WTU meeting updates?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New WTU email from tonight:

Over the past two days, the WTU membership has had a spirited, democratic debate. As we make a determination on our path forward, the leadership of the WTU wants to ensure that all members of our bargaining unit are heard and are aware of the consequences of moving forward.

The following poll is not an official vote; it is a poll to find out people's opinions and willingness to engage in collective actions. If it is determined that we need to move forward with a Collective Action, there will be a protocol to follow, including a secret ballot authorization vote.

We have an obligation to hear what actions you believe we should take. And any action we must do in solidarity. But we also have the obligation to ensure everyone knows the law we operate under. Unlike in Chicago or LA whose state law allows strikes, If we take action to remain remote or otherwise vote to initiate a work stoppage and we cannot secure an appropriate settlement with DC Public Schools the action may result in penalties against you, up to and including termination of your employment, and to the Union, up to and including fines and decertification. Of course we would fight it, and of course we are stronger together, but the leadership has the moral obligation to tell you the law.

Is this real? If so, I can’t believe your members are leaking this to DCUM.

Yes it’s real. And yes people leak. And yes it’s terrible.

I wasn’t aware it was private or confidential.

I just assume all union business is confidential until the union speaks to management. But maybe I’m conservative.

I assume anything sent to thousands of people is not confidential unless specified or required of someone (security clearances for example).

Union business is the business of the union. Not dcum

well, when the union has lost the confidence and respect of its own members, this is what happens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve only ever been a member of a smaller union, but I would never divulge possible collective action until we decided on it. But I’m sure whoever cut and pasted this email knew it was icky to do so.

They issued a statement previously saying they would take collective action. It wasn’t a secret. If you think DCPS admin doesn’t already know everything the union plans, you’re naive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New WTU email from tonight:

Over the past two days, the WTU membership has had a spirited, democratic debate. As we make a determination on our path forward, the leadership of the WTU wants to ensure that all members of our bargaining unit are heard and are aware of the consequences of moving forward.

The following poll is not an official vote; it is a poll to find out people's opinions and willingness to engage in collective actions. If it is determined that we need to move forward with a Collective Action, there will be a protocol to follow, including a secret ballot authorization vote.

We have an obligation to hear what actions you believe we should take. And any action we must do in solidarity. But we also have the obligation to ensure everyone knows the law we operate under. Unlike in Chicago or LA whose state law allows strikes, If we take action to remain remote or otherwise vote to initiate a work stoppage and we cannot secure an appropriate settlement with DC Public Schools the action may result in penalties against you, up to and including termination of your employment, and to the Union, up to and including fines and decertification. Of course we would fight it, and of course we are stronger together, but the leadership has the moral obligation to tell you the law.

Is this real? If so, I can’t believe your members are leaking this to DCUM.

Yes it’s real. And yes people leak. And yes it’s terrible.

I wasn’t aware it was private or confidential.

I just assume all union business is confidential until the union speaks to management. But maybe I’m conservative.

I assume anything sent to thousands of people is not confidential unless specified or required of someone (security clearances for example).

Union business is the business of the union. Not dcum

well, when the union has lost the confidence and respect of its own members, this is what happens.

No people have been posting union emails on this board FOR YEARS. This, unfortunately, is not new

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Update: WTU lost big and union tears are delicious.

Go to work. Vacation is over.

As long as parents stop crying big tears about the size of inperson learning.

FYI: my vacation continues!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve only ever been a member of a smaller union, but I would never divulge possible collective action until we decided on it. But I’m sure whoever cut and pasted this email knew it was icky to do so.

I'm also pretty sure we all knew this was being debated, it was even on twitter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve only ever been a member of a smaller union, but I would never divulge possible collective action until we decided on it. But I’m sure whoever cut and pasted this email knew it was icky to do so.

They issued a statement previously saying they would take collective action. It wasn’t a secret. If you think DCPS admin doesn’t already know everything the union plans, you’re naive.

I have yet to see a public statement. I might be naive but y’all have a solidarity problem if your members are cut and pasting emails to DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New WTU email from tonight:

Over the past two days, the WTU membership has had a spirited, democratic debate. As we make a determination on our path forward, the leadership of the WTU wants to ensure that all members of our bargaining unit are heard and are aware of the consequences of moving forward.

The following poll is not an official vote; it is a poll to find out people's opinions and willingness to engage in collective actions. If it is determined that we need to move forward with a Collective Action, there will be a protocol to follow, including a secret ballot authorization vote.

We have an obligation to hear what actions you believe we should take. And any action we must do in solidarity. But we also have the obligation to ensure everyone knows the law we operate under. Unlike in Chicago or LA whose state law allows strikes, If we take action to remain remote or otherwise vote to initiate a work stoppage and we cannot secure an appropriate settlement with DC Public Schools the action may result in penalties against you, up to and including termination of your employment, and to the Union, up to and including fines and decertification. Of course we would fight it, and of course we are stronger together, but the leadership has the moral obligation to tell you the law.

Is this real? If so, I can’t believe your members are leaking this to DCUM.

Yes it’s real. And yes people leak. And yes it’s terrible.

I wasn’t aware it was private or confidential.

I just assume all union business is confidential until the union speaks to management. But maybe I’m conservative.

I assume anything sent to thousands of people is not confidential unless specified or required of someone (security clearances for example).

Union business is the business of the union. Not dcum

Apparently not.

[Anonymous]

I just always love how the union's leadership is so poor that they believe that if they say the magical words in public, that a strike is no longer a strike.

"It's a collective action where we don't work as a form of protest against management! See, we didn't say the word strike anywhere!" This is a child's logic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just always love how the union's leadership is so poor that they believe that if they say the magical words in public, that a strike is no longer a strike.

"It's a collective action where we don't work as a form of protest against management! See, we didn't say the word strike anywhere!" This is a child's logic.

Here's a cookie. Who TF cares. Union isn't getting sued. Teachers lost. If any die or their family YOU helped kill them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just always love how the union's leadership is so poor that they believe that if they say the magical words in public, that a strike is no longer a strike.

"It's a collective action where we don't work as a form of protest against management! See, we didn't say the word strike anywhere!" This is a child's logic.

Here's a cookie. Who TF cares. Union isn't getting sued. Teachers lost. If any die or their family YOU helped kill them.

Right, even if teachers die of something other than Covid. Hint: being alive carries risks for every living, breathing human. You manage risk as best you can as individuals and a society because you can't eliminate it. High time for the balance to shift between letting kids, particularly poor children, suffer the brunt of societal pandemic sacrifices, nearly 9 months in. I say this from a position of strength - my kids are doing OK with DL, but only because mom has graduate degrees, is healthy and can work part-time and we can afford to pay for a pod.

[Anonymous]

Ah yes, the old adage: any time a teacher dies, there's a parent responsible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just always love how the union's leadership is so poor that they believe that if they say the magical words in public, that a strike is no longer a strike.

"It's a collective action where we don't work as a form of protest against management! See, we didn't say the word strike anywhere!" This is a child's logic.

Here's a cookie. Who TF cares. Union isn't getting sued. Teachers lost. If any die or their family YOU helped kill them.

Right, even if teachers die of something other than Covid. Hint: being alive carries risks for every living, breathing human. You manage risk as best you can as individuals and a society because you can't eliminate it. High time for the balance to shift between letting kids, particularly poor children, suffer the brunt of societal pandemic sacrifices, nearly 9 months in. I say this from a position of strength - my kids are doing OK with DL, but only because mom has graduate degrees, is healthy and can work part-time and we can afford to pay for a pod.

+1

Can you please stop pretending that all teachers are sitting in their houses hunkering down? Many travelled at some point since the pandemic started, send their kids to daycare, go to family gatherings, stores, etc. I would argue a small percent and just staying home and they probably qualify for ADA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just always love how the union's leadership is so poor that they believe that if they say the magical words in public, that a strike is no longer a strike.

"It's a collective action where we don't work as a form of protest against management! See, we didn't say the word strike anywhere!" This is a child's logic.

Here's a cookie. Who TF cares. Union isn't getting sued. Teachers lost. If any die or their family YOU helped kill them.

Right, even if teachers die of something other than Covid. Hint: being alive carries risks for every living, breathing human. You manage risk as best you can as individuals and a society because you can't eliminate it. High time for the balance to shift between letting kids, particularly poor children, suffer the brunt of societal pandemic sacrifices, nearly 9 months in. I say this from a position of strength - my kids are doing OK with DL, but only because mom has graduate degrees, is healthy and can work part-time and we can afford to pay for a pod.

+1

Can you please stop pretending that all teachers are sitting in their houses hunkering down? Many travelled at some point since the pandemic started, send their kids to daycare, go to family gatherings, stores, etc. I would argue a small percent and just staying home and they probably qualify for ADA.

40% of teacher qualified for leave. Guess that's nothing, huh.