Let's kill the "pro-life" classification

Anonymous
From here on out let's call it what it is: "Anti-Choice". I'm actually not vocal on the abortion debate, but I was just reading an Off Topic thread where someone said they'd be upset if their kid grew up to be "pro-life" and it struck me that there should be a larger movement to change this classification. The issue is choice. Many people who want choice to remain legal are pro life. I've never understood why advocates of choice, continue to refer classify people as "pro life."
Anonymous
How original.
Anonymous
If they are willing to call us pro-choice, I am willing to call them pro-life. Those who call us anti-abortion, I label anti-choice (or anti-woman).
Anonymous
That is a good idea. Similarly, we should change "pro-choice" to "anti-life".
Anonymous
No, it seems antagonistic for no reason.

I am pro-choice.
Anonymous
Actually the issue isn't about choice it is about abortion. So let's stick to pro-abortion or anti-abortion.

I am good with that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Actually the issue isn't about choice it is about abortion. So let's stick to pro-abortion or anti-abortion.

I am good with that.


agree.
Anonymous
I agree that the semantics are important. I am not for abortions, but I am avidly pro-choice. The distinction being that how I feel personally about abortion should not be enmeshed into polictics and law. So, opponents to abortion rights and access are politically against the "choice" that women have to control their bodies.
Anonymous
OP here, thanks 12:45 I like that. I think "life" is so charged. Perhaps it should just be used to discuss the death penalty: "pro life" vs "anti life".
Anonymous
Didn't see 13:04 when I posted, but I think if it were pro- and anti- abortion, that pro abortion includes the political choice, rather than my personal feelings about life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Actually the issue isn't about choice it is about abortion. So let's stick to pro-abortion or anti-abortion.

I am good with that.


agree.


Wait, what?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Actually the issue isn't about choice it is about abortion. So let's stick to pro-abortion or anti-abortion.

I am good with that.

agree.

Wait, what?

China is pro-abortion. I am anti-abortion, but abhor the attempt to force someone else to adhere to my beliefs when her body and her life are the ones that are affected. That makes me pro-choice, not pro-abortion.

If we want to argue semantics, "pro-life" should be the position that women must have sex with someone every time they ovulate; otherwise potential lives are lost. Any terminology can be butchered by unfriendly interpretation. Debate by sound-bite is anti-debate!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That is a good idea. Similarly, we should change "pro-choice" to "anti-life".


But that makes no sense. Supporters of abortion rights want to keep legal the choice to terminate (or not) a pregnancy. They aren't in favor of abortions. They like "life" just fine. The same issue relates to "pro-life". You're not "pro-life". You're against protecting women's right to terminate unwanted pregnancies. There may be abortion opponents that are "pro-life" in the sense that they're stridently against the death penalty, or in favor of generously funding neonatal and early childhood care. But that's incidental to the abortion question.

So, in short, "pro-life" or "anti-life"? Meaningless marketing terms.
"Pro-choice or "anti-choice"? Anodyne descriptor of one's policy position.
Anonymous
This is a bit like arguing about whether terminally-ill patients should be allowed the option of assisted suicide, and calling the opposing viewpoints, "anti-suicide" and "pro-suicide". In other words, either laughable in its intellectual dishonesty on the one hand, or just cretinously idiotic on the other.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I agree that the semantics are important. I am not for abortions, but I am avidly pro-choice. The distinction being that how I feel personally about abortion should not be enmeshed into polictics and law. So, opponents to abortion rights and access are politically against the "choice" that women have to control their bodies.


[channeling Stephen Colbert]: Ok, I'll just put you down as "hooray, abortions!"

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