What are the top 10 universities in the USA?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Stanford
Yale
MIT
Princeton
Caltech
Columbia
Chicago
Penn
Northwestern
Duke
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
JHU

+3

ding ding ding

+1

I would put in tiers, but this is a reasonable ordering

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, 9 pages. You folks are nuts.

You make yourself sound like you had never known US News magazine sold way more copies for the annual college rankings issue (much more ads) than other issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, 9 pages. You folks are nuts.

You make yourself sound like you had never known US News magazine sold way more copies for the annual college rankings issue (much more ads) than other issues.

You make it sound like you think the random pulled from my butt silliness here has any comparability to the highly flawed but still systematic metrics used by USN.

[Anonymous]

1. Harvard / Stanford
2. Yale / MIT / Princeton
3. Columbia / Chicago / UPenn
4. Northwestern / Duke / Johns Hopkins
5. Cornell / Brown / Dartmouth

- source: DH is a prof at a top private R1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. Harvard / Stanford
2. Yale / MIT / Princeton
3. Columbia / Chicago / UPenn
4. Northwestern / Duke / Johns Hopkins
5. Cornell / Brown / Dartmouth

- source: DH is a prof at a top private R1

The best one and clearly better than US News.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, 9 pages. You folks are nuts.

You make yourself sound like you had never known US News magazine sold way more copies for the annual college rankings issue (much more ads) than other issues.

You make it sound like you think the random pulled from my butt silliness here has any comparability to the highly flawed but still systematic metrics used by USN.

It is possible. US News appears to change its metrics to get a different result that they know is flawed in order to make more sales. Like has been said before US News thrives on manipulating its rankings in my opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Harvard / Stanford
2. Yale / MIT / Princeton
3. Columbia / Chicago / UPenn
4. Northwestern / Duke / Johns Hopkins
5. Cornell / Brown / Dartmouth

- source: DH is a prof at a top private R1

The best one and clearly better than US News.

+1. May add Caltech to 3 and separate it from the Chicago and UPenn tier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Harvard / Stanford
2. Yale / MIT / Princeton
3. Columbia / Chicago / UPenn
4. Northwestern / Duke / Johns Hopkins
5. Cornell / Brown / Dartmouth

- source: DH is a prof at a top private R1

The best one and clearly better than US News.

+1. May add Caltech to 3 and separate it from the Chicago and UPenn tier.

JHU in tier 5

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Harvard / Stanford
2. Yale / MIT / Princeton
3. Columbia / Chicago / UPenn
4. Northwestern / Duke / Johns Hopkins
5. Cornell / Brown / Dartmouth

- source: DH is a prof at a top private R1

The best one and clearly better than US News.

+1. May add Caltech to 3 and separate it from the Chicago and UPenn tier.

JHU in tier 5

Fair. I’d agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, 9 pages. You folks are nuts.

You make yourself sound like you had never known US News magazine sold way more copies for the annual college rankings issue (much more ads) than other issues.

You make it sound like you think the random pulled from my butt silliness here has any comparability to the highly flawed but still systematic metrics used by USN.

It is possible. US News appears to change its metrics to get a different result that they know is flawed in order to make more sales. Like has been said before US News thrives on manipulating its rankings in my opinion.

So I get it. Your position is USN sucks so posters here can suck also?

That makes PERFECT sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Harvard / Stanford
2. Yale / MIT / Princeton
3. Columbia / Chicago / UPenn
4. Northwestern / Duke / Johns Hopkins
5. Cornell / Brown / Dartmouth

- source: DH is a prof at a top private R1

The best one and clearly better than US News.

+1. May add Caltech to 3 and separate it from the Chicago and UPenn tier.

JHU in tier 5

Fair. I’d agree.

1. Harvard / Stanford
2. Yale / MIT / Princeton
3. Columbia / Caltech
4. UPenn / Chicago
5. Duke / Northwestern
6. Cornell / Brown / Dartmouth / Johns Hopkins

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Harvard / Stanford
2. Yale / MIT / Princeton
3. Columbia / Chicago / UPenn
4. Northwestern / Duke / Johns Hopkins
5. Cornell / Brown / Dartmouth

- source: DH is a prof at a top private R1

The best one and clearly better than US News.

+1. May add Caltech to 3 and separate it from the Chicago and UPenn tier.

JHU in tier 5

Fair. I’d agree.

1. Harvard / Stanford
2. Yale / MIT / Princeton
3. Columbia / Caltech
4. UPenn / Chicago
5. Duke / Northwestern
6. Cornell / Brown / Dartmouth / Johns Hopkins

Nailed it!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:My list...

1. HYPSM
3. Caltech, Columbia
4. Wharton, Chicago
5. Brown, Dartmouth, Northwestern, Duke
6. Cornell, Penn (ex-Wharton), JHU

I have a hard time fathoming why Brown or Dartmouth, under most circumstances, would ever be above Cornell or "ex-Wharton Penn."

If one wants to break down and rank departments within these universities then have had it but do NOT stop at Wharton/Penn.

I think folks break out the two because there is a wider gap between Wharton vs. non-Wharton than any other comparisons between programs at any of the top 15 schools

Penn has excellent undergraduate programs in other fields. This is splitting hairs at its worst . Top undergraduate nursing program. Top undergraduate pre med programs.

[Anonymous]

These threads are silly but modestly entertaining because Penn grads invariably take them at face value and spend serious time trying to make the case it should be bumped up a notch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These threads are silly but modestly entertaining because Penn grads invariably take them at face value and spend serious time trying to make the case it should be bumped up a notch.

No. Not a Penn grad. Not even close. Just notice the silly statements such as ' separate Wharton and Penn is this or that'. You can't separate them . Wharton is a part of Penn. And with that said the rest of Penn in great. I believe objectively top 10 somewhere 6-10. Which actually does seem like the consensus.