favors here, bud.

[Anonymous]

This is all part of the evil plan. No need to redraw the Deal/Wilson boundaries. Drive families away from the large feeder schools, drive up prices at DC privates by increasing demand. Then white folks will move out of DC all together and DC will become chocolate city again!!!! Bowser and Ferebee are geniuses.

[Anonymous]

I asked my second grader about it again. She said the sad parts were learning that Black people had been bought and sold and that children were taken from their parents. I said that that is what slavery was and what it meant to own another person. She has learned about slavery in rote terms, but I don’t think she really internalized what it meant.
She said there was also some kind of skit or example where white teens were being mean to Black teens and that also made her sad.
This all sounded fine to me. She didn’t sound scared at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Programs like these increase the number of people homeschooling.

Has anyone taken into account that little kids are not the most accurate reporters?

I think most of us have known young kids who made up whopping stories that were believed by teachers--an only child who claimed to have siblings; the child of an actuary who said his dad was a firefighter; a child who lived in the local trailer park who said he lived in a mansion.

Assume for a moment that a white child has parents and an extended family who are not the least bit racist. So, when asked to list the racists in their family, the child leaves the space blank. A teacher erroneously concludes the child did not complete the assignment and tells the child to answer the question. Kid then fills in a name because the kid learns that the "right" way to answer the question is to name someone. There's no verification process here--if the kid says Aunt Jennifer is a racist, Aunt Jennifer is a racist.

Moreover, even very young children have figured out that being a racist is something very bad and in anger can call someone a racist because they want to hurt their feelings.

So, personally I think people who say "If you're not a racist, you have nothing to worry about" are just plain wrong.

do u kno what concern trolling is or did u independently invent it

[Anonymous]

It ain’t rocket science. Teach kids to treat all others as human beings. Let’s start with that in elementary and go from there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know you’re not going to like this point, but it’s the epitome of privilege to think that you should be able to set the terms for discussions of racism. This is an uncomfortable topic of conversation and it sounds like the principal did a solid amount of frontloading prior to the session.

Oh yeah, principal’s a real peach. God forbid she smile at a white kid lest she betray her whole race

That is not my impression of her at all.

Funny when the principal was white this didn’t come up. Makes me think some parents are indeed prejudice or racist themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It ain’t rocket science. Teach kids to treat all others as human beings. Let’s start with that in elementary and go from there.

But in this case, the school chose the “Anti-racist Fight Club” who put on an “initiation” which included violent terms like “curb stomping” (google it).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so uh for those of you who are worried about your six year olds detecting that ol' red hat drunky auntie susan is a racist, and then calling her out on it...

if your drunk babbling aunt is SO RACIST that a six year can see it, why aren't you calling her out yourself?

Except this wasn’t age appropriate. My son said his father and all family members on his father’s side of the family “are racist because they are white.” I’m not white. So my son wants to know why I would marry a racist white person. This is a damn mess

Given what we know about the presentation, this is not a surprising outcome.

If you repeatedly say the term “racist white supremacist” to a child, eventually the terms become synonymous by themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so uh for those of you who are worried about your six year olds detecting that ol' red hat drunky auntie susan is a racist, and then calling her out on it...

if your drunk babbling aunt is SO RACIST that a six year can see it, why aren't you calling her out yourself?

Except this wasn’t age appropriate. My son said his father and all family members on his father’s side of the family “are racist because they are white.” I’m not white. So my son wants to know why I would marry a racist white person. This is a damn mess

Given what we know about the presentation, this is not a surprising outcome.

If you repeatedly say the term “racist white supremacist” to a child, eventually the terms become synonymous by themselves.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so uh for those of you who are worried about your six year olds detecting that ol' red hat drunky auntie susan is a racist, and then calling her out on it...

if your drunk babbling aunt is SO RACIST that a six year can see it, why aren't you calling her out yourself?

Except this wasn’t age appropriate. My son said his father and all family members on his father’s side of the family “are racist because they are white.” I’m not white. So my son wants to know why I would marry a racist white person. This is a damn mess

Given what we know about the presentation, this is not a surprising outcome.

If you repeatedly say the term “racist white supremacist” to a child, eventually the terms become synonymous by themselves.

+1

Yeah - I think that concept of “white supremacy” is a perfectly appropriate topic for students capable of understanding that it’s not and indictment of white folks per se and that all people can act in ways that reinforce white supremacy, even black folks. No way elementary kids can make sense of that, so don’t intro the concept to them. It’s like, if you actually care about these issues you’d be much more careful in how you sequence and intro this stuff….but I truly think this is just a box checking exercise for some rather than an real effort to sensitize kids to these issues in a constructive way. No, don’t shy away from uncomfortable or even upsetting conversations, but also don’t lunge into areas before kids are capable of making sense of them. It’s counterproductive.

I think the most important thing to do with little kids is to avoid giving them a distorted (peachy cream) view of history by omission. Like, don’t have teaching materials that show black slaves smiling in the field. Don’t imply that all Americans came here as immigrants. Don’t cast the Civil War as a conflict of the nebulous concept of “states’ rights”. You get the picture. No, better to avoid such topics in full until the time is right then to essentially lie to kids about them, only to have the lies take hold at age 5-7, which makes it difficult to dislodge them at 10-12….or hell, 55!