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Anonymous wrote:Just an FYI Aug-Dec birthdays will need to play up in MLSN2, ECNL, + other SY leagues if they want to be considered for MLSN1 BY. If they dont Aug-Dec SY players will be playing level down if they are ever planning to play in MLSN1 BY.

Also, if Aug-Dec SY players dont play up when they switch over to MLSN1 BY they'll be playing against biobanders 3 levels above them.

Hahahaha, I never thought about that.

Young Aug players will have to play with their grade not down with a younger team if they want to get recruited and play for a BY MLSN HG team.

Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Give it up, MLSN1 coaches will know a trojan horse when they see it.

Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Give it up, MLSN1 coaches will know a trojan horse when they see it.

Then Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Perfect 👌 and get ignored by MLSN1 coaches. People know that you're looking to skirt the rules.

If kids want MLSN1, they will go to a few practices with team as a tryout. Doesn't matter where they are coming from.

Besides, this has nothing to do with you just hating that August girl because she is better than your girl because it is boys soccer.

Keep trying.

The Aug players that want to get recruited will play with their grade. There might be slightly different reasons for doing it but overall the best players that want to get recruited and play on the best teams will play with their grade.

Also the best teams will filter out the Aug birthdays playing down. Its just a waste of time to have oddballs that arent like the rest of the team. As players get older being the biggest and oldest matters less and less. Might as well play with your grade so you're not an oddball and can't get recruited to play in college.

Can't wait for the top team profiles to all show the same graduating year. Unfortunately you'll find and cling onto a couple of oddball examples.which people will track for a couple of years only to find out thet they either started playing with their grade or got into a lower level college that doesnt matter.

instead of going through all the nonsense just put your Aug birthday kid on the correct grade team from a young age and let them develop correctly.

Dude, playing with grade means not playing MLSN1 or playing up for 90% of kids. Read what you write before you invent a reason to slam August players following the rules and making smart decisions that you can't fathom.

In BY the trapped players are playing up. These are 100% the kind of players college coaches want to recruit. They know they can play with older players and instantly contribute.

Not what the data says.

If by data you mean months of the year you are stupidly wrong.

In BY you cant play down and Aug-Dec birthdays play up a grade.

MLSN1 has Biobanding you can play down and they don't use grades obviously

Ok I see you just moved the goalposts. Here is thought we were discussing BY.

Open your eyes. The eco-system and how it works is complicated and represent efforts to provide players multiple pathways to success (which provides hope for players and cash for clubs).

My eyes are 100% open.

I'm pointing out that in multiple ways (College MLSN HG) if Aug birthdays want to play on top teams they need to play with their grade.

Yeah, but you're missing all the ways kids advance regardless because you're too obsessed on this this point.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

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Anonymous wrote:Just an FYI Aug-Dec birthdays will need to play up in MLSN2, ECNL, + other SY leagues if they want to be considered for MLSN1 BY. If they dont Aug-Dec SY players will be playing level down if they are ever planning to play in MLSN1 BY.

Also, if Aug-Dec SY players dont play up when they switch over to MLSN1 BY they'll be playing against biobanders 3 levels above them.

Hahahaha, I never thought about that.

Young Aug players will have to play with their grade not down with a younger team if they want to get recruited and play for a BY MLSN HG team.

Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Give it up, MLSN1 coaches will know a trojan horse when they see it.

Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Give it up, MLSN1 coaches will know a trojan horse when they see it.

Then Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Perfect 👌 and get ignored by MLSN1 coaches. People know that you're looking to skirt the rules.

If kids want MLSN1, they will go to a few practices with team as a tryout. Doesn't matter where they are coming from.

Besides, this has nothing to do with you just hating that August girl because she is better than your girl because it is boys soccer.

Keep trying.

The Aug players that want to get recruited will play with their grade. There might be slightly different reasons for doing it but overall the best players that want to get recruited and play on the best teams will play with their grade.

Also the best teams will filter out the Aug birthdays playing down. Its just a waste of time to have oddballs that arent like the rest of the team. As players get older being the biggest and oldest matters less and less. Might as well play with your grade so you're not an oddball and can't get recruited to play in college.

Can't wait for the top team profiles to all show the same graduating year. Unfortunately you'll find and cling onto a couple of oddball examples.which people will track for a couple of years only to find out thet they either started playing with their grade or got into a lower level college that doesnt matter.

instead of going through all the nonsense just put your Aug birthday kid on the correct grade team from a young age and let them develop correctly.

Dude, playing with grade means not playing MLSN1 or playing up for 90% of kids. Read what you write before you invent a reason to slam August players following the rules and making smart decisions that you can't fathom.

In BY the trapped players are playing up. These are 100% the kind of players college coaches want to recruit. They know they can play with older players and instantly contribute.

Not what the data says.

If by data you mean months of the year you are stupidly wrong.

In BY you cant play down and Aug-Dec birthdays play up a grade.

MLSN1 has Biobanding you can play down and they don't use grades obviously

Ok I see you just moved the goalposts. Here is thought we were discussing BY.

Open your eyes. The eco-system and how it works is complicated and represent efforts to provide players multiple pathways to success (which provides hope for players and cash for clubs).

My eyes are 100% open.

I'm pointing out that in multiple ways (College MLSN HG) if Aug birthdays want to play on top teams they need to play with their grade.

Disagree.

You tried to mislead leagues and teams to go GY with a campaign of made up garbage to slam August births and force them to play up that obviously went nowhere.

Now you are trying to run a misinformation campaign and shame August births to voluntarily play up a year all for your Sept born DD to get more playing time. It won't work.

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Anonymous wrote:Just an FYI Aug-Dec birthdays will need to play up in MLSN2, ECNL, + other SY leagues if they want to be considered for MLSN1 BY. If they dont Aug-Dec SY players will be playing level down if they are ever planning to play in MLSN1 BY.

Also, if Aug-Dec SY players dont play up when they switch over to MLSN1 BY they'll be playing against biobanders 3 levels above them.

Hahahaha, I never thought about that.

Young Aug players will have to play with their grade not down with a younger team if they want to get recruited and play for a BY MLSN HG team.

Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Give it up, MLSN1 coaches will know a trojan horse when they see it.

Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Give it up, MLSN1 coaches will know a trojan horse when they see it.

Then Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Perfect 👌 and get ignored by MLSN1 coaches. People know that you're looking to skirt the rules.

If kids want MLSN1, they will go to a few practices with team as a tryout. Doesn't matter where they are coming from.

Besides, this has nothing to do with you just hating that August girl because she is better than your girl because it is boys soccer.

Keep trying.

The Aug players that want to get recruited will play with their grade. There might be slightly different reasons for doing it but overall the best players that want to get recruited and play on the best teams will play with their grade.

Also the best teams will filter out the Aug birthdays playing down. Its just a waste of time to have oddballs that arent like the rest of the team. As players get older being the biggest and oldest matters less and less. Might as well play with your grade so you're not an oddball and can't get recruited to play in college.

Can't wait for the top team profiles to all show the same graduating year. Unfortunately you'll find and cling onto a couple of oddball examples.which people will track for a couple of years only to find out thet they either started playing with their grade or got into a lower level college that doesnt matter.

instead of going through all the nonsense just put your Aug birthday kid on the correct grade team from a young age and let them develop correctly.

Dude, playing with grade means not playing MLSN1 or playing up for 90% of kids. Read what you write before you invent a reason to slam August players following the rules and making smart decisions that you can't fathom.

In BY the trapped players are playing up. These are 100% the kind of players college coaches want to recruit. They know they can play with older players and instantly contribute.

Not what the data says.

If by data you mean months of the year you are stupidly wrong.

In BY you cant play down and Aug-Dec birthdays play up a grade.

MLSN1 has Biobanding you can play down and they don't use grades obviously

Ok I see you just moved the goalposts. Here is thought we were discussing BY.

Open your eyes. The eco-system and how it works is complicated and represent efforts to provide players multiple pathways to success (which provides hope for players and cash for clubs).

My eyes are 100% open.

I'm pointing out that in multiple ways (College MLSN HG) if Aug birthdays want to play on top teams they need to play with their grade.

Yeah, but you're missing all the ways kids advance regardless because you're too obsessed on this this point.

Im not obsessed. Just pointing it out because it potentially has major repercussions. If leagues were to draft a rule that Aug players play with their grade what you end up with is all players during a game are the same grade in school but there are no holdbacks. This is exactly what recruiters want and what parents and clubs want.

The issue with changing from BY to SY is it opens the door to GY which is like unlimited biobanding. Players just say their grade in school and thats the level you play at. Unfortunately patents will work the system holding their kid back as much as they can. In the end to be competitive players need to be 16 year old freshman/ 20 year old seniors.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

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Anonymous wrote:Just an FYI Aug-Dec birthdays will need to play up in MLSN2, ECNL, + other SY leagues if they want to be considered for MLSN1 BY. If they dont Aug-Dec SY players will be playing level down if they are ever planning to play in MLSN1 BY.

Also, if Aug-Dec SY players dont play up when they switch over to MLSN1 BY they'll be playing against biobanders 3 levels above them.

Hahahaha, I never thought about that.

Young Aug players will have to play with their grade not down with a younger team if they want to get recruited and play for a BY MLSN HG team.

Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Give it up, MLSN1 coaches will know a trojan horse when they see it.

Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Give it up, MLSN1 coaches will know a trojan horse when they see it.

Then Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Perfect 👌 and get ignored by MLSN1 coaches. People know that you're looking to skirt the rules.

If kids want MLSN1, they will go to a few practices with team as a tryout. Doesn't matter where they are coming from.

Besides, this has nothing to do with you just hating that August girl because she is better than your girl because it is boys soccer.

Keep trying.

The Aug players that want to get recruited will play with their grade. There might be slightly different reasons for doing it but overall the best players that want to get recruited and play on the best teams will play with their grade.

Also the best teams will filter out the Aug birthdays playing down. Its just a waste of time to have oddballs that arent like the rest of the team. As players get older being the biggest and oldest matters less and less. Might as well play with your grade so you're not an oddball and can't get recruited to play in college.

Can't wait for the top team profiles to all show the same graduating year. Unfortunately you'll find and cling onto a couple of oddball examples.which people will track for a couple of years only to find out thet they either started playing with their grade or got into a lower level college that doesnt matter.

instead of going through all the nonsense just put your Aug birthday kid on the correct grade team from a young age and let them develop correctly.

Dude, playing with grade means not playing MLSN1 or playing up for 90% of kids. Read what you write before you invent a reason to slam August players following the rules and making smart decisions that you can't fathom.

In BY the trapped players are playing up. These are 100% the kind of players college coaches want to recruit. They know they can play with older players and instantly contribute.

Not what the data says.

If by data you mean months of the year you are stupidly wrong.

In BY you cant play down and Aug-Dec birthdays play up a grade.

MLSN1 has Biobanding you can play down and they don't use grades obviously

Ok I see you just moved the goalposts. Here is thought we were discussing BY.

Open your eyes. The eco-system and how it works is complicated and represent efforts to provide players multiple pathways to success (which provides hope for players and cash for clubs).

My eyes are 100% open.

I'm pointing out that in multiple ways (College MLSN HG) if Aug birthdays want to play on top teams they need to play with their grade.

Disagree.

You tried to mislead leagues and teams to go GY with a campaign of made up garbage to slam August births and force them to play up that obviously went nowhere.

Now you are trying to run a misinformation campaign and shame August births to voluntarily play up a year all for your Sept born DD to get more playing time. It won't work.

Why do the people with the worst positions possible always label other people's positions as misinformation?

Theres no campaign just experience and reality.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

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Anonymous wrote:Just an FYI Aug-Dec birthdays will need to play up in MLSN2, ECNL, + other SY leagues if they want to be considered for MLSN1 BY. If they dont Aug-Dec SY players will be playing level down if they are ever planning to play in MLSN1 BY.

Also, if Aug-Dec SY players dont play up when they switch over to MLSN1 BY they'll be playing against biobanders 3 levels above them.

Hahahaha, I never thought about that.

Young Aug players will have to play with their grade not down with a younger team if they want to get recruited and play for a BY MLSN HG team.

Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Give it up, MLSN1 coaches will know a trojan horse when they see it.

Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Give it up, MLSN1 coaches will know a trojan horse when they see it.

Then Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Perfect 👌 and get ignored by MLSN1 coaches. People know that you're looking to skirt the rules.

If kids want MLSN1, they will go to a few practices with team as a tryout. Doesn't matter where they are coming from.

Besides, this has nothing to do with you just hating that August girl because she is better than your girl because it is boys soccer.

Keep trying.

The Aug players that want to get recruited will play with their grade. There might be slightly different reasons for doing it but overall the best players that want to get recruited and play on the best teams will play with their grade.

Also the best teams will filter out the Aug birthdays playing down. Its just a waste of time to have oddballs that arent like the rest of the team. As players get older being the biggest and oldest matters less and less. Might as well play with your grade so you're not an oddball and can't get recruited to play in college.

Can't wait for the top team profiles to all show the same graduating year. Unfortunately you'll find and cling onto a couple of oddball examples.which people will track for a couple of years only to find out thet they either started playing with their grade or got into a lower level college that doesnt matter.

instead of going through all the nonsense just put your Aug birthday kid on the correct grade team from a young age and let them develop correctly.

Dude, playing with grade means not playing MLSN1 or playing up for 90% of kids. Read what you write before you invent a reason to slam August players following the rules and making smart decisions that you can't fathom.

In BY the trapped players are playing up. These are 100% the kind of players college coaches want to recruit. They know they can play with older players and instantly contribute.

Not what the data says.

If by data you mean months of the year you are stupidly wrong.

In BY you cant play down and Aug-Dec birthdays play up a grade.

MLSN1 has Biobanding you can play down and they don't use grades obviously

Ok I see you just moved the goalposts. Here is thought we were discussing BY.

Open your eyes. The eco-system and how it works is complicated and represent efforts to provide players multiple pathways to success (which provides hope for players and cash for clubs).

My eyes are 100% open.

I'm pointing out that in multiple ways (College MLSN HG) if Aug birthdays want to play on top teams they need to play with their grade.

Yeah, but you're missing all the ways kids advance regardless because you're too obsessed on this this point.

Im not obsessed. Just pointing it out because it potentially has major repercussions. If leagues were to draft a rule that Aug players play with their grade what you end up with is all players during a game are the same grade in school but there are no holdbacks. This is exactly what recruiters want and what parents and clubs want.

The issue with changing from BY to SY is it opens the door to GY which is like unlimited biobanding. Players just say their grade in school and thats the level you play at. Unfortunately patents will work the system holding their kid back as much as they can. In the end to be competitive players need to be 16 year old freshman/ 20 year old seniors.

They use age to keep GY away. Ironically, your rule only opens the door more by focusing on grade, because then other parents will clamor for their kid to play by grade, too. You make the slippery slope more slick with your rule.

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Anonymous wrote:Just an FYI Aug-Dec birthdays will need to play up in MLSN2, ECNL, + other SY leagues if they want to be considered for MLSN1 BY. If they dont Aug-Dec SY players will be playing level down if they are ever planning to play in MLSN1 BY.

Also, if Aug-Dec SY players dont play up when they switch over to MLSN1 BY they'll be playing against biobanders 3 levels above them.

Hahahaha, I never thought about that.

Young Aug players will have to play with their grade not down with a younger team if they want to get recruited and play for a BY MLSN HG team.

Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Give it up, MLSN1 coaches will know a trojan horse when they see it.

Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Give it up, MLSN1 coaches will know a trojan horse when they see it.

Then Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Perfect 👌 and get ignored by MLSN1 coaches. People know that you're looking to skirt the rules.

If kids want MLSN1, they will go to a few practices with team as a tryout. Doesn't matter where they are coming from.

Besides, this has nothing to do with you just hating that August girl because she is better than your girl because it is boys soccer.

Keep trying.

The Aug players that want to get recruited will play with their grade. There might be slightly different reasons for doing it but overall the best players that want to get recruited and play on the best teams will play with their grade.

Also the best teams will filter out the Aug birthdays playing down. Its just a waste of time to have oddballs that arent like the rest of the team. As players get older being the biggest and oldest matters less and less. Might as well play with your grade so you're not an oddball and can't get recruited to play in college.

Can't wait for the top team profiles to all show the same graduating year. Unfortunately you'll find and cling onto a couple of oddball examples.which people will track for a couple of years only to find out thet they either started playing with their grade or got into a lower level college that doesnt matter.

instead of going through all the nonsense just put your Aug birthday kid on the correct grade team from a young age and let them develop correctly.

Dude, playing with grade means not playing MLSN1 or playing up for 90% of kids. Read what you write before you invent a reason to slam August players following the rules and making smart decisions that you can't fathom.

In BY the trapped players are playing up. These are 100% the kind of players college coaches want to recruit. They know they can play with older players and instantly contribute.

Not what the data says.

If by data you mean months of the year you are stupidly wrong.

In BY you cant play down and Aug-Dec birthdays play up a grade.

MLSN1 has Biobanding you can play down and they don't use grades obviously

Ok I see you just moved the goalposts. Here is thought we were discussing BY.

Open your eyes. The eco-system and how it works is complicated and represent efforts to provide players multiple pathways to success (which provides hope for players and cash for clubs).

My eyes are 100% open.

I'm pointing out that in multiple ways (College MLSN HG) if Aug birthdays want to play on top teams they need to play with their grade.

Yeah, but you're missing all the ways kids advance regardless because you're too obsessed on this this point.

Im not obsessed. Just pointing it out because it potentially has major repercussions. If leagues were to draft a rule that Aug players play with their grade what you end up with is all players during a game are the same grade in school but there are no holdbacks. This is exactly what recruiters want and what parents and clubs want.

The issue with changing from BY to SY is it opens the door to GY which is like unlimited biobanding. Players just say their grade in school and thats the level you play at. Unfortunately patents will work the system holding their kid back as much as they can. In the end to be competitive players need to be 16 year old freshman/ 20 year old seniors.

More cut and paste Russian propaganda from the fake good Samaritan. Nobody wants grade year but you. The market has spoken on birthdays and skill with little to no regard on grade.

Your if, could, would, should is meaningless when an actual reality exists that runs counter to your individualized fantasy utopia.

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Anonymous wrote:Just an FYI Aug-Dec birthdays will need to play up in MLSN2, ECNL, + other SY leagues if they want to be considered for MLSN1 BY. If they dont Aug-Dec SY players will be playing level down if they are ever planning to play in MLSN1 BY.

Also, if Aug-Dec SY players dont play up when they switch over to MLSN1 BY they'll be playing against biobanders 3 levels above them.

Hahahaha, I never thought about that.

Young Aug players will have to play with their grade not down with a younger team if they want to get recruited and play for a BY MLSN HG team.

Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Give it up, MLSN1 coaches will know a trojan horse when they see it.

Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Give it up, MLSN1 coaches will know a trojan horse when they see it.

Then Aug-Dec might as well stay playing on age and in Sy because of RAE rather than sitting on an MLSN1 BY bench as the youngest on the team.

Perfect 👌 and get ignored by MLSN1 coaches. People know that you're looking to skirt the rules.

If kids want MLSN1, they will go to a few practices with team as a tryout. Doesn't matter where they are coming from.

Besides, this has nothing to do with you just hating that August girl because she is better than your girl because it is boys soccer.

Keep trying.

The Aug players that want to get recruited will play with their grade. There might be slightly different reasons for doing it but overall the best players that want to get recruited and play on the best teams will play with their grade.

Also the best teams will filter out the Aug birthdays playing down. Its just a waste of time to have oddballs that arent like the rest of the team. As players get older being the biggest and oldest matters less and less. Might as well play with your grade so you're not an oddball and can't get recruited to play in college.

Can't wait for the top team profiles to all show the same graduating year. Unfortunately you'll find and cling onto a couple of oddball examples.which people will track for a couple of years only to find out thet they either started playing with their grade or got into a lower level college that doesnt matter.

instead of going through all the nonsense just put your Aug birthday kid on the correct grade team from a young age and let them develop correctly.

Dude, playing with grade means not playing MLSN1 or playing up for 90% of kids. Read what you write before you invent a reason to slam August players following the rules and making smart decisions that you can't fathom.

In BY the trapped players are playing up. These are 100% the kind of players college coaches want to recruit. They know they can play with older players and instantly contribute.

Not what the data says.

If by data you mean months of the year you are stupidly wrong.

In BY you cant play down and Aug-Dec birthdays play up a grade.

MLSN1 has Biobanding you can play down and they don't use grades obviously

Ok I see you just moved the goalposts. Here is thought we were discussing BY.

Open your eyes. The eco-system and how it works is complicated and represent efforts to provide players multiple pathways to success (which provides hope for players and cash for clubs).

My eyes are 100% open.

I'm pointing out that in multiple ways (College MLSN HG) if Aug birthdays want to play on top teams they need to play with their grade.

Disagree.

You tried to mislead leagues and teams to go GY with a campaign of made up garbage to slam August births and force them to play up that obviously went nowhere.

Now you are trying to run a misinformation campaign and shame August births to voluntarily play up a year all for your Sept born DD to get more playing time. It won't work.

Why do the people with the worst positions possible always label other people's positions as misinformation?

Theres no campaign just experience and reality.

Your misinformation campaign is evidenced by your complete lack of facts and citations of reputable sources while supplying a cloudy crystal ball of the future. Reality is going from BY to SY with no GY.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

Not sure what you mean. Everything I've seen from scouts/clubs so far seems to indicate, it's about the player, not the grade.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

It's highlight reels and emails to coaches not some old crank with a clip board searching the sandlots for the next star.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

Not sure what you mean. Everything I've seen from scouts/clubs so far seems to indicate, it's about the player, not the grade.

I bet $100 the first thing every college coach wants to know about a player is their graduation year.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

It's highlight reels and emails to coaches not some old crank with a clip board searching the sandlots for the next star.

It's also having coaches with connections in your corner. You get that by playing on strong clubs, doing ID camps and try to get involved in programs like USYNT and ODP.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I think about it MLSN1s decision to stay BY will result in multiple months of players looking to play up a level in SY leagues so they get noticed.

Jan-July players in SY leagues will feel pressure to play up as a way to stand out from the crowd and get noticed by MLSN1 coaches. Aug-Dec will feel pressure to play up just to be a part of the crowd that gets considered by MLSN1 coaches.

Which in the end works out for everyone because playing with your grade early sets players up for being looked at by college recuiters when they're older.

FYI, teams are blocking playing up an age group. And your knowledge of MLSN1 recruiting matches your knowledge of college recruiting.

Not sure how you turned the original comment into an irrelevant opportunity for you to try to helicopter for your girl and try to make Sept the oldest but it is the only thing you can see.

Hahahaha the reason your ECNL leaders said they dont want players playing up is because if this happens a lot it weakens leagues and boys ECNL cements itself as tier 2.

But, if playing on a BY MLSN1 team is what everyone is going for. Everyone in a SY league will consider playing up.

It's not allowed.

You can always play up, so it's allowed. But you just have to be really, really good.

Hes just blowing a fuse because the reality of Aug birthdays playing by grade ts starting to dawn on him.

The only reality I see is grade is a factor for some but not for others and the clubs are rolling with it.

This is competitive soccer. The top teams control the leagues. The players parents and coaches fron the top teams will make grade in school a part of the decision process for the teams they play on / coach. It all works together.

Yep, and what I'm seeing at the highest level so far is age/talent > grade.

I appreciate the littles 7v7 report.

When your kid gets older getting recruited to play in college takes over which is why if your kid was born in Aug they should play on a team thats their grade asap. Don't let clubs steal your kids long term potential by playing them down for short term wins.

Sorry dude, I'm reporting about 11v11. Funny thing is those who want it about grade aren't about college recruiting. It's more about playing with friends. The ones interested in college still -- they are after the A team and the platform it provides.

Whatever the reason. I actually agree with you that its better for Aug players to play with other kids their grade.

That's not what I said. What I said is players are pursing what's best for them (as they should).

But thers a balance between whats best for your kid and whats best for the team. Players playing the correct grade and working to get recruited to play in college wont appreciate a kid a grade older stealing their minutes.

Nah, I think they'll appreciate another good player on the team they can practice to get better with and maybe win with.

Thats not how it works when you are the best player. You want visability for the next level.

Right and you get visibility by leading the best team possible and standing out on that team. If you're losing minutes, you need to look within, not blame others.

Yeah, visibility does come from being the best on a good team which is more likely as the oldest instead of the youngest on a team.

College coaches will see through the trojan horses playing down. If they wanted Juniors in HS theyd recruit from the JV team.

Not sure what you mean. Everything I've seen from scouts/clubs so far seems to indicate, it's about the player, not the grade.

I bet $100 the first thing every college coach wants to know about a player is their graduation year.

Well, duh, so they know when they can come to campus. Beyond that, though, I'm not so sure.