FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:Found it!

I'd forgotten how egregious this is. Talk about bigotry.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFJi-tHjWXg

If I recall this correctly, there was some guy from Reston interviewing Omeish when she was a candidate in 2019 and complaining about the Langley boundaries. She went along with it, but it wasn't like she brought it up or added much.

You say "Talk about bigotry." If I recall, the Reston guy claimed that Langley was skimming the "creme of the crop" from Herndon and Reston neighborhoods. So you can claim that's bigoted if he was equating wealthier families, mostly White and Asian, with the "creme of the crop." On the other hand, FCPS has curated Langley's boundaries over the years so that, in 2025, it still has no condos and apartments and only a small number of townhouses. That didn't happen by accident, so there may have been some bigotry at play there as well.

It will be interesting to see if, once again, other parts of the county are subjected to boundary changes while no one gets moved out of Langley.

big·ot
[ˈbiɡət]
noun
a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group:
"don't let a few small-minded bigots destroy the good image of the city" · "a racist bigot"

The vitriol in his speech was troubling. The definition of bigot seems applicable. These are kids he is talking about. And, I looked it up--Langley is around 50% white. Using the term "lily white" seems like a slur.

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The interviewer was a horrible, blatant bigot. And Omeish just went right along with him.

This was six years ago and Omeish isn’t on the SB any longer. Meanwhile the bigotry of the Langley community towards Hispanics in Herndon has never ceased.

Remember your unhinged post from a couple of days ago on this topic? Because we sure do.

You have no credibility because you continue to assert, without any basis, that your neighbors are racist.

You. Are. Disgusting.

1. You are confliating posters.

2. Don't pretend that people are your "neighbors" when you constantly proclaim your desire not to interact with their kids.

3. The constant denigration of Herndon by Great Falls posters is as bigoted as anything from that old interview with Omeish.

Get. Over. Yourselves.

“Constant denigration”? You must clearly have receipts. Would love to see them. Feel free to show us the constant denigration. Go find them. We’ll wait. (Pathetic if you can’t back up your claims).

When you claim everyone is racist you become the boy who cried wolf and you do a real disservice to actual racism. You are the problem, it’s you.

All you needed to do was look at 10:45 for an example of the condescending, insulting posts.

But it's OK. Once your kids get reassigned to Herndon, at least some of you will change your tune.

NP. Stop with the Herndon bashing. You could do far worse outside of there or Lewis or whatever other school you want to denigrate. Get a grip and stop hyperventilating. FX County residents voted for this board. Now, we are stuck with them. And don’t act like this is a surprise. It has been on the agenda for years and voters ignored it, because candidates focus on the new stuff in campaigns not what is already in progress. Voters should have also paid attention to residential zoning which continues to pick winners and losers. And to other policies. Voters created this mess, now we’re stuck.(HHS parent)

Some of the Great Falls/Langley posters are bullies but when they are reassigned to Herndon at least some of them will come around. Until then they will just continue to insult Herndon, the School Board, and any parents who acknowledge that some boundary changes may be appropriate.

If you hate them so much why do you want them?

Right??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP, I am also a Herndon parent. I don’t assume GF/Langley parents are racist. However, I feel that Herndon being “poorer”, many of the Langley parents are afraid their kids might learn some “bad ways” of their new peers if they are re-zoned.

We are not a wealthy family. Our home value is about average for Herndon, and we are URMs and immigrants. However, I must say my children’s friends are all focused on school, athletics, and other ECs. They are polite and ambitious.

My kids have also played club sports with some kids zoned for Langley, and we all got along with their families.

Herndon is not as bad as many think it is. Statistics only tell part of what the school really is like. Most teachers are good. The athletic trainer is amazing as well.

I believe you. But, I don't think they are "fearful," I think they don't like being used as pawns. It's the School Board that is fearful. For years, this has been a topic. Most people like where they are. I'm not a Langley parent and never aspired to be one--but, I understand not wanting to be moved. I've been through more than one boundary study. It is not fun to live in uncertainty. And, believe me, once this is completed, there will be additional uncertainty. I find it hard to believe that a successful county wide boundary study can be done. Way too many variables: transportation, programs, communities, feeders, etc. Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.

Well said. No one likes to be told that their kids are being moved in order to somehow "improve" another school. That's the issue. FCPS need to improve schools as they are, rather than importing kids to try and raise test scores.

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I'd forgotten how egregious this is. Talk about bigotry.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFJi-tHjWXg

If I recall this correctly, there was some guy from Reston interviewing Omeish when she was a candidate in 2019 and complaining about the Langley boundaries. She went along with it, but it wasn't like she brought it up or added much.

You say "Talk about bigotry." If I recall, the Reston guy claimed that Langley was skimming the "creme of the crop" from Herndon and Reston neighborhoods. So you can claim that's bigoted if he was equating wealthier families, mostly White and Asian, with the "creme of the crop." On the other hand, FCPS has curated Langley's boundaries over the years so that, in 2025, it still has no condos and apartments and only a small number of townhouses. That didn't happen by accident, so there may have been some bigotry at play there as well.

It will be interesting to see if, once again, other parts of the county are subjected to boundary changes while no one gets moved out of Langley.

big·ot
[ˈbiɡət]
noun
a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group:
"don't let a few small-minded bigots destroy the good image of the city" · "a racist bigot"

The vitriol in his speech was troubling. The definition of bigot seems applicable. These are kids he is talking about. And, I looked it up--Langley is around 50% white. Using the term "lily white" seems like a slur.

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The interviewer was a horrible, blatant bigot. And Omeish just went right along with him.

This was six years ago and Omeish isn’t on the SB any longer. Meanwhile the bigotry of the Langley community towards Hispanics in Herndon has never ceased.

Remember your unhinged post from a couple of days ago on this topic? Because we sure do.

You have no credibility because you continue to assert, without any basis, that your neighbors are racist.

You. Are. Disgusting.

1. You are confliating posters.

2. Don't pretend that people are your "neighbors" when you constantly proclaim your desire not to interact with their kids.

3. The constant denigration of Herndon by Great Falls posters is as bigoted as anything from that old interview with Omeish.

Get. Over. Yourselves.

“Constant denigration”? You must clearly have receipts. Would love to see them. Feel free to show us the constant denigration. Go find them. We’ll wait. (Pathetic if you can’t back up your claims).

When you claim everyone is racist you become the boy who cried wolf and you do a real disservice to actual racism. You are the problem, it’s you.

All you needed to do was look at 10:45 for an example of the condescending, insulting posts.

But it's OK. Once your kids get reassigned to Herndon, at least some of you will change your tune.

NP. Stop with the Herndon bashing. You could do far worse outside of there or Lewis or whatever other school you want to denigrate. Get a grip and stop hyperventilating. FX County residents voted for this board. Now, we are stuck with them. And don’t act like this is a surprise. It has been on the agenda for years and voters ignored it, because candidates focus on the new stuff in campaigns not what is already in progress. Voters should have also paid attention to residential zoning which continues to pick winners and losers. And to other policies. Voters created this mess, now we’re stuck.(HHS parent)

Some of the Great Falls/Langley posters are bullies but when they are reassigned to Herndon at least some of them will come around. Until then they will just continue to insult Herndon, the School Board, and any parents who acknowledge that some boundary changes may be appropriate.

They’ll come around when their kids get sent to a worse school and their property values drop lol

How many times do you plan to repeat yourself?

[Anonymous]

No one is saying kids will be moved to improve other schools. No one except the anti change gang.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP, I am also a Herndon parent. I don’t assume GF/Langley parents are racist. However, I feel that Herndon being “poorer”, many of the Langley parents are afraid their kids might learn some “bad ways” of their new peers if they are re-zoned.

We are not a wealthy family. Our home value is about average for Herndon, and we are URMs and immigrants. However, I must say my children’s friends are all focused on school, athletics, and other ECs. They are polite and ambitious.

My kids have also played club sports with some kids zoned for Langley, and we all got along with their families.

Herndon is not as bad as many think it is. Statistics only tell part of what the school really is like. Most teachers are good. The athletic trainer is amazing as well.

I’m a GF parent whose kids will likely be unaffected (at least directly) by any boundary changes. I’m really happy that you like Herndon (even if for certain families in the HHS pyramid, the good will is not reciprocal).

It sounds like you chose your house based in part on the great community. Putting school caliber aside, however one defines it, families chose their pyramids and do not want their kids to be pawns of the school board.

This is massive unnecessary disruption. It will only hurt students, some more than others.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oakton boundary changes still happening?

Is that a threat?

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Anonymous wrote:NP, I am also a Herndon parent. I don’t assume GF/Langley parents are racist. However, I feel that Herndon being “poorer”, many of the Langley parents are afraid their kids might learn some “bad ways” of their new peers if they are re-zoned.

We are not a wealthy family. Our home value is about average for Herndon, and we are URMs and immigrants. However, I must say my children’s friends are all focused on school, athletics, and other ECs. They are polite and ambitious.

My kids have also played club sports with some kids zoned for Langley, and we all got along with their families.

Herndon is not as bad as many think it is. Statistics only tell part of what the school really is like. Most teachers are good. The athletic trainer is amazing as well.

I believe you. But, I don't think they are "fearful," I think they don't like being used as pawns. It's the School Board that is fearful. For years, this has been a topic. Most people like where they are. I'm not a Langley parent and never aspired to be one--but, I understand not wanting to be moved. I've been through more than one boundary study. It is not fun to live in uncertainty. And, believe me, once this is completed, there will be additional uncertainty. I find it hard to believe that a successful county wide boundary study can be done. Way too many variables: transportation, programs, communities, feeders, etc. Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.

“Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.”

Where are you getting this information? Is it posted somewhere? Did someone say it in a meeting? Just collecting receipts.

If FCPS continues to concentrate poverty in some areas, and exclude economic diversity in others like Langley, it’s hard to see how students can have equitable access to programming.

I do not follow. How does the relative wealth of the student population affect access to programming? Walk me through it. I am not arguing with you, I am trying to understand.

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Both Herndon and Langley are AP schools. I'd like the PP to explain what they mean by "equitable access to programming" too.

[Anonymous]

I’ve heard Oakton change is happening.

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Anonymous wrote:NP, I am also a Herndon parent. I don’t assume GF/Langley parents are racist. However, I feel that Herndon being “poorer”, many of the Langley parents are afraid their kids might learn some “bad ways” of their new peers if they are re-zoned.

We are not a wealthy family. Our home value is about average for Herndon, and we are URMs and immigrants. However, I must say my children’s friends are all focused on school, athletics, and other ECs. They are polite and ambitious.

My kids have also played club sports with some kids zoned for Langley, and we all got along with their families.

Herndon is not as bad as many think it is. Statistics only tell part of what the school really is like. Most teachers are good. The athletic trainer is amazing as well.

I believe you. But, I don't think they are "fearful," I think they don't like being used as pawns. It's the School Board that is fearful. For years, this has been a topic. Most people like where they are. I'm not a Langley parent and never aspired to be one--but, I understand not wanting to be moved. I've been through more than one boundary study. It is not fun to live in uncertainty. And, believe me, once this is completed, there will be additional uncertainty. I find it hard to believe that a successful county wide boundary study can be done. Way too many variables: transportation, programs, communities, feeders, etc. Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.

“Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.”

Where are you getting this information? Is it posted somewhere? Did someone say it in a meeting? Just collecting receipts.

If FCPS continues to concentrate poverty in some areas, and exclude economic diversity in others like Langley, it’s hard to see how students can have equitable access to programming.

I do not follow. How does the relative wealth of the student population affect access to programming? Walk me through it. I am not arguing with you, I am trying to understand.

Seriously? You could always start by comparing the course catalogs at different schools.

DP. I did and the URLs for those course catalogs are not working. So why don't you enlighten us?

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Anonymous wrote:NP, I am also a Herndon parent. I don’t assume GF/Langley parents are racist. However, I feel that Herndon being “poorer”, many of the Langley parents are afraid their kids might learn some “bad ways” of their new peers if they are re-zoned.

We are not a wealthy family. Our home value is about average for Herndon, and we are URMs and immigrants. However, I must say my children’s friends are all focused on school, athletics, and other ECs. They are polite and ambitious.

My kids have also played club sports with some kids zoned for Langley, and we all got along with their families.

Herndon is not as bad as many think it is. Statistics only tell part of what the school really is like. Most teachers are good. The athletic trainer is amazing as well.

I believe you. But, I don't think they are "fearful," I think they don't like being used as pawns. It's the School Board that is fearful. For years, this has been a topic. Most people like where they are. I'm not a Langley parent and never aspired to be one--but, I understand not wanting to be moved. I've been through more than one boundary study. It is not fun to live in uncertainty. And, believe me, once this is completed, there will be additional uncertainty. I find it hard to believe that a successful county wide boundary study can be done. Way too many variables: transportation, programs, communities, feeders, etc. Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.

“Not to mention the additional goal of balancing FARMS.”

Where are you getting this information? Is it posted somewhere? Did someone say it in a meeting? Just collecting receipts.

If FCPS continues to concentrate poverty in some areas, and exclude economic diversity in others like Langley, it’s hard to see how students can have equitable access to programming.

No one can ever get equitable access to programming because they have never defined what that is. What is IT?

And they never will define it because it’s a weasel term for SES rebalancing.

It’s an important goal even if it’s quickly dismissed by those comfortable with the disparities.

So describe these "disparities." We're waiting.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve heard Oakton change is happening.

Which change is that? How did we move from Herndon and Langley to Oakton?

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Anonymous wrote:I understand residents not wanting to change school districts. However, if your house is in the periphery of any PUBLIC school district, there will always be a chance they will get moved, for any variety of reasons. Our house is walking distance to the high school we chose for our kids for our kids to attend.

But when the school board decides to change the rules of the game and the implicit agreement with UMC that their kids won’t be moved absent compelling reason (which doesn’t exist here) in exchange for UMC support for public schools, it creates real risk for the entire school system. At this point UMC is the only segment of the population that really is going to stand up for public school - that’s why this whole exercise is uber-dangerous.

I’ve been on DCUM long enough to know that most people arguing for boundary changes do so out of spite for neighbors that they perceive as richer. There are the posters that claim that anyone against moving their kids must be in the level of the KKK. These posters seek to cut off their nose to spite their face.

You know who you are.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I understand residents not wanting to change school districts. However, if your house is in the periphery of any PUBLIC school district, there will always be a chance they will get moved, for any variety of reasons. Our house is walking distance to the high school we chose for our kids for our kids to attend.

But when the school board decides to change the rules of the game and the implicit agreement with UMC that their kids won’t be moved absent compelling reason (which doesn’t exist here) in exchange for UMC support for public schools, it creates real risk for the entire school system. At this point UMC is the only segment of the population that really is going to stand up for public school - that’s why this whole exercise is uber-dangerous.

I’ve been on DCUM long enough to know that most people arguing for boundary changes do so out of spite for neighbors that they perceive as richer. There are the posters that claim that anyone against moving their kids must be in the level of the KKK. These posters seek to cut off their nose to spite their face.

You know who you are.

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What?? Most are arguing for a comprehensive study. Conspiracy theorists against change are arguing against that. Everyone knows there are changes to be made, most easily around reducing commuting time. Knowledge is power you all are off your rockers, the data will show what you don't want to happen (which really solidifies it's factual), or it will play out less drastic. Either way let the options be presented before you jump to conclusions.

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Anonymous wrote:Anybody? How do boundary changes focused on balancing FARMS levels across all schools result in “equitable access to programming”?

Is FCPS currently withholding programming from high FARMS schools on a system-wide basis? Is FCPS only willing to provide certain programming at a school if there is a certain level of non-farms students at that school? Is that why balancing is necessary?

If that is the case, then FCPS should rethink their biased approach and rebalance program offerings at schools so they stop withholding programming from low income families.

I mean, really. Is the best argument for “access to programming” that FCPS won’t offer a full slate of programs unless there are enough wealthy kids at a school? That sounds like discrimination on the part of FCPS. “Hey, we need more non-FARMS kids in this school because we only offer certain programs if there are a certain number of non-FARMS kids in a school.”

This seems to be exactly what the motivation is. Well, that and trying to improve test scores by using the non-FARMS kids. It's all social engineering. Meanwhile, they could be beefing up the curriculum as needed. However, I thought the curriculum was the same across all FCPS schools. So why are certain schools not doing well? I really hope the PP insisting boundary changes are necessary comes back and explains this!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anybody? How do boundary changes focused on balancing FARMS levels across all schools result in “equitable access to programming”?

Is FCPS currently withholding programming from high FARMS schools on a system-wide basis? Is FCPS only willing to provide certain programming at a school if there is a certain level of non-farms students at that school? Is that why balancing is necessary?

If that is the case, then FCPS should rethink their biased approach and rebalance program offerings at schools so they stop withholding programming from low income families.

I mean, really. Is the best argument for “access to programming” that FCPS won’t offer a full slate of programs unless there are enough wealthy kids at a school? That sounds like discrimination on the part of FCPS. “Hey, we need more non-FARMS kids in this school because we only offer certain programs if there are a certain number of non-FARMS kids in a school.”

So, still no explanation as to what you’d consider “compelling reasons” for a boundary change?

Apparently you toss out terms to try and sound reasonable but can’t even explain what they mean.

DP. I think you are in agreement with the PP.