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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I do really like the idea of Maury classes doing some events/projects with LT or Miner classes. It's always fun to see all the schools at something like the bike-to-school kick off.

Very hard to imagine Maury and Miner collaborating on something like that at this point. The Maury files would obviously view it as charity.

Isn’t that the premise?

[Anonymous]

It is sad to me that we are 117 pages into a thread created by DME pitting two schools and neighborhoods against each other. My takeaway from all this is that Miner families are more bothered by their feelings of inferiority and performative nonsense than they are or have been about advocating to improve their school and some of the conditions and failures of the school. Prove me wrong; show me any evidence of Miner community being this exercised about the conditions at Miner.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do really like the idea of Maury classes doing some events/projects with LT or Miner classes. It's always fun to see all the schools at something like the bike-to-school kick off.

Very hard to imagine Maury and Miner collaborating on something like that at this point. The Maury files would obviously view it as charity.

Isn’t that the premise?

Perhaps this was a long con by Maury families to be such rude, entitled jerks about this whole thing that Miner wants nothing to do with them anyway. Kudos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is sad to me that we are 117 pages into a thread created by DME pitting two schools and neighborhoods against each other. My takeaway from all this is that Miner families are more bothered by their feelings of inferiority and performative nonsense than they are or have been about advocating to improve their school and some of the conditions and failures of the school. Prove me wrong; show me any evidence of Miner community being this exercised about the conditions at Miner.

Well this comment isn't condescending at all, I can't imagine why Miner families would have any issue with it

[Anonymous]

I think there is a subset of current families at Maury who very specifically and intentionally moved into the boundary in order to attend one of the “best” public elementary schools in DC. Its maybe contributing to the NIMBYism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hey all. Billy Lynch here, your local fair housing attorney who specializes in housing and school integration. Thought I’d drop some evidenced-based research into this riveting anonymous discussion. TLDR- integrated schools help all students and do not affect white student performance.

http://school-diversity.org/pdf/DiversityResearchBriefNo10.pdf

Integrationists in this thread: I see you and applaud you.

Ok Billy: #1. Maury IS integrated
#2. There will never be enough white students in DCPS to integrate it
#3. There is no evidence that this particular change will help at-risk kids
#4. Integration could happen if DCPS adopted a voluntary approached that considered the IB parents preferences, but for some reason this is considered verboten
#5. Where do your kids go to school?

#6. Gonzaga (where Billy went to high school) is private and 75% white
#7. Loyola Chicago (where Billy went to undergrad) is private and 7% AA
#8. Catholic (where Billy went to law school) is private, 70% white and 6% AA
#9. Harvard Kennedy School (where Billy was a Fellow)...well, you know

By all means, Billy. Lecture us some more from your glass house and pristine throne.

lol now I really want to know where Billy will send his kids to school …

I am pretty sure he lotteried them out of Miner and into Ludlow.

please let this be true.

You can find him on Twitter/X. His kids are definitely at Ludlow now. I believe they used to be at Miner.

Goodness, this is way too far.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey all. Billy Lynch here, your local fair housing attorney who specializes in housing and school integration. Thought I’d drop some evidenced-based research into this riveting anonymous discussion. TLDR- integrated schools help all students and do not affect white student performance.

http://school-diversity.org/pdf/DiversityResearchBriefNo10.pdf

Integrationists in this thread: I see you and applaud you.

Ok Billy: #1. Maury IS integrated
#2. There will never be enough white students in DCPS to integrate it
#3. There is no evidence that this particular change will help at-risk kids
#4. Integration could happen if DCPS adopted a voluntary approached that considered the IB parents preferences, but for some reason this is considered verboten
#5. Where do your kids go to school?

#6. Gonzaga (where Billy went to high school) is private and 75% white
#7. Loyola Chicago (where Billy went to undergrad) is private and 7% AA
#8. Catholic (where Billy went to law school) is private, 70% white and 6% AA
#9. Harvard Kennedy School (where Billy was a Fellow)...well, you know

By all means, Billy. Lecture us some more from your glass house and pristine throne.

lol now I really want to know where Billy will send his kids to school …

I am pretty sure he lotteried them out of Miner and into Ludlow.

please let this be true.

You can find him on Twitter/X. His kids are definitely at Ludlow now. I believe they used to be at Miner.

Goodness, this is way too far.

Probably but it’s still incredibly instructive about what’s behind all of these exhortations about schools. Invariably people who don’t walk the walk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think there is a subset of current families at Maury who very specifically and intentionally moved into the boundary in order to attend one of the “best” public elementary schools in DC. Its maybe contributing to the NIMBYism.

I mean, it is kind of pulling the rug out from under them. Boundary adjustments one can anticipate, but for this to just come out of nowhere? A lot of people really stretch financially to get a house in a school district they're comfortable in. And sure, it's not possible for everyone no matter how far they stretch, but this potentially has a really adverse effect on a lot of people's financial situation. I do feel for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think there is a subset of current families at Maury who very specifically and intentionally moved into the boundary in order to attend one of the “best” public elementary schools in DC. It's maybe contributing to the NIMBYism.

Yes, that's what parents do all over the country. Move to a specific neighborhood for the schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think there is a subset of current families at Maury who very specifically and intentionally moved into the boundary in order to attend one of the “best” public elementary schools in DC. It's maybe contributing to the NIMBYism.

Yes, that's what parents do all over the country. Move to a specific neighborhood for the schools.

Exactly, it's not unusual or bad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey all. Billy Lynch here, your local fair housing attorney who specializes in housing and school integration. Thought I’d drop some evidenced-based research into this riveting anonymous discussion. TLDR- integrated schools help all students and do not affect white student performance.

http://school-diversity.org/pdf/DiversityResearchBriefNo10.pdf

Integrationists in this thread: I see you and applaud you.

Ok Billy: #1. Maury IS integrated
#2. There will never be enough white students in DCPS to integrate it
#3. There is no evidence that this particular change will help at-risk kids
#4. Integration could happen if DCPS adopted a voluntary approached that considered the IB parents preferences, but for some reason this is considered verboten
#5. Where do your kids go to school?

#6. Gonzaga (where Billy went to high school) is private and 75% white
#7. Loyola Chicago (where Billy went to undergrad) is private and 7% AA
#8. Catholic (where Billy went to law school) is private, 70% white and 6% AA
#9. Harvard Kennedy School (where Billy was a Fellow)...well, you know

By all means, Billy. Lecture us some more from your glass house and pristine throne.

lol now I really want to know where Billy will send his kids to school …

I am pretty sure he lotteried them out of Miner and into Ludlow.

please let this be true.

You can find him on Twitter/X. His kids are definitely at Ludlow now. I believe they used to be at Miner.

Goodness, this is way too far.

I mean, he posted non-anonymously on purpose and has a non-anonymous Twitter/X account where this info is shared.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think there is a subset of current families at Maury who very specifically and intentionally moved into the boundary in order to attend one of the “best” public elementary schools in DC. It's maybe contributing to the NIMBYism.

Yes, that's what parents do all over the country. Move to a specific neighborhood for the schools.

Yes but there's a difference between moving somewhere for a specific school district, or even a specific school triangle, and moving somewhere for a specific elementary. Especially in DC where elementary schools are small and boundaries often cut through neighborhoods, as is the case with Maury and Miner.

The NIMBYism in this situation is extra strange to me because these two elementaries feed to the same MS, which families at Maury are currently actively trying to improve. Moving into the Maury boundary while KNOWING that there is an elementary school a half mile away with essentially the opposite demographics and outcomes, and then being surprised when the suggested solutions for this problem impact the school you bought in-boundary for, reflects some ignorance about how school districts work. Districts are always seeking to balance populations, whether it's moving kids around to address overcrowding, balancing demographics, or trying to create feeder patterns that make sense.

In any case, there is a version of this cluster idea that could actually be an opportunity for Maury and Miner IB families to join forces and create two great schools that then feed to the same middle school. But it sounds like the vision for greatness at Maury is as much about who they keep out (poor kids, SpEd kids, at risk kids) as what they actually do at the school, so they do not feel up to that taks with a much more racially and socioeconomically diverse population.

[Anonymous]

It is also common practice to re-evaluate school boundaries.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/economic-disparities-in-the-washington-d-c-metro-region-provide-opportunities-for-policy-action/#:~:text=In%20Washington%2C%20D.C.%20specifically%2C%20the,Black%20residents%2C%20which%20is%20%2445%2C072.

[Anonymous]

I live in the Miner boundary with a toddler, and in this whole debate even though I guess it is against my self interest I feel most sympathetic to the Maury parents TBH. They have a great school and it is an asset for the hill and it would be a shame if all that progress was reversed. (We literally live 1 block away from the Maury boundary)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think there is a subset of current families at Maury who very specifically and intentionally moved into the boundary in order to attend one of the “best” public elementary schools in DC. It's maybe contributing to the NIMBYism.

Yes, that's what parents do all over the country. Move to a specific neighborhood for the schools.

Yes but there's a difference between moving somewhere for a specific school district, or even a specific school triangle, and moving somewhere for a specific elementary. Especially in DC where elementary schools are small and boundaries often cut through neighborhoods, as is the case with Maury and Miner.

The NIMBYism in this situation is extra strange to me because these two elementaries feed to the same MS, which families at Maury are currently actively trying to improve. Moving into the Maury boundary while KNOWING that there is an elementary school a half mile away with essentially the opposite demographics and outcomes, and then being surprised when the suggested solutions for this problem impact the school you bought in-boundary for, reflects some ignorance about how school districts work. Districts are always seeking to balance populations, whether it's moving kids around to address overcrowding, balancing demographics, or trying to create feeder patterns that make sense.

In any case, there is a version of this cluster idea that could actually be an opportunity for Maury and Miner IB families to join forces and create two great schools that then feed to the same middle school. But it sounds like the vision for greatness at Maury is as much about who they keep out (poor kids, SpEd kids, at risk kids) as what they actually do at the school, so they do not feel up to that taks with a much more racially and socioeconomically diverse population.

Can you in any way demonstrate or provide anything other than vibes a feels that the Maury and Miner could "join forces and create two great schools"?

Maury parents would be for it! Spoiler: There's nothing but vibes and feels.