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Anonymous
And we're still waiting for you to tell us why kids will be moved, if not to "improve" other schools? Why haven't you answered? And it's not to "save time / make more efficient bus routes," because AAP centers appear to still be in play - and their very existence belies any time or cost savings. So don't keep feeding us BS about boundary changes being needed without providing ACTUAL reasons why you think this. |
Anonymous
I would *MAYBE* believe that if AAP centers were eliminated and all students were sent back to their neighborhood schools. But until that happens, this excuse of "saving commuting time" is absolute BS. DP |
Anonymous
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Look up disparate impact.
If your current system of program delivery results in a disparate impact on a protected class, that system of program delivery is, itself, discriminatory. The remedy is to fix that system of program delivery, not shuffle students to cover it up. Tip of the iceberg. Just. Keep. Poking. This. Bear. FAFO. |
Anonymous
I’m the “compelling reason” poster. Just want to point out that I do have a life outside of DCUM. I know you’re constantly here and demand instant feedback, but some of us enjoy our family time. Compelling reason is critically over capacity. Or compelling reasons exist when the school absolutely needs change to function. This is usually paired with the potentially moved families desiring the boundary move. Not compelling reasons are pretend transportation savings or amorphous equity goals that the school board takes pains to not define. Not compelling reason is balancing farms nor playing a game of gotcha based on you pretending your neighbors are racist. |
Anonymous
+1000. No one should be getting bussed over 8 miles to a school if there is a closer option with space. |
Anonymous
No im sorry but we just can’t make that equal. There is no way to take a kid starting high school with no English and a 3rd grade education the same as a UMC kid who has been converted with from birth, taken to museums, spoken enlist in his house and read to from birth equal performers in school. It can’t happen. And yes that is often the expectation in schools. We HAVE to reframe this as a country and as a school system. We offer a path, we offer education but it cannot be the same experience. We also need to define immigrant success across multiple generations s. Look at the way immigrants voted differently in this past election. People change.The wealth and educational Growth comes after you and your familyhave been here a while. I’m pro immigrant BTW and a dem, but there are practicalities and patterns to human beings and acculturation that your theory of having everyone equal in high school doesn’t allow for. |
Anonymous
Agreed. And frankly even if they press the SES reset button now, at best, people will just sort themselves based on the new maps. The only way that this would actually get solved is to force families to live in certain houses. I don’t think we’re getting rid of the free market any time soon. At some point, the UMC will flee the system, then Linda McMahon’s robust private school system will be fully realized. I’m not sure the school board realizes how bad this could get for our county. This isn’t just hyperbole. I know many families actively considering this as an alternative. |
Anonymous
How many times are you going to repeat this? The SB doesn’t care about transportation efficiency. This is proven with AAP centers. We are walkers to a level 4 elementary school. But if we wanted we could be bused the center school out of pyramid 10+ minutes away. How is that efficient with resources? Centers are redundant when level 4 is already in almost every elementary school. And since you want to just keep repeating miles the distance for most from western great falls to cooper versus Herndon middle is 2 minutes further. And for the high school 9 minutes. You’re not saving drivers/buses on the road. You’re just switching which direction they go. And the time piece is minimal. Also while they way overbuilt HHS and now have empty seats almost 300 kids pupil place out so the extra capacity isn’t that much if you bring them back, and there isn’t the capacity at the middle school. Especially if you bring kids back to base schools. And get rid of AAP centers in middle. Herndon kids go to Hughes for AAP middle. There is a disparity between middle school capacity versus high school. |
Anonymous
Who is arguing for this besides the SB and people who want other peoples kids moved into their schools to make them “better” Have you read any of the feedback from the boundary review meetings where thousands of parents went and wrote down their feedback. It is almost all against this study. |
Anonymous
She says it because that’s all she’s got. It’s just obvious to anyone with Google maps that the argument doesn’t pass muster under any metric. (Don’t take my word for it, check it out yourselves!) The extra time from Forestville to Cooper instead of HMS is quite literally two minutes. There are people in the community who would see a longer commute to HMS. The commute to Langley vs HHS is slightly longer, but not by much. It’s on average about 9.8 minutes longer from Forestville (at the time the bus rolls through the neighborhood). The 8-mile poster wants people to look at that figure and gasp at how far eight miles is, but in reality there are de minimus time savings and zero transportation savings to be gleaned from a Forestville change. Now, as you say, getting rid of AAP centers is a different story. I don’t feel strongly about going that route, but since certain school members clamor about transportation savings, this clearly must be considered. |
Anonymous
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Why would parents hate a school so much that they'd put their kids in private schools rather than have their kids attend a certain public school?
Is it the teachers? Are there really horrible teachers at those schools? Is it that parents don't like the way a school looks? The classrooms look too old and shoddy? Or is it the kids in the school itself? That you don't like those kids attending those schools? |
Anonymous
Families have many reasons for wanting their kids in particular schools. Unsurprisingly, and without any basis whatsoever, you are attempting to spin this as an issue with those students. It’s not. The only person attempting to foment racial strife or unfairly go after these kids is you, the boy who cries wolf. |
Anonymous
Yet, most of the homes that feed into Forestville are further west, and many are much closer to the Herndon schools. All those homes south of Route 7 with Herndon zip codes are suspiciously zoned for Langley, Forestville or Cooper. You cannot use the school to school proximity so support your claim. People don’t live in schools. |
Anonymous
This is true. But, what is also true is that you are suggesting is that we create more split feeders. It seems to me that the people pushing this are the people who want other kids in their schools. So, who is the racist here? There was a thread on here a couple of years ago that was really, really vocal about getting GF into Herndon. When she got shut down on that, she turned to the Oak Hill section of Herndon--and was demanding Floris be sent to Herndon. Then, at some point. all Oak Hill students attend Herndon High because Herndon is their communitiy. She may have been the same person who posted on this thread recently saying that Floris is in the middle of Herndon (absolutely false statement.) If this were really about transportation, the SB and Robyn Lady would be pushing to put Coates into Herndon High. Coates is pretty crowded now and that would settle the issue. Simply and completely. It is a hop skip and jump from Herndon Middle and much, much closer than Forestville.. Also, with all the new construction, it should become more affluent over the next years. |
Anonymous
10 million times this!! All of it!! And while people outside of school intuitively recognize the first part, the amount of people that think it needs to be standard to go from just crossed the border to Ivy league grads in one generation is absolutely nuts. My family's mostly German heritage so came over sometime in the mid/late 1800s (we don't know for sure). My grandparents on both jobs had MC/LMC jobs (factory workers for grandpas; 1 grandma stayed at home and one was a lunch lady). My parents were each the first in their families to go to college. It takes time for a family to acclimate. |