CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. I am one of those people who is really getting annoyed with the Coronavirus media hype. Parents in my neighborhood actually think their healthy kids are at risk of dying with the Coronavirus! There is a much greater change that your child will get sick or die with Influenza than Coronavirus COVID-19.

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/03/06/flu-kills-k-americans-children-hardest-hit/
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S3

Please don't just rely on misguided edited statistics being published by the media. You also need to review other sources including cdc.gov and who.int. You should also review the history of other flu and zoonotic outbreaks for comparison, then maybe you can put your mind at ease that your kiddos are not at high risk!

In my opinion, the 2009 H1N1 swine flu was much more serious than COVID-19, and the US never made significant attempts to contain the outbreak before it spread globally.
2009 H1N1:
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html

"WHO estimates that seasonal influenza may result in 290,000-650,000 deaths each year due to respiratory diseases alone.”
https://www.who.int/influenza/surveillance_monitoring/bod/en/

Influenza (US stats): https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

Coronavirus COVID-19: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Also, keep in mind that the mortality statistics calculated against reported illnesses could be skewed since many sick people ride it out and don’t go to the doctor or they are simply harboring the virus with no symptoms. I would prefer my kids build antibodies to this COVID-19 strain so their immune system will be prepared for potential future subtypes. That is why older people were not impacted by the 2009 H1N1 outbreak!

Stop focusing on the mortality stats, and think about where will we put the 15-20% of infected people who need hospital care - many of them needing intense ICU care?

And, don't worry, it's highly likely that your kids will be infected with this. We just don't want everyone infected at once.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. I am one of those people who is really getting annoyed with the Coronavirus media hype. Parents in my neighborhood actually think their healthy kids are at risk of dying with the Coronavirus! There is a much greater change that your child will get sick or die with Influenza than Coronavirus COVID-19.

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/03/06/flu-kills-k-americans-children-hardest-hit/
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S3

Please don't just rely on misguided edited statistics being published by the media. You also need to review other sources including cdc.gov and who.int. You should also review the history of other flu and zoonotic outbreaks for comparison, then maybe you can put your mind at ease that your kiddos are not at high risk!

In my opinion, the 2009 H1N1 swine flu was much more serious than COVID-19, and the US never made significant attempts to contain the outbreak before it spread globally.
2009 H1N1:
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html

"WHO estimates that seasonal influenza may result in 290,000-650,000 deaths each year due to respiratory diseases alone.”
https://www.who.int/influenza/surveillance_monitoring/bod/en/

Influenza (US stats): https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

Coronavirus COVID-19: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Also, keep in mind that the mortality statistics calculated against reported illnesses could be skewed since many sick people ride it out and don’t go to the doctor or they are simply harboring the virus with no symptoms. I would prefer my kids build antibodies to this COVID-19 strain so their immune system will be prepared for potential future subtypes. That is why older people were not impacted by the 2009 H1N1 outbreak!

Stop focusing on the mortality stats, and think about where will we put the 15-20% of infected people who need hospital care - many of them needing intense ICU care?

And, don't worry, it's highly likely that your kids will be infected with this. We just don't want everyone infected at once.

Hospitals are postponing elective procedures in preparation. We also have a lot of independent surgical centers in this country that can help in a crisis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. I am one of those people who is really getting annoyed with the Coronavirus media hype. Parents in my neighborhood actually think their healthy kids are at risk of dying with the Coronavirus! There is a much greater change that your child will get sick or die with Influenza than Coronavirus COVID-19.

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/03/06/flu-kills-k-americans-children-hardest-hit/
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S3

Please don't just rely on misguided edited statistics being published by the media. You also need to review other sources including cdc.gov and who.int. You should also review the history of other flu and zoonotic outbreaks for comparison, then maybe you can put your mind at ease that your kiddos are not at high risk!

In my opinion, the 2009 H1N1 swine flu was much more serious than COVID-19, and the US never made significant attempts to contain the outbreak before it spread globally.
2009 H1N1:
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html

"WHO estimates that seasonal influenza may result in 290,000-650,000 deaths each year due to respiratory diseases alone.”
https://www.who.int/influenza/surveillance_monitoring/bod/en/

Influenza (US stats): https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

Coronavirus COVID-19: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Also, keep in mind that the mortality statistics calculated against reported illnesses could be skewed since many sick people ride it out and don’t go to the doctor or they are simply harboring the virus with no symptoms. I would prefer my kids build antibodies to this COVID-19 strain so their immune system will be prepared for potential future subtypes. That is why older people were not impacted by the 2009 H1N1 outbreak!

Stop focusing on the mortality stats, and think about where will we put the 15-20% of infected people who need hospital care - many of them needing intense ICU care?

And, don't worry, it's highly likely that your kids will be infected with this. We just don't want everyone infected at once.

Hospitals are postponing elective procedures in preparation. We also have a lot of independent surgical centers in this country that can help in a crisis.

We don’t have enough ventilators and negative pressure rooms. Not even close.

[Anonymous]

Some Italian hospitals now have to ration hospital care. The Italian College of Anesthesia, Analgesia, Resuscitation and Intensive Care has published a document to help doctors make decisions about who should get treatment - like a wartime triage.

https://twitter.com/Yascha_Mounk/status/1237731864233807872?s=20

[Anonymous]

I'm feeling so hopeless about this. Like no one cares about anyone over age 50. I mean, even for 40 year olds, this is 4x more deadly than flu. Any of us over age 19 could die. We need to buy time for the healthcare system. We need to buy time to develop treatments. We need to buy time to protect our elderly communities.

My 85-year old father moved mid-February to a retirement community. He had been safely isolated and now is at much greater risk. I was looking forward to him settling in and making friends and now I just want to tell him to stay in his apartment. He won't, by the way, and is making friends and having a grand time. Happier than he's been in years, in fact. Why can't we agree that we have to take action and implement social distancing NOW before it gets to these communities? I'm so confused. Do we think it won't get there? Do we just not care that 15% of them will die??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm feeling so hopeless about this. Like no one cares about anyone over age 50. I mean, even for 40 year olds, this is 4x more deadly than flu. Any of us over age 19 could die. We need to buy time for the healthcare system. We need to buy time to develop treatments. We need to buy time to protect our elderly communities.

My 85-year old father moved mid-February to a retirement community. He had been safely isolated and now is at much greater risk. I was looking forward to him settling in and making friends and now I just want to tell him to stay in his apartment. He won't, by the way, and is making friends and having a grand time. Happier than he's been in years, in fact. Why can't we agree that we have to take action and implement social distancing NOW before it gets to these communities? I'm so confused. Do we think it won't get there? Do we just not care that 15% of them will die??

I personally think that people are in denial so that they don't have to feel scared.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm feeling so hopeless about this. Like no one cares about anyone over age 50. I mean, even for 40 year olds, this is 4x more deadly than flu. Any of us over age 19 could die. We need to buy time for the healthcare system. We need to buy time to develop treatments. We need to buy time to protect our elderly communities.

My 85-year old father moved mid-February to a retirement community. He had been safely isolated and now is at much greater risk. I was looking forward to him settling in and making friends and now I just want to tell him to stay in his apartment. He won't, by the way, and is making friends and having a grand time. Happier than he's been in years, in fact. Why can't we agree that we have to take action and implement social distancing NOW before it gets to these communities? I'm so confused. Do we think it won't get there? Do we just not care that 15% of them will die??

Hes 85. Let him do what he wants, basically. !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, if you guys aren’t also reading the travel thread you should - everyone over there still wants to take their spring break trip!

So many idiots. The cavalier “it can’t touch me” is born out of entitlement and self-importance with zero regard for the well-being of others.

Nope. It’s called listening to our government and the “experts” that everyone says we should defer to. CDC website only advises limiting travel to impacted areas. Quote: “CDC does not recommend canceling or postponing travel to destinations with level 1 travel notices because the risk of COVID-19 is thought to be low.” https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/faqs.html.

[Anonymous]

WHO has officially declared this a pandemic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WHO has officially declared this a pandemic.

But I was assured by the posters on DCUM that it's basically like the seasonal flu and they take showers, so they'll be fine!

[Anonymous]

India just basically closed their borders to all foreigners. All visas have been suspended.

[Anonymous]

https://www.nbcsports.com/northwest/more/report-washington-gov-inslee-ban-gatherings-more-250-people-sporting-events-impacted

This could affect sports and concerts as more cities may decide to do the same thing soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm feeling so hopeless about this. Like no one cares about anyone over age 50. I mean, even for 40 year olds, this is 4x more deadly than flu. Any of us over age 19 could die. We need to buy time for the healthcare system. We need to buy time to develop treatments. We need to buy time to protect our elderly communities.

My 85-year old father moved mid-February to a retirement community. He had been safely isolated and now is at much greater risk. I was looking forward to him settling in and making friends and now I just want to tell him to stay in his apartment. He won't, by the way, and is making friends and having a grand time. Happier than he's been in years, in fact. Why can't we agree that we have to take action and implement social distancing NOW before it gets to these communities? I'm so confused. Do we think it won't get there? Do we just not care that 15% of them will die??

I have a friend who is a member of the Lakota tribe. In her culture, old people are valued more, because they offer so much experience and wisdom. It’s heartbreaking to hear how often I have heard people say that people 70-year-olds dying is no tragedy. I am immensely grateful it doesn’t seem to kill children but still. The elderly are not expendable. I mean, maybe they are, if that’s how we are treating them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm feeling so hopeless about this. Like no one cares about anyone over age 50. I mean, even for 40 year olds, this is 4x more deadly than flu. Any of us over age 19 could die. We need to buy time for the healthcare system. We need to buy time to develop treatments. We need to buy time to protect our elderly communities.

My 85-year old father moved mid-February to a retirement community. He had been safely isolated and now is at much greater risk. I was looking forward to him settling in and making friends and now I just want to tell him to stay in his apartment. He won't, by the way, and is making friends and having a grand time. Happier than he's been in years, in fact. Why can't we agree that we have to take action and implement social distancing NOW before it gets to these communities? I'm so confused. Do we think it won't get there? Do we just not care that 15% of them will die??

They care more about their trips. I agree PP. The WHO and CDC can scream bloody murder and they won't listen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm feeling so hopeless about this. Like no one cares about anyone over age 50. I mean, even for 40 year olds, this is 4x more deadly than flu. Any of us over age 19 could die. We need to buy time for the healthcare system. We need to buy time to develop treatments. We need to buy time to protect our elderly communities.

My 85-year old father moved mid-February to a retirement community. He had been safely isolated and now is at much greater risk. I was looking forward to him settling in and making friends and now I just want to tell him to stay in his apartment. He won't, by the way, and is making friends and having a grand time. Happier than he's been in years, in fact. Why can't we agree that we have to take action and implement social distancing NOW before it gets to these communities? I'm so confused. Do we think it won't get there? Do we just not care that 15% of them will die??

I personally think that people are in denial so that they don't have to feel scared.

Yep