Anyone care to elaborate on the bolded above? I suspect the answer isn't very PC. |
Not PP, but here is one example. If a white man came into my (mostly) white neighborhood and shot a couple of people including a child during a neighborhood bbq, I can tell you that EVERYONE would assist in help, capture and punishment of said criminal. When that same scenario happens in reverse; black man, black neighborhood, black victims the “culture “ is to defend the murderer and stay silent. |
uh.. no.. I think it depends on who the shooter is. If the black man is part of a gang, yes, there will be hesitation to report it out of fear. But if not, then I don't think most black people would want that person on the streets walking around. |
I can't think of a way to answer this question that won't get me banned, nor can I find any writings to link to, because discussing this is completely taboo. So here is a Washington Post article about Obama's outreach to young Black men while he was president. It illustrates some of the culture alluded to in posts above. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/chicago-teens-stories-on-becoming-a-man-leave-a-mark-on-the-president/2014/02/09/8808c336-82b8-11e3-9dd4-e7278db80d86_story.html All of the quotes below are from the Post, so please don't shoot the messenger. Scates was hanging on by a thread. Bouncing from his mother’s home to his father’s home to his grandmother’s home, he had faced constant suspensions for being late and dropped out of school for months. He blamed his bad behavior on getting “abandoned by my family,” not being “loved as a child should be loved.” And when that anger rose to the top, “like a balloon, it just explodes.” That led to gang life, he said. “I was surrounded by know-nothing people. People who didn’t want to do anything with their lives. You see the violence. You see the — excuse the language — hookers. You see the crackheads. You see the crack babies.” That day last February with Obama, Scates sat directly to the president’s left and told him how he grew sick of street life and returned to school, striving to graduate on time. “What motivated you?” the president asked. “I just told him that staying focused, committed, the BAM program helped me out along the way, as well,” Scates recalled. “I wanted it for myself.” “I used to play football because I was angry. Knocking someone down and hitting them felt good,” Daniels had told Obama back at Hyde Park. The president had shot back: “What happens when you get older and you can’t hit people anymore?” One of the best-known men in the world also urged them to think beyond fame in sports or music. The president did the odds for the young men — calculating how many professional basketball athletes there are and the probability they’d make it that far. “You’ve got to have a Plan B,” he told them. Turner was primarily concerned with graduating. He has put off, for now, the idea of college and, contrary to the president’s advice, is hoping for a career in music. “He said, ‘Don’t let music be your only option,’ ” Turner said. “I don’t mean any disrespect, but I like music a lot, so you might as well make it. “Then again, like he was saying, I should have a fallback plan,” Turner said. He’s still thinking about what it would be. Scates, too, continues to plan a career in music. “I want to be able to run my own record label one day,” he said. But right now, living with his grandmother, he’s struggling to balance a job as a clerk at the local liquor store while testing out a community college. “College isn’t for everybody,” he said. “I just want to see if it fits who I am.” He still thinks about the meetings with the president, but less each day. “Those are good moments, but what is it? It’s a memory, that’s all it is,” Scates said. “I remember when I went to see the president. But now what do I do? I’m still living the life I’m living.” I remember this article because it was incredible to me that direct, personal intervention by THE SITTING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES couldn't convince these kids to focus on school and pursue a more realistic career path (even as a fallback) instead of counting on becoming rap stars. |
It’s easy if you grew up in a segregated neighborhood or club. You realize that some clubs and neighborhoods in this area did not allow certain non-white non-Christian people? If you grew up thinking that is okay you may still think it is okay. |
Union troops were not stationed in Virginia, they were an occupying force in a Confederate state. Virginia is a southern state although not the Deep South. It’s like Kentucky, the Carolinas, and Georgia |
Here’s the difference: money. Socioeconomics. Class. The lawyer pp who took critical race theory classes, etc. isn’t a racist. She has no bias against the black lawyers at work, the black family in her nice neighborhood, or the black kids at school. She does, however, take issue with the low class subcultural black norm of single parents, drugs, violence, crime, etc. Again, the distinguishing factor is socioeconomics, not race. |
You’re framing the problem as though 100% of the cause of black criminality and violence stems from historical and current structural inequalities in the system and frankly that’s dishonest and strips every black person of their agency. I don’t think anybody who is paying attention doubts that these structural barriers exist, but there is zero interest in discussing much less addressing the immense cultural problems that also contribute to the insanely high black on black crime rate. The PP highlighted the need for police reforms so she’s an ally on that front. Your focus on parsing statistics at the margin while ignoring the enduring vastness of the problem is the sort of indifference that causes fatigue amongst allies on the broader racial inequity issue. |
Well said. Thank you for taking the time to explain this nuance. |
| What about the prevalence of racism against white people in the DMV? |
Where is this happening? The KKK had a base in Thurmont, MD. D.C. was a Black city hence “Chocolate City” being the nickname for decades. |
Racism, prejudice and bias are three different things. |
Only as of the last 5-10 years when the term “racism” was redefined to only apply to white people. I grew up here in DC and it’s common to experience anti-white hatred. |
| By living in a sheltered suburb. |
If we allow Black people the "agency" to have a criminal element just as every other race or group has a criminal element, then this is not a "cultural" thing. Humans have criminal elements and Black people are not immune to that. If you add a depressed condition generated by structural inequities on top of that element, you end up with a higher crime rate. The problem with calling this a "cultural" situation is that you're implying that Black people are inherently more violent, despite their circumstances and that is not true. If the crime was a part of the culture, why doesn't the same phenomenon of Black on Black crime occur in wealthy Black neighborhoods? It doesn't and I know because I've lived in several. |