What are the top 10 universities in the USA?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These threads are silly but modestly entertaining because Penn grads invariably take them at face value and spend serious time trying to make the case it should be bumped up a notch.

No. Not a Penn grad. Not even close. Just notice the silly statements such as ' separate Wharton and Penn is this or that'. You can't separate them . Wharton is a part of Penn. And with that said the rest of Penn in great. I believe objectively top 10 somewhere 6-10. Which actually does seem like the consensus.

Not really the consensus. In this thread you see most people having a tier of Columbia/Caltech or Columbia/Caltech/Chicago with good reason. As you mentioned, Penn has a good med, nursing, and public health program, but that's like saying Penn is good at finance, management, and business administration; of course all three are gonna be good because they are interconnected fields.

Wharton is elite but it's not even the top business school, bested by both Harvard and Stanford. I agree that separating Wharton from Penn is foolish. It's like a Princeton SPIA grad (previously called woody woo) separating it from Princeton, except there would be no benefits as the prestige difference between saying Princeton and woody woo is marginal unlike Penn and Wharton.

Chicago excels in the social sciences and some STEM fields, Columbia is elite in humanities, social sciences, and pretty solid at STEM. Penn doesn't have this broad level of success like HYPS, Chicago, and Columbia across the arts and sciences. This is Penn's weakest area by far, which is why many are tempted to separate it from Wharton.

It's still a top 10 for sure though.

[Anonymous]

This kind of silliness exists only in DCUM, US News, etc.

I don’t know anyone who attends one of these schools that behave like they are in DCUM. Those who attend one of these all have friends who attend others on the list. Can’t imagine them bickering over which school ranks where. It’s entirely a DCUM (i.e., parents’) phenomenon.

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The full title of this thread:

"What are the top 10 universities in the USA from the perspective of people who are insecure and focused on "status"?

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Anonymous wrote:The full title of this thread:

"What are the top 10 universities in the USA from the perspective of people who are insecure and focused on "status"?

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Anonymous wrote:The full title of this thread:

"What are the top 10 universities in the USA from the perspective of people who are insecure and focused on "status"?

On the one hand: absolutely. This is like pinning numbers on ants and betting which ant gets to the sugar first.

On the other hand: in the real world, donut hole families might ask themselves, “What schools are so great that I’d consider taking out huge loans to send my kid there, even if my kid would get merit aid at UVA or UMD?”

For me, doing that would only make sense for kids who were so bright that their intelligence was a kind of handicap. For me, the “sell a kidney” college list for kids like that would include Cal Tech, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Harvey Mudd, Berkeley and the University of Chicago, and I’d want to look at Cornell, Pomona and Amherst to see what they had to offer.

The goal wouldn’t be to seek prestige. The goal would be for the kids to spend a few years in regular contact with intellectual peers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These threads are silly but modestly entertaining because Penn grads invariably take them at face value and spend serious time trying to make the case it should be bumped up a notch.

No. Not a Penn grad. Not even close. Just notice the silly statements such as ' separate Wharton and Penn is this or that'. You can't separate them . Wharton is a part of Penn. And with that said the rest of Penn in great. I believe objectively top 10 somewhere 6-10. Which actually does seem like the consensus.

Not really the consensus. In this thread you see most people having a tier of Columbia/Caltech or Columbia/Caltech/Chicago with good reason. As you mentioned, Penn has a good med, nursing, and public health program, but that's like saying Penn is good at finance, management, and business administration; of course all three are gonna be good because they are interconnected fields.

Wharton is elite but it's not even the top business school, bested by both Harvard and Stanford. I agree that separating Wharton from Penn is foolish. It's like a Princeton SPIA grad (previously called woody woo) separating it from Princeton, except there would be no benefits as the prestige difference between saying Princeton and woody woo is marginal unlike Penn and Wharton.

Chicago excels in the social sciences and some STEM fields, Columbia is elite in humanities, social sciences, and pretty solid at STEM. Penn doesn't have this broad level of success like HYPS, Chicago, and Columbia across the arts and sciences. This is Penn's weakest area by far, which is why many are tempted to separate it from Wharton.

It's still a top 10 for sure though.

Lol Chicago is about the same as Penn

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Anonymous wrote:The full title of this thread:

"What are the top 10 universities in the USA from the perspective of people who are insecure and focused on "status"?

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Chicago and non Wharton penn folks are most insecure

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The full title of this thread:

"What are the top 10 universities in the USA from the perspective of people who are insecure and focused on "status"?

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Chicago and non Wharton penn folks are most insecure

Wrong.
Wharton folks are more insecure and bring up the separate division things all the time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The full title of this thread:

"What are the top 10 universities in the USA from the perspective of people who are insecure and focused on "status"?

[phone]

Chicago and non Wharton penn folks are most insecure

Wrong.
Wharton folks are more insecure and bring up the separate division things all the time.

The only reason UVA alums aren’t being mentioned here as the most insecure is because UVA isn’t close to being a top 10 university.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The full title of this thread:

"What are the top 10 universities in the USA from the perspective of people who are insecure and focused on "status"?

[phone]

Chicago and non Wharton penn folks are most insecure

Wrong.
Wharton folks are more insecure and bring up the separate division things all the time.

Need to also mention the Yale and Princeton folks who dogmatically chant HYP to keep Columbia away, while Harvard folks know better than to lurk around these college forums.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The full title of this thread:

"What are the top 10 universities in the USA from the perspective of people who are insecure and focused on "status"?

[phone]

Chicago and non Wharton penn folks are most insecure

Wrong.
Wharton folks are more insecure and bring up the separate division things all the time.

Need to also mention the Yale and Princeton folks who dogmatically chant HYP to keep Columbia away, while Harvard folks know better than to lurk around these college forums.

Every school on this thread except Harvard and maybe Stanford are insecure in some way or another, though in varying degrees of course. MIT folks won’t care. What happens when ultra-ambitious people study alongside similar people for 4 years knowing that they’re not at the most prestigious school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The full title of this thread:

"What are the top 10 universities in the USA from the perspective of people who are insecure and focused on "status"?

[phone]

Chicago and non Wharton penn folks are most insecure

Wrong.
Wharton folks are more insecure and bring up the separate division things all the time.

Need to also mention the Yale and Princeton folks who dogmatically chant HYP to keep Columbia away, while Harvard folks know better than to lurk around these college forums.

Harvard and perhaps Stanford and MIT are about the only ones that can be secure in their status. Everyone else is jostling out of insecurity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The full title of this thread:

"What are the top 10 universities in the USA from the perspective of people who are insecure and focused on "status"?

[phone]

Chicago and non Wharton penn folks are most insecure

Wrong.
Wharton folks are more insecure and bring up the separate division things all the time.

Need to also mention the Yale and Princeton folks who dogmatically chant HYP to keep Columbia away, while Harvard folks know better than to lurk around these college forums.

Harvard and perhaps Stanford and MIT are about the only ones that can be secure in their status. Everyone else is jostling out of insecurity.

Doubt it. Harvard has to deal with the fact that its undergraduate education is no longer considered the best in the country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The full title of this thread:

"What are the top 10 universities in the USA from the perspective of people who are insecure and focused on "status"?

[phone]

Chicago and non Wharton penn folks are most insecure

Wrong.
Wharton folks are more insecure and bring up the separate division things all the time.

Need to also mention the Yale and Princeton folks who dogmatically chant HYP to keep Columbia away, while Harvard folks know better than to lurk around these college forums.

Harvard and perhaps Stanford and MIT are about the only ones that can be secure in their status. Everyone else is jostling out of insecurity.

Doubt it. Harvard has to deal with the fact that its undergraduate education is no longer considered the best in the country.

Agreed. Harvard undergraduate enrollees are no longer academically qualified. Just look at how many kids from power and tycoons not just from this country, but around the world especially China took up the spots.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The full title of this thread:

"What are the top 10 universities in the USA from the perspective of people who are insecure and focused on "status"?

[phone]

Chicago and non Wharton penn folks are most insecure

Wrong.
Wharton folks are more insecure and bring up the separate division things all the time.

Need to also mention the Yale and Princeton folks who dogmatically chant HYP to keep Columbia away, while Harvard folks know better than to lurk around these college forums.

Harvard and perhaps Stanford and MIT are about the only ones that can be secure in their status. Everyone else is jostling out of insecurity.

Doubt it. Harvard has to deal with the fact that its undergraduate education is no longer considered the best in the country.

Agreed. Harvard undergraduate enrollees are no longer academically qualified. Just look at how many kids from power and tycoons not just from this country, but around the world especially China took up the spots.

Harvard let one of the obamas in - not the one that went to Michigan. It needs big names to survive.