Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

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Anonymous wrote:“WASHINGTON—A top secret U.S. Navy acoustic detection system designed to spot enemy submarines first heard the Titan sub implosion hours after the submersible began its mission, officials involved in the search said.
The Navy began listening for the Titan almost as soon as the sub lost communications, according to a U.S. defense official. Shortly after its disappearance, the U.S. system detected what it suspected was the sound of an implosion near the debris site discovered Thursday and reported its findings to the commander on site, U.S. defense officials said.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-navy-detected-titan-sub-implosion-days-ago-6844cb12

I'm really surprised this was revealed. Our (deep sea) military capabilities should be a lot more covert and to make this press release of this info wasn't worth it.

Should have kept your mouth shut Navy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I'd like to know is what was making those noises every 30 minutes if it wasn't Titan?

Anything, could have been the Titanic, remnants of Titan, mermaids, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“WASHINGTON—A top secret U.S. Navy acoustic detection system designed to spot enemy submarines first heard the Titan sub implosion hours after the submersible began its mission, officials involved in the search said.
The Navy began listening for the Titan almost as soon as the sub lost communications, according to a U.S. defense official. Shortly after its disappearance, the U.S. system detected what it suspected was the sound of an implosion near the debris site discovered Thursday and reported its findings to the commander on site, U.S. defense officials said.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-navy-detected-titan-sub-implosion-days-ago-6844cb12

I'm really surprised this was revealed. Our (deep sea) military capabilities should be a lot more covert and to make this press release of this info wasn't worth it.

Should have kept your mouth shut Navy.

despite what the article wrote--this is not really a secret fyi

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“These men were true explorers who shared a distinct spirit of adventure, and a deep passion for exploring and protecting the world’s oceans." -- Statement from Oceangate

They use the word explorers repeatedly. They were not all explorers - three of them were CUSTOMERS.

I'd like to know exactly what the "true explorers" did to protect the world's oceans - especially a 19 year old.

Does Oceangate really think we are all so gullible as to believe this??

Please! Respect the 48 hour rule if nothing else.

Agree.

These men are heroes.

Umm, no.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So per the kid's older sister, he didn't want to go on the sub and only did it bc it was Fathers Day/his father was Titanic obsessed (others had dropped out so seats opened up). Per his aunt - he was terrified of going and had expressed to other family members that he was terrified.

Wow. Learn to say no - even to mommy and daddy - folks. Or as I said before why on earth could mom not step in here and tell DH he was free to do what he wanted but her DS wasn't going esp since he was terrified!?

What makes you think the mother had any say in this matter? Different culture.

The mother is white/British. She's not a subservient Pakistani woman - and btw if you think Pakistani women are subservient with respect to their baby boys lol you don't know our culture. Mama always wins re her kids and esp her son at this age.

The culture issue may not be Pakistani vs European culture as much as billionaire culture. We don't know how this guy was - he actually wasn't a billionaire, "only" worth hundreds of millions. We don't know if this was a family where daddy was like you live this life because of MY money, MY empire, we'll do things MY way - and everyone went with it because of course they liked their rich lifestyle.

The guy was 19 yrs old, not 9. I mean really. I know kids are taking longer to grow up these days but man, he was 19. He could’ve said no, my kids refuse to go everywhere with me. Not blaming him but let’s not act like he was a child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“WASHINGTON—A top secret U.S. Navy acoustic detection system designed to spot enemy submarines first heard the Titan sub implosion hours after the submersible began its mission, officials involved in the search said.
The Navy began listening for the Titan almost as soon as the sub lost communications, according to a U.S. defense official. Shortly after its disappearance, the U.S. system detected what it suspected was the sound of an implosion near the debris site discovered Thursday and reported its findings to the commander on site, U.S. defense officials said.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-navy-detected-titan-sub-implosion-days-ago-6844cb12

I'm really surprised this was revealed. Our (deep sea) military capabilities should be a lot more covert and to make this press release of this info wasn't worth it.

Should have kept your mouth shut Navy.

despite what the article wrote--this is not really a secret fyi

+1

It would be a bigger ball drop for the Navy not to have such a detection system already.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That poor kid. I wonder if the parents fought over this before they went. I realize the son was 19 and an adult, but parent pressure can be the worst.

Presumably the parents paid for it because the ticket cost $250k.

Oh I forgot, that one family paid a half million dollars for this ordeal!!

I saw this on a Reddit thread about the passengers but the father wasn’t a billionaire however he was estimated to be worth 130 million which is still obviously mega wealthy.

Hamish Harding was the billionaire, not Dawood.

Yeah and I think Harding was the only billionaire on board. The others were merely mega wealthy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So per the kid's older sister, he didn't want to go on the sub and only did it bc it was Fathers Day/his father was Titanic obsessed (others had dropped out so seats opened up). Per his aunt - he was terrified of going and had expressed to other family members that he was terrified.

Wow. Learn to say no - even to mommy and daddy - folks. Or as I said before why on earth could mom not step in here and tell DH he was free to do what he wanted but her DS wasn't going esp since he was terrified!?

What makes you think the mother had any say in this matter? Different culture.

The mother is white/British. She's not a subservient Pakistani woman - and btw if you think Pakistani women are subservient with respect to their baby boys lol you don't know our culture. Mama always wins re her kids and esp her son at this age.

The culture issue may not be Pakistani vs European culture as much as billionaire culture. We don't know how this guy was - he actually wasn't a billionaire, "only" worth hundreds of millions. We don't know if this was a family where daddy was like you live this life because of MY money, MY empire, we'll do things MY way - and everyone went with it because of course they liked their rich lifestyle.

The guy was 19 yrs old, not 9. I mean really. I know kids are taking longer to grow up these days but man, he was 19. He could’ve said no, my kids refuse to go everywhere with me. Not blaming him but let’s not act like he was a child.

Pretty sure he’s tied to his dad via much more than your average family. He relied on his dad for fund his lifestyle most lilkely, and wouldn’t feel comfortable just saying no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So per the kid's older sister, he didn't want to go on the sub and only did it bc it was Fathers Day/his father was Titanic obsessed (others had dropped out so seats opened up). Per his aunt - he was terrified of going and had expressed to other family members that he was terrified.

Wow. Learn to say no - even to mommy and daddy - folks. Or as I said before why on earth could mom not step in here and tell DH he was free to do what he wanted but her DS wasn't going esp since he was terrified!?

What makes you think the mother had any say in this matter? Different culture.

The mother is white/British. She's not a subservient Pakistani woman - and btw if you think Pakistani women are subservient with respect to their baby boys lol you don't know our culture. Mama always wins re her kids and esp her son at this age.

The culture issue may not be Pakistani vs European culture as much as billionaire culture. We don't know how this guy was - he actually wasn't a billionaire, "only" worth hundreds of millions. We don't know if this was a family where daddy was like you live this life because of MY money, MY empire, we'll do things MY way - and everyone went with it because of course they liked their rich lifestyle.

The guy was 19 yrs old, not 9. I mean really. I know kids are taking longer to grow up these days but man, he was 19. He could’ve said no, my kids refuse to go everywhere with me. Not blaming him but let’s not act like he was a child.

I agree with you but LOTS of 19 year old MEN these days may as well be 9. Hell lots of 25 year old men these days aren't their own man yet. All I'm saying is it isn't hard for a rich daddy to influence a 19 year old in this day and age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In another report I heard the son went down because the trip was scheduled on Father’s Day.

🙁

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“These men were true explorers who shared a distinct spirit of adventure, and a deep passion for exploring and protecting the world’s oceans." -- Statement from Oceangate

They use the word explorers repeatedly. They were not all explorers - three of them were CUSTOMERS.

I'd like to know exactly what the "true explorers" did to protect the world's oceans - especially a 19 year old.

Does Oceangate really think we are all so gullible as to believe this??

Please! Respect the 48 hour rule if nothing else.

Agree.

These men are heroes.

Umm, no.

Are sky divers heroes? how about base jumpers? Race car drivers? Stunt people? Are they also heroes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“WASHINGTON—A top secret U.S. Navy acoustic detection system designed to spot enemy submarines first heard the Titan sub implosion hours after the submersible began its mission, officials involved in the search said.
The Navy began listening for the Titan almost as soon as the sub lost communications, according to a U.S. defense official. Shortly after its disappearance, the U.S. system detected what it suspected was the sound of an implosion near the debris site discovered Thursday and reported its findings to the commander on site, U.S. defense officials said.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-navy-detected-titan-sub-implosion-days-ago-6844cb12

If they knew that why did they send so many ships and planes? Or are they only realizing this in retrospect?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So per the kid's older sister, he didn't want to go on the sub and only did it bc it was Fathers Day/his father was Titanic obsessed (others had dropped out so seats opened up). Per his aunt - he was terrified of going and had expressed to other family members that he was terrified.

Wow. Learn to say no - even to mommy and daddy - folks. Or as I said before why on earth could mom not step in here and tell DH he was free to do what he wanted but her DS wasn't going esp since he was terrified!?

What makes you think the mother had any say in this matter? Different culture.

The mother is white/British. She's not a subservient Pakistani woman - and btw if you think Pakistani women are subservient with respect to their baby boys lol you don't know our culture. Mama always wins re her kids and esp her son at this age.

The culture issue may not be Pakistani vs European culture as much as billionaire culture. We don't know how this guy was - he actually wasn't a billionaire, "only" worth hundreds of millions. We don't know if this was a family where daddy was like you live this life because of MY money, MY empire, we'll do things MY way - and everyone went with it because of course they liked their rich lifestyle.

The guy was 19 yrs old, not 9. I mean really. I know kids are taking longer to grow up these days but man, he was 19. He could’ve said no, my kids refuse to go everywhere with me. Not blaming him but let’s not act like he was a child.

I agree with you but LOTS of 19 year old MEN these days may as well be 9. Hell lots of 25 year old men these days aren't their own man yet. All I'm saying is it isn't hard for a rich daddy to influence a 19 year old in this day and age.

They may as well be 9, but they aren’t 9. Huge difference. 25 year olds may as well be 12. It’s sad he had a rich dad. A shame he had no autonomy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So per the kid's older sister, he didn't want to go on the sub and only did it bc it was Fathers Day/his father was Titanic obsessed (others had dropped out so seats opened up). Per his aunt - he was terrified of going and had expressed to other family members that he was terrified.

Wow. Learn to say no - even to mommy and daddy - folks. Or as I said before why on earth could mom not step in here and tell DH he was free to do what he wanted but her DS wasn't going esp since he was terrified!?

What makes you think the mother had any say in this matter? Different culture.

The mother is white/British. She's not a subservient Pakistani woman - and btw if you think Pakistani women are subservient with respect to their baby boys lol you don't know our culture. Mama always wins re her kids and esp her son at this age.

The culture issue may not be Pakistani vs European culture as much as billionaire culture. We don't know how this guy was - he actually wasn't a billionaire, "only" worth hundreds of millions. We don't know if this was a family where daddy was like you live this life because of MY money, MY empire, we'll do things MY way - and everyone went with it because of course they liked their rich lifestyle.

The guy was 19 yrs old, not 9. I mean really. I know kids are taking longer to grow up these days but man, he was 19. He could’ve said no, my kids refuse to go everywhere with me. Not blaming him but let’s not act like he was a child.

I agree with you but LOTS of 19 year old MEN these days may as well be 9. Hell lots of 25 year old men these days aren't their own man yet. All I'm saying is it isn't hard for a rich daddy to influence a 19 year old in this day and age.

They may as well be 9, but they aren’t 9. Huge difference. 25 year olds may as well be 12. It’s sad he had a rich dad. A shame he had no autonomy.

Look, no one twisted the 19 year old man’s arm to ride that crap device.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“WASHINGTON—A top secret U.S. Navy acoustic detection system designed to spot enemy submarines first heard the Titan sub implosion hours after the submersible began its mission, officials involved in the search said.
The Navy began listening for the Titan almost as soon as the sub lost communications, according to a U.S. defense official. Shortly after its disappearance, the U.S. system detected what it suspected was the sound of an implosion near the debris site discovered Thursday and reported its findings to the commander on site, U.S. defense officials said.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-navy-detected-titan-sub-implosion-days-ago-6844cb12

If they knew that why did they send so many ships and planes? Or are they only realizing this in retrospect?

Likely retrospect. Plus they didn't KNOW for sure that it was the Titan imploding. Until they had confirmation they couldn't just be like - well we detected a boom around that time, that was prob your guys, oh well. So they sent whatever assets they had that could get there- which up until last night was just planes and ships that couldn't get down that deep.