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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

It's highlight reels and emails to coaches not some old crank with a clip board searching the sandlots for the next star.

Nope, its grades, $$$, club, coach, league connections, and id camps. A social media presence is important but eventually it will need to be more than video clips.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

Not sure what you mean. Everything I've seen from scouts/clubs so far seems to indicate, it's about the player, not the grade.

I bet $100 the first thing every college coach wants to know about a player is their graduation year.

Well, duh, so they know when they can come to campus. Beyond that, though, I'm not so sure.

But you said grade in school doesnt matter?

Beyond that the reason you dont want to be an Aug birthday playing on a grade down team is because college coaches are looking for players that can play against older players and be an immediate asset. How would you guage a sophmore thats playing against freshman?

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

Not sure what you mean. Everything I've seen from scouts/clubs so far seems to indicate, it's about the player, not the grade.

I bet $100 the first thing every college coach wants to know about a player is their graduation year.

Well, duh, so they know when they can come to campus. Beyond that, though, I'm not so sure.

But you said grade in school doesnt matter?

Beyond that the reason you dont want to be an Aug birthday playing on a grade down team is because college coaches are looking for players that can play against older players and be an immediate asset. How would you guage a sophmore thats playing against freshman?

I never said grade doesn't matter. I said the player matters more.

To your question, the way it's working out, that sophomore won't be the only one. Also, there's not a huge difference in level between age groups, especially A teams. Take an elite club that is providing a ton of connections, it'll matter even less. Those clubs might be throwing those coaches a bone, though, if that rumor about GY showcases is true (or that person is just trying to troll you).

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

Not sure what you mean. Everything I've seen from scouts/clubs so far seems to indicate, it's about the player, not the grade.

I bet $100 the first thing every college coach wants to know about a player is their graduation year.

Well, duh, so they know when they can come to campus. Beyond that, though, I'm not so sure.

But you said grade in school doesnt matter?

Beyond that the reason you dont want to be an Aug birthday playing on a grade down team is because college coaches are looking for players that can play against older players and be an immediate asset. How would you guage a sophmore thats playing against freshman?

I never said grade doesn't matter. I said the player matters more.

To your question, the way it's working out, that sophomore won't be the only one. Also, there's not a huge difference in level between age groups, especially A teams. Take an elite club that is providing a ton of connections, it'll matter even less. Those clubs might be throwing those coaches a bone, though, if that rumor about GY showcases is true (or that person is just trying to troll you).

If you have a rule or recommendation that Aug playera play with their grade you dont need to do GY showcases. Every game played would be the equivalent of a GY showcase but without the holdbacks.

BTW GY opens 10x more negative doors that you arent expecting. Wait until coaches use Showcase roster or playing time as recruitment tools. Just like they use league Talent ID invites today.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

Not sure what you mean. Everything I've seen from scouts/clubs so far seems to indicate, it's about the player, not the grade.

I bet $100 the first thing every college coach wants to know about a player is their graduation year.

Well, duh, so they know when they can come to campus. Beyond that, though, I'm not so sure.

But you said grade in school doesnt matter?

Beyond that the reason you dont want to be an Aug birthday playing on a grade down team is because college coaches are looking for players that can play against older players and be an immediate asset. How would you guage a sophmore thats playing against freshman?

I never said grade doesn't matter. I said the player matters more.

To your question, the way it's working out, that sophomore won't be the only one. Also, there's not a huge difference in level between age groups, especially A teams. Take an elite club that is providing a ton of connections, it'll matter even less. Those clubs might be throwing those coaches a bone, though, if that rumor about GY showcases is true (or that person is just trying to troll you).

If you have a rule or recommendation that Aug playera play with their grade you dont need to do GY showcases. Every game played would be the equivalent of a GY showcase but without the holdbacks.

BTW GY opens 10x more negative doors that you arent expecting. Wait until coaches use Showcase roster or playing time as recruitment tools. Just like they use league Talent ID invites today.

Except an August rule DOESN'T fix it because you have kids born in June, July, Sept, Oct and even November also misaligned.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

Not sure what you mean. Everything I've seen from scouts/clubs so far seems to indicate, it's about the player, not the grade.

I bet $100 the first thing every college coach wants to know about a player is their graduation year.

Well, duh, so they know when they can come to campus. Beyond that, though, I'm not so sure.

But you said grade in school doesnt matter?

Beyond that the reason you dont want to be an Aug birthday playing on a grade down team is because college coaches are looking for players that can play against older players and be an immediate asset. How would you guage a sophmore thats playing against freshman?

I never said grade doesn't matter. I said the player matters more.

To your question, the way it's working out, that sophomore won't be the only one. Also, there's not a huge difference in level between age groups, especially A teams. Take an elite club that is providing a ton of connections, it'll matter even less. Those clubs might be throwing those coaches a bone, though, if that rumor about GY showcases is true (or that person is just trying to troll you).

If you have a rule or recommendation that Aug playera play with their grade you dont need to do GY showcases. Every game played would be the equivalent of a GY showcase but without the holdbacks.

BTW GY opens 10x more negative doors that you arent expecting. Wait until coaches use Showcase roster or playing time as recruitment tools. Just like they use league Talent ID invites today.

Except an August rule DOESN'T fix it because you have kids born in June, July, Sept, Oct and even November also misaligned.

Fine they play up to.

The alternative is 1-2 years older players play down in GY showcases.

Do you see its two sides of the same coin? Either you incovience a small number f players having them play with their grade or you gift a group of players that are playing down intentionally. Which option do you think is more fair or everyeone involved? Hint, its having Aug and younger players play with their grade.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

Not sure what you mean. Everything I've seen from scouts/clubs so far seems to indicate, it's about the player, not the grade.

I bet $100 the first thing every college coach wants to know about a player is their graduation year.

Well, duh, so they know when they can come to campus. Beyond that, though, I'm not so sure.

But you said grade in school doesnt matter?

Beyond that the reason you dont want to be an Aug birthday playing on a grade down team is because college coaches are looking for players that can play against older players and be an immediate asset. How would you guage a sophmore thats playing against freshman?

I never said grade doesn't matter. I said the player matters more.

To your question, the way it's working out, that sophomore won't be the only one. Also, there's not a huge difference in level between age groups, especially A teams. Take an elite club that is providing a ton of connections, it'll matter even less. Those clubs might be throwing those coaches a bone, though, if that rumor about GY showcases is true (or that person is just trying to troll you).

If you have a rule or recommendation that Aug playera play with their grade you dont need to do GY showcases. Every game played would be the equivalent of a GY showcase but without the holdbacks.

BTW GY opens 10x more negative doors that you arent expecting. Wait until coaches use Showcase roster or playing time as recruitment tools. Just like they use league Talent ID invites today.

Except an August rule DOESN'T fix it because you have kids born in June, July, Sept, Oct and even November also misaligned.

Fine they play up to.

The alternative is 1-2 years older players play down in GY showcases.

Do you see its two sides of the same coin? Either you incovience a small number f players having them play with their grade or you gift a group of players that are playing down intentionally. Which option do you think is more fair or everyeone involved? Hint, its having Aug and younger players play with their grade.

Why should age groups be 13, 14, even 15 months wide? Sounds a lot like your favoring the oldest in those age groups, who happen to be on grade. Not very fair honestly.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

Not sure what you mean. Everything I've seen from scouts/clubs so far seems to indicate, it's about the player, not the grade.

I bet $100 the first thing every college coach wants to know about a player is their graduation year.

Well, duh, so they know when they can come to campus. Beyond that, though, I'm not so sure.

But you said grade in school doesnt matter?

Beyond that the reason you dont want to be an Aug birthday playing on a grade down team is because college coaches are looking for players that can play against older players and be an immediate asset. How would you guage a sophmore thats playing against freshman?

I never said grade doesn't matter. I said the player matters more.

To your question, the way it's working out, that sophomore won't be the only one. Also, there's not a huge difference in level between age groups, especially A teams. Take an elite club that is providing a ton of connections, it'll matter even less. Those clubs might be throwing those coaches a bone, though, if that rumor about GY showcases is true (or that person is just trying to troll you).

If you have a rule or recommendation that Aug playera play with their grade you dont need to do GY showcases. Every game played would be the equivalent of a GY showcase but without the holdbacks.

BTW GY opens 10x more negative doors that you arent expecting. Wait until coaches use Showcase roster or playing time as recruitment tools. Just like they use league Talent ID invites today.

Except an August rule DOESN'T fix it because you have kids born in June, July, Sept, Oct and even November also misaligned.

Fine they play up to.

The alternative is 1-2 years older players play down in GY showcases.

Do you see its two sides of the same coin? Either you incovience a small number f players having them play with their grade or you gift a group of players that are playing down intentionally. Which option do you think is more fair or everyeone involved? Hint, its having Aug and younger players play with their grade.

But no one is playing down. That's your hang-up. Youth soccer plays on age.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

Not sure what you mean. Everything I've seen from scouts/clubs so far seems to indicate, it's about the player, not the grade.

I bet $100 the first thing every college coach wants to know about a player is their graduation year.

Well, duh, so they know when they can come to campus. Beyond that, though, I'm not so sure.

But you said grade in school doesnt matter?

Beyond that the reason you dont want to be an Aug birthday playing on a grade down team is because college coaches are looking for players that can play against older players and be an immediate asset. How would you guage a sophmore thats playing against freshman?

I never said grade doesn't matter. I said the player matters more.

To your question, the way it's working out, that sophomore won't be the only one. Also, there's not a huge difference in level between age groups, especially A teams. Take an elite club that is providing a ton of connections, it'll matter even less. Those clubs might be throwing those coaches a bone, though, if that rumor about GY showcases is true (or that person is just trying to troll you).

If you have a rule or recommendation that Aug playera play with their grade you dont need to do GY showcases. Every game played would be the equivalent of a GY showcase but without the holdbacks.

BTW GY opens 10x more negative doors that you arent expecting. Wait until coaches use Showcase roster or playing time as recruitment tools. Just like they use league Talent ID invites today.

Except an August rule DOESN'T fix it because you have kids born in June, July, Sept, Oct and even November also misaligned.

Fine they play up to.

The alternative is 1-2 years older players play down in GY showcases.

Do you see its two sides of the same coin? Either you incovience a small number f players having them play with their grade or you gift a group of players that are playing down intentionally. Which option do you think is more fair or everyeone involved? Hint, its having Aug and younger players play with their grade.

Why should age groups be 13, 14, even 15 months wide? Sounds a lot like your favoring the oldest in those age groups, who happen to be on grade. Not very fair honestly.

Which option is more or less fair? Having young players play up with their grade or allowing older players to play down in GY showcases?

You get a 13, 14, 15 eligibility window either way.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

Not sure what you mean. Everything I've seen from scouts/clubs so far seems to indicate, it's about the player, not the grade.

I bet $100 the first thing every college coach wants to know about a player is their graduation year.

Well, duh, so they know when they can come to campus. Beyond that, though, I'm not so sure.

But you said grade in school doesnt matter?

Beyond that the reason you dont want to be an Aug birthday playing on a grade down team is because college coaches are looking for players that can play against older players and be an immediate asset. How would you guage a sophmore thats playing against freshman?

I never said grade doesn't matter. I said the player matters more.

To your question, the way it's working out, that sophomore won't be the only one. Also, there's not a huge difference in level between age groups, especially A teams. Take an elite club that is providing a ton of connections, it'll matter even less. Those clubs might be throwing those coaches a bone, though, if that rumor about GY showcases is true (or that person is just trying to troll you).

If you have a rule or recommendation that Aug playera play with their grade you dont need to do GY showcases. Every game played would be the equivalent of a GY showcase but without the holdbacks.

BTW GY opens 10x more negative doors that you arent expecting. Wait until coaches use Showcase roster or playing time as recruitment tools. Just like they use league Talent ID invites today.

Except an August rule DOESN'T fix it because you have kids born in June, July, Sept, Oct and even November also misaligned.

Fine they play up to.

The alternative is 1-2 years older players play down in GY showcases.

Do you see its two sides of the same coin? Either you incovience a small number f players having them play with their grade or you gift a group of players that are playing down intentionally. Which option do you think is more fair or everyeone involved? Hint, its having Aug and younger players play with their grade.

Why should age groups be 13, 14, even 15 months wide? Sounds a lot like your favoring the oldest in those age groups, who happen to be on grade. Not very fair honestly.

Which option is more or less fair? Having young players play up with their grade or allowing older players to play down in GY showcases?

You get a 13, 14, 15 eligibility window either way.

Except that's just a rumor, likely by people so fed up with you, they're pushing your buttons.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

Not sure what you mean. Everything I've seen from scouts/clubs so far seems to indicate, it's about the player, not the grade.

I bet $100 the first thing every college coach wants to know about a player is their graduation year.

Well, duh, so they know when they can come to campus. Beyond that, though, I'm not so sure.

But you said grade in school doesnt matter?

Beyond that the reason you dont want to be an Aug birthday playing on a grade down team is because college coaches are looking for players that can play against older players and be an immediate asset. How would you guage a sophmore thats playing against freshman?

They are professionals, do it every year and did it before switch to BY. They know how to look at transfers, Internationals, kids from bad teams, lesser leagues, etc. and still get the players. Everything gonna be alright.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

Not sure what you mean. Everything I've seen from scouts/clubs so far seems to indicate, it's about the player, not the grade.

I bet $100 the first thing every college coach wants to know about a player is their graduation year.

Well, duh, so they know when they can come to campus. Beyond that, though, I'm not so sure.

But you said grade in school doesnt matter?

Beyond that the reason you dont want to be an Aug birthday playing on a grade down team is because college coaches are looking for players that can play against older players and be an immediate asset. How would you guage a sophmore thats playing against freshman?

I never said grade doesn't matter. I said the player matters more.

To your question, the way it's working out, that sophomore won't be the only one. Also, there's not a huge difference in level between age groups, especially A teams. Take an elite club that is providing a ton of connections, it'll matter even less. Those clubs might be throwing those coaches a bone, though, if that rumor about GY showcases is true (or that person is just trying to troll you).

If you have a rule or recommendation that Aug playera play with their grade you dont need to do GY showcases. Every game played would be the equivalent of a GY showcase but without the holdbacks.

BTW GY opens 10x more negative doors that you arent expecting. Wait until coaches use Showcase roster or playing time as recruitment tools. Just like they use league Talent ID invites today.

If wish again. They set guidelines to play on age regardless of grade.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

Not sure what you mean. Everything I've seen from scouts/clubs so far seems to indicate, it's about the player, not the grade.

I bet $100 the first thing every college coach wants to know about a player is their graduation year.

Well, duh, so they know when they can come to campus. Beyond that, though, I'm not so sure.

But you said grade in school doesnt matter?

Beyond that the reason you dont want to be an Aug birthday playing on a grade down team is because college coaches are looking for players that can play against older players and be an immediate asset. How would you guage a sophmore thats playing against freshman?

I never said grade doesn't matter. I said the player matters more.

To your question, the way it's working out, that sophomore won't be the only one. Also, there's not a huge difference in level between age groups, especially A teams. Take an elite club that is providing a ton of connections, it'll matter even less. Those clubs might be throwing those coaches a bone, though, if that rumor about GY showcases is true (or that person is just trying to troll you).

If you have a rule or recommendation that Aug playera play with their grade you dont need to do GY showcases. Every game played would be the equivalent of a GY showcase but without the holdbacks.

BTW GY opens 10x more negative doors that you arent expecting. Wait until coaches use Showcase roster or playing time as recruitment tools. Just like they use league Talent ID invites today.

Except an August rule DOESN'T fix it because you have kids born in June, July, Sept, Oct and even November also misaligned.

Fine they play up to.

The alternative is 1-2 years older players play down in GY showcases.

Do you see its two sides of the same coin? Either you incovience a small number f players having them play with their grade or you gift a group of players that are playing down intentionally. Which option do you think is more fair or everyeone involved? Hint, its having Aug and younger players play with their grade.

Just using birthdates and no grades is the most fair.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

Not sure what you mean. Everything I've seen from scouts/clubs so far seems to indicate, it's about the player, not the grade.

I bet $100 the first thing every college coach wants to know about a player is their graduation year.

Well, duh, so they know when they can come to campus. Beyond that, though, I'm not so sure.

But you said grade in school doesnt matter?

Beyond that the reason you dont want to be an Aug birthday playing on a grade down team is because college coaches are looking for players that can play against older players and be an immediate asset. How would you guage a sophmore thats playing against freshman?

I never said grade doesn't matter. I said the player matters more.

To your question, the way it's working out, that sophomore won't be the only one. Also, there's not a huge difference in level between age groups, especially A teams. Take an elite club that is providing a ton of connections, it'll matter even less. Those clubs might be throwing those coaches a bone, though, if that rumor about GY showcases is true (or that person is just trying to troll you).

If you have a rule or recommendation that Aug playera play with their grade you dont need to do GY showcases. Every game played would be the equivalent of a GY showcase but without the holdbacks.

BTW GY opens 10x more negative doors that you arent expecting. Wait until coaches use Showcase roster or playing time as recruitment tools. Just like they use league Talent ID invites today.

Except an August rule DOESN'T fix it because you have kids born in June, July, Sept, Oct and even November also misaligned.

Fine they play up to.

The alternative is 1-2 years older players play down in GY showcases.

Do you see its two sides of the same coin? Either you incovience a small number f players having them play with their grade or you gift a group of players that are playing down intentionally. Which option do you think is more fair or everyeone involved? Hint, its having Aug and younger players play with their grade.

Why should age groups be 13, 14, even 15 months wide? Sounds a lot like your favoring the oldest in those age groups, who happen to be on grade. Not very fair honestly.

Which option is more or less fair? Having young players play up with their grade or allowing older players to play down in GY showcases?

You get a 13, 14, 15 eligibility window either way.

Except that's just a rumor, likely by people so fed up with you, they're pushing your buttons.

Well I heard that leagues were going to add a recommendation that Aug birthdays (and younger) play on the team that's their grade in school.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

Not sure what you mean. Everything I've seen from scouts/clubs so far seems to indicate, it's about the player, not the grade.

I bet $100 the first thing every college coach wants to know about a player is their graduation year.

Well, duh, so they know when they can come to campus. Beyond that, though, I'm not so sure.

But you said grade in school doesnt matter?

Beyond that the reason you dont want to be an Aug birthday playing on a grade down team is because college coaches are looking for players that can play against older players and be an immediate asset. How would you guage a sophmore thats playing against freshman?

I never said grade doesn't matter. I said the player matters more.

To your question, the way it's working out, that sophomore won't be the only one. Also, there's not a huge difference in level between age groups, especially A teams. Take an elite club that is providing a ton of connections, it'll matter even less. Those clubs might be throwing those coaches a bone, though, if that rumor about GY showcases is true (or that person is just trying to troll you).

If you have a rule or recommendation that Aug playera play with their grade you dont need to do GY showcases. Every game played would be the equivalent of a GY showcase but without the holdbacks.

BTW GY opens 10x more negative doors that you arent expecting. Wait until coaches use Showcase roster or playing time as recruitment tools. Just like they use league Talent ID invites today.

Except an August rule DOESN'T fix it because you have kids born in June, July, Sept, Oct and even November also misaligned.

Fine they play up to.

The alternative is 1-2 years older players play down in GY showcases.

Do you see its two sides of the same coin? Either you incovience a small number f players having them play with their grade or you gift a group of players that are playing down intentionally. Which option do you think is more fair or everyeone involved? Hint, its having Aug and younger players play with their grade.

Why should age groups be 13, 14, even 15 months wide? Sounds a lot like your favoring the oldest in those age groups, who happen to be on grade. Not very fair honestly.

Yup, this system would reward holdbacks and punish kids going to school on time or early. That's mean spirited.