UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

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Anonymous wrote:He didn’t wear gloves in the pictures where he shoots him. Surprised, I thought that was Murderer 101. Perhaps he went bare to have more dexterity with the chamber reloading

Definitely for dexterity. It was cold that morning. Which is likely why he went inside the Starbucks for a bit to remain warmed up.

I think he had a spotter at the other hotel. That’s who was speaking to on the phone. And that’s how he knew the target was on the move and able to get into position only 5 minutes in advance.

This is the best explanation I have heard. Why else would he be in the phone minutes before.

And taking the bus means no car tracking or license plates.

If he had a spotter, this isn’t really about a denied claim.

what is a spotter?

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Anonymous wrote:He didn’t wear gloves in the pictures where he shoots him. Surprised, I thought that was Murderer 101. Perhaps he went bare to have more dexterity with the chamber reloading

Definitely for dexterity. It was cold that morning. Which is likely why he went inside the Starbucks for a bit to remain warmed up.

I think he had a spotter at the other hotel. That’s who was speaking to on the phone. And that’s how he knew the target was on the move and able to get into position only 5 minutes in advance.

This is the best explanation I have heard. Why else would he be in the phone minutes before.

And taking the bus means no car tracking or license plates.

If he had a spotter, this isn’t really about a denied claim.

Media is reporting the bullet casings and live rounds found at the scene had “deny” “defend” “depose” written on them, so seems like the killer’s motive (or motive of whoever hired the killer) is indeed along those lines.

Or it's a red herring.

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter waited 5 minutes in his location, not feasible on his own. Nobody gets that lucky.

Ding, Ding, Ding!!
DCUM can’t handle it may have been suicide by hired gunman, huh?

I saw two LE analysts, one FBI and one USMS, on TV this morning and they were both pretty adamant the shooter is not a professional.

Geee, shocking

I said that the very first time I saw the video. A trained shooter isn’t going to use an untested gun+suppressor combination. He was expecting that pistol to function, and it didn’t. Repeatedly. He had to cycle it by hand each time to get it to fire. So clearly he’d never practiced with that gun/suppressor even once, because had he, he would’ve learned then that it didn’t work. A professional killer wouldn’t take a chance like that. They would use something previously tested, with 100% reliability.



In other words, these LE analysts on TV are about as perceptive and knowledgeable as me, a guy who flies airplanes for living.

That gun has to be cycled after every shot, just like a standard shotgun. It's actually a cool gun, based off of a WW2 pistol. The design + screw on suppressor makes it quiet, relative to a normal pistol. I had no idea either until I searched for the gun on YouTube.

I'm interested in this. I deal with a lot of gun crimes as part of my job and I'm struggling to understand why anyone would choose this kind of gun? What's the advantage?
Why not get a 9mm Glock like every other criminal? It seems like it dramatically increases the chance of getting caught.

Just a wild guess, but possible something to do with purchasing and/tracing of the gun. If this is a WWII gun or even a WWII inspired gun, it may have been purchased a long time ago before modern tracking of gun purchases was in place, probably not something he personally owned but even so, his name wouldn’t be tied to it

It's not a Welrod or clone of one. He ran the slide, not operated a bolt.

NYPD believes it is a Welrod- for whatever that’s worth: https://abc7ny.com/amp/post/unitedhealthcare-ceo-shot-brian-thompson-killed-midtown-nyc-writing-shell-casings-bullets/15623577/

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Anonymous wrote:New angle on gun. It may have been a veterinarian gun used for putting animals down.

I thought veterinarians used a drug cocktail for putting down animals?

Large animals are sometimes put down with a captive bolt gun, which does not shoot a projectile and is not what was used here. Not sure what PP is talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter waited 5 minutes in his location, not feasible on his own. Nobody gets that lucky.

Ding, Ding, Ding!!
DCUM can’t handle it may have been suicide by hired gunman, huh?

I saw two LE analysts, one FBI and one USMS, on TV this morning and they were both pretty adamant the shooter is not a professional.

Geee, shocking

I said that the very first time I saw the video. A trained shooter isn’t going to use an untested gun+suppressor combination. He was expecting that pistol to function, and it didn’t. Repeatedly. He had to cycle it by hand each time to get it to fire. So clearly he’d never practiced with that gun/suppressor even once, because had he, he would’ve learned then that it didn’t work. A professional killer wouldn’t take a chance like that. They would use something previously tested, with 100% reliability.



In other words, these LE analysts on TV are about as perceptive and knowledgeable as me, a guy who flies airplanes for living.

That gun has to be cycled after every shot, just like a standard shotgun. It's actually a cool gun, based off of a WW2 pistol. The design + screw on suppressor makes it quiet, relative to a normal pistol. I had no idea either until I searched for the gun on YouTube.

I'm interested in this. I deal with a lot of gun crimes as part of my job and I'm struggling to understand why anyone would choose this kind of gun? What's the advantage?
Why not get a 9mm Glock like every other criminal? It seems like it dramatically increases the chance of getting caught.

Just a wild guess, but possible something to do with purchasing and/tracing of the gun. If this is a WWII gun or even a WWII inspired gun, it may have been purchased a long time ago before modern tracking of gun purchases was in place, probably not something he personally owned but even so, his name wouldn’t be tied to it

It's not a Welrod or clone of one. He ran the slide, not operated a bolt.

NYPD believes it is a Welrod- for whatever that’s worth: https://abc7ny.com/amp/post/unitedhealthcare-ceo-shot-brian-thompson-killed-midtown-nyc-writing-shell-casings-bullets/15623577/

That's a very comprehensive article. Thanks for posting.

I found this interesting: "They are checking every dispute or contested denial of service brought against the company..."

With their denial rate, that is going to take forever.

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Anonymous wrote:He didn’t wear gloves in the pictures where he shoots him. Surprised, I thought that was Murderer 101. Perhaps he went bare to have more dexterity with the chamber reloading

Definitely for dexterity. It was cold that morning. Which is likely why he went inside the Starbucks for a bit to remain warmed up.

I think he had a spotter at the other hotel. That’s who was speaking to on the phone. And that’s how he knew the target was on the move and able to get into position only 5 minutes in advance.

This is the best explanation I have heard. Why else would he be in the phone minutes before.

And taking the bus means no car tracking or license plates.

If he had a spotter, this isn’t really about a denied claim.

Media is reporting the bullet casings and live rounds found at the scene had “deny” “defend” “depose” written on them, so seems like the killer’s motive (or motive of whoever hired the killer) is indeed along those lines.

Could that be diversionary if related to the cyberattack/Russia hackers?
One of the slogans was off I thought?
And LE wasn’t convinced it wasnt a diversionary tactic? At least yet.

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Anonymous wrote:He didn’t wear gloves in the pictures where he shoots him. Surprised, I thought that was Murderer 101. Perhaps he went bare to have more dexterity with the chamber reloading

Definitely for dexterity. It was cold that morning. Which is likely why he went inside the Starbucks for a bit to remain warmed up.

I think he had a spotter at the other hotel. That’s who was speaking to on the phone. And that’s how he knew the target was on the move and able to get into position only 5 minutes in advance.

This is the best explanation I have heard. Why else would he be in the phone minutes before.

And taking the bus means no car tracking or license plates.

If he had a spotter, this isn’t really about a denied claim.

Media is reporting the bullet casings and live rounds found at the scene had “deny” “defend” “depose” written on them, so seems like the killer’s motive (or motive of whoever hired the killer) is indeed along those lines.

Or it's a red herring.

Yes. A former FBI agent suggested that on X.

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Anonymous wrote:He didn’t wear gloves in the pictures where he shoots him. Surprised, I thought that was Murderer 101. Perhaps he went bare to have more dexterity with the chamber reloading

Definitely for dexterity. It was cold that morning. Which is likely why he went inside the Starbucks for a bit to remain warmed up.

I think he had a spotter at the other hotel. That’s who was speaking to on the phone. And that’s how he knew the target was on the move and able to get into position only 5 minutes in advance.

This is the best explanation I have heard. Why else would he be in the phone minutes before.

And taking the bus means no car tracking or license plates.

If he had a spotter, this isn’t really about a denied claim.

Media is reporting the bullet casings and live rounds found at the scene had “deny” “defend” “depose” written on them, so seems like the killer’s motive (or motive of whoever hired the killer) is indeed along those lines.

Or it's a red herring.

Did you see this?

https://x.com/brianosheaspi/status/1864856460397609112?s=46&t=B_UPLhyHnaYTWZGHGKR0lQ

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Anonymous wrote:HE WAS MURDERED.
Have some decency please.

He had no decency. He was getting rich off the backs of denied claims and the devastation caused to the claimants. Unfettered greed.

Is United known to be worse than other insurance companies about denying claims or would PPs say this about any insurance exec?

United is widely known to be the one of the worst offenders.

I know the Kaiser execs have 24 hour security now.

Airline execs are now getting 24/7 security. Pharma is next. Hospital systems already talking about it.
These costs get passed on.

just like tracking on unstable countries in Asia, Africa, LatAm and the Mideast!

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Anonymous wrote:He didn’t wear gloves in the pictures where he shoots him. Surprised, I thought that was Murderer 101. Perhaps he went bare to have more dexterity with the chamber reloading

Definitely for dexterity. It was cold that morning. Which is likely why he went inside the Starbucks for a bit to remain warmed up.

I think he had a spotter at the other hotel. That’s who was speaking to on the phone. And that’s how he knew the target was on the move and able to get into position only 5 minutes in advance.

This is the best explanation I have heard. Why else would he be in the phone minutes before.

And taking the bus means no car tracking or license plates.

If he had a spotter, this isn’t really about a denied claim.

Media is reporting the bullet casings and live rounds found at the scene had “deny” “defend” “depose” written on them, so seems like the killer’s motive (or motive of whoever hired the killer) is indeed along those lines.

Could that be diversionary if related to the cyberattack/Russia hackers?
One of the slogans was off I thought?
And LE wasn’t convinced it wasnt a diversionary tactic? At least yet.

It’s off but purposefully so (“depose” replaces “delay”) and makes sense in this context. But yes, could be diversionary.

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Anonymous wrote:The killer was probably from abroad. He’s long gone, back home.

He looks like he’s from the Levant - Israeli, Lebanese, or maybe Persian. Someone who has an interest in fomenting social unrest in the U.S.

I’d love to see video of how he was flirting with the girl at the desk. Absolutely reminds me of the forwardness of Israeli men; they had the gift of gab and are good flirts. Those teeth are not cheap - he’s had orthodontia.

Would also explain his familiarity with firearms. But it’s clear he did not have time to test the weapon, given that he was missing a critical piece to prevent the firearm from jamming with a suppressor. It’s not his gun.

This

Agree.

Am sure the CIA is on the case w face recog of all transatlantic flights from Newark and JFK those immediate next 6 hours.
And so is EU and other friendlies.

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Random hit.

Power move

Attempt to destabilize

Test case to see how nuts social media and mass media follows it

Test case if America will cannibalize itself with chaos and internal theories.

Deemed a success thus far.

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Anonymous wrote:This couldn't have happened at a worse time for UHC. December 15 is the open enrollment deadline for the exchange and for many corporate plans. That ubiquitous denial rate graphic is going to hurt.

UnitedHealthcare seems to be the worst of the worst among health insurance companies. Their denial rates are extreme.

The spotlight is on them presently. I suspect any company that uses them is going to have a hard time recruiting and retaining talent going forward.

When people are rooting for the shooter of your CEO, you know things have gone horribly wrong as a company.

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Anonymous wrote:This couldn't have happened at a worse time for UHC. December 15 is the open enrollment deadline for the exchange and for many corporate plans. That ubiquitous denial rate graphic is going to hurt.

Yes. I’ve had no issues with United so far but after seeing their stats, I’m considering switching my FEHB plan before open enrollment ends Monday.

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Anonymous wrote:He didn’t wear gloves in the pictures where he shoots him. Surprised, I thought that was Murderer 101. Perhaps he went bare to have more dexterity with the chamber reloading

Definitely for dexterity. It was cold that morning. Which is likely why he went inside the Starbucks for a bit to remain warmed up.

I think he had a spotter at the other hotel. That’s who was speaking to on the phone. And that’s how he knew the target was on the move and able to get into position only 5 minutes in advance.

This is the best explanation I have heard. Why else would he be in the phone minutes before.

And taking the bus means no car tracking or license plates.

If he had a spotter, this isn’t really about a denied claim.

Media is reporting the bullet casings and live rounds found at the scene had “deny” “defend” “depose” written on them, so seems like the killer’s motive (or motive of whoever hired the killer) is indeed along those lines.

Could that be diversionary if related to the cyberattack/Russia hackers?
One of the slogans was off I thought?
And LE wasn’t convinced it wasnt a diversionary tactic? At least yet.

This is Mideast-related shooter and power move, and he’s back there now laughing his @$$ off at all you myopic, self-centered, fixated insurance hater wannabes.

I think this is right.