Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you think she’s making Tyler wait for sex? I mean, assuming he isn’t gay and assuming they’re planning to get married?

There is nothing “Christian” left of Jen. She slams “purity culture” just as much as the “toxic church systems”.
That being said, I think she wants us to think she’s having sex with Tyler. But I don’t think they are because he seems very….gay.

Maybe she is. Maybe she isn’t. But I’ll tell you one thing that I know as sure as the the sun rises in the East; and that is Brandon is knocking the bottom out of his Miss Thang. Brandon has broke free from 40+ years of being shackled by the chains of religion and church. He’s tapping that a** with every ounce of git up he’s got. His flat brim cap is pulled down over his ears and erythang.

Ha! I think you’ve nailed it (pun intended).

[Anonymous]

people involved in "religion and church" can have full and active sex lives. who says he wasn't "tapping that a** with every ounce of git up" he had.

sheesh!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t Shona and Jenny doing an intervention of sorts? They’ve been at her side since they first started ANC. Where’s Tray in all this. Although a trust fund baby, he is the most real of any of the tribe, IMO. They have got to see this unhealthy behavior of hers.

Our experience at ANC led us to think Tray was a pompous ass. The last person who should ever have pretended to be a pastor. And his "sermons" - torture to sit thru. I swear they made them up on the spot. Tray and Brandon both put hours into their hermeneutics /s/

Jen was never involved at ANC. She'd show up on Sundays and of course at homeless cookouts for the optics and Insta but she was not serving in or out of the church it in any way whatsoever that I ever saw. She just wasn't into it. Nor did she show up to bible studies etc or hang out with hardly anyone who wasn't Pruett or Shelton. A few core members of the church did all the work. When they left, it imploded. Now it's a house of cards.

Her book Interrupted is all about being a SJW helping the least of these ... never saw it. Ever. She was way above all that. Others in that church constantly served their butts off. Jen? Nah.

Spot on. Tray’s sermons were dreadful. But, both Brandon’s and even Matthew’s sermons became so repetitive. They said the same thing over and over and over again. And I agree that Jenn’s clique didn’t do much other than being there for a photo. A lot of good folks volunteered their time and genuinely out in a lot of effort on the “5th Sunday” community service events. We participated for more than 2 yrs. They were very rarely around. And as for the Easter cookouts downtown, Jenn was merely there to be seen and wax poetically about how much we were helping. But she wasn’t getting dirty. And you’re right- if you weren’t Jenny or Shonna, forget it.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for all the former ANC people shooting straight with us as to what was really happening. All Jen’s image crafting led us to believe something entirely different in her posts. You have nothing to gain so I believe you.

[Anonymous]

I appreciate the former ANC people telling their sides of the story. Quite different from what was portrayed in social media.

[Anonymous]

At the time, I thought he cheated with Rachel Hollis. It seems her and Jen's relationship crashed after both of their marriages ended.

[Anonymous]

Tyler's post today about Brad Pitt is not helping him ward off the gay accusations.

[Anonymous]

What does Brandon do for a living now? Is he still a pastor?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What does Brandon do for a living now? Is he still a pastor?

Don’t think he’s pastoring. He’s some how a “Sr VP” of a land company in the Hill Country selling mini-ranches. It is really an insult to real VP level executives who work years and are generally really smart to earn that kind of title. Brandon, on the other hand, knows someone who hooked him up. He has no real managerial or VP level experience in business or sales operations. But whatever. Call yourself VP, he’s really a sales guy. And, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with being a sales person. Sales make the world go round in my opinion and is a very tough profession. I think he’s a f-in joke. All he does is post romantic photos of the rustic-ish front porch of their sales office, with captions like, “this is my office, everyday. Come find your piece of paradise.” He tries to make cool photos but somehow always strategically positions his $80K Jacked Up Ford diesel truck in the background… as if he’s ever pulled anything that remotely requires a 3/4 ton diesel.

Prior to this gig, it looked like he was trying his hand at high end remodels of bathrooms and kitchens. Guess that didn’t work out. Sure talked a good came tho.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What does Brandon do for a living now? Is he still a pastor?

Don’t think he’s pastoring. He’s some how a “Sr VP” of a land company in the Hill Country selling mini-ranches. It is really an insult to real VP level executives who work years and are generally really smart to earn that kind of title. Brandon, on the other hand, knows someone who hooked him up. He has no real managerial or VP level experience in business or sales operations. But whatever. Call yourself VP, he’s really a sales guy. And, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with being a sales person. Sales make the world go round in my opinion and is a very tough profession. I think he’s a f-in joke. All he does is post romantic photos of the rustic-ish front porch of their sales office, with captions like, “this is my office, everyday. Come find your piece of paradise.” He tries to make cool photos but somehow always strategically positions his $80K Jacked Up Ford diesel truck in the background… as if he’s ever pulled anything that remotely requires a 3/4 ton diesel.

Prior to this gig, it looked like he was trying his hand at high end remodels of bathrooms and kitchens. Guess that didn’t work out. Sure talked a good came tho.

Wow. Who just tried to pivot the hate from Jen to Brandon??? I’ve got a good guess…. 🤔🤣 GO AWAY JEN this thread is hate towards you, not Brandon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What does Brandon do for a living now? Is he still a pastor?

Jen setting herself up to go in for the kill…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does Brandon do for a living now? Is he still a pastor?

Don’t think he’s pastoring. He’s some how a “Sr VP” of a land company in the Hill Country selling mini-ranches. It is really an insult to real VP level executives who work years and are generally really smart to earn that kind of title. Brandon, on the other hand, knows someone who hooked him up. He has no real managerial or VP level experience in business or sales operations. But whatever. Call yourself VP, he’s really a sales guy. And, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with being a sales person. Sales make the world go round in my opinion and is a very tough profession. I think he’s a f-in joke. All he does is post romantic photos of the rustic-ish front porch of their sales office, with captions like, “this is my office, everyday. Come find your piece of paradise.” He tries to make cool photos but somehow always strategically positions his $80K Jacked Up Ford diesel truck in the background… as if he’s ever pulled anything that remotely requires a 3/4 ton diesel.

Prior to this gig, it looked like he was trying his hand at high end remodels of bathrooms and kitchens. Guess that didn’t work out. Sure talked a good came tho.

Wow. Who just tried to pivot the hate from Jen to Brandon??? I’ve got a good guess…. 🤔🤣 GO AWAY JEN this thread is hate towards you, not Brandon.

Plenty to go around here.

[Anonymous]

This thread is not to hate on Jen but to help understand what has happened to Jen. This has been a safe place to question things without her social media vultures picking us apart in their blind loyalty. Some of us were drawn to her through Bible studies years ago. Her 7 series had these cute clips in her home where she seemed unpretentious and genuinely concerned with helping others. Even their reality show gave a glimpse of her easy comfort and healthy bond with Brandon. Hence why we’ve been horrified at the way they have both lost their way and no longer look or sound like themselves. It’s disconcerting in two people edging 50.
I’m guessing most of us had an affection for Jen but feel betrayed by her dramatic character change. The way you feel when your favorite show doesn’t renew the contract for their expensive high quality writers and the replacements destroy your favorite characters. The moral contract with her original audience has been violated. In fact her posts regularly mock and dismiss her original audience like she’s embarrassed of her roots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does Brandon do for a living now? Is he still a pastor?

Don’t think he’s pastoring. He’s some how a “Sr VP” of a land company in the Hill Country selling mini-ranches. It is really an insult to real VP level executives who work years and are generally really smart to earn that kind of title. Brandon, on the other hand, knows someone who hooked him up. He has no real managerial or VP level experience in business or sales operations. But whatever. Call yourself VP, he’s really a sales guy. And, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with being a sales person. Sales make the world go round in my opinion and is a very tough profession. I think he’s a f-in joke. All he does is post romantic photos of the rustic-ish front porch of their sales office, with captions like, “this is my office, everyday. Come find your piece of paradise.” He tries to make cool photos but somehow always strategically positions his $80K Jacked Up Ford diesel truck in the background… as if he’s ever pulled anything that remotely requires a 3/4 ton diesel.

Prior to this gig, it looked like he was trying his hand at high end remodels of bathrooms and kitchens. Guess that didn’t work out. Sure talked a good came tho.

Wow. Who just tried to pivot the hate from Jen to Brandon??? I’ve got a good guess…. 🤔🤣 GO AWAY JEN this thread is hate towards you, not Brandon.

I don’t see it as hate, but rather the whole thing as a shell game- as a former ANC’er for about 4 years, my family went there because it started as a really welcoming and non-judgmental church to learn the Word and do great things in the community. And it was that for quite a while. Maybe it still is for some. We volunteered over and over, served in the community, which was great. In retrospect, however, never felt we were really part of the “family.” Maybe we own some of that for not diving in more ourselves. But anyway, the broader angst is that, in the end, it was just like any other place— it was run by folks, who I feel had another agenda more for themselves than for the good of the church. That that’s my fault for thinking it was more altruistic. So yeah, there is bitterness for both of these fools, who, in the end, are just as broken as the rest of us. We fell for the con. They seem to be both fake and overly ambitious to
really lead from the heart and with authenticity. Haven’t been to a church since— and have no desire to go back.

[Anonymous]

Truly this is more just about accountability. She is STILL in the business of making money off her followers. It's like with the Hollises - people aren't mad they got divorced, it's that they "sold" the idea of these exceptional and amazing marriages - both couples - Hatmakers & Hollises - and made money off of their fans/followers selling that image, when there were apparently LOTS of issues going back at least 5 years prior to their divorces that they glossed over and hid. I mean, look at all the money they all made in that timeframe from selling this image. Now they are pivoting to other ways to make more money, often in areas where they aren't really qualified. They make money off of other people's backs via these parasocial relationships. The more we bring that to light, the better, so that other people can go in with eyes wide open when considering forking over money for their courses or conferences, etc.

Also, with both Jen and the whole Hollis/Heidi Powell crew, we are seeing narc behaviors and tendencies and, in some instances, very manic and unhealthy behavior, disordered eating, questionable posting of content including their kids (to put it mildly), and the continued grift of trying to sell their lifestyles.

I don't think we would ever "get through" to Jen, Brandon, Rachel, Dave, Heidi, etc. However, we can get through to people who follow them and give them their hard-earned money.