FCPS paying for Critical Race Theory curriculum. To be implemented in a year

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/05/gops-critical-race-theory-fixation-explained/618828/
Please read.

Some interesting background (had already read) but totally glosses over how CRT is now being packaged to cram down the throats of students. It’s ultimately a reductive and harmful approach to a complex subject that ends up shaming white and Asian kids and “empowers” others to go around yelling “check your privilege” and “colonizer” at other kids whenever they have a difference of opinion.

Exactly. It is used to shut down discussion. I will be re educating my child at home.

I am the PP above. I am a latina and tend to vote republican, but very much a centrist and new to this county. I am appalled at all of this. I recall CRT from my Ivy League education. It is a complicated subject and a “theory” that should not be taught until college in the right context, by college-level professors who are there to expand and educate minds, not indoctrinate. Our public school system is not good enough to properly teach and discuss this subject. I hate that I have to re-educate my kid at home and monitor materials. I will be pushing back against this in her classroom and her schools. If my kid is punished, I will elevate and take the school to court if I have to.

This is my understanding of critical theory as well - it's complicated. The survey infuriated me because PP could have been saying she "strongly disagreed" with the amount of discussion of race in the classroom because she will teach her own kid since critical theory is complicated. And someone else might "strongly disagree" because they want a lot more discussions of race in the classroom. And someone else might "strongly disagree" because they still hold fast to the ideal of a color blind society. There was no way to distinguish. It was absurd.

I thought the National Review's coverage of CRT had a lot more background on critical theory in general than The Atlantic. Of course it had a slant on the coverage, but so did The Atlantic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reading most of the posts here reminds me of this quote:

"When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"

100%

I have several Black neighbors living in $3M homes sending their kids to expensive privates. I don’t see why their kids should get further reparations or be encouraged to call the white and Asian kids “colonizers” (as a slur) and oppressors.

When you’ve seen equal opportunity reward people of different races, CRT feels like Maoism.

[Anonymous]

yeah the survey was poorly done. I do think some changes need to be made to how race and history are taught but I don't think some FCPS teachers are equipped or want to do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reading most of the posts here reminds me of this quote:

"When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"

100%

I have several Black neighbors living in $3M homes sending their kids to expensive privates. I don’t see why their kids should get further reparations or be encouraged to call the white and Asian kids “colonizers” (as a slur) and oppressors.

When you’ve seen equal opportunity reward people of different races, CRT feels like Maoism.

You are the reason why this curriculum is needed.

Another "post racial America" person because the U.S. elected President Obama.

Try to think critically.

[Anonymous]

It seems like vengeance at this point. Whether that’s justified or not is open for debate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reading most of the posts here reminds me of this quote:

"When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"

100%

I have several Black neighbors living in $3M homes sending their kids to expensive privates. I don’t see why their kids should get further reparations or be encouraged to call the white and Asian kids “colonizers” (as a slur) and oppressors.

When you’ve seen equal opportunity reward people of different races, CRT feels like Maoism.

Dorothy Brown does some really cool research on how even black families that have acquired wealth are likely to fare worse via tax and income policy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reading most of the posts here reminds me of this quote:

"When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"

100%

I have several Black neighbors living in $3M homes sending their kids to expensive privates. I don’t see why their kids should get further reparations or be encouraged to call the white and Asian kids “colonizers” (as a slur) and oppressors.

When you’ve seen equal opportunity reward people of different races, CRT feels like Maoism.

You are the reason why this curriculum is needed.

Another "post racial America" person because the U.S. elected President Obama.

Try to think critically.

I have. You’ve offered no reason why the privileged children of highly successful (or fortunate) Black families should be the beneficiaries of race-based policies - to be taught starting at the elementary school level - ultimately intended to redistribute based on skin color. The whole “the only remedy for past discrimination is future discrimination” thing is utterly repulsive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reading most of the posts here reminds me of this quote:

"When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"

100%

I have several Black neighbors living in $3M homes sending their kids to expensive privates. I don’t see why their kids should get further reparations or be encouraged to call the white and Asian kids “colonizers” (as a slur) and oppressors.

When you’ve seen equal opportunity reward people of different races, CRT feels like Maoism.

You are the reason why this curriculum is needed.

Another "post racial America" person because the U.S. elected President Obama.

Try to think critically.

I have. You’ve offered no reason why the privileged children of highly successful (or fortunate) Black families should be the beneficiaries of race-based policies - to be taught starting at the elementary school level - ultimately intended to redistribute based on skin color. The whole “the only remedy for past discrimination is future discrimination” thing is utterly repulsive.

Even rich black people are discriminated against.
These policies will not only help wealthy black people. Should poor and middle class black people still suffer racism because a few have done well for themselves?
Your argument makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reading most of the posts here reminds me of this quote:

"When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"

100%

I have several Black neighbors living in $3M homes sending their kids to expensive privates. I don’t see why their kids should get further reparations or be encouraged to call the white and Asian kids “colonizers” (as a slur) and oppressors.

When you’ve seen equal opportunity reward people of different races, CRT feels like Maoism.

You are the reason why this curriculum is needed.

Another "post racial America" person because the U.S. elected President Obama.

Try to think critically.

I have. You’ve offered no reason why the privileged children of highly successful (or fortunate) Black families should be the beneficiaries of race-based policies - to be taught starting at the elementary school level - ultimately intended to redistribute based on skin color. The whole “the only remedy for past discrimination is future discrimination” thing is utterly repulsive.

Even rich black people are discriminated against.
These policies will not only help wealthy black people. Should poor and middle class black people still suffer racism because a few have done well for themselves?
Your argument makes no sense.

Please point me to evidence that CRT, as it is taught in K-12, will help anyone. I’m genuinely asking. So much of what I see as wholeness these days seems largely performative. I’d really like to see where it is doing measurable good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reading most of the posts here reminds me of this quote:

"When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"

100%

I have several Black neighbors living in $3M homes sending their kids to expensive privates. I don’t see why their kids should get further reparations or be encouraged to call the white and Asian kids “colonizers” (as a slur) and oppressors.

When you’ve seen equal opportunity reward people of different races, CRT feels like Maoism.

You are the reason why this curriculum is needed.

Another "post racial America" person because the U.S. elected President Obama.

Try to think critically.

I have. You’ve offered no reason why the privileged children of highly successful (or fortunate) Black families should be the beneficiaries of race-based policies - to be taught starting at the elementary school level - ultimately intended to redistribute based on skin color. The whole “the only remedy for past discrimination is future discrimination” thing is utterly repulsive.

Even rich black people are discriminated against.
These policies will not only help wealthy black people. Should poor and middle class black people still suffer racism because a few have done well for themselves?
Your argument makes no sense.

Your counter makes no sense and consists of nothing more than assertions of discrimination that somehow warrant upending both K-12 education and society at large in the name of “equity”. No thanks - this is communism and unlikely to gain support among the general public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/05/gops-critical-race-theory-fixation-explained/618828/
Please read.

Some interesting background (had already read) but totally glosses over how CRT is now being packaged to cram down the throats of students. It’s ultimately a reductive and harmful approach to a complex subject that ends up shaming white and Asian kids and “empowers” others to go around yelling “check your privilege” and “colonizer” at other kids whenever they have a difference of opinion.

Exactly. It is used to shut down discussion. I will be re educating my child at home.

I am the PP above. I am a latina and tend to vote republican, but very much a centrist and new to this county. I am appalled at all of this. I recall CRT from my Ivy League education. It is a complicated subject and a “theory” that should not be taught until college in the right context, by college-level professors who are there to expand and educate minds, not indoctrinate. Our public school system is not good enough to properly teach and discuss this subject. I hate that I have to re-educate my kid at home and monitor materials. I will be pushing back against this in her classroom and her schools. If my kid is punished, I will elevate and take the school to court if I have to.

I'm a left of center professor and I agree with this. I am in STEM but have become familiar with the concepts of CRT over the past few years through interactions with people in academia and efforts to increase diversity/equity/inclusion within the university. I don't think children have the framework to process this information and I don't think the teachers are equipped to implement lessons on it. I think there are age appropriate ways to teach kids about some of these things, but based on their survey I don't have much confidence in FCPS handling it too well. I don't know why they don't have anyone on their staff who knows how to properly construct a survey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/05/gops-critical-race-theory-fixation-explained/618828/
Please read.

Some interesting background (had already read) but totally glosses over how CRT is now being packaged to cram down the throats of students. It’s ultimately a reductive and harmful approach to a complex subject that ends up shaming white and Asian kids and “empowers” others to go around yelling “check your privilege” and “colonizer” at other kids whenever they have a difference of opinion.

Exactly. It is used to shut down discussion. I will be re educating my child at home.

I am the PP above. I am a latina and tend to vote republican, but very much a centrist and new to this county. I am appalled at all of this. I recall CRT from my Ivy League education. It is a complicated subject and a “theory” that should not be taught until college in the right context, by college-level professors who are there to expand and educate minds, not indoctrinate. Our public school system is not good enough to properly teach and discuss this subject. I hate that I have to re-educate my kid at home and monitor materials. I will be pushing back against this in her classroom and her schools. If my kid is punished, I will elevate and take the school to court if I have to.

I'm a left of center professor and I agree with this. I am in STEM but have become familiar with the concepts of CRT over the past few years through interactions with people in academia and efforts to increase diversity/equity/inclusion within the university. I don't think children have the framework to process this information and I don't think the teachers are equipped to implement lessons on it. I think there are age appropriate ways to teach kids about some of these things, but based on their survey I don't have much confidence in FCPS handling it too well. I don't know why they don't have anyone on their staff who knows how to properly construct a survey.

Didn't The Leadership Academy, whom FCPS is paying for the teacher training on anti-bias and anti-racism, create the survey? Their logo was all over it. School board members are claiming they never saw it before (which is probably not their job, of course, but someone at Gatehouse hopefully looked it over).

[Anonymous]

The leadership academy created the survey.

Take it as a preview of the new fcps curriculum and teacher training.

[Anonymous]

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No real dog in this fight but as a HS teacher, I can tell you that 90% of the kids I have in my study hall/SEL lessons class completely tune out those lessons, and we've spent quite some time on BLM and equity this year already. I believe that the couple of kids who actually humor me and answer a question once in a while do it because they like me and feel sorry about the fact that NO ONE WANTS TO DISCUSS ANYTHING when I prompt. Oh and half of my students are URM and none of them participate at all.

For a bit of historical context, this *so* reminds me of growing up in an Eastern Bloc country (wokies can look up what that is). We were sitting through the lectures and indoctrination and yawning, thinking about the afternoon. When called upon, we would regurgitate what the teacher wanted us to say. Some rebelled. Most were complicit. A many's spirits were broken. The mode and manner of current "diversity" and similar instruction is very reminiscent of what I saw as a young person. We could always tell if a teacher was just going through the motions or was a "believer" and perpetrator.

When the Wall fell, I swore to myself I would never stand for this again. I am absolutely horrified and scared for my children to see this flare up again 30 years later in the country that supposedly won the Cold War (wokies again can look up what that is).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
No real dog in this fight but as a HS teacher, I can tell you that 90% of the kids I have in my study hall/SEL lessons class completely tune out those lessons, and we've spent quite some time on BLM and equity this year already. I believe that the couple of kids who actually humor me and answer a question once in a while do it because they like me and feel sorry about the fact that NO ONE WANTS TO DISCUSS ANYTHING when I prompt. Oh and half of my students are URM and none of them participate at all.

For a bit of historical context, this *so* reminds me of growing up in an Eastern Bloc country (wokies can look up what that is). We were sitting through the lectures and indoctrination and yawning, thinking about the afternoon. When called upon, we would regurgitate what the teacher wanted us to say. Some rebelled. Most were complicit. A many's spirits were broken. The mode and manner of current "diversity" and similar instruction is very reminiscent of what I saw as a young person. We could always tell if a teacher was just going through the motions or was a "believer" and perpetrator.

When the Wall fell, I swore to myself I would never stand for this again. I am absolutely horrified and scared for my children to see this flare up again 30 years later in the country that supposedly won the Cold War (wokies again can look up what that is).

Well, the US has been adrift since the end of the Cold War. It's the end of history thing. We really no nothing other than zero sum game capitalism, consumerism, and self-absorption. I find merit in the argument that the Great Awokening is the new religion for those who would otherwise laugh at the notion that religion has any place in society and culture.