Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I think “guys, I’m pregnant and I’ve just finished my 12-hour shift” would have been better than “help! help!”
But this has been blown out of proportion.


You wouldn’t have said that were you her.
You can act like you’d have had perfect presence of mind after a 12-hr shift at Bellevue while pregnant and after this kicked off with them recording.

Who, exactly, is blowing this out of proportion? The people taking pictures of her front door, or calling her a racist, or the people appalled by those acts?


Everyone, myself included.
Anonymous
Did the young men believe they had already reserved the bike she was on? I think her attorney said that the guys told her they had reserved that bike when she was pulling out. Was it a big misunderstanding on their part? If not, and they purposefully took a bike they knew they had not reserved, then why is her attorney not going after them?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It looks like the person who doxxed her is an influencer in Los Angeles who has doxxed people before. His Twitter account is suspended now, not sure about TikTok. The entire Twitter thread below is disturbing.



I appreciate that the twitter account owner exposing all this calls himself Leftism and his account reflects it. Disgust at this incident goes across the political spectrum.

- lefty


+1, I would like to see more people on the left speak up against this kind of behavior. Not just the doxxing, but posting videos like this with the express purpose of stirring up racial controversy, stirring up internet mobs into a frenzy over situations you don't understand, etc.

One thing this case has exposed for me is these social media grifters like @thatdaneshguy and Monique Judge who appear to be making a living off of stirring up outrage online and then posting/writing about. I guess if I ever thought too hard about it I might have recognized these people exist, but I'm not sufficiently "online" to haver realized it was a whole category of person/influencer. I'm going to be more educated about that going forward and when I do go on Twitter or other social media (including DCUM) I will be more careful about making sure I don't get pulled in by these people. I'm horrified by the damage they can do.

But I do wish we saw more people on the left speaking up on this case. I'm a little disappointed that her lawyer's one tv interview was on Fox -- I'm guessing they reached out to multiple venues and Fox was eager to have them on because they liked the angle ("accused Karen actually the victim") but since I'm genuinely convinced of the injustice in this case, I'd love it if more mainstream media and leftist/progressive sources were speaking up.
Anonymous
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I don’t think people thought she was actually trying to rob the kids because that’s asinine. I thought it was more of a situation where she thought it was hers and wouldn’t listen to the boys saying she was wrong. People refuse to admit they’re wrong ALL the time (look at this thread lol).

It appears based on receipts and her lawyer’s statement that I misinterpreted the situation and I’m willing to admit that.


Question for you: do you truly believe that a significantly pregnant women coming off a work shift, would challenge a group of older male teens or adult men surrounding her? Really? In what world would that ever make sense?

I know literally no women who would not be terrified for their lives in that situation. Pregnant, surrounded by angry men? That’s objectively terrifying. And you don’t any women who wouldn’t be terrified either, if you are honest with yourself. You believed the initial take, the men, because of deeply ingrained and adopted misogyny that teaches you that scared women are “hysterical” and their tears are faked.

You didn’t misinterpret anything: you acted and believed according to your misogynist belief system which will always, always discredit the woman. Your response was precisely inline with what your belief system is, and that belief system discredits women.

Be honest with yourself.


I would not describe that video as a group of angry men surrounding her. Nor did she appear at all terrified for her life, nor would I be . Frustrated and annoyed - yes. It was a dispute with one young man trying to hold or take the bike that lasted a short time while another video'ed. She then turns her back to the young man as she lets go and seems to decide to use another bike. We only only know a certain % of the whole story. Describing that video as an angry group of men surrounding her and making her terrified for her life is really no different from describing her as a Karen.


It is fascinating how much people contort themselves and hard facts right in front of them to avoid facing difficult truths about who they are. Really remarkable to see in action.

Consider examining just how deep your misogyny runs.


Consider how deep your racism runs. And your contortions to ignore facts and to interpret them through your lens. If these black boys were white females, you would not be describing them as an angry group surrounding and terrifying a person and making that person fear for their lives.

I don't think the boys / men were in the right. She has receipts and has been appallingly treated online. I also don't think that makes them an angry group of black men surrounding and terrifying a woman.


They definitely weren’t angry. If anything they saw it as a joke. And she wasn’t terrified because there was nothing to be terrified of.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think “guys, I’m pregnant and I’ve just finished my 12-hour shift” would have been better than “help! help!”
But this has been blown out of proportion.


You wouldn’t have said that were you her.
You can act like you’d have had perfect presence of mind after a 12-hr shift at Bellevue while pregnant and after this kicked off with them recording.

Who, exactly, is blowing this out of proportion? The people taking pictures of her front door, or calling her a racist, or the people appalled by those acts?


Everyone, myself included.


No. Not everyone.

She was repeatedly accused of “trying to get those young men killed” in this thread, on Twitter by blue-checks with very large followings, and by one of her neighbors who doesn’t actually know this woman, was accosted at their mutual building (with the borough identified in the broadcast with the exterior shown) and was shown a fragment of the video.

That is all awful. There is awfulness to it that I was not aware of even yesterday. This incident has reached to this woman’s work, her home, her spouse, and to her online presence. It’s a pretty deft attempt to completely destroy someone’s life.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Truth.



I don’t think people thought she was actually trying to rob the kids because that’s asinine. I thought it was more of a situation where she thought it was hers and wouldn’t listen to the boys saying she was wrong. People refuse to admit they’re wrong ALL the time (look at this thread lol).

It appears based on receipts and her lawyer’s statement that I misinterpreted the situation and I’m willing to admit that.


Question for you: do you truly believe that a significantly pregnant women coming off a work shift, would challenge a group of older male teens or adult men surrounding her? Really? In what world would that ever make sense?

I know literally no women who would not be terrified for their lives in that situation. Pregnant, surrounded by angry men? That’s objectively terrifying. And you don’t any women who wouldn’t be terrified either, if you are honest with yourself. You believed the initial take, the men, because of deeply ingrained and adopted misogyny that teaches you that scared women are “hysterical” and their tears are faked.

You didn’t misinterpret anything: you acted and believed according to your misogynist belief system which will always, always discredit the woman. Your response was precisely inline with what your belief system is, and that belief system discredits women.

Be honest with yourself.


I would not describe that video as a group of angry men surrounding her. Nor did she appear at all terrified for her life, nor would I be . Frustrated and annoyed - yes. It was a dispute with one young man trying to hold or take the bike that lasted a short time while another video'ed. She then turns her back to the young man as she lets go and seems to decide to use another bike. We only only know a certain % of the whole story. Describing that video as an angry group of men surrounding her and making her terrified for her life is really no different from describing her as a Karen.


It is fascinating how much people contort themselves and hard facts right in front of them to avoid facing difficult truths about who they are. Really remarkable to see in action.

Consider examining just how deep your misogyny runs.


Consider how deep your racism runs. And your contortions to ignore facts and to interpret them through your lens. If these black boys were white females, you would not be describing them as an angry group surrounding and terrifying a person and making that person fear for their lives.

I don't think the boys / men were in the right. She has receipts and has been appallingly treated online. I also don't think that makes them an angry group of black men surrounding and terrifying a woman.


Your dedication to avoiding the truth of your misogyny is noted.

The bolded is genuinely funny. You’re flailing. You’ve been forced to face your horrific misogyny but rather than doing that, you are making increasingly outlandish statements. Please do tell me more about the groups of white females surrounding Citibike riders near Bellevue hospital. I would love to hear about them.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Truth.



I don’t think people thought she was actually trying to rob the kids because that’s asinine. I thought it was more of a situation where she thought it was hers and wouldn’t listen to the boys saying she was wrong. People refuse to admit they’re wrong ALL the time (look at this thread lol).

It appears based on receipts and her lawyer’s statement that I misinterpreted the situation and I’m willing to admit that.


Question for you: do you truly believe that a significantly pregnant women coming off a work shift, would challenge a group of older male teens or adult men surrounding her? Really? In what world would that ever make sense?

I know literally no women who would not be terrified for their lives in that situation. Pregnant, surrounded by angry men? That’s objectively terrifying. And you don’t any women who wouldn’t be terrified either, if you are honest with yourself. You believed the initial take, the men, because of deeply ingrained and adopted misogyny that teaches you that scared women are “hysterical” and their tears are faked.

You didn’t misinterpret anything: you acted and believed according to your misogynist belief system which will always, always discredit the woman. Your response was precisely inline with what your belief system is, and that belief system discredits women.

Be honest with yourself.


I would not describe that video as a group of angry men surrounding her. Nor did she appear at all terrified for her life, nor would I be . Frustrated and annoyed - yes. It was a dispute with one young man trying to hold or take the bike that lasted a short time while another video'ed. She then turns her back to the young man as she lets go and seems to decide to use another bike. We only only know a certain % of the whole story. Describing that video as an angry group of men surrounding her and making her terrified for her life is really no different from describing her as a Karen.


They moved her bike, with her on it, back into the rack to end the ride she had paid for. They mocked her for reacting. They called her unborn child r****. One of the guys reached across her to swipe his phone on the QR reader. True, one of the four keeps saying, "give her the bike."


They were confrontational but I can how if it was me and I thought someone was taking a bike I had paid for, I might grab the bike and pull it back too. I might reach across the bike and my arm might brush the person on it. Do I think that makes me an angry person terrorizing that individual and they need to fear for their life - no. It is a minor confrontation that went viral.

Was the comment rude - yes. To look at the guy sitting on the bike smiling and saying give her the bike and characterize him as an angry black man surrounding her and terrorizing her and making her fear for her life is as full of bias and racism (black men are dangerous and angry) as any biased comment about her. We need to separate what actually happened in the video from the response online. Those are two separate issues. What has happened online has been appalling. What happened in the video was not a group of angry men surrounding and terrorizing and physically assaulting a woman as they tried to steal her bike making her fear for her life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It looks like the person who doxxed her is an influencer in Los Angeles who has doxxed people before. His Twitter account is suspended now, not sure about TikTok. The entire Twitter thread below is disturbing.



I appreciate that the twitter account owner exposing all this calls himself Leftism and his account reflects it. Disgust at this incident goes across the political spectrum.

- lefty


+1, I would like to see more people on the left speak up against this kind of behavior. Not just the doxxing, but posting videos like this with the express purpose of stirring up racial controversy, stirring up internet mobs into a frenzy over situations you don't understand, etc.

One thing this case has exposed for me is these social media grifters like @thatdaneshguy and Monique Judge who appear to be making a living off of stirring up outrage online and then posting/writing about. I guess if I ever thought too hard about it I might have recognized these people exist, but I'm not sufficiently "online" to haver realized it was a whole category of person/influencer. I'm going to be more educated about that going forward and when I do go on Twitter or other social media (including DCUM) I will be more careful about making sure I don't get pulled in by these people. I'm horrified by the damage they can do.

But I do wish we saw more people on the left speaking up on this case. I'm a little disappointed that her lawyer's one tv interview was on Fox -- I'm guessing they reached out to multiple venues and Fox was eager to have them on because they liked the angle ("accused Karen actually the victim") but since I'm genuinely convinced of the injustice in this case, I'd love it if more mainstream media and leftist/progressive sources were speaking up.


Someone posted his interview on the local NBC affiliate.
Anonymous
I kind of see “karen” as similar to the “angry black woman” trope.

While I fully appreciate and respect that black women experience sexism in a uniquely terrible way due to pervasive racism, both of these stereotypes were designed to humiliate women when they get upset or speak up for themselves even when they are justified in doing so.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Did the young men believe they had already reserved the bike she was on? I think her attorney said that the guys told her they had reserved that bike when she was pulling out. Was it a big misunderstanding on their part? If not, and they purposefully took a bike they knew they had not reserved, then why is her attorney not going after them?


It's hard to know what the young men actually believed, as all we know is what they say in the video, which is just "that's not your bike" and "it's his bike" and later "he paid for it" (because by then he had).

Something commentators were saying is that the guy had reserved that specific bike on his app and just hadn't unlocked it yet, but as someone who has used CitiBike and other bike shares many times, I don't think this is possible. You can't reserve a specific bike with CitiBike. with some of the other dockless bikeshare companies you can, because the bikes can be anywhere and you can locate a bike in the app and reserve it, and then it won't appear to others in the app for a certain amount of time. But with bikeshares that have docking stations, this is impractical because people go to the stations to look for bikes, and it would be frustrating/annoying to arrive at a station with a bunch of bikes only to discover they are all "reserved" by people who may or may not show up. So I really don't think there is any way he could have reserved that specific bike, though if he'd mostly used other services before, it's possible he thought he could.

I've assumed from the beginning that this was a conflict over an e-bike -- there are fewer of them in the system and they tend to be in very high demand, especially during commuting hours because many people are taking the bikes longer distances or don't want to get sweaty in their work clothes. That's not been confirmed, but I've always assumed that this was the last e-bike at the station and that's why both parties wanted it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Did the young men believe they had already reserved the bike she was on? I think her attorney said that the guys told her they had reserved that bike when she was pulling out. Was it a big misunderstanding on their part? If not, and they purposefully took a bike they knew they had not reserved, then why is her attorney not going after them?


It’s actually a known scam. People will go up and say that they’d paid for the bike. Often people are confused and just give it up. But the PA may have known about the scam and that’s why she refused.

There wouldn’t be much point in filing civil charges against them, because they likely have no assets to pay off any judgment.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I kind of see “karen” as similar to the “angry black woman” trope.

While I fully appreciate and respect that black women experience sexism in a uniquely terrible way due to pervasive racism, both of these stereotypes were designed to humiliate women when they get upset or speak up for themselves even when they are justified in doing so.


This is a really good point.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Did the young men believe they had already reserved the bike she was on? I think her attorney said that the guys told her they had reserved that bike when she was pulling out. Was it a big misunderstanding on their part? If not, and they purposefully took a bike they knew they had not reserved, then why is her attorney not going after them?


The video appears to show a misunderstanding that led to a minor confrontation that was quickly resolved by one party acquiesing to the other. The response to the video has been extreme. They aren't going after the young men as likely the woman involved issues and concerns and fear for her life are from the online response and threats to her from those responding and the doxxing - and not the young men.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did the young men believe they had already reserved the bike she was on? I think her attorney said that the guys told her they had reserved that bike when she was pulling out. Was it a big misunderstanding on their part? If not, and they purposefully took a bike they knew they had not reserved, then why is her attorney not going after them?


It’s actually a known scam. People will go up and say that they’d paid for the bike. Often people are confused and just give it up. But the PA may have known about the scam and that’s why she refused.

There wouldn’t be much point in filing civil charges against them, because they likely have no assets to pay off any judgment.


How is that a scam since the account from her lawyer is that the men pushed it back in and locked it? What can they gain from a locked bike?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It looks like the person who doxxed her is an influencer in Los Angeles who has doxxed people before. His Twitter account is suspended now, not sure about TikTok. The entire Twitter thread below is disturbing.



I appreciate that the twitter account owner exposing all this calls himself Leftism and his account reflects it. Disgust at this incident goes across the political spectrum.

- lefty


+1, I would like to see more people on the left speak up against this kind of behavior. Not just the doxxing, but posting videos like this with the express purpose of stirring up racial controversy, stirring up internet mobs into a frenzy over situations you don't understand, etc.

One thing this case has exposed for me is these social media grifters like @thatdaneshguy and Monique Judge who appear to be making a living off of stirring up outrage online and then posting/writing about. I guess if I ever thought too hard about it I might have recognized these people exist, but I'm not sufficiently "online" to haver realized it was a whole category of person/influencer. I'm going to be more educated about that going forward and when I do go on Twitter or other social media (including DCUM) I will be more careful about making sure I don't get pulled in by these people. I'm horrified by the damage they can do.

But I do wish we saw more people on the left speaking up on this case. I'm a little disappointed that her lawyer's one tv interview was on Fox -- I'm guessing they reached out to multiple venues and Fox was eager to have them on because they liked the angle ("accused Karen actually the victim") but since I'm genuinely convinced of the injustice in this case, I'd love it if more mainstream media and leftist/progressive sources were speaking up.


PP here. I stand corrected. Leftism is a conservative guy who "exposes leftists."

That's depressing. I agree with you, progressive social media and news stations should be covering the complete story. Their initial complicity followed by silence does, rightfully, alienate would-be progressives and allies. Already on this thread we saw one woman who said she was leaving the Dems to be independent because of incidents like this.
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