War with Iran Part II

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Kushner is going to Moscow first before negotiating with Iran.

He is the unelected and unconfirmed for anything son-in-law of Trump who can't get a security clearance. And he is going to Moscow to get instructions from Putin.

Where is little Marco? Did his Florsheim shoes give him blisters? And where is JD Vance? Another holiday?

Why aren't they all going to Moscow? Why just Jared Kushner?

Rubio and Vance are completely frozen out from everything while the son-in-law pursues his greed and interests.

Where are you getting this? Post your source.

His own fever dreams

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s a state that has destroyed the entire region and still cries that they are the victim.

I know, right? Iran has sponsored terrorism all over the ME and against Americans, yet still they pretend their hands are clean.

[Anonymous]

The mullahs of Iran are utter psychopaths. They celebrate their suicide bombers as heroes.

https://aoav.org.uk/2025/the-martyrs-logic-why-provoking-iran-risks-a-global-spiral-of-violence/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a state that has destroyed the entire region and still cries that they are the victim.

I know, right? Iran has sponsored terrorism all over the ME and against Americans, yet still they pretend their hands are clean. [/quote

+1

Moral high ground is nowhere to be found among Israel and Iran.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Iran was going to execute 8 women.

Stopped by Trump.

How many women did trump kill in Iran since this war started?

DP. Funny that the number of Iranian women killed by IRAN doesn't seem to concern you.

Facts and Figures

At least 31 women were executed in 2024—the highest number in over 15 years.
A minimum of 241 women were executed between 2010 and 2024.
121 women (50%) were identified only by initials or remained completely anonymous.
114 women were executed for murder, while 107 women were executed on drug-related charges.
Four women were executed for security-related charges such as moharebeh (waging war against God) and ifsad-fil-arz (corruption on earth). Among them was one Jewish woman and two Kurdish political prisoners.
9 of the executed women were child brides, three of whom were also child offenders, meaning they were under 18 at the time of their alleged crime.
70% of women executed for murder were accused of killing their husbands or partners, often in contexts of domestic violence.
Women from marginalised provinces like Sistan and Baluchistan were disproportionately represented among drug-related executions, highlighting the intersection of systemic discrimination, poverty, and judicial bias.

https://www.iranhr.net/en/articles/7263/

Whatabout? Howabout? When you find an example that reaches the scope of 80 years of apartheid, genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity against indigenous inhabitants and every single neighbor, maybe that will work.

Israel First going damn mad with their desperation. The zio playbook has been shredded and there is no replacement. The days of wagging the dog and justifying genocide and war crimes is over. The entire world despises Israel. America, the only friend in the world, is gone because gaslighting and brainwashing children during public education no longer works. When the EU finally sanctions Israel, how long is that that bought friendship with Greece and Cyprus going to last? Or the ones with GCC countries?

When Israel is finally ostracized by America and has to sit in the corner forever with sanctions until the democracy they claim is the democracy they realize, we'll see how oppressive all these other countries are without a POS constantly lobbing bombs and killing hundreds of thousands of people.

But it's safe to say that Israel has been directly responsible for the fate of over a dozen countries after 80 years of terrorism, destabilization efforts, and regime changes.

You are utterly comical. No mention from you about the past 80 years of IRANIAN terrorism against not only Israelis and other ME countries, but also against Americans. Hezbollah and Hamas are Iranian proxies and have targeted Israelis and Americans for decades - since 1979. The Iranian regime has waged a sustained campaign of violence against the United States, killing U.S. troops, targeting diplomats and civilians, and plotting attacks on American soil. "Death to America" is their mantra.

You can certainly spin your anti-Israel fantasies all you want, but you are on the wrong side of history. Speaking of which, learn some.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5765178-inside-irans-long-history-of-attacks-on-us-a-timeline/
https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2020/sep/16/timeline-iran-assassinations-and-plot
https://www.cfr.org/articles/irans-regional-armed-network

The USA has killed far more Iranian uniformed and civilians citizens, than the other way. There’s absolutely no comparison. The US-Iran conflict did not begin in 1979, but 1953. The US shot the first bullets , killing not only innocent Iranian civilians but the democratically elected president. After firing the first shots and successfully executing a coup, the UK and USA install their puppet, the shah of Iran.

In 1979, before the taking of American hostages, the Iranian people asked the USA for its help with the shah. We decided to back the dictator shah of Iran. The shah was just as bloody, repressive and murderous as the current Iranian regime you lament so much about. However the USA did not care, as long as the shah bent the knee to the USA and uk, and did as told.

From 1980-1988, the USA provided weapons, intelligence, and money to saddam Hassan to fight America’s proxy war against the Iranians. Millions of Iranians were killed with weapons and ammo made in the USA.

In 1988, the us navy shot down an Iranian civilian aircraft, all 266 plus passengers were killed.

June 2025, USA bomb Iran. Iran does not retaliate, but its citizens have been murdered by Israel and the USA.

February 2026, US and Israel bomb Iran and Iran decides to defend itself. Thousands have died in this latest bombing, and more continues to suffer. The USA is shocked that the smaller country decided to stand up to the bully, knowing that in the end it may still lose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The mullahs of Iran are utter psychopaths. They celebrate their suicide bombers as heroes.

https://aoav.org.uk/2025/the-martyrs-logic-why-provoking-iran-risks-a-global-spiral-of-violence/

What do we call our soldiers when the CiC send them on suicide missions. They don’t all come back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The first Brits and Americans to die and first suicide bombs to even go off in the region came by way of Israel.

Hezbollah, sponsored by Iran, were the first suicide bombers in the area. They love that kind of thing because then they can pretend to be "martyrs."

The words terrorist and suicide bomber were first used by the Brits to describe militant Jewish groups. During the 1930s-1940s, the Irgun and Lehi would use no return attacks, bombings that were suicide missions. The British are great at documentation thankfully.

The record doesn’t lie

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Iran was going to execute 8 women.

Stopped by Trump.

How many women did trump kill in Iran since this war started?

DP. Funny that the number of Iranian women killed by IRAN doesn't seem to concern you.

Facts and Figures

At least 31 women were executed in 2024—the highest number in over 15 years.
A minimum of 241 women were executed between 2010 and 2024.
121 women (50%) were identified only by initials or remained completely anonymous.
114 women were executed for murder, while 107 women were executed on drug-related charges.
Four women were executed for security-related charges such as moharebeh (waging war against God) and ifsad-fil-arz (corruption on earth). Among them was one Jewish woman and two Kurdish political prisoners.
9 of the executed women were child brides, three of whom were also child offenders, meaning they were under 18 at the time of their alleged crime.
70% of women executed for murder were accused of killing their husbands or partners, often in contexts of domestic violence.
Women from marginalised provinces like Sistan and Baluchistan were disproportionately represented among drug-related executions, highlighting the intersection of systemic discrimination, poverty, and judicial bias.

https://www.iranhr.net/en/articles/7263/

Whatabout? Howabout? When you find an example that reaches the scope of 80 years of apartheid, genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity against indigenous inhabitants and every single neighbor, maybe that will work.

Israel First going damn mad with their desperation. The zio playbook has been shredded and there is no replacement. The days of wagging the dog and justifying genocide and war crimes is over. The entire world despises Israel. America, the only friend in the world, is gone because gaslighting and brainwashing children during public education no longer works. When the EU finally sanctions Israel, how long is that that bought friendship with Greece and Cyprus going to last? Or the ones with GCC countries?

When Israel is finally ostracized by America and has to sit in the corner forever with sanctions until the democracy they claim is the democracy they realize, we'll see how oppressive all these other countries are without a POS constantly lobbing bombs and killing hundreds of thousands of people.

But it's safe to say that Israel has been directly responsible for the fate of over a dozen countries after 80 years of terrorism, destabilization efforts, and regime changes.

You are utterly comical. No mention from you about the past 80 years of IRANIAN terrorism against not only Israelis and other ME countries, but also against Americans. Hezbollah and Hamas are Iranian proxies and have targeted Israelis and Americans for decades - since 1979. The Iranian regime has waged a sustained campaign of violence against the United States, killing U.S. troops, targeting diplomats and civilians, and plotting attacks on American soil. "Death to America" is their mantra.

You can certainly spin your anti-Israel fantasies all you want, but you are on the wrong side of history. Speaking of which, learn some.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5765178-inside-irans-long-history-of-attacks-on-us-a-timeline/
https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2020/sep/16/timeline-iran-assassinations-and-plot
https://www.cfr.org/articles/irans-regional-armed-network

The USA has killed far more Iranian uniformed and civilians citizens, than the other way. There’s absolutely no comparison. The US-Iran conflict did not begin in 1979, but 1953. The US shot the first bullets , killing not only innocent Iranian civilians but the democratically elected president. After firing the first shots and successfully executing a coup, the UK and USA install their puppet, the shah of Iran.

In 1979, before the taking of American hostages, the Iranian people asked the USA for its help with the shah. We decided to back the dictator shah of Iran. The shah was just as bloody, repressive and murderous as the current Iranian regime you lament so much about. However the USA did not care, as long as the shah bent the knee to the USA and uk, and did as told.

From 1980-1988, the USA provided weapons, intelligence, and money to saddam Hassan to fight America’s proxy war against the Iranians. Millions of Iranians were killed with weapons and ammo made in the USA.

In 1988, the us navy shot down an Iranian civilian aircraft, all 266 plus passengers were killed.

June 2025, USA bomb Iran. Iran does not retaliate, but its citizens have been murdered by Israel and the USA.

February 2026, US and Israel bomb Iran and Iran decides to defend itself. Thousands have died in this latest bombing, and more continues to suffer. The USA is shocked that the smaller country decided to stand up to the bully, knowing that in the end it may still lose.

Yes, this is the documented history. Now I would also add that the current Iranian regime is horrible to its own people. But unless someone starts with 1953, they have little credibility on this topic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shah Meer Baloch
Iran has made no request for talks with the Americans and has so far completely rejected US requests for negotiations due to their excessive demands, Iran’s state media Tasnim News reported, rejecting the White House press secretary earlier remarks about Tehran’s request for talks.

Take that, kkkaroline. Stop telling lies.

It's funny that you actually believe... Iranian state media. But you do you!

Some of us find Iran media and independent media like drop site news much more reliable than Epstein class media. Sorry, I know this can be very triggering for zionists since it goes against their propaganda narrative.

Ah, the person constantly posting from "drop site news" is here! How do you know it's reliable? Because it fits your narrative? And I guess Iranian state propaganda does too, so that tells us all we need to know.

Let's take an extreme. What if 1% of drop site news is truthful? That's one percentage point higher than the Trump administration. Let's me honest. If Trump makes any kind of statement about Iran, do you genuinely believe it? Of course you don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shah Meer Baloch
Iran has made no request for talks with the Americans and has so far completely rejected US requests for negotiations due to their excessive demands, Iran’s state media Tasnim News reported, rejecting the White House press secretary earlier remarks about Tehran’s request for talks.

Take that, kkkaroline. Stop telling lies.

It's funny that you actually believe... Iranian state media. But you do you!

Some of us find Iran media and independent media like drop site news much more reliable than Epstein class media. Sorry, I know this can be very triggering for zionists since it goes against their propaganda narrative.

Ah, the person constantly posting from "drop site news" is here! How do you know it's reliable? Because it fits your narrative? And I guess Iranian state propaganda does too, so that tells us all we need to know.

Let's take an extreme. What if 1% of drop site news is truthful? That's one percentage point higher than the Trump administration. Let's me honest. If Trump makes any kind of statement about Iran, do you genuinely believe it? Of course you don't.

Israel supporters loathe Drop Site News because it reports the truth. And the truth is obviously antisemitic to them. They would much rather you listen to Bari Weiss, Mark Levin, Laura Loomer, or Ben Shapiro as news sources. Basically to them, only Israel firsters can offer credible news.

[Anonymous]

I wish you’d stop arguing, this is supposed to be about war updates. It’s not our job to save Iran. It is our job to deport on Israel after they’ve proved to have a criminal as a leader.
I’m struggling to understand what our delegation of unelected and unqualified idiots is doing in Pakistan- Iran won’t see them. So they are just standing around pretending to be important? What is the point of the wasted jet fuel?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Iran was going to execute 8 women.

Stopped by Trump.

How many women did trump kill in Iran since this war started?

DP. Funny that the number of Iranian women killed by IRAN doesn't seem to concern you.

Facts and Figures

At least 31 women were executed in 2024—the highest number in over 15 years.
A minimum of 241 women were executed between 2010 and 2024.
121 women (50%) were identified only by initials or remained completely anonymous.
114 women were executed for murder, while 107 women were executed on drug-related charges.
Four women were executed for security-related charges such as moharebeh (waging war against God) and ifsad-fil-arz (corruption on earth). Among them was one Jewish woman and two Kurdish political prisoners.
9 of the executed women were child brides, three of whom were also child offenders, meaning they were under 18 at the time of their alleged crime.
70% of women executed for murder were accused of killing their husbands or partners, often in contexts of domestic violence.
Women from marginalised provinces like Sistan and Baluchistan were disproportionately represented among drug-related executions, highlighting the intersection of systemic discrimination, poverty, and judicial bias.

https://www.iranhr.net/en/articles/7263/

Whatabout? Howabout? When you find an example that reaches the scope of 80 years of apartheid, genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity against indigenous inhabitants and every single neighbor, maybe that will work.

Israel First going damn mad with their desperation. The zio playbook has been shredded and there is no replacement. The days of wagging the dog and justifying genocide and war crimes is over. The entire world despises Israel. America, the only friend in the world, is gone because gaslighting and brainwashing children during public education no longer works. When the EU finally sanctions Israel, how long is that that bought friendship with Greece and Cyprus going to last? Or the ones with GCC countries?

When Israel is finally ostracized by America and has to sit in the corner forever with sanctions until the democracy they claim is the democracy they realize, we'll see how oppressive all these other countries are without a POS constantly lobbing bombs and killing hundreds of thousands of people.

But it's safe to say that Israel has been directly responsible for the fate of over a dozen countries after 80 years of terrorism, destabilization efforts, and regime changes.

You are utterly comical. No mention from you about the past 80 years of IRANIAN terrorism against not only Israelis and other ME countries, but also against Americans. Hezbollah and Hamas are Iranian proxies and have targeted Israelis and Americans for decades - since 1979. The Iranian regime has waged a sustained campaign of violence against the United States, killing U.S. troops, targeting diplomats and civilians, and plotting attacks on American soil. "Death to America" is their mantra.

You can certainly spin your anti-Israel fantasies all you want, but you are on the wrong side of history. Speaking of which, learn some.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5765178-inside-irans-long-history-of-attacks-on-us-a-timeline/
https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2020/sep/16/timeline-iran-assassinations-and-plot
https://www.cfr.org/articles/irans-regional-armed-network

The USA has killed far more Iranian uniformed and civilians citizens, than the other way. There’s absolutely no comparison. The US-Iran conflict did not begin in 1979, but 1953. The US shot the first bullets , killing not only innocent Iranian civilians but the democratically elected president. After firing the first shots and successfully executing a coup, the UK and USA install their puppet, the shah of Iran.

In 1979, before the taking of American hostages, the Iranian people asked the USA for its help with the shah. We decided to back the dictator shah of Iran. The shah was just as bloody, repressive and murderous as the current Iranian regime you lament so much about. However the USA did not care, as long as the shah bent the knee to the USA and uk, and did as told.

From 1980-1988, the USA provided weapons, intelligence, and money to saddam Hassan to fight America’s proxy war against the Iranians. Millions of Iranians were killed with weapons and ammo made in the USA.

In 1988, the us navy shot down an Iranian civilian aircraft, all 266 plus passengers were killed.

June 2025, USA bomb Iran. Iran does not retaliate, but its citizens have been murdered by Israel and the USA.

February 2026, US and Israel bomb Iran and Iran decides to defend itself. Thousands have died in this latest bombing, and more continues to suffer. The USA is shocked that the smaller country decided to stand up to the bully, knowing that in the end it may still lose.

Yes, this is the documented history. Now I would also add that the current Iranian regime is horrible to its own people. But unless someone starts with 1953, they have little credibility on this topic.

DP so you would just forget about the Iranian Holocaust during WW2 committed by the US and Britain?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s a state that has destroyed the entire region and still cries that they are the victim.

Everyone knows this. Israel is an extreme fundamentalist terrorist regime. They attack every country in the region and run back home to hide behind the US.

Israel unprovoked has killed 100’s of thousands in the region, committed countless acts of terrorism, used proxies to destabilize the regime, stolen land, etc.

Israel regime and people must be brought under control. Israel’s Nuclear weapons, enrichment, missiles and Air Force must be given up. The West Bank, Jordan and Gaza will become a new Palestinian state with Jerusalem annexed as punishment for Israel’s actions. In addition heavy reparations must be paid by Israel for at least 50 years.

This is the only logical way forward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Iran was going to execute 8 women.

Stopped by Trump.

How many women did trump kill in Iran since this war started?

DP. Funny that the number of Iranian women killed by IRAN doesn't seem to concern you.

Facts and Figures

At least 31 women were executed in 2024—the highest number in over 15 years.
A minimum of 241 women were executed between 2010 and 2024.
121 women (50%) were identified only by initials or remained completely anonymous.
114 women were executed for murder, while 107 women were executed on drug-related charges.
Four women were executed for security-related charges such as moharebeh (waging war against God) and ifsad-fil-arz (corruption on earth). Among them was one Jewish woman and two Kurdish political prisoners.
9 of the executed women were child brides, three of whom were also child offenders, meaning they were under 18 at the time of their alleged crime.
70% of women executed for murder were accused of killing their husbands or partners, often in contexts of domestic violence.
Women from marginalised provinces like Sistan and Baluchistan were disproportionately represented among drug-related executions, highlighting the intersection of systemic discrimination, poverty, and judicial bias.

https://www.iranhr.net/en/articles/7263/

Whatabout? Howabout? When you find an example that reaches the scope of 80 years of apartheid, genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity against indigenous inhabitants and every single neighbor, maybe that will work.

Israel First going damn mad with their desperation. The zio playbook has been shredded and there is no replacement. The days of wagging the dog and justifying genocide and war crimes is over. The entire world despises Israel. America, the only friend in the world, is gone because gaslighting and brainwashing children during public education no longer works. When the EU finally sanctions Israel, how long is that that bought friendship with Greece and Cyprus going to last? Or the ones with GCC countries?

When Israel is finally ostracized by America and has to sit in the corner forever with sanctions until the democracy they claim is the democracy they realize, we'll see how oppressive all these other countries are without a POS constantly lobbing bombs and killing hundreds of thousands of people.

But it's safe to say that Israel has been directly responsible for the fate of over a dozen countries after 80 years of terrorism, destabilization efforts, and regime changes.

You are utterly comical. No mention from you about the past 80 years of IRANIAN terrorism against not only Israelis and other ME countries, but also against Americans. Hezbollah and Hamas are Iranian proxies and have targeted Israelis and Americans for decades - since 1979. The Iranian regime has waged a sustained campaign of violence against the United States, killing U.S. troops, targeting diplomats and civilians, and plotting attacks on American soil. "Death to America" is their mantra.

You can certainly spin your anti-Israel fantasies all you want, but you are on the wrong side of history. Speaking of which, learn some.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5765178-inside-irans-long-history-of-attacks-on-us-a-timeline/
https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2020/sep/16/timeline-iran-assassinations-and-plot
https://www.cfr.org/articles/irans-regional-armed-network

The USA has killed far more Iranian uniformed and civilians citizens, than the other way. There’s absolutely no comparison. The US-Iran conflict did not begin in 1979, but 1953. The US shot the first bullets , killing not only innocent Iranian civilians but the democratically elected president. After firing the first shots and successfully executing a coup, the UK and USA install their puppet, the shah of Iran.

In 1979, before the taking of American hostages, the Iranian people asked the USA for its help with the shah. We decided to back the dictator shah of Iran. The shah was just as bloody, repressive and murderous as the current Iranian regime you lament so much about. However the USA did not care, as long as the shah bent the knee to the USA and uk, and did as told.

From 1980-1988, the USA provided weapons, intelligence, and money to saddam Hassan to fight America’s proxy war against the Iranians. Millions of Iranians were killed with weapons and ammo made in the USA.

In 1988, the us navy shot down an Iranian civilian aircraft, all 266 plus passengers were killed.

June 2025, USA bomb Iran. Iran does not retaliate, but its citizens have been murdered by Israel and the USA.

February 2026, US and Israel bomb Iran and Iran decides to defend itself. Thousands have died in this latest bombing, and more continues to suffer. The USA is shocked that the smaller country decided to stand up to the bully, knowing that in the end it may still lose.

Yes, this is the documented history. Now I would also add that the current Iranian regime is horrible to its own people. But unless someone starts with 1953, they have little credibility on this topic.

DP so you would just forget about the Iranian Holocaust during WW2 committed by the US and Britain?

Let's pause and do a fact-based reality check here -

The thread shows two extremes: one portraying Iran as a long‑suffering innocent victim of constant Western aggression, and the other portraying Iran as the sole aggressor responsible for decades of terrorism. The reality is more complex.

It is true that the U.S. and U.K. overthrew Iran’s elected government in 1953, supported the Shah’s repressive regime, backed Iraq during the Iran–Iraq War, and were responsible for the 1988 downing of a civilian airliner. These events deeply shaped Iranian public opinion and the worldview of the post‑1979 regime. They are legitimate historical grievances and cannot be dismissed.

However, it is equally true that since 1979, Iran’s government has carried out or supported numerous violent attacks on civilians, U.S. troops, diplomats, and regional neighbors through proxies such as Hezbollah, Hamas, and various Iraqi militias. Iran has also engaged in assassinations abroad, hostage‑taking, and severe domestic repression, including executions and crackdowns on dissent.

Presenting Iran as a passive victim ignores decades of documented actions by the Iranian state that have harmed both its own citizens and people in other countries. Any fact‑based view recognizes both the early Western interventions that fueled Iranian resentment along with the Iranian regime’s own long, brutal record of violence, repression, and destabilizing behavior.

The dishonesty in these threads needs to be recalibrated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Iran was going to execute 8 women.

Stopped by Trump.

How many women did trump kill in Iran since this war started?

DP. Funny that the number of Iranian women killed by IRAN doesn't seem to concern you.

Facts and Figures

At least 31 women were executed in 2024—the highest number in over 15 years.
A minimum of 241 women were executed between 2010 and 2024.
121 women (50%) were identified only by initials or remained completely anonymous.
114 women were executed for murder, while 107 women were executed on drug-related charges.
Four women were executed for security-related charges such as moharebeh (waging war against God) and ifsad-fil-arz (corruption on earth). Among them was one Jewish woman and two Kurdish political prisoners.
9 of the executed women were child brides, three of whom were also child offenders, meaning they were under 18 at the time of their alleged crime.
70% of women executed for murder were accused of killing their husbands or partners, often in contexts of domestic violence.
Women from marginalised provinces like Sistan and Baluchistan were disproportionately represented among drug-related executions, highlighting the intersection of systemic discrimination, poverty, and judicial bias.

https://www.iranhr.net/en/articles/7263/

Whatabout? Howabout? When you find an example that reaches the scope of 80 years of apartheid, genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity against indigenous inhabitants and every single neighbor, maybe that will work.

Israel First going damn mad with their desperation. The zio playbook has been shredded and there is no replacement. The days of wagging the dog and justifying genocide and war crimes is over. The entire world despises Israel. America, the only friend in the world, is gone because gaslighting and brainwashing children during public education no longer works. When the EU finally sanctions Israel, how long is that that bought friendship with Greece and Cyprus going to last? Or the ones with GCC countries?

When Israel is finally ostracized by America and has to sit in the corner forever with sanctions until the democracy they claim is the democracy they realize, we'll see how oppressive all these other countries are without a POS constantly lobbing bombs and killing hundreds of thousands of people.

But it's safe to say that Israel has been directly responsible for the fate of over a dozen countries after 80 years of terrorism, destabilization efforts, and regime changes.

You are utterly comical. No mention from you about the past 80 years of IRANIAN terrorism against not only Israelis and other ME countries, but also against Americans. Hezbollah and Hamas are Iranian proxies and have targeted Israelis and Americans for decades - since 1979. The Iranian regime has waged a sustained campaign of violence against the United States, killing U.S. troops, targeting diplomats and civilians, and plotting attacks on American soil. "Death to America" is their mantra.

You can certainly spin your anti-Israel fantasies all you want, but you are on the wrong side of history. Speaking of which, learn some.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5765178-inside-irans-long-history-of-attacks-on-us-a-timeline/
https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2020/sep/16/timeline-iran-assassinations-and-plot
https://www.cfr.org/articles/irans-regional-armed-network

The USA has killed far more Iranian uniformed and civilians citizens, than the other way. There’s absolutely no comparison. The US-Iran conflict did not begin in 1979, but 1953. The US shot the first bullets , killing not only innocent Iranian civilians but the democratically elected president. After firing the first shots and successfully executing a coup, the UK and USA install their puppet, the shah of Iran.

In 1979, before the taking of American hostages, the Iranian people asked the USA for its help with the shah. We decided to back the dictator shah of Iran. The shah was just as bloody, repressive and murderous as the current Iranian regime you lament so much about. However the USA did not care, as long as the shah bent the knee to the USA and uk, and did as told.

From 1980-1988, the USA provided weapons, intelligence, and money to saddam Hassan to fight America’s proxy war against the Iranians. Millions of Iranians were killed with weapons and ammo made in the USA.

In 1988, the us navy shot down an Iranian civilian aircraft, all 266 plus passengers were killed.

June 2025, USA bomb Iran. Iran does not retaliate, but its citizens have been murdered by Israel and the USA.

February 2026, US and Israel bomb Iran and Iran decides to defend itself. Thousands have died in this latest bombing, and more continues to suffer. The USA is shocked that the smaller country decided to stand up to the bully, knowing that in the end it may still lose.

Yes, this is the documented history. Now I would also add that the current Iranian regime is horrible to its own people. But unless someone starts with 1953, they have little credibility on this topic.

DP so you would just forget about the Iranian Holocaust during WW2 committed by the US and Britain?

Let's pause and do a fact-based reality check here -

The thread shows two extremes: one portraying Iran as a long‑suffering innocent victim of constant Western aggression, and the other portraying Iran as the sole aggressor responsible for decades of terrorism. The reality is more complex.

It is true that the U.S. and U.K. overthrew Iran’s elected government in 1953, supported the Shah’s repressive regime, backed Iraq during the Iran–Iraq War, and were responsible for the 1988 downing of a civilian airliner. These events deeply shaped Iranian public opinion and the worldview of the post‑1979 regime. They are legitimate historical grievances and cannot be dismissed.

However, it is equally true that since 1979, Iran’s government has carried out or supported numerous violent attacks on civilians, U.S. troops, diplomats, and regional neighbors through proxies such as Hezbollah, Hamas, and various Iraqi militias. Iran has also engaged in assassinations abroad, hostage‑taking, and severe domestic repression, including executions and crackdowns on dissent.

Presenting Iran as a passive victim ignores decades of documented actions by the Iranian state that have harmed both its own citizens and people in other countries. Any fact‑based view recognizes both the early Western interventions that fueled Iranian resentment along with the Iranian regime’s own long, brutal record of violence, repression, and destabilizing behavior.

The dishonesty in these threads needs to be recalibrated.

When did Israel get involved? Your historical timeline suddenly jumps from US-UK straight to Iran-proxies. I don’t know the full story, but I know you can't talk about Hezbollah-Hamas without even mentioning Israel.