MCPS covid cases

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Anonymous wrote:Listen, MCPS is in he'll right now. You parents need to ask your kids specific details like what classroom they were in today. I am a Para at a school in Gaithersburg. We had up to 12 teachers out at one point, 5 classes quarantined, triage and nurse rooms were full, kids throwing up or really sick everywhere at school, most without proper masks, a lot of classes were combined with other classes because there were no teacher or sub that day. Two quarantined classes got quarantined because of combining classes and covid cases popped up. The teachers are mainly out with sick or quarantined kids. They have kids too. Tensions are VERY high in schools. Everyone is on edge and burnt out. Behavior from kids is appalling: fights, getting cursed out, kids running out of schools and threats. Some kids have tantrums and scream for hours on end with staff standing in a circle to contain them. They are not Kinder or 1st either. Parents have absolutely no idea what goes on in these schools. The W schools are not too much better either. Virtual might be better.


No. Full stop.


So you think the chaos the poster described above is better for our kids? It will only get worse. The root of the problem is parents not taking any responsibility for trying to keep schools open by being safe with their families, wearing masks and taking measures to stay well, keeping kids hime when sick and taking the step to get them tested to make sure they are not asymptomatic. Schools cannot do that too. Do you really think your child will do great things in a chaotic environment like that describes above? But, let's keep them open and dysfunctional so that you and others that have no ethics or morals can get what you want.


I agree with you that in person but chaotic is not great, but disagree that the burden is totally on families - school system should have purchased and sent home rapid tests over Xmas (Boston just did this) and have more rapid tests available for pick up by families any time, plus they should test every child on entry back to school. If the school system organized saliva based pool testing by classroom daily, school would be a lot safer place.

Same with mask distribution - schools should be providing n-95s weekly to every student and sending more home for families.

It’s our own short-sightedness and scrooge mentality that prevents us from organizing society to pay for these things because of people’s preconceptions about what is capitalism and what is communism.


Cases are too high for pooled testing to work. There would be far too many positive tests, so they’d need many of the pools through individual PCRs to figure out which student needs to be sent home.

Rapid antigen testing has always been the real answer. Implement test-to-stay in classrooms with cases, including with vaccinated students. Stop using PCRs.


I could not agree with this more. The focus has got to shift to keeping as many kids in school as possible, rather than arbitrarily quarantining “close contacts” which vary from school to school. It’s a public policy issue at this point. It’s more important to keep kids, particularly those whose needs can’t be me virtually, in school. There are vaccines available to all school age kids and adults now. Either avail yourself of them or don’t.

Newsflash - large quarantines and school closures aren’t stemming the tide of covid at this point anyway. The greater risk is to the kids education and social emotional well-being by not being in school.


+100


Put 'em school. Go ahead. No problem if there aren't enough adults to drive the buses, serve lunch or teach. At least they are in school and their mental health will be stellar!! It's all about the building, not the people.


You're being deliberately obtuse. Of course it is about the people. That's why in-person is so critical. You can't have meaningful interactions between people- students, teachers, paraeducators, and therapists- with virtual classes.


You absolutely can have meaningful interactions with people virtually. Many students are still in virtual.

These don't have mental health issues due to covid. These kids had mental health issues long before covid and will have them long after. The mental health is just the talking point for parents who cannot handle being full time parents to their kids. They have them as something is off in their life and their parents need to get them help. Just sending them to in person school isn't the fix and the fix needs to come from the home/parents. School can be an escape, but again, these kids will never find true happiness with neglectful parents who refuse to be part of the solution.



One of the parents with “mental health talking points” is the Surgeon General. But what does he know? https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2021/12/07/us-surgeon-general-issues-advisory-on-youth-mental-health-crisis-further-exposed-by-covid-19-pandemic.html. Suicidal ideation is up 51% in girls age 12 and black kids are 3 times as likely to die of suicide as white kids. But you enjoy your bubble!


You can stop with the tired, manipulative But Suicide card playing now. Suicides were down SIGNIFICANTLY nationally during 2020 — you know, the bulk of the time that kids were in virtual.
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Anonymous wrote:Listen, MCPS is in he'll right now. You parents need to ask your kids specific details like what classroom they were in today. I am a Para at a school in Gaithersburg. We had up to 12 teachers out at one point, 5 classes quarantined, triage and nurse rooms were full, kids throwing up or really sick everywhere at school, most without proper masks, a lot of classes were combined with other classes because there were no teacher or sub that day. Two quarantined classes got quarantined because of combining classes and covid cases popped up. The teachers are mainly out with sick or quarantined kids. They have kids too. Tensions are VERY high in schools. Everyone is on edge and burnt out. Behavior from kids is appalling: fights, getting cursed out, kids running out of schools and threats. Some kids have tantrums and scream for hours on end with staff standing in a circle to contain them. They are not Kinder or 1st either. Parents have absolutely no idea what goes on in these schools. The W schools are not too much better either. Virtual might be better.


No. Full stop.


So you think the chaos the poster described above is better for our kids? It will only get worse. The root of the problem is parents not taking any responsibility for trying to keep schools open by being safe with their families, wearing masks and taking measures to stay well, keeping kids hime when sick and taking the step to get them tested to make sure they are not asymptomatic. Schools cannot do that too. Do you really think your child will do great things in a chaotic environment like that describes above? But, let's keep them open and dysfunctional so that you and others that have no ethics or morals can get what you want.


I agree with you that in person but chaotic is not great, but disagree that the burden is totally on families - school system should have purchased and sent home rapid tests over Xmas (Boston just did this) and have more rapid tests available for pick up by families any time, plus they should test every child on entry back to school. If the school system organized saliva based pool testing by classroom daily, school would be a lot safer place.

Same with mask distribution - schools should be providing n-95s weekly to every student and sending more home for families.

It’s our own short-sightedness and scrooge mentality that prevents us from organizing society to pay for these things because of people’s preconceptions about what is capitalism and what is communism.


It's absurd to expect schools to do everything, including provide masks. They should provide them to low income families but its not reasonable for them to buy every student an N95 per day.

Same with testing. As a parent, get your kid tested. Rapid tests can cause false positives and negatives. Your plan is a really bad one. The burden should be on the families. They are YOUR kids. Stop expecting others to parent your kids.


Agreed. Let parents do what they think is best for their own children. Let them pick masks according to their own risk tolerance, or choose to forgo masks entirely. As the pp said, the school shouldn't be testing students, either. Parents can get their kids tested if they think that is necessary under the circumstances, and if recommended by their children's doctors. Schools shouldn't be dictating those things.

Basically, do what we've always done in the past with other illnesses
.


You absolutely can make all those choices for yourself. Just do them while homeschooling,
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Anonymous wrote:Listen, MCPS is in he'll right now. You parents need to ask your kids specific details like what classroom they were in today. I am a Para at a school in Gaithersburg. We had up to 12 teachers out at one point, 5 classes quarantined, triage and nurse rooms were full, kids throwing up or really sick everywhere at school, most without proper masks, a lot of classes were combined with other classes because there were no teacher or sub that day. Two quarantined classes got quarantined because of combining classes and covid cases popped up. The teachers are mainly out with sick or quarantined kids. They have kids too. Tensions are VERY high in schools. Everyone is on edge and burnt out. Behavior from kids is appalling: fights, getting cursed out, kids running out of schools and threats. Some kids have tantrums and scream for hours on end with staff standing in a circle to contain them. They are not Kinder or 1st either. Parents have absolutely no idea what goes on in these schools. The W schools are not too much better either. Virtual might be better.


No. Full stop.


Yes. Full stop.


The PP might be right, but she didn't say *who* virtual would be better for. Better for MCPS administrators and teachers? Sure. Better for students? Clearly not.

The problems MCPS is experiencing are self-inflicted. If we stopped the practice of keeping teachers/students home for 10+ days at a time we wouldn't have the staffing problems they're running into.
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Anonymous wrote:It's absurd to expect schools to do everything, including provide masks. They should provide them to low income families but its not reasonable for them to buy every student an N95 per day.

Same with testing. As a parent, get your kid tested. Rapid tests can cause false positives and negatives. Your plan is a really bad one. The burden should be on the families. They are YOUR kids. Stop expecting others to parent your kids.

Agreed. Let parents do what they think is best for their own children. Let them pick masks according to their own risk tolerance, or choose to forgo masks entirely. As the pp said, the school shouldn't be testing students, either. Parents can get their kids tested if they think that is necessary under the circumstances, and if recommended by their children's doctors. Schools shouldn't be dictating those things.

Basically, do what we've always done in the past with other illnesses.

It may be unreasonable to expect schools to provide masks to all students, especially ones who are not low income. But the Hopkins website currently estimates that the death rate for Covid is about 10 times that for flu and Covid is transmissible for several days prior to being symptomatic, and with asymptomatic cases. It's pretty extreme to say that Covid should be treated the same as other illnesses.
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Anonymous wrote:Listen, MCPS is in he'll right now. You parents need to ask your kids specific details like what classroom they were in today. I am a Para at a school in Gaithersburg. We had up to 12 teachers out at one point, 5 classes quarantined, triage and nurse rooms were full, kids throwing up or really sick everywhere at school, most without proper masks, a lot of classes were combined with other classes because there were no teacher or sub that day. Two quarantined classes got quarantined because of combining classes and covid cases popped up. The teachers are mainly out with sick or quarantined kids. They have kids too. Tensions are VERY high in schools. Everyone is on edge and burnt out. Behavior from kids is appalling: fights, getting cursed out, kids running out of schools and threats. Some kids have tantrums and scream for hours on end with staff standing in a circle to contain them. They are not Kinder or 1st either. Parents have absolutely no idea what goes on in these schools. The W schools are not too much better either. Virtual might be better.


No. Full stop.


So you think the chaos the poster described above is better for our kids? It will only get worse. The root of the problem is parents not taking any responsibility for trying to keep schools open by being safe with their families, wearing masks and taking measures to stay well, keeping kids hime when sick and taking the step to get them tested to make sure they are not asymptomatic. Schools cannot do that too. Do you really think your child will do great things in a chaotic environment like that describes above? But, let's keep them open and dysfunctional so that you and others that have no ethics or morals can get what you want.


I agree with you that in person but chaotic is not great, but disagree that the burden is totally on families - school system should have purchased and sent home rapid tests over Xmas (Boston just did this) and have more rapid tests available for pick up by families any time, plus they should test every child on entry back to school. If the school system organized saliva based pool testing by classroom daily, school would be a lot safer place.

Same with mask distribution - schools should be providing n-95s weekly to every student and sending more home for families.

It’s our own short-sightedness and scrooge mentality that prevents us from organizing society to pay for these things because of people’s preconceptions about what is capitalism and what is communism.


It's absurd to expect schools to do everything, including provide masks. They should provide them to low income families but its not reasonable for them to buy every student an N95 per day.

Same with testing. As a parent, get your kid tested. Rapid tests can cause false positives and negatives. Your plan is a really bad one. The burden should be on the families. They are YOUR kids. Stop expecting others to parent your kids.


Agreed. Let parents do what they think is best for their own children. Let them pick masks according to their own risk tolerance, or choose to forgo masks entirely. As the pp said, the school shouldn't be testing students, either. Parents can get their kids tested if they think that is necessary under the circumstances, and if recommended by their children's doctors. Schools shouldn't be dictating those things.

Basically, do what we've always done in the past with other illnesses
.


You absolutely can make all those choices for yourself. Just do them while homeschooling,


Public education is a right under state and federal law. What isn't a right? Forcing others to feed your insatiable anxiety over COVID.
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Anonymous wrote:Listen, MCPS is in he'll right now. You parents need to ask your kids specific details like what classroom they were in today. I am a Para at a school in Gaithersburg. We had up to 12 teachers out at one point, 5 classes quarantined, triage and nurse rooms were full, kids throwing up or really sick everywhere at school, most without proper masks, a lot of classes were combined with other classes because there were no teacher or sub that day. Two quarantined classes got quarantined because of combining classes and covid cases popped up. The teachers are mainly out with sick or quarantined kids. They have kids too. Tensions are VERY high in schools. Everyone is on edge and burnt out. Behavior from kids is appalling: fights, getting cursed out, kids running out of schools and threats. Some kids have tantrums and scream for hours on end with staff standing in a circle to contain them. They are not Kinder or 1st either. Parents have absolutely no idea what goes on in these schools. The W schools are not too much better either. Virtual might be better.


No. Full stop.


So you think the chaos the poster described above is better for our kids? It will only get worse. The root of the problem is parents not taking any responsibility for trying to keep schools open by being safe with their families, wearing masks and taking measures to stay well, keeping kids hime when sick and taking the step to get them tested to make sure they are not asymptomatic. Schools cannot do that too. Do you really think your child will do great things in a chaotic environment like that describes above? But, let's keep them open and dysfunctional so that you and others that have no ethics or morals can get what you want.


I agree with you that in person but chaotic is not great, but disagree that the burden is totally on families - school system should have purchased and sent home rapid tests over Xmas (Boston just did this) and have more rapid tests available for pick up by families any time, plus they should test every child on entry back to school. If the school system organized saliva based pool testing by classroom daily, school would be a lot safer place.

Same with mask distribution - schools should be providing n-95s weekly to every student and sending more home for families.

It’s our own short-sightedness and scrooge mentality that prevents us from organizing society to pay for these things because of people’s preconceptions about what is capitalism and what is communism.


Cases are too high for pooled testing to work. There would be far too many positive tests, so they’d need many of the pools through individual PCRs to figure out which student needs to be sent home.

Rapid antigen testing has always been the real answer. Implement test-to-stay in classrooms with cases, including with vaccinated students. Stop using PCRs.


I could not agree with this more. The focus has got to shift to keeping as many kids in school as possible, rather than arbitrarily quarantining “close contacts” which vary from school to school. It’s a public policy issue at this point. It’s more important to keep kids, particularly those whose needs can’t be me virtually, in school. There are vaccines available to all school age kids and adults now. Either avail yourself of them or don’t.

Newsflash - large quarantines and school closures aren’t stemming the tide of covid at this point anyway. The greater risk is to the kids education and social emotional well-being by not being in school.


+100


Put 'em school. Go ahead. No problem if there aren't enough adults to drive the buses, serve lunch or teach. At least they are in school and their mental health will be stellar!! It's all about the building, not the people.


You're being deliberately obtuse. Of course it is about the people. That's why in-person is so critical. You can't have meaningful interactions between people- students, teachers, paraeducators, and therapists- with virtual classes.


You absolutely can have meaningful interactions with people virtually. Many students are still in virtual.

These don't have mental health issues due to covid. These kids had mental health issues long before covid and will have them long after. The mental health is just the talking point for parents who cannot handle being full time parents to their kids. They have them as something is off in their life and their parents need to get them help. Just sending them to in person school isn't the fix and the fix needs to come from the home/parents. School can be an escape, but again, these kids will never find true happiness with neglectful parents who refuse to be part of the solution.



One of the parents with “mental health talking points” is the Surgeon General. But what does he know? https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2021/12/07/us-surgeon-general-issues-advisory-on-youth-mental-health-crisis-further-exposed-by-covid-19-pandemic.html. Suicidal ideation is up 51% in girls age 12 and black kids are 3 times as likely to die of suicide as white kids. But you enjoy your bubble!


You can stop with the tired, manipulative But Suicide card playing now. Suicides were down SIGNIFICANTLY nationally during 2020 — you know, the bulk of the time that kids were in virtual.


They were up for children you dimwit. Significant increase for teenagers.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1270463

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7024e1.htm?s_cid=mm7024e1_w
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Anonymous wrote:Listen, MCPS is in he'll right now. You parents need to ask your kids specific details like what classroom they were in today. I am a Para at a school in Gaithersburg. We had up to 12 teachers out at one point, 5 classes quarantined, triage and nurse rooms were full, kids throwing up or really sick everywhere at school, most without proper masks, a lot of classes were combined with other classes because there were no teacher or sub that day. Two quarantined classes got quarantined because of combining classes and covid cases popped up. The teachers are mainly out with sick or quarantined kids. They have kids too. Tensions are VERY high in schools. Everyone is on edge and burnt out. Behavior from kids is appalling: fights, getting cursed out, kids running out of schools and threats. Some kids have tantrums and scream for hours on end with staff standing in a circle to contain them. They are not Kinder or 1st either. Parents have absolutely no idea what goes on in these schools. The W schools are not too much better either. Virtual might be better.


No. Full stop.


So you think the chaos the poster described above is better for our kids? It will only get worse. The root of the problem is parents not taking any responsibility for trying to keep schools open by being safe with their families, wearing masks and taking measures to stay well, keeping kids hime when sick and taking the step to get them tested to make sure they are not asymptomatic. Schools cannot do that too. Do you really think your child will do great things in a chaotic environment like that describes above? But, let's keep them open and dysfunctional so that you and others that have no ethics or morals can get what you want.


I agree with you that in person but chaotic is not great, but disagree that the burden is totally on families - school system should have purchased and sent home rapid tests over Xmas (Boston just did this) and have more rapid tests available for pick up by families any time, plus they should test every child on entry back to school. If the school system organized saliva based pool testing by classroom daily, school would be a lot safer place.

Same with mask distribution - schools should be providing n-95s weekly to every student and sending more home for families.

It’s our own short-sightedness and scrooge mentality that prevents us from organizing society to pay for these things because of people’s preconceptions about what is capitalism and what is communism.


It's absurd to expect schools to do everything, including provide masks. They should provide them to low income families but its not reasonable for them to buy every student an N95 per day.

Same with testing. As a parent, get your kid tested. Rapid tests can cause false positives and negatives. Your plan is a really bad one. The burden should be on the families. They are YOUR kids. Stop expecting others to parent your kids.


Agreed. Let parents do what they think is best for their own children. Let them pick masks according to their own risk tolerance, or choose to forgo masks entirely. As the pp said, the school shouldn't be testing students, either. Parents can get their kids tested if they think that is necessary under the circumstances, and if recommended by their children's doctors. Schools shouldn't be dictating those things.

Basically, do what we've always done in the past with other illnesses
.


You absolutely can make all those choices for yourself. Just do them while homeschooling,


Public education is a right under state and federal law. What isn't a right? Forcing others to feed your insatiable anxiety over COVID.


Public education is a right. In person education is not. You should get some help with your anxiety on having to have your kids home during the day and interact with them. If you are not concerned about Covid something is wrong.
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Anonymous wrote:Listen, MCPS is in he'll right now. You parents need to ask your kids specific details like what classroom they were in today. I am a Para at a school in Gaithersburg. We had up to 12 teachers out at one point, 5 classes quarantined, triage and nurse rooms were full, kids throwing up or really sick everywhere at school, most without proper masks, a lot of classes were combined with other classes because there were no teacher or sub that day. Two quarantined classes got quarantined because of combining classes and covid cases popped up. The teachers are mainly out with sick or quarantined kids. They have kids too. Tensions are VERY high in schools. Everyone is on edge and burnt out. Behavior from kids is appalling: fights, getting cursed out, kids running out of schools and threats. Some kids have tantrums and scream for hours on end with staff standing in a circle to contain them. They are not Kinder or 1st either. Parents have absolutely no idea what goes on in these schools. The W schools are not too much better either. Virtual might be better.


No. Full stop.


So you think the chaos the poster described above is better for our kids? It will only get worse. The root of the problem is parents not taking any responsibility for trying to keep schools open by being safe with their families, wearing masks and taking measures to stay well, keeping kids hime when sick and taking the step to get them tested to make sure they are not asymptomatic. Schools cannot do that too. Do you really think your child will do great things in a chaotic environment like that describes above? But, let's keep them open and dysfunctional so that you and others that have no ethics or morals can get what you want.


I agree with you that in person but chaotic is not great, but disagree that the burden is totally on families - school system should have purchased and sent home rapid tests over Xmas (Boston just did this) and have more rapid tests available for pick up by families any time, plus they should test every child on entry back to school. If the school system organized saliva based pool testing by classroom daily, school would be a lot safer place.

Same with mask distribution - schools should be providing n-95s weekly to every student and sending more home for families.

It’s our own short-sightedness and scrooge mentality that prevents us from organizing society to pay for these things because of people’s preconceptions about what is capitalism and what is communism.


Cases are too high for pooled testing to work. There would be far too many positive tests, so they’d need many of the pools through individual PCRs to figure out which student needs to be sent home.

Rapid antigen testing has always been the real answer. Implement test-to-stay in classrooms with cases, including with vaccinated students. Stop using PCRs.


I could not agree with this more. The focus has got to shift to keeping as many kids in school as possible, rather than arbitrarily quarantining “close contacts” which vary from school to school. It’s a public policy issue at this point. It’s more important to keep kids, particularly those whose needs can’t be me virtually, in school. There are vaccines available to all school age kids and adults now. Either avail yourself of them or don’t.

Newsflash - large quarantines and school closures aren’t stemming the tide of covid at this point anyway. The greater risk is to the kids education and social emotional well-being by not being in school.


+100


Put 'em school. Go ahead. No problem if there aren't enough adults to drive the buses, serve lunch or teach. At least they are in school and their mental health will be stellar!! It's all about the building, not the people.


You're being deliberately obtuse. Of course it is about the people. That's why in-person is so critical. You can't have meaningful interactions between people- students, teachers, paraeducators, and therapists- with virtual classes.


You absolutely can have meaningful interactions with people virtually. Many students are still in virtual.

These don't have mental health issues due to covid. These kids had mental health issues long before covid and will have them long after. The mental health is just the talking point for parents who cannot handle being full time parents to their kids. They have them as something is off in their life and their parents need to get them help. Just sending them to in person school isn't the fix and the fix needs to come from the home/parents. School can be an escape, but again, these kids will never find true happiness with neglectful parents who refuse to be part of the solution.



One of the parents with “mental health talking points” is the Surgeon General. But what does he know? https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2021/12/07/us-surgeon-general-issues-advisory-on-youth-mental-health-crisis-further-exposed-by-covid-19-pandemic.html. Suicidal ideation is up 51% in girls age 12 and black kids are 3 times as likely to die of suicide as white kids. But you enjoy your bubble!


You can stop with the tired, manipulative But Suicide card playing now. Suicides were down SIGNIFICANTLY nationally during 2020 — you know, the bulk of the time that kids were in virtual.


They were up for children you dimwit. Significant increase for teenagers.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1270463

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7024e1.htm?s_cid=mm7024e1_w


They are not up. It’s now more socially acceptable to talk about it. What are you doing to help your child with their mental? Did you fail your child so your fix is to preach to others?
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Anonymous wrote:Listen, MCPS is in he'll right now. You parents need to ask your kids specific details like what classroom they were in today. I am a Para at a school in Gaithersburg. We had up to 12 teachers out at one point, 5 classes quarantined, triage and nurse rooms were full, kids throwing up or really sick everywhere at school, most without proper masks, a lot of classes were combined with other classes because there were no teacher or sub that day. Two quarantined classes got quarantined because of combining classes and covid cases popped up. The teachers are mainly out with sick or quarantined kids. They have kids too. Tensions are VERY high in schools. Everyone is on edge and burnt out. Behavior from kids is appalling: fights, getting cursed out, kids running out of schools and threats. Some kids have tantrums and scream for hours on end with staff standing in a circle to contain them. They are not Kinder or 1st either. Parents have absolutely no idea what goes on in these schools. The W schools are not too much better either. Virtual might be better.


No. Full stop.


So you think the chaos the poster described above is better for our kids? It will only get worse. The root of the problem is parents not taking any responsibility for trying to keep schools open by being safe with their families, wearing masks and taking measures to stay well, keeping kids hime when sick and taking the step to get them tested to make sure they are not asymptomatic. Schools cannot do that too. Do you really think your child will do great things in a chaotic environment like that describes above? But, let's keep them open and dysfunctional so that you and others that have no ethics or morals can get what you want.


I agree with you that in person but chaotic is not great, but disagree that the burden is totally on families - school system should have purchased and sent home rapid tests over Xmas (Boston just did this) and have more rapid tests available for pick up by families any time, plus they should test every child on entry back to school. If the school system organized saliva based pool testing by classroom daily, school would be a lot safer place.

Same with mask distribution - schools should be providing n-95s weekly to every student and sending more home for families.

It’s our own short-sightedness and scrooge mentality that prevents us from organizing society to pay for these things because of people’s preconceptions about what is capitalism and what is communism.


It's absurd to expect schools to do everything, including provide masks. They should provide them to low income families but its not reasonable for them to buy every student an N95 per day.

Same with testing. As a parent, get your kid tested. Rapid tests can cause false positives and negatives. Your plan is a really bad one. The burden should be on the families. They are YOUR kids. Stop expecting others to parent your kids.


Agreed. Let parents do what they think is best for their own children. Let them pick masks according to their own risk tolerance, or choose to forgo masks entirely. As the pp said, the school shouldn't be testing students, either. Parents can get their kids tested if they think that is necessary under the circumstances, and if recommended by their children's doctors. Schools shouldn't be dictating those things.

Basically, do what we've always done in the past with other illnesses
.


You absolutely can make all those choices for yourself. Just do them while homeschooling,


Public education is a right under state and federal law. What isn't a right? Forcing others to feed your insatiable anxiety over COVID.


Public education is a right. In person education is not. You should get some help with your anxiety on having to have your kids home during the day and interact with them. If you are not concerned about Covid something is wrong.[/quote




Actually, MSDE requires 180 inperson days.
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Anonymous wrote:It's absurd to expect schools to do everything, including provide masks. They should provide them to low income families but its not reasonable for them to buy every student an N95 per day.

Same with testing. As a parent, get your kid tested. Rapid tests can cause false positives and negatives. Your plan is a really bad one. The burden should be on the families. They are YOUR kids. Stop expecting others to parent your kids.

Agreed. Let parents do what they think is best for their own children. Let them pick masks according to their own risk tolerance, or choose to forgo masks entirely. As the pp said, the school shouldn't be testing students, either. Parents can get their kids tested if they think that is necessary under the circumstances, and if recommended by their children's doctors. Schools shouldn't be dictating those things.

Basically, do what we've always done in the past with other illnesses.

It may be unreasonable to expect schools to provide masks to all students, especially ones who are not low income. But the Hopkins website currently estimates that the death rate for Covid is about 10 times that for flu and Covid is transmissible for several days prior to being symptomatic, and with asymptomatic cases. It's pretty extreme to say that Covid should be treated the same as other illnesses.


10x higher in unvaccinated populations. The COVID vaccines are more effective than the flu vaccines- particularly this year.
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Anonymous wrote:Listen, MCPS is in he'll right now. You parents need to ask your kids specific details like what classroom they were in today. I am a Para at a school in Gaithersburg. We had up to 12 teachers out at one point, 5 classes quarantined, triage and nurse rooms were full, kids throwing up or really sick everywhere at school, most without proper masks, a lot of classes were combined with other classes because there were no teacher or sub that day. Two quarantined classes got quarantined because of combining classes and covid cases popped up. The teachers are mainly out with sick or quarantined kids. They have kids too. Tensions are VERY high in schools. Everyone is on edge and burnt out. Behavior from kids is appalling: fights, getting cursed out, kids running out of schools and threats. Some kids have tantrums and scream for hours on end with staff standing in a circle to contain them. They are not Kinder or 1st either. Parents have absolutely no idea what goes on in these schools. The W schools are not too much better either. Virtual might be better.


No. Full stop.


So you think the chaos the poster described above is better for our kids? It will only get worse. The root of the problem is parents not taking any responsibility for trying to keep schools open by being safe with their families, wearing masks and taking measures to stay well, keeping kids hime when sick and taking the step to get them tested to make sure they are not asymptomatic. Schools cannot do that too. Do you really think your child will do great things in a chaotic environment like that describes above? But, let's keep them open and dysfunctional so that you and others that have no ethics or morals can get what you want.


I agree with you that in person but chaotic is not great, but disagree that the burden is totally on families - school system should have purchased and sent home rapid tests over Xmas (Boston just did this) and have more rapid tests available for pick up by families any time, plus they should test every child on entry back to school. If the school system organized saliva based pool testing by classroom daily, school would be a lot safer place.

Same with mask distribution - schools should be providing n-95s weekly to every student and sending more home for families.

It’s our own short-sightedness and scrooge mentality that prevents us from organizing society to pay for these things because of people’s preconceptions about what is capitalism and what is communism.


Cases are too high for pooled testing to work. There would be far too many positive tests, so they’d need many of the pools through individual PCRs to figure out which student needs to be sent home.

Rapid antigen testing has always been the real answer. Implement test-to-stay in classrooms with cases, including with vaccinated students. Stop using PCRs.


I could not agree with this more. The focus has got to shift to keeping as many kids in school as possible, rather than arbitrarily quarantining “close contacts” which vary from school to school. It’s a public policy issue at this point. It’s more important to keep kids, particularly those whose needs can’t be me virtually, in school. There are vaccines available to all school age kids and adults now. Either avail yourself of them or don’t.

Newsflash - large quarantines and school closures aren’t stemming the tide of covid at this point anyway. The greater risk is to the kids education and social emotional well-being by not being in school.


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Put 'em school. Go ahead. No problem if there aren't enough adults to drive the buses, serve lunch or teach. At least they are in school and their mental health will be stellar!! It's all about the building, not the people.


You're being deliberately obtuse. Of course it is about the people. That's why in-person is so critical. You can't have meaningful interactions between people- students, teachers, paraeducators, and therapists- with virtual classes.


You absolutely can have meaningful interactions with people virtually. Many students are still in virtual.

These don't have mental health issues due to covid. These kids had mental health issues long before covid and will have them long after. The mental health is just the talking point for parents who cannot handle being full time parents to their kids. They have them as something is off in their life and their parents need to get them help. Just sending them to in person school isn't the fix and the fix needs to come from the home/parents. School can be an escape, but again, these kids will never find true happiness with neglectful parents who refuse to be part of the solution.



One of the parents with “mental health talking points” is the Surgeon General. But what does he know? https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2021/12/07/us-surgeon-general-issues-advisory-on-youth-mental-health-crisis-further-exposed-by-covid-19-pandemic.html. Suicidal ideation is up 51% in girls age 12 and black kids are 3 times as likely to die of suicide as white kids. But you enjoy your bubble!


You can stop with the tired, manipulative But Suicide card playing now. Suicides were down SIGNIFICANTLY nationally during 2020 — you know, the bulk of the time that kids were in virtual.


They were up for children you dimwit. Significant increase for teenagers.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1270463

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7024e1.htm?s_cid=mm7024e1_w


They are not up. It’s now more socially acceptable to talk about it. What are you doing to help your child with their mental? Did you fail your child so your fix is to preach to others?


Apparently your parents failed to teach you empathy in addition to relying heavily on in person public education they failed to teach you reading comprehension. If only they were good and thoughtful parents, they would have spent more time with you, hired tutors, and taught you how to click on links and understand the meaning of the written word. . If only virtual options were around when you were growing up. Your sociopathic self would be separated from society and hopefully not allowed to procreate and make more sociopathic children. Alas, there was no virtual school and you were unleashed on society.

Learn to read…ER visits for suicide attempts for girls are up 50% from 2019.


Summary
What is already known about this topic?

During 2020, the proportion of mental health–related emergency department (ED) visits among adolescents aged 12–17 years increased 31% compared with that during 2019.

What is added by this report?

In May 2020, during the COVID-19 pandemic, ED visits for suspected suicide attempts began to increase among adolescents aged 12–17 years, especially girls. During February 21–March 20, 2021, suspected suicide attempt ED visits were 50.6% higher among girls aged 12–17 years than during the same period in 2019; among boys aged 12–17 years, suspected suicide attempt ED visits increased 3.7%.

What are the implications for public health practice?

Suicide prevention requires a comprehensive approach that is adapted during times of infrastructure disruption, involves multisectoral partnerships and implements evidence-based strategies to address the range of factors influencing suicide risk.
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Anonymous wrote:Listen, MCPS is in he'll right now. You parents need to ask your kids specific details like what classroom they were in today. I am a Para at a school in Gaithersburg. We had up to 12 teachers out at one point, 5 classes quarantined, triage and nurse rooms were full, kids throwing up or really sick everywhere at school, most without proper masks, a lot of classes were combined with other classes because there were no teacher or sub that day. Two quarantined classes got quarantined because of combining classes and covid cases popped up. The teachers are mainly out with sick or quarantined kids. They have kids too. Tensions are VERY high in schools. Everyone is on edge and burnt out. Behavior from kids is appalling: fights, getting cursed out, kids running out of schools and threats. Some kids have tantrums and scream for hours on end with staff standing in a circle to contain them. They are not Kinder or 1st either. Parents have absolutely no idea what goes on in these schools. The W schools are not too much better either. Virtual might be better.


No. Full stop.


So you think the chaos the poster described above is better for our kids? It will only get worse. The root of the problem is parents not taking any responsibility for trying to keep schools open by being safe with their families, wearing masks and taking measures to stay well, keeping kids hime when sick and taking the step to get them tested to make sure they are not asymptomatic. Schools cannot do that too. Do you really think your child will do great things in a chaotic environment like that describes above? But, let's keep them open and dysfunctional so that you and others that have no ethics or morals can get what you want.


I agree with you that in person but chaotic is not great, but disagree that the burden is totally on families - school system should have purchased and sent home rapid tests over Xmas (Boston just did this) and have more rapid tests available for pick up by families any time, plus they should test every child on entry back to school. If the school system organized saliva based pool testing by classroom daily, school would be a lot safer place.

Same with mask distribution - schools should be providing n-95s weekly to every student and sending more home for families.

It’s our own short-sightedness and scrooge mentality that prevents us from organizing society to pay for these things because of people’s preconceptions about what is capitalism and what is communism.


Cases are too high for pooled testing to work. There would be far too many positive tests, so they’d need many of the pools through individual PCRs to figure out which student needs to be sent home.

Rapid antigen testing has always been the real answer. Implement test-to-stay in classrooms with cases, including with vaccinated students. Stop using PCRs.


I could not agree with this more. The focus has got to shift to keeping as many kids in school as possible, rather than arbitrarily quarantining “close contacts” which vary from school to school. It’s a public policy issue at this point. It’s more important to keep kids, particularly those whose needs can’t be me virtually, in school. There are vaccines available to all school age kids and adults now. Either avail yourself of them or don’t.

Newsflash - large quarantines and school closures aren’t stemming the tide of covid at this point anyway. The greater risk is to the kids education and social emotional well-being by not being in school.


+100


Put 'em school. Go ahead. No problem if there aren't enough adults to drive the buses, serve lunch or teach. At least they are in school and their mental health will be stellar!! It's all about the building, not the people.


You're being deliberately obtuse. Of course it is about the people. That's why in-person is so critical. You can't have meaningful interactions between people- students, teachers, paraeducators, and therapists- with virtual classes.


You absolutely can have meaningful interactions with people virtually. Many students are still in virtual.

These don't have mental health issues due to covid. These kids had mental health issues long before covid and will have them long after. The mental health is just the talking point for parents who cannot handle being full time parents to their kids. They have them as something is off in their life and their parents need to get them help. Just sending them to in person school isn't the fix and the fix needs to come from the home/parents. School can be an escape, but again, these kids will never find true happiness with neglectful parents who refuse to be part of the solution.



One of the parents with “mental health talking points” is the Surgeon General. But what does he know? https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2021/12/07/us-surgeon-general-issues-advisory-on-youth-mental-health-crisis-further-exposed-by-covid-19-pandemic.html. Suicidal ideation is up 51% in girls age 12 and black kids are 3 times as likely to die of suicide as white kids. But you enjoy your bubble!


You can stop with the tired, manipulative But Suicide card playing now. Suicides were down SIGNIFICANTLY nationally during 2020 — you know, the bulk of the time that kids were in virtual.


They were up for children you dimwit. Significant increase for teenagers.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1270463

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7024e1.htm?s_cid=mm7024e1_w


They are not up. It’s now more socially acceptable to talk about it. What are you doing to help your child with their mental? Did you fail your child so your fix is to preach to others?


Apparently your parents failed to teach you empathy in addition to relying heavily on in person public education they failed to teach you reading comprehension. If only they were good and thoughtful parents, they would have spent more time with you, hired tutors, and taught you how to click on links and understand the meaning of the written word. . If only virtual options were around when you were growing up. Your sociopathic self would be separated from society and hopefully not allowed to procreate and make more sociopathic children. Alas, there was no virtual school and you were unleashed on society.

Learn to read…ER visits for suicide attempts for girls are up 50% from 2019.


Summary
What is already known about this topic?

During 2020, the proportion of mental health–related emergency department (ED) visits among adolescents aged 12–17 years increased 31% compared with that during 2019.

What is added by this report?

In May 2020, during the COVID-19 pandemic, ED visits for suspected suicide attempts began to increase among adolescents aged 12–17 years, especially girls. During February 21–March 20, 2021, suspected suicide attempt ED visits were 50.6% higher among girls aged 12–17 years than during the same period in 2019; among boys aged 12–17 years, suspected suicide attempt ED visits increased 3.7%.

What are the implications for public health practice?

Suicide prevention requires a comprehensive approach that is adapted during times of infrastructure disruption, involves multisectoral partnerships and implements evidence-based strategies to address the range of factors influencing suicide risk.


Get your kid mental health treatment and you therapy to fix what is going on in your home. Schools educate. Thayer cannot fix all problems. What this means is a lot of kids home life sucks.
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Anonymous wrote:It's absurd to expect schools to do everything, including provide masks. They should provide them to low income families but its not reasonable for them to buy every student an N95 per day.

Same with testing. As a parent, get your kid tested. Rapid tests can cause false positives and negatives. Your plan is a really bad one. The burden should be on the families. They are YOUR kids. Stop expecting others to parent your kids.

Agreed. Let parents do what they think is best for their own children. Let them pick masks according to their own risk tolerance, or choose to forgo masks entirely. As the pp said, the school shouldn't be testing students, either. Parents can get their kids tested if they think that is necessary under the circumstances, and if recommended by their children's doctors. Schools shouldn't be dictating those things.

Basically, do what we've always done in the past with other illnesses.

It may be unreasonable to expect schools to provide masks to all students, especially ones who are not low income. But the Hopkins website currently estimates that the death rate for Covid is about 10 times that for flu and Covid is transmissible for several days prior to being symptomatic, and with asymptomatic cases. It's pretty extreme to say that Covid should be treated the same as other illnesses.


10x higher in unvaccinated populations. The COVID vaccines are more effective than the flu vaccines- particularly this year.


Mcps has a highly vaccinated population and yet we are having outbreaks.
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Anonymous wrote:Listen, MCPS is in he'll right now. You parents need to ask your kids specific details like what classroom they were in today. I am a Para at a school in Gaithersburg. We had up to 12 teachers out at one point, 5 classes quarantined, triage and nurse rooms were full, kids throwing up or really sick everywhere at school, most without proper masks, a lot of classes were combined with other classes because there were no teacher or sub that day. Two quarantined classes got quarantined because of combining classes and covid cases popped up. The teachers are mainly out with sick or quarantined kids. They have kids too. Tensions are VERY high in schools. Everyone is on edge and burnt out. Behavior from kids is appalling: fights, getting cursed out, kids running out of schools and threats. Some kids have tantrums and scream for hours on end with staff standing in a circle to contain them. They are not Kinder or 1st either. Parents have absolutely no idea what goes on in these schools. The W schools are not too much better either. Virtual might be better.


No. Full stop.


So you think the chaos the poster described above is better for our kids? It will only get worse. The root of the problem is parents not taking any responsibility for trying to keep schools open by being safe with their families, wearing masks and taking measures to stay well, keeping kids hime when sick and taking the step to get them tested to make sure they are not asymptomatic. Schools cannot do that too. Do you really think your child will do great things in a chaotic environment like that describes above? But, let's keep them open and dysfunctional so that you and others that have no ethics or morals can get what you want.


I agree with you that in person but chaotic is not great, but disagree that the burden is totally on families - school system should have purchased and sent home rapid tests over Xmas (Boston just did this) and have more rapid tests available for pick up by families any time, plus they should test every child on entry back to school. If the school system organized saliva based pool testing by classroom daily, school would be a lot safer place.

Same with mask distribution - schools should be providing n-95s weekly to every student and sending more home for families.

It’s our own short-sightedness and scrooge mentality that prevents us from organizing society to pay for these things because of people’s preconceptions about what is capitalism and what is communism.


It's absurd to expect schools to do everything, including provide masks. They should provide them to low income families but its not reasonable for them to buy every student an N95 per day.

Same with testing. As a parent, get your kid tested. Rapid tests can cause false positives and negatives. Your plan is a really bad one. The burden should be on the families. They are YOUR kids. Stop expecting others to parent your kids.


Agreed. Let parents do what they think is best for their own children. Let them pick masks according to their own risk tolerance, or choose to forgo masks entirely. As the pp said, the school shouldn't be testing students, either. Parents can get their kids tested if they think that is necessary under the circumstances, and if recommended by their children's doctors. Schools shouldn't be dictating those things.

Basically, do what we've always done in the past with other illnesses
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You absolutely can make all those choices for yourself. Just do them while homeschooling,


Public education is a right under state and federal law. What isn't a right? Forcing others to feed your insatiable anxiety over COVID.


Public education is a right. In person education is not. You should get some help with your anxiety on having to have your kids home during the day and interact with them. If you are not concerned about Covid something is wrong.[/quote




Actually, MSDE requires 180 inperson days.


It requires 180 days of school. It clearly supports virtual as 3000 kids in mcps are doing virtual.
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Anonymous wrote:Listen, MCPS is in he'll right now. You parents need to ask your kids specific details like what classroom they were in today. I am a Para at a school in Gaithersburg. We had up to 12 teachers out at one point, 5 classes quarantined, triage and nurse rooms were full, kids throwing up or really sick everywhere at school, most without proper masks, a lot of classes were combined with other classes because there were no teacher or sub that day. Two quarantined classes got quarantined because of combining classes and covid cases popped up. The teachers are mainly out with sick or quarantined kids. They have kids too. Tensions are VERY high in schools. Everyone is on edge and burnt out. Behavior from kids is appalling: fights, getting cursed out, kids running out of schools and threats. Some kids have tantrums and scream for hours on end with staff standing in a circle to contain them. They are not Kinder or 1st either. Parents have absolutely no idea what goes on in these schools. The W schools are not too much better either. Virtual might be better.


No. Full stop.


So you think the chaos the poster described above is better for our kids? It will only get worse. The root of the problem is parents not taking any responsibility for trying to keep schools open by being safe with their families, wearing masks and taking measures to stay well, keeping kids hime when sick and taking the step to get them tested to make sure they are not asymptomatic. Schools cannot do that too. Do you really think your child will do great things in a chaotic environment like that describes above? But, let's keep them open and dysfunctional so that you and others that have no ethics or morals can get what you want.


I agree with you that in person but chaotic is not great, but disagree that the burden is totally on families - school system should have purchased and sent home rapid tests over Xmas (Boston just did this) and have more rapid tests available for pick up by families any time, plus they should test every child on entry back to school. If the school system organized saliva based pool testing by classroom daily, school would be a lot safer place.

Same with mask distribution - schools should be providing n-95s weekly to every student and sending more home for families.

It’s our own short-sightedness and scrooge mentality that prevents us from organizing society to pay for these things because of people’s preconceptions about what is capitalism and what is communism.


Cases are too high for pooled testing to work. There would be far too many positive tests, so they’d need many of the pools through individual PCRs to figure out which student needs to be sent home.

Rapid antigen testing has always been the real answer. Implement test-to-stay in classrooms with cases, including with vaccinated students. Stop using PCRs.


I could not agree with this more. The focus has got to shift to keeping as many kids in school as possible, rather than arbitrarily quarantining “close contacts” which vary from school to school. It’s a public policy issue at this point. It’s more important to keep kids, particularly those whose needs can’t be me virtually, in school. There are vaccines available to all school age kids and adults now. Either avail yourself of them or don’t.

Newsflash - large quarantines and school closures aren’t stemming the tide of covid at this point anyway. The greater risk is to the kids education and social emotional well-being by not being in school.


+100


Put 'em school. Go ahead. No problem if there aren't enough adults to drive the buses, serve lunch or teach. At least they are in school and their mental health will be stellar!! It's all about the building, not the people.


You're being deliberately obtuse. Of course it is about the people. That's why in-person is so critical. You can't have meaningful interactions between people- students, teachers, paraeducators, and therapists- with virtual classes.


You absolutely can have meaningful interactions with people virtually. Many students are still in virtual.

These don't have mental health issues due to covid. These kids had mental health issues long before covid and will have them long after. The mental health is just the talking point for parents who cannot handle being full time parents to their kids. They have them as something is off in their life and their parents need to get them help. Just sending them to in person school isn't the fix and the fix needs to come from the home/parents. School can be an escape, but again, these kids will never find true happiness with neglectful parents who refuse to be part of the solution.



One of the parents with “mental health talking points” is the Surgeon General. But what does he know? https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2021/12/07/us-surgeon-general-issues-advisory-on-youth-mental-health-crisis-further-exposed-by-covid-19-pandemic.html. Suicidal ideation is up 51% in girls age 12 and black kids are 3 times as likely to die of suicide as white kids. But you enjoy your bubble!


You can stop with the tired, manipulative But Suicide card playing now. Suicides were down SIGNIFICANTLY nationally during 2020 — you know, the bulk of the time that kids were in virtual.


They were up for children you dimwit. Significant increase for teenagers.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1270463

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7024e1.htm?s_cid=mm7024e1_w


They are not up. It’s now more socially acceptable to talk about it. What are you doing to help your child with their mental? Did you fail your child so your fix is to preach to others?


Apparently your parents failed to teach you empathy in addition to relying heavily on in person public education they failed to teach you reading comprehension. If only they were good and thoughtful parents, they would have spent more time with you, hired tutors, and taught you how to click on links and understand the meaning of the written word. . If only virtual options were around when you were growing up. Your sociopathic self would be separated from society and hopefully not allowed to procreate and make more sociopathic children. Alas, there was no virtual school and you were unleashed on society.

Learn to read…ER visits for suicide attempts for girls are up 50% from 2019.


Summary
What is already known about this topic?

During 2020, the proportion of mental health–related emergency department (ED) visits among adolescents aged 12–17 years increased 31% compared with that during 2019.

What is added by this report?

In May 2020, during the COVID-19 pandemic, ED visits for suspected suicide attempts began to increase among adolescents aged 12–17 years, especially girls. During February 21–March 20, 2021, suspected suicide attempt ED visits were 50.6% higher among girls aged 12–17 years than during the same period in 2019; among boys aged 12–17 years, suspected suicide attempt ED visits increased 3.7%.

What are the implications for public health practice?

Suicide prevention requires a comprehensive approach that is adapted during times of infrastructure disruption, involves multisectoral partnerships and implements evidence-based strategies to address the range of factors influencing suicide risk.


Sweden actually did a study on this:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.12.21267684v1

Interpretation Closing upper-secondary schools in Sweden reduced use of mental healthcare services. There is no indication of this being due to reduced accessibility. In a setting with no strict lockdown, moving to online teaching for a limited period did not worsen mental health among students in upper-secondary schools.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/psych-unseen/202107/suicide-in-the-pandemic-prediction-didnt-come-true

https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/second-opinions/93120

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