Republican utopia - Texas!

[Anonymous]

This patient was absolutely not given a full picture of her medical situation. Sure, the docs could have tried to get her on bed rest, complying with her meds, etc-there is no way to know if that would have prevented her death, though. I mean, maybe if she knew exactly how dire things were, she might have followed doctor’s orders?

You don’t know what her doctors told her. You think this woman saw multiple doctors while hospitalized and none of them told her what her medical status was and what she needed to do? Why isn’t the family suing the hospitals and doctors for medical malpractice then?

[Anonymous]

Most sane doctors in states with reasonable abortion laws presented with a patient like her would have told her that she could not carry this pregnancy at this time.

She could carry her baby. She made it 31 weeks into her pregnancy, even with inconsistent medication compliance and no treatment from a high risk ob-gyn.

Diabetic pregnant women have to be followed very carefully and monitor their blood sugar constantly, daily. With each meal. Their insulin use usually increases and they have to sometimes take insulin with each meal and way more insulin than they have ever taken before. They see their ob-gyn more than women without diabetes. They are constantly watching their weight and diets. Their ob-gyns are testing them and measuring them and giving them all kinds of information about what to monitor and watch for at home.

This woman could have had the care she needed and not died. It’s really repulsive that her family never stated she wanted an abortion but everyone here is claiming she had to have an abortion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Most sane doctors in states with reasonable abortion laws presented with a patient like her would have told her that she could not carry this pregnancy at this time.

She could carry her baby. She made it 31 weeks into her pregnancy, even with inconsistent medication compliance and no treatment from a high risk ob-gyn.

Diabetic pregnant women have to be followed very carefully and monitor their blood sugar constantly, daily. With each meal. Their insulin use usually increases and they have to sometimes take insulin with each meal and way more insulin than they have ever taken before. They see their ob-gyn more than women without diabetes. They are constantly watching their weight and diets. Their ob-gyns are testing them and measuring them and giving them all kinds of information about what to monitor and watch for at home.

This woman could have had the care she needed and not died. It’s really repulsive that her family never stated she wanted an abortion but everyone here is claiming she had to have an abortion.

Because she died… we know she needed an abortion because she’s dead. We see the value in her life, even if you don’t.

[Anonymous]

No one actually knows the full story, including what exactly her docs told her. And yes, she probably should have been seeing a high risk ob. There are so many things that combined here and ultimately led to her death and the loss of the child she was carrying.

That said, the doctors interviewed in the article all say that termination should have been discussed at that critical 10 week appointment. Whether she wanted it or not doesn’t matter. It is the medical option that would have alleviated the stress on her body given the already difficult medical situation (including her noncompliance with all her meds).

If a woman who didn’t want an abortion heard that is what is probably needed, don’t you think she might have begged to know how to avoid one? Maybe starting to comply and all of the other interventions might have happened at that point, but again, hard to say.

In Texas, that discussion couldn’t happen. That we know for certain.

This story to me is a lot more than just she lived in TX-class, location, insurance, sick leave, immigration, etc all are at play here. But it definitely didn’t help the situation to live in a state with harsh restrictions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, the insurance piece of this would be helpful in understanding how to try to avoid those holes in patient care overall.

It doesn’t change that pregnancy was putting stress on her body that already had multiple problems that weren’t able to be treated correctly for a multitude of reasons (including not taking her meds she was already prescribed), and all of that combined to kill her

Most sane doctors in states with reasonable abortion laws presented with a patient like her would have told her that she could not carry this pregnancy at this time. The doctors in tx are prevented from offering this option during a medical appt, and even if they do so in a hush hush way, the patient doesn’t have a lot of options anyway since you apparently need to be coding in TX before they can touch you. (Kate Cox)

This patient was absolutely not given a full picture of her medical situation. Sure, the docs could have tried to get her on bed rest, complying with her meds, etc-there is no way to know if that would have prevented her death, though. I mean, maybe if she knew exactly how dire things were, she might have followed doctor’s orders?

But being in TX and not being allowed to hear the true seriousness of her situation definitely contributed to her death.

The strain on her body should have been treated by a high risk ob-gyn. She wanted her baby. She didn’t need to abort her baby. She needed medical care. If women who want an abortion are being kept from receiving abortions and it’s being termed needed healthcare, why can’t a woman who is pregnant and wants her baby and has diabetes receive the healthcare she needs to keep her baby?

Is everyone stating the only healthcare a pregnant woman should receive is abortion?

This woman’s death was preventable if she had been treated by a high risk ob-gyn. She deserved healthcare.

Why is everyone choosing abortion for a woman who didn’t want it? She didn’t want an abortion. She wasn’t compliant taking her life saving medication. She was morbidly obese and diabetic. She needed to be admitted to a hospital for treatment and given good treatment and stabilized. If she was admitted and kept hospitalized, she could have lived and her baby lived.

What is your party doing about making sure women don't have to ration health care because they can't afford it? What is your party doing to make sure pregnant women all get paid sick leave so they can go to doctor's appointments or stay home when they are feeling ill or their doctor put them on bed rest? Real legislation that your party and the politicians you support are proposing or backing to make sure being poor doesn't lead to poor outcomes for pregnant women.

p.s. Why did Texas reject expanding medicaid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Most sane doctors in states with reasonable abortion laws presented with a patient like her would have told her that she could not carry this pregnancy at this time.

She could carry her baby. She made it 31 weeks into her pregnancy, even with inconsistent medication compliance and no treatment from a high risk ob-gyn.

Diabetic pregnant women have to be followed very carefully and monitor their blood sugar constantly, daily. With each meal. Their insulin use usually increases and they have to sometimes take insulin with each meal and way more insulin than they have ever taken before. They see their ob-gyn more than women without diabetes. They are constantly watching their weight and diets. Their ob-gyns are testing them and measuring them and giving them all kinds of information about what to monitor and watch for at home.

This woman could have had the care she needed and not died. It’s really repulsive that her family never stated she wanted an abortion but everyone here is claiming she had to have an abortion.

it's really repulsive that the so-called "pro-life" party rejects the idea of providing free health care, free medications, and paid sick leave for all pregnant women.

[Anonymous]

There is no proper health system in this country. Even in states with abortion access mortality is dismal for pregnant women in the US. Yet I don't see anyone, including Democrats (aside from a small number, and that doesn't include Biden) fighting to expand healthcare access and lower cost in a truly meaningful fashion, for ALL Americans. Lower ACA premiums for some falls short, because the cost of actually using the plans stays extremely high especially for the cheaper plans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no proper health system in this country. Even in states with abortion access mortality is dismal for pregnant women in the US. Yet I don't see anyone, including Democrats (aside from a small number, and that doesn't include Biden) fighting to expand healthcare access and lower cost in a truly meaningful fashion, for ALL Americans. Lower ACA premiums for some falls short, because the cost of actually using the plans stays extremely high especially for the cheaper plans.

Democrats would love universal health insurance, would love to expand healthcare access to all. Unfortunately Republicans would never let them get anything through Congress. Or do you think somehow the GOP would change its tune if Democrats introduce such legislation? Because you know that Democrats don't have the majority in the House and the speaker who has control of what comes to the floor is Republican and that party follows the "Hastert Rule". So even if a bill would have all Democrats voting for it and enough Republicans to vote for it to pass, if the majority of Republicans would not vote for it, the Republican speaker will not bring it to a floor vote.

What is your solution to that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no proper health system in this country. Even in states with abortion access mortality is dismal for pregnant women in the US. Yet I don't see anyone, including Democrats (aside from a small number, and that doesn't include Biden) fighting to expand healthcare access and lower cost in a truly meaningful fashion, for ALL Americans. Lower ACA premiums for some falls short, because the cost of actually using the plans stays extremely high especially for the cheaper plans.

Democrats would love universal health insurance, would love to expand healthcare access to all. Unfortunately Republicans would never let them get anything through Congress. Or do you think somehow the GOP would change its tune if Democrats introduce such legislation? Because you know that Democrats don't have the majority in the House and the speaker who has control of what comes to the floor is Republican and that party follows the "Hastert Rule". So even if a bill would have all Democrats voting for it and enough Republicans to vote for it to pass, if the majority of Republicans would not vote for it, the Republican speaker will not bring it to a floor vote.

What is your solution to that?

This woman’s family said she applied for medicaid and never heard back from the medicaid benefits office. The reporter should investigate what happened to this woman’s medicaid application. If she was entitled to free medical care for her pregnancy and child birth, the incompetence of the office that mishandled her benefits application should be exposed and called to explain why this woman and her baby died because of the lack of access to medical care and treatment.

Pregnant women are already entitled to free pregnancy care, free labor and delivery medical care, free medications, through medicaid.

[Anonymous]

State benefit programs help people with
little or no money who are in need

SNAP Food Benefits
Helps families buy food for good health.


TANF Cash Help
Helps families with children age 18 and younger pay for basic needs.


Health Care
Helps cover visits to doctors, dentists, and hospitals. Also covers medicines ordered by doctors and dentists.


Support Services
Helps people with daily living needs, caregivers, and people with mental health, drug or alcohol issues.


WIC Food Benefits
Helps pregnant, breastfeeding women and families with children younger than 5 buy healthy foods.

https://www.yourtexasbenefits.com/Learn/Home

Women and Children
HHS provides services to Texas women such as aiding in preventing unintended pregnancies, nurturing healthier pregnancies, addressing domestic violence and taking care of children. Texans also can apply for insurance for their children through Children's Health Insurance Program and Medicaid.

Medicaid and CHIP (Children's Health Insurance Program) help you cover medical expenses for children and people with disabilities who meet income requirements.
Healthy Texas Women offers women's health and family planning services at no cost to eligible, low-income women such as women's health exams, health screenings and birth control.
The Family Planning Program provides high-quality, comprehensive, low-cost and accessible family planning and reproductive health care services to eligible women and men in Texas.
The Breast and Cervical Cancer Services Program provides high-quality and accessible breast and cervical cancer screening and diagnostic services to women. Eligible clients receive these services free of charge.
WIC (Women, Infants and Children Program) is a health and nutrition program that helps improve the diets of infants and children as well as pregnant, postpartum and breastfeeding women.
Family Violence Program promotes self-sufficiency, safety, and long-term independence of adult and child victims of family violence and victims of teen dating violence.
Texas Nurse-Family Partnership pairs registered nurses with low-income, first-time mothers to improve prenatal care and provide one-on-one education and counseling focusing on child development.
Adoption Services provides information about the adoption process in Texas.
Thriving Texas Families (formerly known as Alternatives to Abortion) program provides pregnant women with pregnancy and parenting information and supports.
A Woman's Right to Know provides important information about the baby growing in your womb and the resources available to you during and after your pregnancy.


https://www.hhs.texas.gov/services/health/women-children

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Although some women with the same conditions as Yeni—hypertension, diabetes, a history of pulmonary edema, severe obesity—

This woman and her baby died from medical complications from obesity. Morbid obesity.

Cause of death: Hypertensive cardiovascular disease associated with morbid obesity

other contributing factors
Pregnancy

She wanted to be pregnant and wanted her baby.

Texas is a huge state. Specialized medical doctors are not available in small towns in most states.

I don’t know why the mother wasn’t on medicaid to receive medical benefits. She qualified for them.

I don't think so, she was undocumented . Undocumented immigrants are barred from Medicaid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:State benefit programs help people with
little or no money who are in need

SNAP Food Benefits
Helps families buy food for good health.


TANF Cash Help
Helps families with children age 18 and younger pay for basic needs.


Health Care
Helps cover visits to doctors, dentists, and hospitals. Also covers medicines ordered by doctors and dentists.


Support Services
Helps people with daily living needs, caregivers, and people with mental health, drug or alcohol issues.


WIC Food Benefits
Helps pregnant, breastfeeding women and families with children younger than 5 buy healthy foods.

https://www.yourtexasbenefits.com/Learn/Home

Women and Children
HHS provides services to Texas women such as aiding in preventing unintended pregnancies, nurturing healthier pregnancies, addressing domestic violence and taking care of children. Texans also can apply for insurance for their children through Children's Health Insurance Program and Medicaid.

Medicaid and CHIP (Children's Health Insurance Program) help you cover medical expenses for children and people with disabilities who meet income requirements.
Healthy Texas Women offers women's health and family planning services at no cost to eligible, low-income women such as women's health exams, health screenings and birth control.
The Family Planning Program provides high-quality, comprehensive, low-cost and accessible family planning and reproductive health care services to eligible women and men in Texas.
The Breast and Cervical Cancer Services Program provides high-quality and accessible breast and cervical cancer screening and diagnostic services to women. Eligible clients receive these services free of charge.
WIC (Women, Infants and Children Program) is a health and nutrition program that helps improve the diets of infants and children as well as pregnant, postpartum and breastfeeding women.
Family Violence Program promotes self-sufficiency, safety, and long-term independence of adult and child victims of family violence and victims of teen dating violence.
Texas Nurse-Family Partnership pairs registered nurses with low-income, first-time mothers to improve prenatal care and provide one-on-one education and counseling focusing on child development.
Adoption Services provides information about the adoption process in Texas.
Thriving Texas Families (formerly known as Alternatives to Abortion) program provides pregnant women with pregnancy and parenting information and supports.
A Woman's Right to Know provides important information about the baby growing in your womb and the resources available to you during and after your pregnancy.


https://www.hhs.texas.gov/services/health/women-children

She was undocumented. That severely limits service eligibility. Definitely no SNAP. No Medicaid except for emergency care and then only if residency can be established (although hospital has obligations to treat for emergency condiions anyway).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:State benefit programs help people with
little or no money who are in need

SNAP Food Benefits
Helps families buy food for good health.


TANF Cash Help
Helps families with children age 18 and younger pay for basic needs.


Health Care
Helps cover visits to doctors, dentists, and hospitals. Also covers medicines ordered by doctors and dentists.


Support Services
Helps people with daily living needs, caregivers, and people with mental health, drug or alcohol issues.


WIC Food Benefits
Helps pregnant, breastfeeding women and families with children younger than 5 buy healthy foods.

https://www.yourtexasbenefits.com/Learn/Home

Women and Children
HHS provides services to Texas women such as aiding in preventing unintended pregnancies, nurturing healthier pregnancies, addressing domestic violence and taking care of children. Texans also can apply for insurance for their children through Children's Health Insurance Program and Medicaid.

Medicaid and CHIP (Children's Health Insurance Program) help you cover medical expenses for children and people with disabilities who meet income requirements.
Healthy Texas Women offers women's health and family planning services at no cost to eligible, low-income women such as women's health exams, health screenings and birth control.
The Family Planning Program provides high-quality, comprehensive, low-cost and accessible family planning and reproductive health care services to eligible women and men in Texas.
The Breast and Cervical Cancer Services Program provides high-quality and accessible breast and cervical cancer screening and diagnostic services to women. Eligible clients receive these services free of charge.
WIC (Women, Infants and Children Program) is a health and nutrition program that helps improve the diets of infants and children as well as pregnant, postpartum and breastfeeding women.
Family Violence Program promotes self-sufficiency, safety, and long-term independence of adult and child victims of family violence and victims of teen dating violence.
Texas Nurse-Family Partnership pairs registered nurses with low-income, first-time mothers to improve prenatal care and provide one-on-one education and counseling focusing on child development.
Adoption Services provides information about the adoption process in Texas.
Thriving Texas Families (formerly known as Alternatives to Abortion) program provides pregnant women with pregnancy and parenting information and supports.
A Woman's Right to Know provides important information about the baby growing in your womb and the resources available to you during and after your pregnancy.


https://www.hhs.texas.gov/services/health/women-children

Texas is one of the few states to have rejected the expansion of medicaid. Shameful.

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/medicaid-expansion-benefits-legislature/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no proper health system in this country. Even in states with abortion access mortality is dismal for pregnant women in the US. Yet I don't see anyone, including Democrats (aside from a small number, and that doesn't include Biden) fighting to expand healthcare access and lower cost in a truly meaningful fashion, for ALL Americans. Lower ACA premiums for some falls short, because the cost of actually using the plans stays extremely high especially for the cheaper plans.

Democrats would love universal health insurance, would love to expand healthcare access to all. Unfortunately Republicans would never let them get anything through Congress. Or do you think somehow the GOP would change its tune if Democrats introduce such legislation? Because you know that Democrats don't have the majority in the House and the speaker who has control of what comes to the floor is Republican and that party follows the "Hastert Rule". So even if a bill would have all Democrats voting for it and enough Republicans to vote for it to pass, if the majority of Republicans would not vote for it, the Republican speaker will not bring it to a floor vote.

What is your solution to that?

This woman’s family said she applied for medicaid and never heard back from the medicaid benefits office. The reporter should investigate what happened to this woman’s medicaid application. If she was entitled to free medical care for her pregnancy and child birth, the incompetence of the office that mishandled her benefits application should be exposed and called to explain why this woman and her baby died because of the lack of access to medical care and treatment.

Pregnant women are already entitled to free pregnancy care, free labor and delivery medical care, free medications, through medicaid.

But not paid sick leave. And not all pregnant women. Texas rejected the expansion of medicaid. Because Republicans don't want to expand the social safety net. They are not pro-life.

[Anonymous]

Texas wants to ignore the Supreme Court where the border is concerned. How about the rest of us just ignore the supreme court where abortion is concerned?