Massive home addition causes confusion in Fairfax County neighborhood

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Anonymous wrote:The thing people are missing is this is clearly elder abuse. The older parents own the home. Not that son in the news. He is not a neighbor, homeowner or anything. He is just a mooch who is somehow tore apart that home into a ugly mess and left his parents with a ton of legal issues, unwanted publicity, angry neighbors and for now a unsellable house.

The ownership has switched back and forth between son and parents several times. Unclear why, but I certainly wouldn’t say this situation is indicative of elder abuse.

So would you go to your MIL or FIL and ask for house to be put in your name for free?

Have you heard of inheritance? In any case, maybe they wanted to switch off who had tax liability.

Anything about elder abuse is pure speculation.

Inheritance is after someone has died, not before.

Early inheritance and substantial gifts from parents while living absolutely is a thing.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing people are missing is this is clearly elder abuse. The older parents own the home. Not that son in the news. He is not a neighbor, homeowner or anything. He is just a mooch who is somehow tore apart that home into a ugly mess and left his parents with a ton of legal issues, unwanted publicity, angry neighbors and for now a unsellable house.

The ownership has switched back and forth between son and parents several times. Unclear why, but I certainly wouldn’t say this situation is indicative of elder abuse.

So would you go to your MIL or FIL and ask for house to be put in your name for free?

Have you heard of inheritance? In any case, maybe they wanted to switch off who had tax liability.

Anything about elder abuse is pure speculation.

Pure fact the owners of house are parents. Not son.

They seem to have mixed finances, which isn't surprising given they're a single household. I'm not sure what point you're getting at. It certainly isn't indicative of elder abuse or fraud.

Sometimes elderly people don’t understand decisions that an adult child is making for them. If an elderly person owns a house and their adult children come in and start making changes that are not necessarily in the best interest of the elderly owner, that could be seen as elder abuse, especially if there is any evidence of cognitive decline on the part of the owner.

It really depends a lot on the ages of the elderly people involved and how much cognitive decline they are experiencing, among other factors.

The reality is, this is the sort of change that seems to help the elderly parents more than Mike. It addresses the immediate needs of the family, including housing and caregiving for the elderly parents, at the cost of an addition that may provide a lower return in the future when the next owner goes to sell.

Elder abuse isn't a credible claim here.

Weren’t the elderly parents already living in the home? I assume they already had a bedroom. So they didn’t have a need for housing, since they were already living in a home they owned and they already had Mike and his family living with them.
The elderly people are not really in need of more space, but it seems that adding more space might make it nicer for the adult kids and grandkids.

It really depends on how much the elderly owners understand about what is happening to their property. How old are they?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The thing people are missing is this is clearly elder abuse. The older parents own the home. Not that son in the news. He is not a neighbor, homeowner or anything. He is just a mooch who is somehow tore apart that home into a ugly mess and left his parents with a ton of legal issues, unwanted publicity, angry neighbors and for now a unsellable house.

The ownership has switched back and forth between son and parents several times. Unclear why, but I certainly wouldn’t say this situation is indicative of elder abuse.

So would you go to your MIL or FIL and ask for house to be put in your name for free?

Have you heard of inheritance? In any case, maybe they wanted to switch off who had tax liability.

Anything about elder abuse is pure speculation.

Inheritance is after someone has died, not before.

Early inheritance and substantial gifts from parents while living absolutely is a thing.

By definition, you can receive a gift from someone who is alive, but you can’t receive an inheritance, not even an « early » one. An inheritance is something received from a person who has died.

« Inheritance is the practice of receiving private property, titles, debts, entitlements, privileges, rights, and obligations upon the death of an individual. » Wikipedia

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Anonymous wrote:The thing people are missing is this is clearly elder abuse. The older parents own the home. Not that son in the news. He is not a neighbor, homeowner or anything. He is just a mooch who is somehow tore apart that home into a ugly mess and left his parents with a ton of legal issues, unwanted publicity, angry neighbors and for now a unsellable house.

The ownership has switched back and forth between son and parents several times. Unclear why, but I certainly wouldn’t say this situation is indicative of elder abuse.

So would you go to your MIL or FIL and ask for house to be put in your name for free?

Have you heard of inheritance? In any case, maybe they wanted to switch off who had tax liability.

Anything about elder abuse is pure speculation.

Pure fact the owners of house are parents. Not son.

They seem to have mixed finances, which isn't surprising given they're a single household. I'm not sure what point you're getting at. It certainly isn't indicative of elder abuse or fraud.

Sometimes elderly people don’t understand decisions that an adult child is making for them. If an elderly person owns a house and their adult children come in and start making changes that are not necessarily in the best interest of the elderly owner, that could be seen as elder abuse, especially if there is any evidence of cognitive decline on the part of the owner.

It really depends a lot on the ages of the elderly people involved and how much cognitive decline they are experiencing, among other factors.

The reality is, this is the sort of change that seems to help the elderly parents more than Mike. It addresses the immediate needs of the family, including housing and caregiving for the elderly parents, at the cost of an addition that may provide a lower return in the future when the next owner goes to sell.

Elder abuse isn't a credible claim here.

Weren’t the elderly parents already living in the home? I assume they already had a bedroom. So they didn’t have a need for housing, since they were already living in a home they owned and they already had Mike and his family living with them.
The elderly people are not really in need of more space, but it seems that adding more space might make it nicer for the adult kids and grandkids.

It really depends on how much the elderly owners understand about what is happening to their property. How old are they?

You don't really believe this is a case of elder abuse, just like the other poster doesn't really believe it would have been impossible to build something narrower. There are so many disingenuous trolls that are part of this discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing people are missing is this is clearly elder abuse. The older parents own the home. Not that son in the news. He is not a neighbor, homeowner or anything. He is just a mooch who is somehow tore apart that home into a ugly mess and left his parents with a ton of legal issues, unwanted publicity, angry neighbors and for now a unsellable house.

The ownership has switched back and forth between son and parents several times. Unclear why, but I certainly wouldn’t say this situation is indicative of elder abuse.

So would you go to your MIL or FIL and ask for house to be put in your name for free?

Have you heard of inheritance? In any case, maybe they wanted to switch off who had tax liability.

Anything about elder abuse is pure speculation.

Pure fact the owners of house are parents. Not son.

They seem to have mixed finances, which isn't surprising given they're a single household. I'm not sure what point you're getting at. It certainly isn't indicative of elder abuse or fraud.

Sometimes elderly people don’t understand decisions that an adult child is making for them. If an elderly person owns a house and their adult children come in and start making changes that are not necessarily in the best interest of the elderly owner, that could be seen as elder abuse, especially if there is any evidence of cognitive decline on the part of the owner.

It really depends a lot on the ages of the elderly people involved and how much cognitive decline they are experiencing, among other factors.

The reality is, this is the sort of change that seems to help the elderly parents more than Mike. It addresses the immediate needs of the family, including housing and caregiving for the elderly parents, at the cost of an addition that may provide a lower return in the future when the next owner goes to sell.

Elder abuse isn't a credible claim here.

Weren’t the elderly parents already living in the home? I assume they already had a bedroom. So they didn’t have a need for housing, since they were already living in a home they owned and they already had Mike and his family living with them.
The elderly people are not really in need of more space, but it seems that adding more space might make it nicer for the adult kids and grandkids.

It really depends on how much the elderly owners understand about what is happening to their property. How old are they?

You don't really believe this is a case of elder abuse, just like the other poster doesn't really believe it would have been impossible to build something narrower. There are so many disingenuous trolls that are part of this discussion.

So you’re avoiding answering questions about the ages of the owners of the property.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you do a search on Ashley Greenbriar Fairfax you can see many great houses with additions and modifications. Those homes are quite different in expansion potential than typical Arlington teardowns.

One neighborhood in ARL has a large number of teardowns and renos with additions. Teardowns were 2-3 bd and 1 -2 baths. 1200 sq feet or less. No garage. Renos changed rooflines, kept garages. Large new builds on teardown sites either did attached narrow lot line with 1 car garage or a free standing.

I don't see a lot of Ashley models with significant modifications. The most significant one is 4214 Plaza Ln. I think that's pretty well done, but those bedrooms are awfully small. The dormers help, but reallocating space to upstairs from one bedroom to create a hallway makes both original rooms quite small.

I mean, how big does a bedroom need to be? Most people just sleep in their bedrooms but spend most of their day in the rest of the house.

Think about the situation here. There won't be as many living spaces relative to residents as a typical house. The bigger the household, the more people will use their bedrooms- especially among teens and adults. You're generally going to want room for a bed (full or queen for the adults), nightstand, desk, 1-2 dressers, TV, and probably a chair of some sort. At least two of these rooms need to be suitable for a pair of adults.

The bedrooms in 4214 Plaza Ln don't end up very functional for anyone but kids.

They are adding a ton of space to what is already and expanded house. Again, how big does a bedroom really need to be? It’s not like people sit around all day in their bedroom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The thing people are missing is this is clearly elder abuse. The older parents own the home. Not that son in the news. He is not a neighbor, homeowner or anything. He is just a mooch who is somehow tore apart that home into a ugly mess and left his parents with a ton of legal issues, unwanted publicity, angry neighbors and for now a unsellable house.

The ownership has switched back and forth between son and parents several times. Unclear why, but I certainly wouldn’t say this situation is indicative of elder abuse.

So would you go to your MIL or FIL and ask for house to be put in your name for free?

Have you heard of inheritance? In any case, maybe they wanted to switch off who had tax liability.

Anything about elder abuse is pure speculation.

Pure fact the owners of house are parents. Not son.

They seem to have mixed finances, which isn't surprising given they're a single household. I'm not sure what point you're getting at. It certainly isn't indicative of elder abuse or fraud.

Sometimes elderly people don’t understand decisions that an adult child is making for them. If an elderly person owns a house and their adult children come in and start making changes that are not necessarily in the best interest of the elderly owner, that could be seen as elder abuse, especially if there is any evidence of cognitive decline on the part of the owner.

It really depends a lot on the ages of the elderly people involved and how much cognitive decline they are experiencing, among other factors.

The reality is, this is the sort of change that seems to help the elderly parents more than Mike. It addresses the immediate needs of the family, including housing and caregiving for the elderly parents, at the cost of an addition that may provide a lower return in the future when the next owner goes to sell.

Elder abuse isn't a credible claim here.

Weren’t the elderly parents already living in the home? I assume they already had a bedroom. So they didn’t have a need for housing, since they were already living in a home they owned and they already had Mike and his family living with them.
The elderly people are not really in need of more space, but it seems that adding more space might make it nicer for the adult kids and grandkids.

It really depends on how much the elderly owners understand about what is happening to their property. How old are they?

You don't really believe this is a case of elder abuse, just like the other poster doesn't really believe it would have been impossible to build something narrower. There are so many disingenuous trolls that are part of this discussion.

So you’re avoiding answering questions about the ages of the owners of the property.

I'm not avoiding it. I just don't know them any more than you do. If you think it's relevant, why don't you look it up?

But it is irrelevant. No has made a plausible case for even suspecting elder abuse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you do a search on Ashley Greenbriar Fairfax you can see many great houses with additions and modifications. Those homes are quite different in expansion potential than typical Arlington teardowns.

One neighborhood in ARL has a large number of teardowns and renos with additions. Teardowns were 2-3 bd and 1 -2 baths. 1200 sq feet or less. No garage. Renos changed rooflines, kept garages. Large new builds on teardown sites either did attached narrow lot line with 1 car garage or a free standing.

I don't see a lot of Ashley models with significant modifications. The most significant one is 4214 Plaza Ln. I think that's pretty well done, but those bedrooms are awfully small. The dormers help, but reallocating space to upstairs from one bedroom to create a hallway makes both original rooms quite small.

I mean, how big does a bedroom need to be? Most people just sleep in their bedrooms but spend most of their day in the rest of the house.

Think about the situation here. There won't be as many living spaces relative to residents as a typical house. The bigger the household, the more people will use their bedrooms- especially among teens and adults. You're generally going to want room for a bed (full or queen for the adults), nightstand, desk, 1-2 dressers, TV, and probably a chair of some sort. At least two of these rooms need to be suitable for a pair of adults.

The bedrooms in 4214 Plaza Ln don't end up very functional for anyone but kids.

They are adding a ton of space to what is already and expanded house. Again, how big does a bedroom really need to be? It’s not like people sit around all day in their bedroom.

You're being deliberately obtuse. Even someone that grew up in Ashley home acknowledged they would want more space.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you do a search on Ashley Greenbriar Fairfax you can see many great houses with additions and modifications. Those homes are quite different in expansion potential than typical Arlington teardowns.

One neighborhood in ARL has a large number of teardowns and renos with additions. Teardowns were 2-3 bd and 1 -2 baths. 1200 sq feet or less. No garage. Renos changed rooflines, kept garages. Large new builds on teardown sites either did attached narrow lot line with 1 car garage or a free standing.

I don't see a lot of Ashley models with significant modifications. The most significant one is 4214 Plaza Ln. I think that's pretty well done, but those bedrooms are awfully small. The dormers help, but reallocating space to upstairs from one bedroom to create a hallway makes both original rooms quite small.

I mean, how big does a bedroom need to be? Most people just sleep in their bedrooms but spend most of their day in the rest of the house.

Think about the situation here. There won't be as many living spaces relative to residents as a typical house. The bigger the household, the more people will use their bedrooms- especially among teens and adults. You're generally going to want room for a bed (full or queen for the adults), nightstand, desk, 1-2 dressers, TV, and probably a chair of some sort. At least two of these rooms need to be suitable for a pair of adults.

The bedrooms in 4214 Plaza Ln don't end up very functional for anyone but kids.

They are adding a ton of space to what is already and expanded house. Again, how big does a bedroom really need to be? It’s not like people sit around all day in their bedroom.

You're being deliberately obtuse. Even someone that grew up in Ashley home acknowledged they would want more space.

You misunderstand. The question is why do the bedrooms in the addition need to be so big. Someone up thread said that the bedrooms in the Ashley models with additions were not big enough, so just asking why not?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you do a search on Ashley Greenbriar Fairfax you can see many great houses with additions and modifications. Those homes are quite different in expansion potential than typical Arlington teardowns.

One neighborhood in ARL has a large number of teardowns and renos with additions. Teardowns were 2-3 bd and 1 -2 baths. 1200 sq feet or less. No garage. Renos changed rooflines, kept garages. Large new builds on teardown sites either did attached narrow lot line with 1 car garage or a free standing.

I don't see a lot of Ashley models with significant modifications. The most significant one is 4214 Plaza Ln. I think that's pretty well done, but those bedrooms are awfully small. The dormers help, but reallocating space to upstairs from one bedroom to create a hallway makes both original rooms quite small.

I mean, how big does a bedroom need to be? Most people just sleep in their bedrooms but spend most of their day in the rest of the house.

Think about the situation here. There won't be as many living spaces relative to residents as a typical house. The bigger the household, the more people will use their bedrooms- especially among teens and adults. You're generally going to want room for a bed (full or queen for the adults), nightstand, desk, 1-2 dressers, TV, and probably a chair of some sort. At least two of these rooms need to be suitable for a pair of adults.

The bedrooms in 4214 Plaza Ln don't end up very functional for anyone but kids.

They are adding a ton of space to what is already and expanded house. Again, how big does a bedroom really need to be? It’s not like people sit around all day in their bedroom.

You're being deliberately obtuse. Even someone that grew up in Ashley home acknowledged they would want more space.

You misunderstand. The question is why do the bedrooms in the addition need to be so big. Someone up thread said that the bedrooms in the Ashley models with additions were not big enough, so just asking why not?

The largest bedroom is upstairs and has sloped ceilings. One bedroom on the main level is moderate- 12x11. The other two bedrooms are quite small- basically just enough for a twin bed and dresser.

If you only want a single stairwell between the house and addition, you'll need to add a hallway through the middle of the large upstairs bedroom.

Typically, secondary bedrooms in homes are meant for kids. Particularly in children older homes, they're expecting a twin bed and not much else. That's not the situation for this family, where there will be several adults. That means they'll need more and larger bedrooms. Adults generally don't want to share bathrooms with a bunch of other people, too, which is why I'm not surprised there are a bunch of bathrooms in this. New homes even expecting traditional families tend to have a high bathroom to bedroom ratio.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing people are missing is this is clearly elder abuse. The older parents own the home. Not that son in the news. He is not a neighbor, homeowner or anything. He is just a mooch who is somehow tore apart that home into a ugly mess and left his parents with a ton of legal issues, unwanted publicity, angry neighbors and for now a unsellable house.

The ownership has switched back and forth between son and parents several times. Unclear why, but I certainly wouldn’t say this situation is indicative of elder abuse.

So would you go to your MIL or FIL and ask for house to be put in your name for free?

Have you heard of inheritance? In any case, maybe they wanted to switch off who had tax liability.

Anything about elder abuse is pure speculation.

Inheritance is after someone has died, not before.

Early inheritance and substantial gifts from parents while living absolutely is a thing.

By definition, you can receive a gift from someone who is alive, but you can’t receive an inheritance, not even an « early » one. An inheritance is something received from a person who has died.

« Inheritance is the practice of receiving private property, titles, debts, entitlements, privileges, rights, and obligations upon the death of an individual. » Wikipedia

It’s a colloquial term and everyone understands what it means. There’s no need to be pedantic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My friend lived in an Ashley and did a major Reno that basically turned it into a colonial with 5 brs.

Did they have to do major foundation work to create the full second level?

She lives in FL now, but we text still. I could ask her.

I have been told that the reason this neighborhood was slab built was because the ground was difficult to dig. I cannot verify this claim, though I do know it is definitely difficult to stick metal signs in the ground during election season.

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Anonymous wrote:If you do a search on Ashley Greenbriar Fairfax you can see many great houses with additions and modifications. Those homes are quite different in expansion potential than typical Arlington teardowns.

One neighborhood in ARL has a large number of teardowns and renos with additions. Teardowns were 2-3 bd and 1 -2 baths. 1200 sq feet or less. No garage. Renos changed rooflines, kept garages. Large new builds on teardown sites either did attached narrow lot line with 1 car garage or a free standing.

I don't see a lot of Ashley models with significant modifications. The most significant one is 4214 Plaza Ln. I think that's pretty well done, but those bedrooms are awfully small. The dormers help, but reallocating space to upstairs from one bedroom to create a hallway makes both original rooms quite small.

I mean, how big does a bedroom need to be? Most people just sleep in their bedrooms but spend most of their day in the rest of the house.

Think about the situation here. There won't be as many living spaces relative to residents as a typical house. The bigger the household, the more people will use their bedrooms- especially among teens and adults. You're generally going to want room for a bed (full or queen for the adults), nightstand, desk, 1-2 dressers, TV, and probably a chair of some sort. At least two of these rooms need to be suitable for a pair of adults.

The bedrooms in 4214 Plaza Ln don't end up very functional for anyone but kids.

They are adding a ton of space to what is already and expanded house. Again, how big does a bedroom really need to be? It’s not like people sit around all day in their bedroom.

You're being deliberately obtuse. Even someone that grew up in Ashley home acknowledged they would want more space.

You misunderstand. The question is why do the bedrooms in the addition need to be so big. Someone up thread said that the bedrooms in the Ashley models with additions were not big enough, so just asking why not?

The largest bedroom is upstairs and has sloped ceilings. One bedroom on the main level is moderate- 12x11. The other two bedrooms are quite small- basically just enough for a twin bed and dresser.

If you only want a single stairwell between the house and addition, you'll need to add a hallway through the middle of the large upstairs bedroom.

Typically, secondary bedrooms in homes are meant for kids. Particularly in children older homes, they're expecting a twin bed and not much else. That's not the situation for this family, where there will be several adults. That means they'll need more and larger bedrooms. Adults generally don't want to share bathrooms with a bunch of other people, too, which is why I'm not surprised there are a bunch of bathrooms in this. New homes even expecting traditional families tend to have a high bathroom to bedroom ratio.

Again, you seem confused. The question is why the bedrooms in the addition need to be so big. It’s not like people live in their bedrooms. People spend must of the day in the other parts of a house, not sitting around in their bedrooms.

There are two couples and two children living in this house. There will be six new bathrooms plus two and a half bathrooms in the original section of the house. That’s 8 1/2 bathrooms for four adults and two young children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you do a search on Ashley Greenbriar Fairfax you can see many great houses with additions and modifications. Those homes are quite different in expansion potential than typical Arlington teardowns.

One neighborhood in ARL has a large number of teardowns and renos with additions. Teardowns were 2-3 bd and 1 -2 baths. 1200 sq feet or less. No garage. Renos changed rooflines, kept garages. Large new builds on teardown sites either did attached narrow lot line with 1 car garage or a free standing.

I don't see a lot of Ashley models with significant modifications. The most significant one is 4214 Plaza Ln. I think that's pretty well done, but those bedrooms are awfully small. The dormers help, but reallocating space to upstairs from one bedroom to create a hallway makes both original rooms quite small.

I mean, how big does a bedroom need to be? Most people just sleep in their bedrooms but spend most of their day in the rest of the house.

Think about the situation here. There won't be as many living spaces relative to residents as a typical house. The bigger the household, the more people will use their bedrooms- especially among teens and adults. You're generally going to want room for a bed (full or queen for the adults), nightstand, desk, 1-2 dressers, TV, and probably a chair of some sort. At least two of these rooms need to be suitable for a pair of adults.

The bedrooms in 4214 Plaza Ln don't end up very functional for anyone but kids.

They are adding a ton of space to what is already and expanded house. Again, how big does a bedroom really need to be? It’s not like people sit around all day in their bedroom.

You're being deliberately obtuse. Even someone that grew up in Ashley home acknowledged they would want more space.

You misunderstand. The question is why do the bedrooms in the addition need to be so big. Someone up thread said that the bedrooms in the Ashley models with additions were not big enough, so just asking why not?

The largest bedroom is upstairs and has sloped ceilings. One bedroom on the main level is moderate- 12x11. The other two bedrooms are quite small- basically just enough for a twin bed and dresser.

If you only want a single stairwell between the house and addition, you'll need to add a hallway through the middle of the large upstairs bedroom.

Typically, secondary bedrooms in homes are meant for kids. Particularly in children older homes, they're expecting a twin bed and not much else. That's not the situation for this family, where there will be several adults. That means they'll need more and larger bedrooms. Adults generally don't want to share bathrooms with a bunch of other people, too, which is why I'm not surprised there are a bunch of bathrooms in this. New homes even expecting traditional families tend to have a high bathroom to bedroom ratio.

Again, you seem confused. The question is why the bedrooms in the addition need to be so big. It’s not like people live in their bedrooms. People spend must of the day in the other parts of a house, not sitting around in their bedrooms.

There are two couples and two children living in this house. There will be six new bathrooms plus two and a half bathrooms in the original section of the house. That’s 8 1/2 bathrooms for four adults and two young children.

Your mistaken. When you live in a crowded house, you spend more time on your bedroom. Furthermore, adult bedrooms are typically bigger than children's bedrooms, for a variety of reasons.

We don't know how many bedrooms and bathrooms the house will have after this addition and the associated renovations.

Also, I don't know how many adults will be there. Is Mike the one with kids, or is his sibling moving in with their family? And I think his brother is already living there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you do a search on Ashley Greenbriar Fairfax you can see many great houses with additions and modifications. Those homes are quite different in expansion potential than typical Arlington teardowns.

One neighborhood in ARL has a large number of teardowns and renos with additions. Teardowns were 2-3 bd and 1 -2 baths. 1200 sq feet or less. No garage. Renos changed rooflines, kept garages. Large new builds on teardown sites either did attached narrow lot line with 1 car garage or a free standing.

I don't see a lot of Ashley models with significant modifications. The most significant one is 4214 Plaza Ln. I think that's pretty well done, but those bedrooms are awfully small. The dormers help, but reallocating space to upstairs from one bedroom to create a hallway makes both original rooms quite small.

I mean, how big does a bedroom need to be? Most people just sleep in their bedrooms but spend most of their day in the rest of the house.

Think about the situation here. There won't be as many living spaces relative to residents as a typical house. The bigger the household, the more people will use their bedrooms- especially among teens and adults. You're generally going to want room for a bed (full or queen for the adults), nightstand, desk, 1-2 dressers, TV, and probably a chair of some sort. At least two of these rooms need to be suitable for a pair of adults.

The bedrooms in 4214 Plaza Ln don't end up very functional for anyone but kids.

They are adding a ton of space to what is already and expanded house. Again, how big does a bedroom really need to be? It’s not like people sit around all day in their bedroom.

You're being deliberately obtuse. Even someone that grew up in Ashley home acknowledged they would want more space.

You misunderstand. The question is why do the bedrooms in the addition need to be so big. Someone up thread said that the bedrooms in the Ashley models with additions were not big enough, so just asking why not?

The largest bedroom is upstairs and has sloped ceilings. One bedroom on the main level is moderate- 12x11. The other two bedrooms are quite small- basically just enough for a twin bed and dresser.

If you only want a single stairwell between the house and addition, you'll need to add a hallway through the middle of the large upstairs bedroom.

Typically, secondary bedrooms in homes are meant for kids. Particularly in children older homes, they're expecting a twin bed and not much else. That's not the situation for this family, where there will be several adults. That means they'll need more and larger bedrooms. Adults generally don't want to share bathrooms with a bunch of other people, too, which is why I'm not surprised there are a bunch of bathrooms in this. New homes even expecting traditional families tend to have a high bathroom to bedroom ratio.

Again, you seem confused. The question is why the bedrooms in the addition need to be so big. It’s not like people live in their bedrooms. People spend must of the day in the other parts of a house, not sitting around in their bedrooms.

There are two couples and two children living in this house. There will be six new bathrooms plus two and a half bathrooms in the original section of the house. That’s 8 1/2 bathrooms for four adults and two young children.

Your mistaken. When you live in a crowded house, you spend more time on your bedroom. Furthermore, adult bedrooms are typically bigger than children's bedrooms, for a variety of reasons.

We don't know how many bedrooms and bathrooms the house will have after this addition and the associated renovations.

Also, I don't know how many adults will be there. Is Mike the one with kids, or is his sibling moving in with their family? And I think his brother is already living there.

On one of the videos, Mike said that there was one elderly couple, he and his wife and their two young children living in the house. I don’t believe there was a mention of a brother or any other sibling with a family.

If people have formed one household together, they will spend time in the common areas in the house, not all apart in separate bedrooms all day long. It’s not like people are living in their bedrooms all day, right?